Hey Everyone,
It is with a heavy heart that I report that my G1 seems to be on its way out. I have come to everyone at XDA over the past 2 years for both the good and the bad, the easy questions and the hard ones. I come to you again, possibly for the last time in the HTC Dream section, for more advice.
Over the last week my G1 has been acting up daily. I'm currently running CM6 stable release, and I couldn't be happier with the ROM. My problems I think rest solely with the aging hardware. Problems include:
-jittery screen when there is nothing touching the screen
-touchscreen has lost nearly all sensitivity in the 4 corners of the screen
-reboots that randomly bring the phone back to a state from a few days ago (ie when I reboot the phone with deleted shortcuts, alarms and in wifi mode, when the reboot completes the shortcuts will be back, the alarms will be there again and wifi will be turned off etc) almost as if the phone decided to do a nandroid restore all by itself.
-home button not working in anything other than recovery
-"missing SIM card" notifications will randomly appear despite the SIM card being firmly in place and untouched. (usually requires a power-off and a removal/replace of the SIM card)
-the phone seems to be unable to read sdcards (trouble started when I got a "damaged sdcard" notification in the status bar. However, once I plugged in the sdcard to a separate usb adapter, the sdcard and the data was still intact. I reformatted anyways and restored the data. Now I no longer get an error message however, there is no longer an option to mount the sdcard when a usb cable is connected, nor can I get the sdcard to mount in recovery. Additionally, because of the sdcard issues, nothing can be accomplished that needs access to the sdcard i.e. flashing new ROMs, running scripts, taking pictures, apps2sd etc. It seems like the phone's ability to read ANY sdcard is gone.
I guess those are the major ones. Obviously some are way more important than others. I'm having a really hard time convincing myself to keep on trucking with the G1 and spending time every night hashing out things that keep going wrong and doing research.
So I put it to my friends at XDA....any solutions for these ailments or has my G1 simply had enough and is begging me to put the final nail in the coffin?
All the best,
DM
if your having that many problems. I would say its time to put it to rest. And move on to better things. That's a lot of **** to deal with for such an old phone. Don't get me wrong. I love the g1. And I feel for ya man. Another og of android down. RIP
sent from my superfroyo dream
As much as I like my G1, I can see it's days getting shorter. It isn't as bad as your phone, but they all hit obsolescence in their own way.
It sound like it's time to hung up the phone, one last time.
Personally, I'm planning on getting the G2 when it comes out. It can't replace the Original Android, but it will help ease the pain.
DO NOT GET THE G2! 800 MHZ PROCESSER ONLY! YOU WILL REGRET IT, I GUARANTEE YOU THAT!
If you buy it, that's a gasser.
Original Android <3ers! said:
DO NOT GET THE G2! 800 MHZ PROCESSER ONLY! YOU WILL REGRET IT, I GUARANTEE YOU THAT!
If you buy it, that's a gasser.
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That will be easily overclocked to 1ghz and if you play games, this phone will be unmatched.
I'm a noob by comparison but that sounds like software issues to me, at least partially.
I have to say, my mt3g did a lot of weird **** like that when I installed CM6, but I think I may have just had a corrupted file. Before you decide it's dead, unroot and return to oem and see how it does. You might be surprised...
Unless a good working 1Ghz processor Android phone comes out Id wait.
There are some phones like the Vibrant and Captivate that are almost perfect too but the gps software or maybe even HARDWARE is bad, some have experienced other major issues like the driver isn't compatible and is not picked up by their computer, android lags and you cant use turn by turn Google Navigation on many of them.
You are on T-Mobile so hold out til early next year, there will be more options likely in 2011.
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That will be easily overclocked to 1ghz and if you play games, this phone will be unmatched.
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Good point, if this is possible and the CPU is under clocked (Usually the case) from factory that's definitely a logical option.
legend221 said:
Unless a good working 1Ghz processor Android phone comes out Id wait.
There are some phones like the Vibrant and Captivate that are almost perfect too but the gps software or maybe even HARDWARE is bad, some have experienced other major issues like the driver isn't compatible and is not picked up by their computer, android lags and you cant use turn by turn Google Navigation on many of them.
You are on T-Mobile so hold out til early next year, there will be more options likely in 2011.
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I believe your solution is a little unreasonable. Any 32B device I say has to be replaced by a stronger device this year! There will be little or no development/support after the G2/Project Emerald has been released and the hardware is horrible. I am embarrassed when someone asks to use my phone since it is really slow.
I saw get the Vibrant, G2 or what until Project Emerald is released.
For me, I want to get the G2 because of
1)Stock Android 2.2
2)The GPU on that device is amazing.
3) The CPU performances better than any old snapdragon 1 Ghz phone.
4) The keyboard brings more options for playing games.
But if it had 1gHz, then it'd easily be OC'd to 1.2gHz. DUH!
I'm getting so impatient for this G2 to hit the stores. If they delay the release I'm going to **** a brick.
EDIT - I LOVE that this forum has no swear filter!
Get it if your contract ends in 1-3 months.
If you contract doesn't end in 1-3 months, wait until it does end so you can choose between the G2 or Project Emerald (or even switch carriers)
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Rooting your phone has benefits and all, but after spending countless hours on this site, I think my phone MIGHT have been better off left alone. the speaker and mic randomly stop working (usually right as i am about to receive an important ass phone call, or when someone is calling me back), making it UNUSABLE AS A PHONE... and it IS a phone after all. the dialer lag was bad when it was stock, but now it is soooo slow it is unusable every now and then. ive never found a way to fully back up my apps, so i pretty much just lose them all every time i flash, and re load them as i need them, usually forgetting half of them even exist.
/rant.
I take it you use a Hero.... well, if it works like a myTouch or G1, can't you just unroot?
teddypepper52 said:
Rooting your phone has benefits and all, but after spending countless hours on this site, I think my phone MIGHT have been better off left alone. the speaker and mic randomly stop working (usually right as i am about to receive an important ass phone call, or when someone is calling me back), making it UNUSABLE AS A PHONE... and it IS a phone after all. the dialer lag was bad when it was stock, but now it is soooo slow it is unusable every now and then. ive never found a way to fully back up my apps, so i pretty much just lose them all every time i flash, and re load them as i need them, usually forgetting half of them even exist.
/rant.
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Have you tried different ROMs, or just one?
I have a Hero, like him. You should go back to a 1.5 ROM, some people have audio loss issues with 2.1 roms. Check out my 1.5 ROM, Souffle here if you're interested
EDIT: Whoops the download's down. Hehehe. Check out Fresh 1.1 here for a rom that you can actually flash lol.
I have only used stock ROMs. I understand that some people love the aspect of setting things up and trying new stuff out, but I just need my device to work and it does. Sure, my programs list takes 5 seconds to load (OH NO!!!!!!!) and my home screen doesn't have 3 shortcuts below my schedule for the day (STOP THE PRESSES!!!!), but it works.
Well, I ditched my iphone to try out the nexus one... I just got the phone today and I barely know how to use it stock (2.1). Phone is untouched, brand new from google...
I guess I would like to take advantage of the phones power and more importantly, try out version 2.2.... any advice where to begin, tutorials etc? thx in advance, I will go back to reading this site!
First, get to know your phone. Use it as long as you can before rooting, until you get used to it and EVERYTHING it does. When it starts to get boring, ROOT it! By that time you should know every secret the phone offers!
not a big fan of patience... I would like to learn to root it and play around... but nothing brick like...
2.2 would be nice and anything else people recommend, lol....
thx man, goodnight.
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Well, I ditched my iphone to try out the nexus one... I just got the phone today and I barely know how to use it stock (2.1). Phone is untouched, brand new from google...
I guess I would like to take advantage of the phones power and more importantly, try out version 2.2.... any advice where to begin, tutorials etc? thx in advance, I will go back to reading this site!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688000
Inside there's a link, follow the Pre-requisites on that link first... and setup ADB first.
ok so set up that ab thing first then follow the tutorials... also, should I have mentioned it is a *rogers 3g phone (att&t)
thx again and goodnight 4 real
If you barely know how to use it stock.... you should probably figure that out before you go around rooting it, flashing custom ROMs, and trying the latest BETA OS release. Once you've got the stock OS figured out and are getting bored with it, THEN root and move on.
Learn how the phone works. This is no iPhone and the settings with this phone are plentyfull. Have in mind that after you flash a Cyanogen ROM for instance, you will have 4 times more settings to play with, hence the advice to learn the basic functions on your N1. But anyways, you will come to a certain point where the GEEK in you wakes up and you wanting MORE..
DO also know that when you want to root your phone, you need to unlock you phone. Doing this will VOID YOUR WARRANTY. I will also advise you to use your phone for a period of time to see that there are no issues with hardware and build of the phone (buttons, dust under screen, trackball not working, not chargin, loose connectors etc etc..), just to be safe. Coz once you unlock it, there is NO going back to lock it again (at this point)
Setting up ADB and Recovery can be the most struggling with drivers and interface but once that is passed and you start using recovery on a daily or weekly basis, is all smooth ride from there. I guarantee you many hours customizing and experimenting with this phone than any other non-andoid phones you have had in the past.. is pretty much an addiction. i have rebooted this phone more the last 3 months than any other phones in my whole lifetime .
Rule of thumb is always have a recent Nandroid (backup done in recovery) before flashing. Flashing ROM's are usually safe as safe can be. Kernels are not risky to flash either, but remember that Kernels are the ones that controls voltages and speed of you Processor and other things, and flashing wrong Kernels can result in non functioning behavious in your OS and worst case, the processor overheating, so know what you are doing when flashing Kernels. At one point you will start trying out kernels because if you are on a hunt for more battery life, the ROM + Kernel combination are the main things that makes this happens.
Then , a last note: I addvise you to NOT update radios if you don't have any problems with the one you have. The Radio's are the one that controls your ability to call controls your phone's antenna and Wi-Fi. If you DO flash radios and happen to terminate the process, i guarantee you a bricked phone. So beware. If you upgrade to FROYO, one of the processes is flashing a new radio. So let things runs it course once in process.
Have fun trying to optimize your phone to last as long as it can on one battery charge...
If you like to begin in Android World you can start from the following blog
nextworldmobile.com. It has reviews of Android Applications that you must put on your mobile plus Flashing Tutorials etc.
Theunlockr.com is a great website for rooting and anything on the nexus. They also have videos
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pretty valid points from all of you, thanks very much.... I think I will give it a week or atleast the weekend... once I got in on luck.... maybe I will move on
I do buy and sell phones a lot... might be best to wait and see if there is a way to reverse the process and keep warranty intact first?
thx a bunch.
since the OTA Froyo should be coming in by maybe end of next week, i'd wait and just mess with 2.1 for now
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since the OTA Froyo should be coming in by maybe end of next week, i'd wait and just mess with 2.1 for now
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It should definitely be soon, and will give you a chance to have new software and features without voiding your warranty. Win-win :-D
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since the OTA Froyo should be coming in by maybe end of next week, i'd wait and just mess with 2.1 for now
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I really recommand to do that exact thing:
learn nandroid (backups )
then play with your 2.1
2.2 will be out before you could have learned everything you wanted from 2.1
thx again, I am pretty excited about 2.2... coming from a 3gs... I kind of thought I would not like my n1.. but I see no problems with 2.1.... I cannot imagine the performance increase it claims.... gonna be sweeeeet.
So, anything non warranty killing you guys recommend? apps/tweaks etc? thx
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thx again, I am pretty excited about 2.2... coming from a 3gs... I kind of thought I would not like my n1.. but I see no problems with 2.1.... I cannot imagine the performance increase it claims.... gonna be sweeeeet.
So, anything non warranty killing you guys recommend? apps/tweaks etc? thx
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You can download Launcher Pro from the Market to replace the current home Launcher. It will allow you to have up to 7 home screens and makes everything a whole lot smoother when you swipe between the screens.
sweeeeet tip bro, thx!
i believe that there exists a non-warranty-voiding method of updating to froyo. it's much faster than 2.1, and battery life is also improved.
for apps, there are threads about it but, some that are just pretty darn neat would include:
google skymap
barcode scanner
google goggles
some augmented reality apps would be:
layar
wikitude
for a better typing (rather swiping) experience, get swype. you should be able to find instructions on how to put it on around here, and there is a non-timed release in the apps/themes section
i use 'and explorer' as a file explorer
pandora is a must if you like internet media
google listen isn't bad (although i hear good things about other apps) for pulling down any podcasts you like
and, go give the navigation app a try. it's the bees knees. not only does it give turn by turn directions, but as long as you load the trip while in a 3g or wifi connection, it caches the whole thing, so you can drive through dead zones and won't lose the the path, as long as you have gps signal. plus, it switches to street view to show you the destination, when you get there
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i believe that there exists a non-warranty-voiding method of updating to froyo. it's much faster than 2.1, and battery life is also improved.
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yeah, i updated mine via the non-warranty-voiding method, but since i like some of the apps that require root, i had it rooted
to update to frf50 (Froyo) without voiding warranty, you need to download the OTA file and rename to update.zip and place in the root of the SD card
1. power off phone
2. hold down volume down button and press power
3. scroll to recovery and hit power (should take you to screen with an exclamation mark or something similar
4. while holding down power button, press volume up
5. this should take you to stock recovery and you can now apply update.zip from sd card
those may be the correct steps, i don't think i'm missing anything; there's some guide located in the general forum
thx for the app suggestions, I will try them all
as for the above instructions... each site I try to grab 2.2 from.. says it no longer exists? thx
timothydonohue said:
i believe that there exists a non-warranty-voiding method of updating to froyo. it's much faster than 2.1, and battery life is also improved.
for apps, there are threads about it but, some that are just pretty darn neat would include:
google skymap
barcode scanner
google goggles
some augmented reality apps would be:
layar
wikitude
for a better typing (rather swiping) experience, get swype. you should be able to find instructions on how to put it on around here, and there is a non-timed release in the apps/themes section
i use 'and explorer' as a file explorer
pandora is a must if you like internet media
google listen isn't bad (although i hear good things about other apps) for pulling down any podcasts you like
and, go give the navigation app a try. it's the bees knees. not only does it give turn by turn directions, but as long as you load the trip while in a 3g or wifi connection, it caches the whole thing, so you can drive through dead zones and won't lose the the path, as long as you have gps signal. plus, it switches to street view to show you the destination, when you get there
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ps: will pandora work in Canada? thx
okay, so i've had my G1 for about a year. i have played around with it a lot and as recently as a month or so it has been very snappy and responsive with SuperD rom as well as older (4.x) Cyanogen roms. i have flashed cyanogen 5 test-something (-2 maybe?) and didn't really like it, so i tried a couple of the other newer roms. now, it seems like no matter what rom i flash, it has serious lag and responsiveness problems. i have done complete wipes (partitioning the SD card to fat/fat32 only, wiping it completely with a disk wiping utility, re-partitioning with amon ra recovery, and wiping from amon ra recovery), i have installed both new and old roms, i have flashed old and new radios (i have had danger spl for a while), and nothing seems to help! i am getting the HTC Evo on Friday so i guess this doesnt really matter that much, but i am concerned that other people might be having this problem and if i give this phone to a family member or friend i would like it to be functioning as smoothly as possible. it seems like since my hardware hasnt changed, i should be able to wipe, flash my old setup and have nice snappy response time like i had before. right now it's like i open the web browser and load a page and then press the home hardware key and it takes about 5 seconds for the homescreen to load, even though all i have is four icons, the default background, and the power control widget. there used to be no lag at all with this same configuration (an older Super D rom). any suggestions?
i'll just say amen to that. my G1 just isn't what it used to be anymore. I just recently did a complete wipe including completely clearing and repartitioning the SD card and I didn't even bother reinstalling all my apps, i'm just reinstalling them as I find I need them... don't have a lot of widgets... things just aren't what they used to be anymore. i wish i could figure out why. and i'm in contract until NEXT july... so i'm gonna have to figure this out sooner than later.
Same here, but it got a lot faster as soon as I added overclock and removed beautiful widgets!
Agree with the others posted. I do not use beautiful widgets. So that was not the issue with me.
I have also noticed that my internet speeds with t-mobile have dropped in half for the last few months. They (t-mobile) do not provide any real help on that issue. I remember back in '08 a post being made that they will put people on low internet if they exceed the 1Gig download in a month. Has anyone every ran into that one?
I'm not that tech savvy or anything, but you guys do know that just about everything you flash to your phone says "Caution not responsible this will put your phone under major stress... wear and tear... blah blah blah"...
Mine did the exact same thing. I always just assumed that after trying to push it to it's very limit for so long it finally just gave up and couldnt go that far anymore.
This is true. My G1 is having weird problems. I have overclocked before, but not anymore. I think these problems started after I overclocked, or after I flashed the latest radio for the G1.
Developers just write that their ROMs will put the phone under stress just to warn people that their not at fault for their phone screwing up miserably somehow (like with the catastrophic Haykuro SPL... oooo ****, what a mess that was)
When the Haykuro SPL came out, I didn't immediately flash, even though I had the required radio already. I made a few posts in XDA verifying the steps so that I wouldn't **** my G1.
And clocking the G1 to 528 Mhz ISN'T OVERCLOCKING.... the processor was made to go up to that spec, HTC just kept the maximum clock in Android to 384 Mhz to save battery and prevent complaining customers.
The G1 should be able to write it's NAND over a thousand times... it's a flash memory chip, it was made for read/write. It won't get slower unless you really screw the crap out of it, for example, by applying more voltage to the damn thing.
Maybe I should re-flash the radio, the SPL, and erase and flash the recovery and everything else. Or maybe return it to complete stock and bring it back to rooted-ness... that can solve some small little mistake I possible made a while back, in the first months of G1 rooting...
AustinAce said:
Same here, but it got a lot faster as soon as I added overclock and removed beautiful widgets!
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Overclocking is great
But the G1 should still have the same performance as it did when it was manufactured. The CPU is the same, everything is the same. I don't know why it seems like the G1's performance is diminishing... maybe it's just our exposure to superior Android phones like the Motorola Droid or Nexus One?
For all of those that are complaining about their slow G1 devices on Cyan's 5.0.7 turn off swap and compcache. Confirm it with adb shell and type "free" to confirm that it's reading 0 for swap. Adjustments have been made so that you shouldn't need it anymore. Cyan has said himself that you would be digging a "swap grave" if you did. Also, I find it funny how a lot of people b!tch that the G1 won't be upgraded beyond Donut but clearly we can all see why. My suggestion is to turn off swap and compcache. Not good enough? Go back to stock or whatever you were happy with and stop complaining!
For the record I (like thousands of others) have 5.0.7 on my G1 (without swap or compcache) and it's been running fine. Overclocked and all. Using ADW Launcher with 7 screens filled with widgets and shortcuts. I was running it for 3 days straight with heavy usage before it rebooted on me. So I think that it's something that you're doing.
Everytime my G1 has acted up and no amount of recovery and sd card wiping seemed to help. What did help me out though was wiping from fastboot using the
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase system
commands. This will wipe everything in the phone (outside of the sd card).
It should actually perform the same wipe functions as the recovery program does, but I have had luck with this in the past.
BTW, I fried one of my older G1s overclocking it when Cyanogens roms first came on the scene. It just became completely unstable and would shut off randomly and frequently. Unless you've done some hardware damage due to stress or clumsiness, your G1 should be rock solid as Binary says.
Why does my G1 seem to get slower and slower
T-mobile G1 32B Bronze "PVT Dream"
Extended Life Battery and Cover
16 GB Class 6 Card, ext4 1024MB, linux-swap 512MB, remainder fat32, No Compcache, Apps2SD - "before GAPPS"
Cannon202 2.2.1 build, 2.1 firmware, 2.22.23.02, Tried w/wo cpu oc app and Cannon's original build is Superior, would not rec installing oc app at all. The clocking used in this builds kernel is smoking fast, yet made to be unstable imo in my tests against this build with the cpu overclocking app, customizable yet much slower, flakier, and noticeably unfavorable temp increase just holding it ...
My G1 is smoking fast, Great Signal Strength, Excellent wifi and 3G speeds. Things I've noticed in my journey into the "Custom Rom Universe."
1. All it takes is one file,app, or architectural flaw (ext234,Linux-swap,corrupted partitions, faulty cache etc...) - even slight - to destroy the Harmonious bond between software and hardware on any device.
2. Most new phones are coming with Class 2 removable storage from the OEM. A Class 4 card may suffice, but a Class 6 Card is mandatory. If there were faster I would say go even faster on the transfer rate. depending on the application, the Android OS will bounce to and from the SD Card a bunch and more often as more apps are installed (updates), cache, partitions, etc the faster the card the less the phone has to compensate against the slower transfer rates, thus better performance ...
3. Heat/Battery - I tied these together why? Heat from Over-clocking or even just Summer weather or the combination of the 2, kills batteries overall life and output. Not to mention the affect on all electronics from heat, the cooler the better I would assume. If your phone has a custom Rom another factor to take in consideration is the it's going to require more juice from the battery and the change in the amount of load across the board on the phone as it does any pc/mac or any other form of computing device is pull more power which can weaken, damage, or even kill the battery all together. It's amazing how much the integrity of the battery affects the overall performance.
("IMO") - I just thought I might add my 2 cents. The performance on my phone is outstanding and very stable and I have changed the architecture so many times ... I would be embarrassed and damn near ashamed to venture a guess and disclose that information . So like it says "In my opinion" it's alright to disagree . The point is to argue, not to be argumentative , but I thought this information might help someone. Sorry for the long post.
Have you tried putting a new class 6 MicroSD card in? That might be the problem. SD cards only last so long.
I just got mine, even flashed the ROM for mine (T Mobile) and this phone freezes almost literally every 5 minutes and programs freeze a lot and won't allow me to open any other programs and I'm just curious if this is common with other people? I cannot use this phone at all for daily use unless I ONLY use it for texting and not open or use any other programs .
why did you flash it? :S
Mine actually works really nicely, and after changing my polling to 30 minutes instead of as items arrive, i get a completely full day of hard use out of mine...why did you flash it?
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Well if you flashed anything theres your answer
You can flash HD 7 ??? never knew it lol what did you flash it with...
I do get a bit of lag now and then if i open too many programs, but not that bad
must say MS has done a good job of winmo 7 hope the updates come soon though
What ROM? How did you flash? Where did you buy the device.
This is the FIRST device I am using with MS OS on it, that actually did not freeze on me at all. The WP7 on my HD7 is fluid, fast and stable. Not a single freeze or hangup. Of course if you are talking about loading of apps like Twitter and Facebook, well, they take time to update and thats an App issue. Not th OS issue.
I think there is something seriously wrong with your device or what you have done with it. Better call up the customer care and get a replacement.
Not even one freeze in 8 days
I flashed the official TMOUS ROM that's been posted in these forums, and nah I mean it way freezes like every 5 minutes... guess I'm the only one with the problem then ? Even factory resetting it still freezes then reboots like every 5-10 minutes... man this sucks, and the phone is so fluid though...
I do mean it freezes/reboots A LOT!
Is there any way I can get a replacement even though I bought it off a friend? (practically straight up brand new) Like lie or something to T-Mobile and say I got it off some smaller T-Mobile dealer? The phone is scratchless and scuff free.
Or any suggestions?
Is it possible that it's a hardware issue? I don't think it could be though...?
buru898 said:
I flashed the official TMOUS ROM that's been posted in these forums, and nah I mean it way freezes like every 5 minutes... guess I'm the only one with the problem then ? Even factory resetting it still freezes then reboots like every 5-10 minutes... man this sucks, and the phone is so fluid though...
I do mean it freezes/reboots A LOT!
Is there any way I can get a replacement even though I bought it off a friend? (practically straight up brand new) Like lie or something to T-Mobile and say I got it off some smaller T-Mobile dealer? The phone is scratchless and scuff free.
Or any suggestions?
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T-Mobile has a 14 day return policy, and if your friend purchased it on contract (new line, or as a upgrade), then only he can return it as he will be asked for proper ID in order to identify himself as an authorized person the account.
If he bought it outright (full price) and gave you the receipt, you should be able to go back to the same store and return it and get a new.
Either way, I'd say return it and get a new one. And however you flashed it, don't. Its perfect out of the box. Not once has the phone froze on me.
Blah guess I just got bad luck , it seems to freeze 90% of the time whenever I start up the HTC Hub and am in it or go to the main screen. But thanks everyone for your input .
you still haven't answered what rom you flashed.
Also, maybe your friend knew it was defective and hosed you.
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you still haven't answered what rom you flashed.
Also, maybe your friend knew it was defective and hosed you.
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he did actually answered on post #9
anyway, does anyone experienced a lockup when using the alarm when the alarm sets off but left alone for a long time? cause i tried using this phone as an alarm but could never wake me up even on full blast volume. so it is left there for hours .. then when i do eventually wake up .. i see the snooze and dismiss buttons up front and when i tried pressing any of the buttons ..the phone doesn't respond.. so i restart the phone and its back to normal.
Ah yeah guess I did get scammed blah. Oh well, **** happens... the one time I did use the alarm it worked for me and woke me up.
But I seriously wonder why it's all super messed up?
Could it be a hardware problem?
Hmm and right when it freezes it automatically enters airplane mode... then stays frozen until I take out the battery.
EDIT: Actually it seems like the HTC Hub makes it freeze 90% of the time and makes other apps not pop up or nothing. Bah! Would like an update (when HTC/Microsoft releases one) fix this problem?
Please, can you tell us, HOW excatly you've flashed a new ROM , because I thought it was actually impossible before someone find a kind of HSPL or something like that for WP7 ????
tenzin said:
Please, can you tell us, HOW excatly you've flashed a new ROM , because I thought it was actually impossible before someone find a kind of HSPL or something like that for WP7 ????
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see developers section...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=783
I flashed mine because of reboot issues too. Mine would reboot and not only that it would hard reset ! After the flash the phone works like a charm. No freezing, no reboots, no hard resets.
Be sure to choose the right one. I don't believe these are upgrades in anyway, just a fresh ROM to install to start from the beginning.
mine hung at the white splash screen / boot screen, so i hard reset (dialled into my memory from HD1 days!) and it was fine. Took the SIM card out later to put into HD1 to write down things to manually move across (cheers MS for no easy option to migrate*), put it back in, frozen again.
Hard reset: still frozen. Doesn't seem like anything i can do - phone seems bricked. Will have to take back - can't find anything on forums. LAME!!!
*option to migrate / set your own ringtones / use swype / send texts, etc, will be available from 2011
OP, have you called htc and reported the problem. It might take them a couple weeks, but they will warranty it for you since you can't take it to t-mobile.
It has to be hardware if it did it before and after flashing.
call htc @ 888-356-2375 (for USA HTC)
If you have an SDCARD in the phone it could be the problem, remove it.
I would like to keep this short and sweet so...
Basically heres the low down: I got a G1 almost a year ago, got into Rooting/flashing 7 months ago. I noticed in the beginning almost every rom was giving me a problem, Freezing up, hanging for long periods of time, etc. I eventually found a very nice, stable rom thats been lasting me for about 6 months but as of late was being horrible. Force Closing everytime I got a text message, REALLY Hanging for long periods of time, freezing up. Etc.
So I finally got FED UP, and decide it was time for a change, so I grabbed MLIGN 3.3v having seen so many good reviews and what not, thinking it would be the remedy to my poison. I cried. So in short, here is whats going on:
1. It seems to only wanna cooperate when Plugged into the USB, which, isn't too practical.
2. When not plugged in, it is NOT sluggish, but when loading into apps I've noticed it will hang for quiet awhile or completely lock up to the point only popping out the battery will work.
3. I haven't noticed it yet, but on the old ROM it would randomly shut off during phone calls; which leads me too....
4. When ever I shut the screen off (by pushing endcall) it seems to freeze and lock up and eventually either SHUTOFF or REBOOT into a SHUTOFF of the phone and refuse to turn back on until it has been plugged into the USB, or enough time has passed for it to 'forgive me' and by that, I mean randomly work again.
5: Various other things I cant think of right now.
So, basically thats almost everything. Whenever its plugged into USB though, it works like a charm (for the most part).
Would a problem with my Battery be the case? Which, would be awkward but a possibility.
Or did I just do something wrong?
I made sure to factory wipe the phone twice, even 3 times on the last go, I updated the ENG.SPL and Radio every time I tried to reflash just to make sure.
I partitioned my SD Card for 32MB Swap; 512EXT2 (and 7xxEXT2 I forget what it was) and I also upgraded it to EXT3, which showed some improvement... I believe.
So, I just would like to have my phone working, in a peaceful, obedient manner xD.
Forgive me for the block of text, and all help will be appreciated. Thank you guys... I await sound advice
Try different ROM? See which one works best.
Like me, I found that SuperAosp is best suit for me (see my sig for DEV Site and Download, if you want to try it). It had been running fast and I had no issue, what so ever. Occasionally when I loaded apps that hogged the power usage it gets lags, but still good. FCs are at minimal to none (that's just because of the way I handle the apps). Once in a while I noticed that it reboot, when I tried to use the apps that hogged the memory (maybe that was the apps issue).
Only other thing I recommed is to download a different launcher, because the build-in ADW Launcher does not work too well in my opinion.
Another thing, if you wish to keep the ROM you had. I would suggest to change the partition size. (IE: Catch [128MB]/Ext 2 or EXT 3 [1024MB]/ FAT32[the rest]) Now I know other people might say that it's overkill, but to me my G1 performance it great.
I've tried multiple roms as of late, and the one I like the most does happen to be MLIGNs... everything seems to be working correctly for the most part with the exception of what I listed above... Now on the like, 23rd reboot most of the sluggishness that was there before is gone, and everything is pretty much being cooperative, with the exception of like the weather, which isn't updating properly but I can live with that. What I cant live with is the fact that this ROM when not plugged in, will freeze up when in the lock screen, a few minutes after it has darkened and gone black and wont respond at all. Or I'll unplug it and just do a test, swipe left, right for a good minute or two, go into apps and It'll just SHUT OFF. Maybe it really is the battery? I'm unsure. When I look at the battery it does look quiet bloated... I am unsure...
I'm gonna try to set it to what you recommended, and see if that works...
I don't think it's the battery.
Have you tried reformat/partion your SD card (be sure to backup your data first). See my last comment on sizes recommendation for each partition.
Also check on the swappiness setting.
Mhm... so I went back and followed everything you told me to do, including repartitioning to the exact file sizes you told me. (Also I'm guessing Cache meant Swap) So I set everything up and its really blazing fast and stable.... until I remove the USB cord. Then it shuts off, freezes at lock screen when the screen is dimmed to black, and will just randomly shut off while doing things (especially when trying to get into messages)
Also if it helps, I have a Class 2 8Gig SD card, and my Recovery is Ra 1.5.x(I forget.) I'm completely confused... I dunno what to do... I would really like this to just work and stop being a hassle D:
Hmmm, Try reading this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010932
See if it helps.
Nothing :/ Its okay... I'm gonna go play around with other roms, completely re do my phone, make sure everything is updated etc. Then go from there.
Thank you anyways, you were a big help, reguardless of my phones triumphing retardism