Let me begin by saying that I am an a** for being so careless with my phone(as you will know when you read the rest of this post).
Okay, so two days ago I spilled yoghurt(yeah!) into the USB port of my phone and I didn't take it very seriously and just used a needle to clean it a little. After this my phone worked fine, no problems whatsoever..it was charging fine and running fine.
Today I wanted to connect my phone to my computer, but when I did so, my Windows said that it didn't recognize the device and its probably malfunctioning and I should replace it(probably what I'll have to do now ).
I connected it in every port in my computer, used my dad's blackberry connector, factory reset, even tried eViL's Sense ROM(I had it in my SD card, so tried it).
Even after all the above the computer didn't recognize my phone, although it did charge when connected!
Okay so I thought I should try cleaning the port better, so I took some Isopropyl Alcohol(Second Biggest Mistake) and used a ear bud to clean the port. I connected again and no change, so I decided I'll try later and left my phone in the port.
When I came back 20 minutes later the alcohol had made its way under the right bottom part of the screen and the touch response was messed up. The trackball was constantly glowing red, I fixed the trackball by simply using trackball alert to test a few different colors.
Now I realized I had messed up with the alcohol and I needed to clean the screen somehow(BIGGEST MISTAKE).
I used a hairdryer to blow into the USB port, it dried up some of the alcohol but the screen looked pixelated and the touch response was still screwed.
So then I popped out the screw driver set and started tearing the nexus one down..and from here it was all downhill. I managed to get all the way to the screen, use a lint free cloth to clean the screen and put it all back but all this was of no use. My phone doesn't turn on anymore, all I get is a small vibration on pressing the power button. I connected it to the wall charger and I got the charging LED light and backlight in the touch sensitive button area(great!). I plugged it out and in again and poof the charging LED vanished, no more backlight, no nothing.
What I have tried:
Remove battery and insert
Press volume+up+power > I got a long vibration once with backlight working but never again after that
Let the phone lie for an hour
For those who are lazy to read the whole thread, here is the synopsis:
1) Yoghurt in USB port, left 2 days.
2) No USB mounting, USB charging working.(Tried wiping, reset and different ROM).
3)Cleaned with Isopropyl Alcohol, still no USB > led to distorted screen and touch sensitivity.
4) Used hairdryer, slight effect on alcohol.
5) Persistent Red Trackball light, no effect on restart.
6) Tore down the phone, used lint free cloth to clean the alcohol.
7) Phone doesn't start, only vibrates on pressing power.
8) At first attempt, the backlight for the touch sensitive buttons worked and so did the charging LED, didn't show the light after uplugging.
Now I am lost on what I should do, the phone never had warranty as I am from India and I bought it online. Any suggestions/ideas on what the problem might be?
EDIT:
Just found out that my phone is actually working, but the display isn't. My mom just called me on that number and I somehow managed to pick the phone up and talk with her..any ideas people?
I would have called BS on this story until you used the phrase "my mom".
Anyways, I can't stand people who destroy their phone and then think they should warranty it. Warranties don't work that way. It's dishonest to try and use it for your own mistakes. Your yogurt spill, attempt at cleaning, and disassembling, led to your phone being broken. Purchase a new one and don't do the same thing.
You probably either damaged the screen, damaged the ribbon cable that goes to the screen, or simply didnt connect it right. id take it apart, wiggle around all the connections and clean around them with very diluted alcohol, and wait for it to dry for at least a couple of hours. clean around the port too. Im not sure whats going on with the charge indicator led, or where the connection comes from. Hopefully the phones ability to charge isnt broken, and you left something not connected. Try cleaning and connecting things again, but lettings things dry for a long time first.
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I would have called BS on this story until you used the phrase "my mom".
Anyways, I can't stand people who destroy their phone and then think they should warranty it. Warranties don't work that way. It's dishonest to try and use it for your own mistakes. Your yogurt spill, attempt at cleaning, and disassembling, led to your phone being broken. Purchase a new one and don't do the same thing.
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I never said I was going to warranty it did I? I wanted to get the fact that I did not have a warranty out so I don't get people telling me that I shouldn't have torn my phone down and instead send it to warranty. How was I supposed to know that the alcohol would make its way under the screen? I specifically used Isopropyl Alcohol because it evaporates fast and it meant for cleaning.
I don't need any bashing from anyone who cant stand what I did, I only wanted suggestions on how I would go about fixing the phone if at all possible.
@di2356
I suppose thats the only option I have left, and I guess you missed the edited part of my post.
The phone is actually working now, I am getting phone calls and my notification LED light is also blinking. Only the screen is pitch dark, and as far as I know it doesn't respond to touch. The LED charging light is also working, its only the effing screen
Okay, just tried completely tearing the phone down and cleaning all the contacts. No use, the phone still starts up but is completely blank..maybe the alcohol damaged the AMOLED screen in someway?
I am going to try and contact HTC and see how much repairing this will cost..its probably going to cost me 1/3rd the phones price for everything including the shipping
you said your screen started looking pixelated when you used the hairdryer on it.
that was probably a big mistake and possibly broke your amoled screen.
in any event you really did a lot of things wrong there. it was probably salvageable after the yogurt incident.
for future phones this is what you want to do first thing when any liquid gets on any electronic device. take the battery out right away. if its water or mostly water based liquid then stick it in a bag of rice or other desiccant that will draw the moisture out of it for at least a few days if not a week depending on how wet it got.
for something like yogert in the USB port i would have pulled the battery and cleaned it out of the port with paper towls and toothpicks or similar non conductive material as there can be a residual charge in the device right after the battery is removed or let it sit batteryless for 20 min to make sure all charges have left capacitors and then go at it with something metal carefully.
rubbing alcohol would have been ok to use but only in just enough amounts to get the job done, you obviously did not realize how much you had put in there if it got deeper into the phone before evaporating.
in any event get a new phone and let it be an expensive lesson learned on what not to do
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Eh, bad week. First comes the small crack in my Kaiser's screen, getting out of a car, then somehow the bottom of my cup from BK giving out in my car, pouring water into the area where I leave my phone.
I know you folks have read a fair share of water damage problems, I have searched around for the last hour or two reading threads, but to my avail, haven't came across anyone with the same problem as I.
Basically, as the phone stands at the moment, it's basically completely stock. Haven't flashed anything, added a few programs, etc. Haven't upgraded the battery; everything is how it would be buying a brand new phone, essentially. As for my problem, yes, the water sensitive sticker is pink. The phone was probably sitting in about a half inch of water for 10 minutes; only the bottom half (everything below the LCD) got wet. Then, it probably sat in my pocket for a good 10 minutes before I noticed my leg was getting drenched. I took it out of my pocket, only to see my screen going berserk, thinking that it had to do with my small crack in my screen from the day before. (The crack only runs about 1/8th of an inch in the bottom left corner. The touch screen and LCD were working absolutely fine the entire day with it there.) I noticed the bottom of the phone was wet, took the battery out, etc., and promptly took the SD card and my SIM out as well. I dried everything off, as there wasn't really much water anywhere, just streaks of water here and there, let the phone sit in front of the heat in the car for a good half hour or so, and decided to test it out to see if it works.
Normally, I'd be afraid to put the battery in so quick, but everything seemed pretty dry. On my first attempt, it booted up absolutely fine, with the exception of lasting long. After the AT&T screen and the norm, I got to my home screen where the screen ended up breaking up into pixels and slowly fading black, then to white. I decided to take the battery out and let it dry again.
I got home earlier tonight, took out the hair dryer, dried it on very low heat for 30 minutes, just to be sure, and tried again. This time, everything boots up, with the exception of the graphics. It goes to a very-bright white screen, where the AT&T logo would normally be, then dims a bit, where the green windows mobile load would be, then stays that way. After I know it's fully booted, everything works, but the screen is still white. Keyboard lights up, I can receive and make calls, speaker works. Hell, I know the camera works as well because the back-light goes the brightest when I hit the camera button, and take a picture I can hear the shutter sound.. despite no graphics.
My question is, do you guys think it has to do with the crack in the screen at all, or the water damage? If I had to take a guess, it would be the water. If I touch the crack, or any part of the screen, I don't get the normal black/white discoloring someone would normally get. Yet, why would everything be functional except the screen? Since I bought the phone off of Ebay, I have absolutely no coverage with AT&T, and never planned to anyway, my only resort would be to either mess with the phone itself, or find a repair service.. and of course buying another tilt, which, could kind of burn a hole in my pocket with the holidays and all. I'm tempted to go buy a set of T torx, but of course it'd be my first time taking apart this device and if it is repairable, I'm not trying to be the sole "act" of bricking it.
Anyone have any thoughts or comments? Anything would be appreciated.
Thanks, Scott.
Edit: Gah, just got another RLOD. I've gotten past this once already.. it ended up being my manufacturer's charger. When I toggled with it for awhile, nothing seemed to fix it. I got pissed one night, and jammed the old charger into the USB slot, and viola, amber light. I changed chargers right away, and it's been working fine since. I just tried messing with it again, but nothing happened. I guess I'm going to take apart the device, leave everything standing for a few days, and see what happens, unless of course, someone provides a decent solution to this.
Edit2: Lol, Amber light again. I hate this ****. I'm really looking into the Fuze, but once again, I'd like to get this up and running.
The first thing to do if you get water damage is pull the battery and do not put it back in until you're well beyond sure it's dry and clean. If the liquid was salt water, soda, etc, it would have to be cleaned, then dried.
Otherwise, probably garbage. Especially considering it ran for a while when wet, and you then tried to power it back up after wiping it off.
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The first thing to do if you get water damage is pull the battery and do not put it back in until you're well beyond sure it's dry and clean. If the liquid was salt water, soda, etc, it would have to be cleaned, then dried.
Otherwise, probably garbage. Especially considering it ran for a while when wet, and you then tried to power it back up after wiping it off.
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unfortunately this is quite true... I've been working with electronics (specifically printed circuit boards & surface mount technology) for nearly 2 decades and have seen a number of items with water damage come out fine if it was powered down, cleaned and dried properly.
Disassembly of the tilt and hermes is very easy, especially with Mike's guide. But you have a digital problem. You could take it appart and try to clean the surfaces of the circuit boards with a q-tip and some Isopropyl alcohol, possibly a short amoungst one of the IC's. I think at this point, you've got nothing left to loose. Good luck none the less, let us know what happens. PM me if you think I can help!
Thanks guys, I'll see what I can do.
Hi
I was wondering if the OP managed to get this sorted ? I have the same problem, due to phone somehow being exposed to water. the OS loads fine, but screen stays white.
Is there any solution ?
Thanks
My camera led light just started acting funny an hour ago. It turned on and it si now impossible to turn the damn thing off. It still stays on when the phone is turned off. I've tried removing the battery and then put it back again. As soon as the battery is in, the light turns on again. I've tried a soft reset and ultimately a hard reset. Light remains on.
Don't want to have to go to Sony for this because I bought the phone off the bay a month ago and therefore don't have a receipt so it won't fall under warranty. Anyone have any ideas? What a pisser.
hi,same here
I think its a hardware issue where the cables have been short and are giving direct connection. I dont know if this will work but try to tap the phone a little hard on your palm. If its just a loose contact it might get sorted. This is a very crude way.
You guys want help or just venting air?
Great story.... so ?!
If you guys want venting off air, that was it! If you are looking for help however, then KINDLY state some info, like:
what the frak is the phone model, firmware, recently flashed, if so to what. Branded or unbranded, built date, etc.!
After that, perhaps a few answers can be expected
MichaeltheImage: I doubt that in this case this had anything to do with software because of the fact that it remained on after a boot or when the phone is off.
Moleculez: Yesterday it ended up fading by itself after 2 or 3 hours. This morning it started again as I removed the battery. Tapped the led side of the phone on my palm a few times; and it worked. Thanks.
"Anything mechanical, give it a good bash."
Incase someone is still looking for a way to fix this problem:
I managed to pry the plastic covering off of the camera lense/ LED with a needle.
All it took was a slight nudge on the LED cluster to reposition it. It was situated slightly off to one side, causing the short circuit which lead to the LED being constantly lit.
Problem is, in my initial frustration I poked the LED and broke it which, as a result of the short, meant that although the LED was no longer lit it still drew power from the battery.
The only way I know that the later fix worked was by using a power consumption monitoring tool to verify that the LED (and the short circuit) was no longer drawing power.
Awesome.
Yesterday I was texting someone, didnt even finish the message because something else demanded my attention. So I close the keyboard and put it in my pocket.
5 minutes later I take my phone out, and its off. I try to turn it on but nothing happens. Tried taking out the battery and SIM, waiting a few minutes, and put them back in, still nothing. I take it up to T-mobile and they tell me its a month out of warranty.
So earlier today, I say "ehh what the hell" so I try again, this time I held the power down for about 10 seconds, while its connected to a charger, and it boots up! I get past the G1 screen to the Cyanogenized boot screen (5.0.7 test 5 if it helps...) and in excitement I call someone in to show them. As I pick up the phone to show them, the usb cable is yanked out, and the screen goes black. Never felt ****tier. Tried to get it to power on again....back to square 1.
About an hour or two later, I look over and the face keys and keyboard are backlit, but still nothing on the screen. I also noticed that if I take the battery out while its off the charger, the backlight for the buttons will turn off, but will immediately come back on once the battery goes back in.
Basically, Im stumped, and any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: Now the button backlight is off...
I think your phone didn't shut off actually.
Try the 3 finger solute!
Hold send, end, and the menu button.
I've also had this happen to me, and to tell you the truth it didn't turn out good. :/
After awhile My touch went completely out.
It happened when I was running an experimental rom.
Also try restoring a back up if you created one before it started happening. :/
Well I know its off, Ive taken the battery out, and havent gotten it to come back on except for the one time. And Ive removed the battery since then as well. Ive tried power+home, power+camera, power+menu+send. None of them have worked.
One of two things, hopefully the first:
1.) You have a bad battery, replace it, or borrow a friend's and see if that works.
2.) You have a new paperweight. In that case, my condolences, friend.
Seriously, though, from what you described, it sounds like your battery just bit it. Try taking it out and examining it for any bulging or swelling that may not have been there before.
The woman at the T-mobile store tested a different battery and a different charger, so in my case its not likely, but I will give it another shot, since things have somewhat perked up. Right now the button backlights will randomly come on and stay on for a while, slowly dimming, and then eventually turn off, only to come back on later.
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The woman at the T-mobile store tested a different battery and a different charger, so in my case its not likely, but I will give it another shot, since things have somewhat perked up. Right now the button backlights will randomly come on and stay on for a while, slowly dimming, and then eventually turn off, only to come back on later.
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After reading you tried different batteries, I think you're in the market for a new phone. =[
The battery idea was the only thing I could have thought of as well.
Hope you manage to figure this out without having to buy a new phone, though. =[
In regards to your most recent post, sounds like some kind of short. There wasn't any water exposure was there? I've actually heard of people having there phones in their jeans pocket and sweating enough to turn the indicator and fry the board.
But yeah, it sounds like phone death. I would totally disassemble it and check for any corrosion though. Who knows, you may save it, then you have fat bragging rights
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In regards to your most recent post, sounds like some kind of short. There wasn't any water exposure was there? I've actually heard of people having there phones in their jeans pocket and sweating enough to turn the indicator and fry the board.
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They must be doing some serious running.... or be really, really fat.
Btw, you can check to see if your G1 got exposed to water, OP. Take out battery and there's a little sticker under the IMEI sticker. Its round. If it's white - you're good. Any other color (i think it turns red or blue?) there's water damage.
hey guys here is a story
so i removed my xperias factory screen protector (because of a major scratch on it) and it left some
residue on the screen. so i started washing it off in the sink w/soap and water. although after i finished i dried it off and
noticed that the water enter the ports (headphone and charger) because the rubber bits were broken. (so i thought it cant be that bad i
took a shower with my one s multiple times and it didn't fritz up or anything) then i noticed my back light flickered and i
thought this is bad so i proceed to turn it off but it wouldn't stay off (it practically boot looped several times) then it finally
turned off then i placed my charger in just to see what would happen it had a red led w/ 3 vibrates after a bit i
blow dried it with a hair dryer and sucking and blowing my device like CPR and finally burred it in rice (what i should of done
before) and left it over night then i woke up plunged it in the charger and my screen had water and my lock
button doesn't work although it seams everything else works (i think the usb is buggy)
although i think im going to have to buy a new button thinginy and i was also wondering if i replace my mobo with a 6603 because i have a locked tmous version. could everything run normally and have an unlocked boot loader?
read the red if tltr;
You water damaged your phone, so you will have to replace more than the "button thinginy".
You will be better of just buying a new phone, as the cost of all the parts you need will be in excess of buying a new one.
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honestly for all the trouble of finding a motherboard, disassembling your device to fix it DIY, you might mess it up and it might cost you more.
unless you REALLY know what you are doing and have NOTHINg to lose, just send it in for repairs. or just buy a new phone.
you two are probably right about not taking the risk although I did find out I have a faulty battery and the buttons I found out that the volume up key took the place of the power button (it can only wake the phone) and it also does it's normal duties
I'm going to do a change log soon (yes a change log) on my phones states for any solutions
plz I didn't even own it for more than 6 months sad panda Is sad
Hi all,
Last weekend I tried to fix the GPS on my Xperia Z (C6603) - it couldn't lock any satellite and according to all tests it was a hardware problem. When I opened the back cover I saw that the GPS antenna wasn't securely attached anymore (thanks to the third party who replaced my screen last summer I guess). While I was at it, I also wanted to check the speaker since the volume is generally quite low. Doing so I had some difficulty getting the battery out but it didn't look like anything was damaged by it.
I fixed the GPS antenna and reassembled the phone, but now it won't boot anymore...
When I try to boot it the LED blinks red three times and then stops. Nothing more. It only seldomly responds to a cold reset (vol up + power for 10 sec.) but mostly not. When I connect it to the wall socket or laptop the LED burns red continuously.
When I opened the phone I still had about 70% battery left so that should be fine. Nevertheless I've had it on a charger overnight (LED continuously red) and tried the next morning without success.
What I have found is that the red LED indicates either a broken bootloader or a hardware fault. Since it occurred after I opened the phone I would assume the latter.
I have managed to do a repair through the PC Companion software but without result. I can still get the phone in fastboot (LED turns blue) connected to my laptop to flash. The screen doesn't turn on, though I'm not sure if it should? I'm also not sure if being able to connect in fastboot excludes hardware failure?
I haven't tried to root/flash because I first want to ask for some advice on a more systematic approach to fixing it. Also, tonight I will pick up a friend's Xperia Z with a broken screen for spare parts (same model, he got it one month later). So except for the screen I have working replacement parts. Besides the screen replacement (with original Sony parts) the phone was still in original state both in hard- and software.
I would really like to fix the phone since I liked it and I'm stuck to a SIM-only plan until December still. Third-party repair is out of the question because of costs; then I'd rather spend it on a new XZ5.
Any ideas on how I should approach this?
After some trial and error, I have managed to flash a stock ROM (.253) on it. No luck with that unfortunately. When I try to turn it on, there is a small vibration after a few seconds and that's it. Again the phone responds to a cold reset, but when I try to boot it after the LED blinks red three times again. That's all it does.
I would say the only thing to still try now is swapping the motherboard with the other phone, not? Or are there any other suggestions?
Well, I would assume that it is a hardware problem, especially taking in to the account that you touched components inside.
Even if we all know how phone work, and where are all components are, its not recommended to touch anything inside if you dont have steady hand and environment to make any repair(clean place, no humidity, clean hands).
One bad plugged connector can brick your phone. One time I even had problem on other phone with really small rust on one pin that I touched with finger(sweat from it+time+really crappy weather where I had to use it), so it show how actually fragile phones are.
But few questions, when you managed to flash rom, you get all that android logo when you are in flashmode, and it show everything(loading bar etc) on screen?
Im asking because first symptom of bad battery connection is deformed or totally dead screen.
When you fixed gps antenna(that black plastic on top near camera) you used any tool that could damage board? its near microUSB so its easy to mess those small pins and make short circuit.
The same with battery, you could try to squeeze/move it a bit to see if there is any changes in phone boot behavior(not to gentle way to check it but sometimes it show if there is a problem)
Before changing motherboard I would replace battery from your other phone(charged before that) and check all pins on connector and board near it if there is any problem.
But as I said it should be made really delicate and in appropriate conditions.
Sadly I cant really help with it beside that, and I hope your phone gonna stand up after that somehow :/
Thanks for the reply Akinaro. Indeed the conditions are not ideal. At least I have one of those repair tool kits with the small screwdrivers, plastic pick and plastic levers for the connectors. I'll also set a reminder to take some latex/nitril gloves from the lab for next time
But few questions, when you managed to flash rom, you get all that android logo when you are in flashmode, and it show everything(loading bar etc) on screen?
Im asking because first symptom of bad battery connection is deformed or totally dead screen.
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No, the screen is totally dead. No sign of life whatsoever.
When you fixed gps antenna(that black plastic on top near camera) you used any tool that could damage board? its near microUSB so its easy to mess those small pins and make short circuit.
The same with battery, you could try to squeeze/move it a bit to see if there is any changes in phone boot behavior(not to gentle way to check it but sometimes it show if there is a problem)
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Possibly. I have used both the screwdriver and the plastic tools, but fiddling everything back in was tricky. The battery was disconnected though so it shouldn't have short-circuited. I will try with moving around the battery. But the more I think of it, the more I start thinking that I screwed up the motherboard by touching something there.
Before changing motherboard I would replace battery from your other phone(charged before that) and check all pins on connector and board near it if there is any problem.
But as I said it should be made really delicate and in appropriate conditions.
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I have tried the other battery last night as well. I didn't charge it first though, I left it in my phone to charge overnight and tried to boot it this morning, without result.
So I've attempted to swap the motherboards. Good and bad news...
The good news is that the spare phone works with every combination of motherboard and battery, so neither of those is the culprit. The bad news: none of the combinations work on my own phone, even with swapping all the other hardware components (camera's, gps, antenna etc.).
On the other hand, by now the LED doesn't turn red anymore. The phone just stays completely off. I didn't have time to try and charge it for some time though, so I'm not sure if it's a good or a bad sign.
I fear that the main multiconnector running under the battery might be damaged when I took out the battery and antenna module the first time. That is the only component that I cannot swap for it is so integrated - it would mean swapping the screen to the spare-parts-phone and using that one.
Any ideas still before I should consider it a write-off completely?