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I currently have an At&t tilt that came with the stock software. I was wondering if I should switch over the the HTC rom? What are the benefits? What are the cons?
Also is it true I can use tomtom with the HTC rom?
yes, there is benifits because it will free up space available, and will open everything smoother and faster. Yes, you can use TOMTOM with HTC Roms, i have.. I am using Tmobile so the ATT crap had to go.. good luck!
Read the descriptions of the different roms and see if they appeal to you. TomTom shold work on all of the roms including the stock tilt rom. I run it on my tilt with no problems at all.
Ok I looked through the wiki and while it shows how to flash the HTC rom on there, it didn't mention a comparison between the two(sorry if I missed it).
Could anyone give me a link comparing the two?
Is it risky to flash my phone? Can it brick easily and can it come out of being bricked?
Anyone that has had both roms and tell me which they prefer?
Jebus Chrit said:
Ok I looked through the wiki and while it shows how to flash the HTC rom on there, it didn't mention a comparison between the two(sorry if I missed it).
Could anyone give me a link comparing the two?
Is it risky to flash my phone? Can it brick easily and can it come out of being bricked?
Anyone that has had both roms and tell me which they prefer?
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I haven't seen any cons mentioned yet, and I think there is one.
I have read that there are many benefits to changing to a non ATT ROM, but keep in mind it will voice you warranty. That's why I have never flashed.
In most cases, you could just flash back to ATT ROM, if you needed warranty assistance, but my big fear is what if one encounters the infamous Red Light Of Death and is unable to flash back, or some other situation which makes the phone inoperable?
I'm just too chicken, and too broke to risk it
Original Poster,
I believe I remember seeing a thread in this forum (probably quite deep at this point as it was some time ago) comparing the stock tilt rom vs the HTC OEM rom. I'm betting a search for this thread will get you the answers you are looking for.
cincy1020 said:
I haven't seen any cons mentioned yet, and I think there is one.
I have read that there are many benefits to changing to a non ATT ROM, but keep in mind it will voice you warranty. That's why I have never flashed.
In most cases, you could just flash back to ATT ROM, if you needed warranty assistance, but my big fear is what if one encounters the infamous Red Light Of Death and is unable to flash back, or some other situation which makes the phone inoperable?
I'm just too chicken, and too broke to risk it
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thanks. I think ill stay with the att rom until my warranty runs out. The tilt comes with 1 year right?
can I download tomtom from their site or do I need to do something special to get it?
Jebus Chrit said:
thanks. I think ill stay with the att rom until my warranty runs out. The tilt comes with 1 year right?
can I download tomtom from their site or do I need to do something special to get it?
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Hi:
Yes, the Tilt has a 1 year warranty. ATT is actually VERY helpful and quick at replacing your phone if you ever need it (as long as it doesn't have physical or liquid damage).
As far as Tom Tom, the Tilt doesn't include it at all. If you want it you will have to buy the full version (which I believe is around $150).ATT did this to try to trick you into using TeleNav (for $10 a month).
If you search around, I believe I have seen the taster version (which came on TyTN II) floating around. I haven't used it, so I'm not sure exactly where I saw it.
is there any free gps software out there? doesnt have to be tomtom.
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is there any free gps software out there? doesnt have to be tomtom.
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Google Maps, and Windows Live are both free, although for me they weren't very good. I just don't see the point of Mapping software that doesn't have voice announcements, doesn't seem safe to sit and stare at your phone while driving, lol.
But that's just me, others have said they really like both.
The paid for apps do have voice alerts etc.
I personally use iGo 2006, and really like it. I have also heard very good things about TomTom.
nav4all is free. its very basic, but it gets the job done without costing anything. I would suggest saving up the 100 dollars it costs to buy a copy of iGuidance 4. You get PC, UMPC/Laptop, and PocketPC versions all on the same disk for one price. It also doesnt require a data connection to work, but does require 1.3gb of storage space on your memory card for all the map data. So youll have to figure in another 15-30 dollars for a 2gb card, unless you already have one you can use.
I am going to Barnes & Noble today to get the Nook Color. I want to buy it so I can root it and use it as a tablet/ereader. Are the newest version of the NC's rootable or do I need to buy an older version off eBay or something. Thanks in advance!
No, you're fine. The current firmware, 1.01, is rootable. It'll probably come with 1.0 anyway.
If you want a great value on a quality android tablet, I don't think you'll be disappointed!
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No, you're fine. The current firmware, 1.01, is rootable. It'll probably come with 1.0 anyway.
If you want a great value on a quality android tablet, I don't think you'll be disappointed!
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Alright thanks man, I am actually buying this over the Galaxy Tab, lol. Hope it is as amazing as it sounds.
Buy two nooks, set them next to each other, and cross your eyes a lot. Now you hve a 3d tablet for $100 less than a galaxy tablet...
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PhantomHacker said:
Alright thanks man, I am actually buying this over the Galaxy Tab, lol. Hope it is as amazing as it sounds.
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If you can live without GPS, cameras, 3G, etc., I see no reason to pay over twice as much for a Galaxy Tab. Mine has everything I would have wanted from a Galaxy Tab-- and this is without a custom ROM.
Jason Foss said:
Buy two nooks, set them next to each other, and cross your eyes a lot. Now you hve a 3d tablet for $100 less than a galaxy tablet...
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lol 10 char
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If you can live without GPS, cameras, 3G, etc., I see no reason to pay over twice as much for a Galaxy Tab. Mine has everything I would have wanted from a Galaxy Tab-- and this is without a custom ROM.
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Yes, I bring my evo everywhere, so I can just easily tether to it, I don't need GPS or cameras because obviously the evo has them.
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Yes, I bring my evo everywhere, so I can just easily tether to it, I don't need GPS or cameras because obviously the evo has them.
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Yep - that's exactly what I do. Wireless Tether app (version pre-12 I think I'm using) works great.
While there's no GPS for navigation, it gets other location services from the network, so Google Maps and whatnot get my location to within 100 yards or so.
I’m using my DroidX to tether.
I don’t need camera and crap on the tablet.
I have NFS Shift running on mine flawlessly along with just about all the apps I’ve installed.
I think the new thread should be “what does not work”. Everything I’m using sems to work.
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I’m using my DroidX to tether.
I don’t need camera and crap on the tablet.
I have NFS Shift running on mine flawlessly along with just about all the apps I’ve installed.
I think the new thread should be “what does not work”. Everything I’m using sems to work.
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Cool, thanks for the feedback
You may want to buy somewhere that has a better return policy, but thats really up to you.
When I was at B&N today just to look, two people walked in within 5 minutes with defective units...One had no WIFI, the other had screen issues.
They sent the guy with no Wifi home, telling him he must have typed in his password wrong...They would not exchange for him.. They never even looked at it.
They sent the lady home because she did not have her charger.
I JUST bought mine at Best Buy...First one had a dead dark pixel right smack in the middle of the screen, also had some dust and the flicker everyone mentions..
I exchanged it, however they really gave it the 3rd degree and looked like they did not want to exchange it..They pulled all the packaging apart, turned it on, went through all the menues, etc....
Second one is in good shape, but does have a stuck pixel that only is seen on a full black screen..I can live with that I guess.
Examine yours closely, because I have a feeling there is quality issues.
I would assume they are getting a large amount of returns now and are probably going through them thoroughly..
Alright thanks, I might consider buying from Best Buy then instead.
Just got mine Christmas Eve. I had looked long and hard at a Galaxy Tab. But at the price, I just couldn't pass up the Nook. With rooting, it is everything that I wanted in a pad. As mentioned before, coupled with my rooted HD2, it is an awesome duo.
And as a stand-alone, the Nook does everything I could want. It came with 1.0, but updating was simple. Auto-nootering was just as simple. AWESOMENESS!
Another possibility for the return scrutiny is that that B&N/Best Buy are now well aware of what many are doing with these, and are happy to sell more units--as long as it isn't causing them to lose money.
. . . And one way they could lose money is if people screw things up rooting and want a replacement or refund. Dead pixels have nothing to do with rooting, but the retail world could easily over-generalize as "don't take NookColor returns lightly."
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Another possibility for the return scrutiny is that that B&N/Best Buy are now well aware of what many are doing with these, and are happy to sell more units--as long as it isn't causing them to lose money.
. . . And one way they could lose money is if people screw things up rooting and want a replacement or refund. Dead pixels have nothing to do with rooting, but the retail world could easily over-generalize as "don't take NookColor returns lightly."
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Whats funny is they were taking all kinds of stuff back like Xbox,PS3, even Ipads and never batted an eye, but the Nook got the magnifying glass lol...
So many holiday returns.
Is there such a thing as a pocket size Android device that is not a phone - but has all the other features of a smartphone ?
In other words, a wifi-only Droid/Evo/Thunder/HD2 ?
I was struck by what someone said about the Nook Color, that they did not need the camera or the microphone, because their pocket phone has those things. I do not have a smartphone, because I do not want a big monthly data bill.
But I could use something that could scan UPC codes (or QR codes), take quick photos, and could do voice activated tasks that do not need the nice large screen of the Nook.
Thanks !
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Is there such a thing as a pocket size Android device that is not a phone - but has all the other features of a smartphone ?
In other words, a wifi-only Droid/Evo/Thunder/HD2 ?
I was struck by what someone said about the Nook Color, that they did not need the camera or the microphone, because their pocket phone has those things. I do not have a smartphone, because I do not want a big monthly data bill.
But I could use something that could scan UPC codes (or QR codes), take quick photos, and could do voice activated tasks that do not need the nice large screen of the Nook.
Thanks !
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Maybe someone else can back me (or correct me) up on this as I'm just taking an educated guess here, but any deactivated phone would do this. If you're only looking for a wifi version, that is. You might wanna look into it more, but picking up an old Droid (probably pretty cheap) would work. You would have access to the market via wifi and all that.
yep get used droid, you can use its camera, gps, download textfree/pinger and get text messaging
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Maybe someone else can back me (or correct me) up on this as I'm just taking an educated guess here, but any deactivated phone would do this. If you're only looking for a wifi version, that is. You might wanna look into it more, but picking up an old Droid (probably pretty cheap) would work. You would have access to the market via wifi and all that.
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ADude said:
Is there such a thing as a pocket size Android device that is not a phone - but has all the other features of a smartphone ?
In other words, a wifi-only Droid/Evo/Thunder/HD2 ?
I was struck by what someone said about the Nook Color, that they did not need the camera or the microphone, because their pocket phone has those things. I do not have a smartphone, because I do not want a big monthly data bill.
But I could use something that could scan UPC codes (or QR codes), take quick photos, and could do voice activated tasks that do not need the nice large screen of the Nook.
Thanks !
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If you want something radical try, www alwaysinnovating.com/products/minibook.htm
There is also the samsung galaxy pmps, www linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Samsung-Galaxy-Player-4-and-5/
Also look at Archos, but their smaller units tend to be resistive touch screens so check the descriptions well.
And finally a google search for 'android pmp camera' should turn up a couple hits.
-Zhin
Check out the archos 43 here
http://www.amazon.com/Archos-43-Internet-Tablet-Black/dp/B0042RRTOC
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ADude said:
I do not have a smartphone, because I do not want a big monthly data bill.
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This is my thinking on the matter, too and is the reason why I still use a cheap Chinese Windows Mobile 2G clone phone through T-mobile. However, I've noticed that Phone companies are starting to roll out small data plans for about $10.00 a month. That might be enough to get me to finally buy a smart phone, given that I'd mostly use WiFi for data.
Once tethering plans become affordable I'll probably go with that, but I'm talking $15.00 a month on top for data & tethering, and who knows when (or if) prices will ever reach that level (especially with AT&T swallowing up T-Mobile... yaaay, go duopoly!)
Samsung is making one galaxy player I think its going to be called
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Arbelzapf said:
Cowon D3
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Too bad reviews say it is terrible
I would say simply wait for the Samsung Galaxy Player to actually be released, hopefully this spring.
JLCollier2005 said:
Maybe someone else can back me (or correct me) up on this as I'm just taking an educated guess here, but any deactivated phone would do this. If you're only looking for a wifi version, that is. You might wanna look into it more, but picking up an old Droid (probably pretty cheap) would work. You would have access to the market via wifi and all that.
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I am now looking into this, there are lots of Droids on ebay.
I assume that "BAD ESN" only matters if you are going to use it as a cell phone, and for Wifi use, it would not matter ?
Also, I noticed in the completed listings that some with cracked screens sold for just as much as ones without flaws. Why is this ? Is there some easy way to get the screen fixed ? (Just curious on this one.)
Since the Nexus S's GPS doesn't seem to bloody work and a fix isn't even on the horizon I was thinking maybe I could use an external GPS and hook it up via Bluetooth. There's a couple of success reports for Android phones in general but I don't know which devices, if any, will actually work with a (stock) Nexus S.
Are there any special protocols / features that need to be supported and what do I need on the phone side?
Do you have any specific recommendations?
Judging by the local pricewatch site (http://geizhals.at/) the market is dominated by Garmin and Navilock here.
1+ check some amazon reviews out it should work with anyone that has tried it will an android phone. If not CM7 will most likely have the protocal to support it
What are you talking about? My GPS gets and holds a lock within seconds. Try flashing a different rom, mine took over a minute to lock before I flashed OpenSoju.
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Yea GPS is fine on ns never had any issues
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What are you talking about? My GPS gets and holds a lock within seconds.
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Yea GPS is fine on ns never had any issues
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It's nice that the built-in GPS works on your phone, but it doesn't on mine and I'm on the second unit already. Please do stay on topic.
You would rather continue using a defective phone than listen to people tell you that a non-working GPS is not normal behavior?
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You would rather continue using a defective phone than listen to people tell you that a non-working GPS is not normal behavior?
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Do you really think exchanging it a second time would help any? (Not a rhetorical question, btw.)
Have a look at the many many threads around here by people who have problems with the Nexus S's GPS. Or at the mile-long thread over at Google Help. Or at reviews over at Amazon. Everywhere it's the same picture: A lot of people have problems, a lot don't.
If it were easy to fix it would have been fixed by now, so either it's a hardware issue that only affects some batches (in which case exchanging the phone won't help) or a complex bug that depends on outside factors, e. g. carrier used (same result). I could of course get another phone entirely, but which? The SGS1? For the GPS?
FYI im on my 3rd phone for other reasons and GPS was fine on all 3 devices
you might be getting threw a bad batch like you said ..IDK
demo23019 said:
FYI im on my 3rd phone for other reasons and GPS was fine on all 3 devices
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Hm, not very encouraging, but thanks anyway.
I'm still open to suggestions for an external GPS, though.
Yes I do think exchanging it again would help. You are paying $2,000+ over the course of two years for this phone. Settling for one with capabilities less than advertised seems unreal to me. If I bought a car after the salesman told me it had A/C and it turns out it didn't have any A/C, I would return it in a heartbeat.
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A_Guy71 said:
Yes I do think exchanging it again would help.
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Ok, thanks, I'll try.
A_Guy71 said:
You are paying $2,000+ over the course of two years for this phone.
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Ouch! I realize you're just quoting a round figure but I just did the math and I'm not even paying $500 (assuming US) over two years.
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Ok, thanks, I'll try.
Ouch! I realize you're just quoting a round figure but I just did the math and I'm not even paying $500 (assuming US) over two years.
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Wow, I didn't notice where you were from. $21 a month! You are a lucky guy. The US lags behind in broadband and cell service I suppose..
My GPS never worked too. I downloaded Gps test (by chartcross limited) on the market and after running both this app and google navigation simultaneously my gps worked. Initially it took 5 min to lock in a signal and now i get a signal instantly. Maybe give this a try.
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Yes I do think exchanging it again would help.
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Ok, I got number three and lo and behold it is a little better. Not great, but usable at least.
I'd still be interested in BT GPS that work well with the Nexus S.
I'm also not too happy with embedded GPS receiver.
So I just bought a Holux M-1000C, cheap and much more sensitive.
As additional plus you should get:
- logging during trips
- (to be confirmed) lower battery drain
- it can be adjusted to read up to 10 positions per second
I was surprised how much I could turn off without root... A few services were possible too that don't show here.
I think just getting rid of vrzn stuff helped.... Too bad knox is locked up.
What's ANT radio service?
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What's ANT radio service?
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I don't or intend to ever use those products....
With it gone "when I was rooted before" I still had full functions to NFC, all wireless, wifi direct etc.... It's only for linking to their proprietary equipment
Must have paid big bucks to have it added as bloatware.
http://www.thisisant.com/directory/ant-radio-service
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What's ANT radio service?
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FM RADIO
I have most of these off as well.
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FM RADIO
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But the phone doesn't have FM?????
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But the phone doesn't have FM?????
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, guess they figure a little bloat doesn't hurt anybody ?
Wow I thought if I disable it something will break or cause error. Thanks guys
nabobcoffee said:
Wow I thought if I disable it something will break or cause error. Thanks guys
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It definitely can! I did research on Google for each and every one of these that I wasn't sure about?. I recommend anyone do the same if they are not comfortable and remember one man's trash is another man's treasure, you have to know what it is otherwise you may get rid of a feature you really want that someone else could care less about.
If you go to the running apps in the application manager you can also turn off some services but I'm not sure how to get some of those back because they don't show up and the "turned off" list.
These aren't actually getting deleted its the same as freezing them if you were rooted and using rom tool manager or titanium.
Your phone acts and responds exactly the same as if they were deleted but they are still there and dormant.
Many of them like "ant" can be downloaded directly from the Play Store.
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But the phone doesn't have FM?????
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Some variants do s be sure to check your radio freq. All you have to do is plug in headphones and they work as your antenna. Then you launch the app. It was probably easy for samsung to just toss that on all phones and let the carriers sort it out later.
That's common practice, why if your on a budget it's best to buy the low of a high end company rather than high end if a low end company!
Often parts /software are the same with less features "disabled or not connected" . It's cheaper and higher profit with easier tech support to have less platforms that are truly different.
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Some variants do s be sure to check your radio freq. All you have to do is plug in headphones and they work as your antenna. Then you launch the app. It was probably easy for samsung to just toss that on all phones and let the carriers sort it out later.
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That's rubbish!
Ant is a wireless communication standard based on the Bluetooth radio hardware. You can connect with several heart-rate-measurement devices used by runners and things like that.
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tiwag said:
That's rubbish!
Ant is a wireless communication standard based on the Bluetooth radio hardware. You can connect with several heart-rate-measurement devices used by runners and things like that.
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was thinking fm radi app on sprint samsung devices
If you want to use the most of your battery without root use greenify
It's amazing the level of "Bloatware" you guys get on American carriers! Wow! Up in Canada it's not nearly as bad and has been getting leaner and leaner over past couple of years.
Heck, a couple carriers up here got practically nothing on it but I think it was a time thing and not getting the firmware n source code in time to customize before launch but nonetheless hasn't been *too* bad here on most phones and carriers for a while..
And more importantly we have practically been providing "unlocked bootloader" phones for ever.. That's a BIG plus as the likes of AT&T and Verizon are locking everything down.
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ANT radio service is for connection between your phone & external exercise devices.
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jdomadia said:
ANT radio service is for connection between your phone & external exercise devices.
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It's easy to get back, it's in the playstore