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There is internet phone function in WM6, so I like to upgrade my mda in order to use Gizmo project. If I upgrade it, will the system be very slow for the MDA with only 200 mhz CPU?
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Well, trying is ever the development thingy issues... too much roms for try right here
with the lasts releases i cant see the difference between wm6.1 and wm5
Most of the programs that runs on wm5 runs too in wm 6 and wm6.1
but please... read everything before do everything... ask wathever you want. to avoid brick youir device
I know, there is a lot to read, thank you!
SO which is the most stable rom for 6.1 with internet phone?
I have WM 6.1 Pro and tomtom navigator 6. I want to ask that is there any way i can make my built-in gps search faster for the satteline beside using quickgps? thank you
What exact ROM are you using? Early WM6.1 ROMs (those ported form other devices, before the official one came) had very long times to first fix (several minutes).
The current ones have normal times of about 30 seconds.
It's WM 6.1 Pro
CE OS 5.2 19214
I dont know if it is a current one or the one was ported.How do i know? i bought it as used
shadowluan said:
It's WM 6.1 Pro
CE OS 5.2 19214
I dont know if it is a current one or the one was ported.How do i know? i bought it as used
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Is 'it' a HTC TyTN II, AT&T Tilt, Vodafone v1615, O2 XDA Stellar etc? If you bought it used, the previous owner may have changed the ROM or Radio/SPL through a process known as flashing. Does it all appear the same as whats shown in your manual for the device (or if you don't have the hardcopy, what is shown on the downloadable manual from the device provider)?
Check out the XDA-wiki pages if you're new to your device, it'll answer lots of questions you may otherwise be tempted to ask here needlessly. Newer WM 6.1 versions of HTC TyTN II ROMs (including the very latest UK released World Wide English - WWE one) have terrible GPS times to get a satellite lock when compared to the original WM 6.0 ROMs so if GPS functioning is important, for the mean-time until the ROM is fixed, you may want to have it reverted to an older ROM that works faster.
I never used to have problems then I sent my phone back for repair and they updated me to WM 6.1 which was the start of my GPS problems.
Anyway I've just set the external GPS to 9600 as suggest by CHfish and hey presto back to a fast fix. Don't set anything else on the external GPS as this can really bugger up your internal GPS.
sorry if someone already discuss this before, searched and not found. Mod please feel free to close it if it is irrelevant.
Question is on average every ROM 6.5 (dutty, miri, energy) with manilla and no other progs installed heats up the device more on average than the 6.1 based roms (dutty, topix, etc)
This is happening with same radio version - also noted that with 6.5 the battery is lower than with 6.1 based roms.
anyone has this expericence also ?
Txs
nunomax said:
sorry if someone already discuss this before, searched and not found. Mod please feel free to close it if it is irrelevant.
Question is on average every ROM 6.5 (dutty, miri, energy) with manilla and no other progs installed heats up the device more on average than the 6.1 based roms (dutty, topix, etc)
This is happening with same radio version - also noted that with 6.5 the battery is lower than with 6.1 based roms.
anyone has this expericence also ?
Txs
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I noticed the same too... The battery issue I was already aware of (especially with the Energy ROM).
nunomax said:
sorry if someone already discuss this before, searched and not found. Mod please feel free to close it if it is irrelevant.
Question is on average every ROM 6.5 (dutty, miri, energy) with manilla and no other progs installed heats up the device more on average than the 6.1 based roms (dutty, topix, etc)
This is happening with same radio version - also noted that with 6.5 the battery is lower than with 6.1 based roms.
anyone has this expericence also ?
Txs
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Try Onkolog Rom's they r better in terms of battery and performance - Personal experience.
nunomax said:
sorry if someone already discuss this before, searched and not found. Mod please feel free to close it if it is irrelevant.
Question is on average every ROM 6.5 (dutty, miri, energy) with manilla and no other progs installed heats up the device more on average than the 6.1 based roms (dutty, topix, etc)
This is happening with same radio version - also noted that with 6.5 the battery is lower than with 6.1 based roms.
anyone has this expericence also ?
Txs
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JaisonGJI1815 said:
I noticed the same too... The battery issue I was already aware of (especially with the Energy ROM).
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imtiyazee said:
Try Onkolog Rom's they r better in terms of battery and performance - Personal experience.
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Guys ,i have tryed many things for the battery and the best result for me is working with the new radio from Xperia 1.16!
battery not heating anymore ...
definitely. you r right, winmo 6.5 heating device after using 1-2 mins. and leo roms heating even more. btw, topix's rom smoother than onkolog's, even onkologs roms more lightweight than topix. best battery saving is onkolog. - personal experience.
djcedric said:
Guys ,i have tryed many things for the battery and the best result for me is working with the new radio from Xperia 1.16!
battery not heating anymore ...
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If its real then its a great news for many of us, will try right way.
No problems with dutty rom wm6.5 R12
barisahmet said:
definitely. you r right, winmo 6.5 heating device after using 1-2 mins. and leo roms heating even more. btw, topix's rom smoother than onkolog's, even onkologs roms more lightweight than topix. best battery saving is onkolog. - personal experience.
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masrterk said:
No problems with dutty rom wm6.5 R12
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that you are using onkolog,dutty,energy or any other rom,i think with radio 1.14 your device is always heating a lot,if he is asking from battery heating,change your rom is NOT the solution!
Try another radio and the difference is there.
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that you are using onkolog,dutty,energy or any other rom,i think with radio 1.14 your device is always heating a lot,if he is asking from battery heating,change your rom is NOT the solution!
Try another radio and the difference is there.
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nope. changing only the rom is fixing that. its not about radio (i didnt try .16 btw), but rom either affect this much.
barisahmet said:
nope. changing only the rom is fixing that. its not about radio (i didnt try .16 btw), but rom either affect this much.
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if you change your rom and there is a rillphone inside the rom that works fine with your installed radio then your battery is not heating so much anymore thats right!
changing a rom without rillphone inside will change nothing on heating battery.
when i was working with radio 1.14 my device was heating a lot,then i installed the rillphone and battery was not heating so much anymore...now with changing the radio 1.16 my device is not heating anymore,go to the hex edited radios thread and read the comments...
having the same problem
i'm having the same problem
I guess.. the problem has strated when I started using 6.5 roms
if changing the radio could help, can anyone explain how to do it please
seas of tears said:
i'm having the same problem
I guess.. the problem has strated when I started using 6.5 roms
if changing the radio could help, can anyone explain how to do it please
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read this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466274
I've changed radio and roms with several combinations, this was just to get some feedback from community to understand if the problem was general.
With GPS or 3G enabled any rom/radio will heat the device (6.5 or 6.1), but on a daily usage, replicating mail, answering call, etc with a 6.1 rom (topix in this case) and 1.16 xperia radio I did notice that the device heats sometimes. but with all 6.5 roms I've tested (Miri, Energy) the device is allways hot - even on standby - getting hotter when I start using it.
as stated I was not really looking for a solution, but rather trying to understand if this was a common behavior and if it is, there should be some processes on 6.5 roms that are pushing more for the processor comparing with 6.1 roms
txs all for your feedback
PS: is there any ril cab for 1.16 radio ?
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I've changed radio and roms with several combinations, this was just to get some feedback from community to understand if the problem was general.
With GPS or 3G enabled any rom/radio will heat the device (6.5 or 6.1), but on a daily usage, replicating mail, answering call, etc with a 6.1 rom (topix in this case) and 1.16 xperia radio I did notice that the device heats sometimes. but with all 6.5 roms I've tested (Miri, Energy) the device is allways hot - even on standby - getting hotter when I start using it.
as stated I was not really looking for a solution, but rather trying to understand if this was a common behavior and if it is, there should be some processes on 6.5 roms that are pushing more for the processor comparing with 6.1 roms
txs all for your feedback
PS: is there any ril cab for 1.16 radio ?
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im using energyrom with radio 1.16 and my device is not heating!before when i was on 1.14 and i was using gps or looking at movies my device heating a lot!much more as with radio 1.16 now.the difference is the radio.
no there is no rillphone 1.16 but 1.14 works fine with 1.16 radio.
Guys, you have to understand that 6.5 is ported over blackstone with 6.1 drivers. 6.5 is not supported by htc on blackstone, thus no 6.5 compatible drivers ar being written, this of course will resullt in more battery consumption than 6.1.
And anyone considering changing radios to 1.16, PLEASE READ THE WARNINGS CAREFULLY. YOU NEED TO SECURITY UNLOCK YOUR PHONE. IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS YOU CAN BRICK YOUR PHONE
thanks
djcedric said:
im using energyrom with radio 1.16 and my device is not heating!before when i was on 1.14 and i was using gps or looking at movies my device heating a lot!much more as with radio 1.16 now.the difference is the radio.
no there is no rillphone 1.16 but 1.14 works fine with 1.16 radio.
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thanks... hope that will work
will try it as soon as possible
Im using Energy 6.5 latest room and i can say that my battery life is over 5 days sometimes i forget when exactly i recharge my battery for last and also my phone didn`t heat when i play alot with the phone...
I also noticed that having WiFi on even if the screen is off, is heating the battery.
Once WiFi is turned off, the phone battery does not heat so much.
If wifi is configured for performance, try configuring for battery. usually makes a big difference to me.
Flashing 6.1 roms don't seem to change this setting (stored somewhere in radio nvram?), but i've seen flashing 6.5 reset it to performance at least once.
Ok so maybe the only here experiencing this? i hope not.
thus far i've tried a bunch of roms like the
Christian_WWE_3607_Full,
EnergyROM_28008_KOVSKY_02.Dec.2009_Standard,
x1_firestorm_v5.0.28005LEO-MAX
i like them all however i favor ..the energyrom ...
the only issue is they all are slow... boot up is ridiculous.
so i restored my device to a 6.1 official rom and the device is suddenly very pleasant and fast.
with that said I'd really really really like to switch to 6.5... why are these roms slow?
is it a 3d driver issue? i installed the x2 display driver on my current 6.1 rom and .. well its already quick so i dont know if it made a difference. do i need to install the same driver on the 6.5 roms?
please advise.
6.5 Roms SLOW on X1i
I too am finding Roms based on Manilla 2.5 slow. Using Roms with Manilla 2.1 are much more sprightly but lack a few of the features in 2.5.
Think about an old computer with preinstalled window xp. What happen if you decide to upgrade to Vista? it will slow down the computer for sure and this is why sony doesn't have official winmo 6.5 upgrade for xperia. Anyway, Gtrab and Jerp are two fastest ROMS I experienced so far.
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Think about an old computer with preinstalled window xp. What happen if you decide to upgrade to Vista? it will slow down the computer for sure and this is why sony doesn't have official winmo 6.5 upgrade for xperia. Anyway, Gtrab and Jep are two fastest ROMS I experienced so far.
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uh. no. this doesnt apply.
the x1 is hardly a "slow computer".. your comparison doesntly apply.
i brought up the d3 driver because that maybe it considering its not an official rom from SE meaning maybe something is missing?
Umm, well, zizoty, why does X2 has nearly same specs, but is coming with 6.5? It's just about optimization I believe. 6.5 Roms without manila (Like SEX1 5.7) do work smoothly and fast actually.
You guys are right! I guess we all have to wait for the official release of x2 and dump it content into the X1.
if someone wants to try the x2 display driver with 6.5 rom the link is:
http://dc172.4shared.com/download/1...ideo_Driver.zip?tsid=20091204-145003-8ad64942
i plan on trying it myself but i have to flash to a 6.5 rom first. ...
if you do try the driver with winmo 6.5 please report if you notice any improvement and with what rom.
for the slowing problem, try changing the pagepool, you can find the link in this forum easily.
Anyway, usually, pagepool already changed to a larger number by the cooker
I have tried quite a few ROMs 6.5 and so on but I'm currently running a stock 6.1. Guess why.
I have tested OpenGL abilities of a few WM 6.5 ROMs, too bad I didn't actually write down the actual numbers, but I can say that the ROMs I tried all made the scores drop around 25%, and the X2 ATI drivers didn't help much. The stock ROM however, gets a little boost with the X2 drivers, which might not be worth, playing with the original ROM.
Well, I am using a custom 6.1 rom now, And I must say. 6.1 is the best windows mobile for me right now. But, at the radio list there are radio's sorted for wm 6.1 and 6.0, And I installed a 6.0 radio on my wm 6.1.. Now I have a gps fix in 6 seconds, wich I will never have with a 6.1 Radio. Isn't it possible to get a 6.0 Radio getting fully working on a 6.1 rom? Cause I don't have sound and camera won't work now. But I like the fast GPS fix.
-Armazia
If only....
Armazia said:
I installed a 6.0 radio on my wm 6.1.. Now I have a gps fix in 6 seconds, wich I will never have with a 6.1 Radio. Isn't it possible to get a 6.0 Radio getting fully working on a 6.1 rom? Cause I don't have sound and camera won't work now. But I like the fast GPS fix.
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Not without developing new audio and camera drivers to suit the old radio (assuming that was possible), then making a new ROM with them. I know what you're getting at because I use GPS alot as well. I've gone back to a WM 6.0 ROM with my preferred Radio and GPS is as good as ever. Although I've not checked out many custom 6.1 ROMs, I found the official HTC 6.1 ROM had many other bugs aside from breaking GPS, things like not coming out of power saving mode on the first press of the power button, ringtones switching off without being told to do so and occasional periods of non-responsiveness. While 6.0 is slower in many ways, GPS is not one of them and at least things work reliably. It does mean you cant take advantage of the graphics accelerations drivers that have been developed here on xda-dev though
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Not without developing new audio and camera drivers to suit the old radio (assuming that was possible), then making a new ROM with them. I know what you're getting at because I use GPS alot as well. I've gone back to a WM 6.0 ROM with my preferred Radio and GPS is as good as ever. Although I've not checked out many custom 6.1 ROMs, I found the official HTC 6.1 ROM had many other bugs aside from breaking GPS, things like not coming out of power saving mode on the first press of the power button, ringtones switching off without being told to do so and occasional periods of non-responsiveness. While 6.0 is slower in many ways, GPS is not one of them and at least things work reliably. It does mean you cant take advantage of the graphics accelerations drivers that have been developed here on xda-dev though
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indeed, thats why I want something so my gps gets an almost instant fix, but whatever Radio I try on wm 6.1 and 6.5, it doesn't work. Al through I do use 6.1 now, I think thats faster then 6.5, I also don't like the menu in 6.5. But still I hear people saying that they get a really fast fix in wm 6.5/6.1. Thats why I am asking.
Like a speeding snail...
Armazia said:
I hear people saying that they get a really fast fix in wm 6.5/6.1. Thats why I am asking.
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Fast GPS sattelite lock relative to what? Surely not a WM 6.0 setup or I want to see it with my own eyes before believing it
I've yet to hear any users of WM 6.1 or 6.5 claim (and substantiate) GPS locking is faster than with the equivalent, correctly set up 'original' WM 6.0 setup. The only times I managed to get what some may consider to be fast GPS lock times when testing WM 6.1 ROMs was if TomTom Navigator had previously been running just before I (re)started Navigator and definitely not if I was on the move at the time. I get the impression HTC somehow reduced the power of the GPS functioning in later radios and even the later WM 6.0 Radios (such as 1.27.15.32R2) offered poorer GPS performance for me than older WM 6.0 versions such as 1.27.12.11 and 1.27.12.32.
I'd love to get to the bottom of what HTC did with the radio's over that time and why. My hunch is that it was an effort to reduce battery consumption by effectively starving those parts that used the most power - a bit like putting a tap in the fuel line on a car and partly closing it, either that or they reduced the amount of CPU resources allocated to GPS some other way. I think I'd have more luck breaking into Fort Knox than extracting that info from HTC and more to the point when I complained about it to them, they wouldn't listen and fix it. Their soluition under warranty was to revert my TyTN II back to Windows 6.0 (with a slightly newer Radio - the one I use now in my sig). Unlike other companies such as Intel that provide info on what new BIOS revisions fix, HTC don't seem to provide this information in sufficient detail for Radio revisions.
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Fast GPS sattelite lock relative to what? Surely not a WM 6.0 setup or I want to see it with my own eyes before believing it
I've yet to hear any users of WM 6.1 or 6.5 claim (and substantiate) GPS locking is faster than with the equivalent, correctly set up 'original' WM 6.0 setup. The only times I managed to get what some may consider to be fast GPS lock times when testing WM 6.1 ROMs was if TomTom Navigator had previously been running just before I (re)started Navigator and definitely not if I was on the move at the time. I get the impression HTC somehow reduced the power of the GPS functioning in later radios and even the later WM 6.0 Radios (such as 1.27.15.32R2) offered poorer GPS performance for me than older WM 6.0 versions such as 1.27.12.11 and 1.27.12.32.
I'd love to get to the bottom of what HTC did with the radio's over that time and why. My hunch is that it was an effort to reduce battery consumption by effectively starving those parts that used the most power - a bit like putting a tap in the fuel line on a car and partly closing it, either that or they reduced the amount of CPU resources allocated to GPS some other way. I think I'd have more luck breaking into Fort Knox than extracting that info from HTC and more to the point when I complained about it to them, they wouldn't listen and fix it. Their soluition under warranty was to revert my TyTN II back to Windows 6.0 (with a slightly newer Radio - the one I use now in my sig). Unlike other companies such as Intel that provide info on what new BIOS revisions fix, HTC don't seem to provide this information in sufficient detail for Radio revisions.
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Thats what I always hear from people, The hardware is fine, but the software is under the quality, also warranty.