[SOLVED] Help to choose rooting method and backup method - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Got my phone (AT&T Captivate, firmware 2.1-update1 version JH7, kernel 2.6.29, build eclair.UCJH7) on december 28 from a AT&T store (it even came with a pic taken december 20 ) and I've already been able to boot into download mode (power off, hold volume keys then plug usb) and into that menu used to install packages (power off, hold volume keys then power on). Guess my hardware and firmware are ok, so I may be able to recover my phone by myself in case things go south.
I've been doing my homework lately (been reading stickys, tutorials and faqs for 10 days) but I'm still confused about some procedures. I'm not going to list everything I've read here, but I would like someone to correct me if I've learnt wrong. I don't really need the easiest methods, I want to understand the options available and to choose the best ones (aka the hardest path).
First of all, it seems I need to root my phone in order to be able to create backups, carrier-unlock it and flash custom roms. But it doesn't make much sense to me, since rooting it seem to be enough to prevent it from receiving FOTA updates - and I want to make the most comprehensive backup possible, in such a way I could restore my phone to 'factory condition' if needed.
Second, I realize there are many ways, programs and guides to root the phone - the most famous ones, One-Click root/unroot and z4root, seem to be listed in the wiki (http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I897), but there is also CLShortFuse's One-Click Root and Allow Non-Market Apps, which sounds interesting but I don't know if it is undo-able. So there are different ways to root the phone, but there is little to none information on what's the difference between these methods, which is 'better' and what difference does it make if I root it permanently or by some reversible method. Does it affect performance? How each of them work? I have no clue.
The mess gets even greater when it comes to creating backups. People mention different programs to make these backups (clockwork recovery, titanium backup) but I don't understand if they back up different parts of the phone. Some even seem to change the bootloader of the phone - shouldn't it be backed up prior to any modification? Do I flash these backups using Odin? Which programs should I use to have a full backup? Is there anything left I should back up manually?
I'll quit talking for now because I've already written a lot and I still have many questions; if I write all of them at once, no one will ever have the patience to read them.

Erk, a long post deserves a long answer
So first off, il tell you about recovering your phone. Since you just got it, you can go back to the store and play dumb to get a new one in case anything goes wrong. You can also use the 3 button combos to get into download mode and use odins back to stock to get back to your original 2.1 eclair firmware . To do that you would need to get into download mode. Now there are a couple ways to do this, and i can only explain two since ive actually used two. (Well 3 actually, but il get to the third after these 2)
The first method is using the 3 button combo which you should already know. The second method is using adb commands such as (adb shell, adb reboot download, adb reboot recovery, adb devices). The third way is building a jig. Thats basically connecting 301k 1/4 watt worth of resistors together and placing them on pin 4 and 5 on your micro usb slot. You can read more about that on the tutorial on how to build a jig for your phone.
To restore to your factory setting, odin's one click back to stock thing should do the job. It simple installs the stock 2.1 eclair all over again (without the root).
To root your phone, any method from the wiki should work. None of them are really "better" :S, they all do the same job and give you super user permissions. None of them root your permanently since you can always go back to stock using Odin's... It does not really affect performance, not to any extent i have noticed :S, and unfortunately, i dont really know how it works.
As for creating backups, Titanium Backup is the best solution. Whether you have the few extra bucks to spend for the premium one or simply want to use the free one, its one of the best tools out there. I personally use it and its one of the best. It backs up all the data (except for my text messages). It creates a folder on your internal memory which you can just copy to your desktop. When the time comes that you need to restore your backup, just copy the folder back into your internal memory, load up titanium backup. Restore it and voila .
I think ive answered everything, if ive missed anything, let me know
Edit : Forgot to mention this . If your truly interested in customization. Custom roms are the best there is a howto in the themes and apps section on how to install it. It comes pre-rooted (if that is the word to use :S) and theyre much better than the stock firmware. Im currently using serendipity v3.0 (flashed it yesterday)

supaphreek, guess I'll have to thank you twice: once for reading my enormous post, and again for you supacompleteanswer.
I'm being paranoid with recovery because I actually bought the phone in the US then came back to my country (Brazil), so I'm a few thousand miles away from the simple lets-return-this-thing solution.
From everything I've read, I believe the most instructive were the wiki at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I897 , the FAQ at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858765 , the PDF guide from user nbs11 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761819 and the wiki at http://www.capfaq.com/w/FAQ. These contain most of the info a newbie user would ever need and I'd definitely recommend them to any newbie user who happen to be reading this. And for everyone afraid of bricking, it's a tremendous relief to know pretty much any mess you do can be reverted using download mode and Odin, so the first thing to test is if you can get into download mode using one of the ways described by our buddy supaphreek.
On the rooting matter, I found no discussion at all about which is better, so they should be pretty similar (though I have no idea which is the oldest version, I'd assume the recent ones might be a little improved). There is some discussion on what's the better lagfix and many of the cooked ROMs already come with some lagfix installed, but this is another story...
Once I get my phone rooted, it seems to be trivial to carrier-unlock it. There's even an app on android market for this, so I won't even need sideloading. Since all this procedure does is just give me a number, there's hardly any difference among all the unlocking procedures out there.
For the backup, I'll still do it using both titanium and clockwork, as suggested by nbs11 on the pdf I've linked on this post. Better safe than sorry, right?
And yes, I'm truly interested in customization and I'll go deep down that path, I'm just packing up my head with some knowledge to avoid being desperate if things eventually go fubar.
As a last question, is there somewhere I can get 1-click Odin with my exact firmware version? (2.1-update1, I897UCJH7, Kernel 2.6.29 [email protected] #2, build eclair.ucjh7) And how important is it to get the exact same firmware?
As I've done my research, I found 1-click odin with JF6 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
I've also found the 'standalone' I897UCJH7 on this topic (where this guy even flashed succesfully his phone using old JH2 firmware without problems, so finding the exact firmware version might not be the greatest issue): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36 but this process is a bit more complicated and uses regular Odin and clockwork recovery. Nonetheless, from what I've understood, I can still use any old version of odin to flash JF6 then use my own clockwork backup, right?

Hmm, unfortunately, im not sure if there is a specific Odin for that firmware :S. However what you can do is use one that reverts you to any stock version, and then flash the version you want through clockwork mod

I'll do that. Thanks again!

Also if you one click to stock, you can OTA update to the most recent firnware. I suggest titanium premium if you are going to flash a lot of custom roms, it is a lot faster to restore and also syncs with dropbox
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Be careful trying to flash with odin. Some newer builds get instabrick flashing back to jf6 and must go with jh2 or newer.
So, you may want to invest a few bucks in a jig setup before blindly using odin.

Thanks for the tip, sixstringsg.
Newter55, as my phone is brand new I believe I may have one of these insta-brickable devices. If I happen to try flashing it with a recent rom, does it get recoverably bricked (fixed by flashing an older rom), or I'm left with a $500 paperweight?

You just need to use the correct firmware version of odin if you manage to get in trouble. Many people flash rom over rom, including myself, but it is highly likely that at some point you will need odin if you are flashing roms so it is best to ensure that you have that set up first. Look for the odin thread by c3popl (sp?) in development forum and you should find what you need. Read through that and look for others with your base firmware. Or look through q&a at the "help I bricked" threads . On my phone and posting links is a pita or I would make it easy for you.

If your phone came with JH7, follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
If you use one of the Odin one-clicks and brick your phone, you'll need a USB jig to recover.

You guys are awesome. Thank you newter55 and GGXtreme for this info! I hope I'll never need it, but I'll buy a cable and make a jig.
The news: I've rooted my phone using One Click Root / Unroot by TGA_Gunnman (for the record: it worked with my JH7 Captivate bought in 28 dec). Once I booted windows, installed dotnet framework 4 and the samsung drivers (easy too, but a pita), rooting was easy and failproof. However, someone using linux might find it easier to just download 1-click root, find the root.zip file in there, rename it as update.zip, put the zip in the internal sdcard, boot the phone holding the volume buttons and then 'install packages'. This way there will be no need to fight Wine nor install anything nor look for a windows computer with admin privileges.
Also unlocked my phone using SGS Unlock Tool, available in the Android Market. The unrooted option won't work, but once rooted it worked like a champ. Next step: I'll do the backups, and then... start messing up my new toy!

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Noob Question?

so I got a samsung galaxy s captivate SHG-I896 from rogers and I really want to root it, i have z4root installed, but im hesitating. because i dont want to brick my phone, i have had an apple device, jailbroke a bunch, no problems of brick but android is a whole different story, so i would appreciate a few pointers, sorry for posting such a noobish question
Not sure about the Rogers version, but with the 897, if anything goes wrong, ODIN will return it to factory.
I have the Rogers Captivate as well, I was a little hesitant before I did it too but myself and a bunch of my friends that have the phone have done it with no issues at all. Do the permanent root, if it freezes then just pull the battery, reboot and try again. It took me at least twice to root it but it's remarkably easy. If anything really major goes wrong you can always boot to recovery and wipe data but I seriously doubt you'll need to. I'm just speaking from experience so don't blame me if anything buggers it up but to be honest it's not as easy to brick it as you might think.
Just go for it.
just rooted it
i just rooted my captivate with z4root, can any one give me any like tips/warnings/shoulds/shouldnts
Should:
- Get Titanium Backup and batch backup everything. This app will make your life so much easier and hassle free.
- Also, just be careful and don't go crazy with installing stuff you don't know about. Do your due diligence before flashing anything or installing any app or lag fix. Figure out exactly how it's done before you do it. This might sound basic and common sense but from the short time I've been here I've seen a fair few people complain of bricking their phone just because they didn't follow directions that were pretty clear from the onset.
Enjoy!
how to flash
im looking around the forums so, i copied this from the darky rom post:
HOW TO FLASH
1. Place the ROM on the root of your SD card.
2. Backup your apps using Titanium Backup.
3. Open ROM Manager (Downloadable from the market)
4. Choose "Install ROM from SD card". If after you flash and you have problems like force closes and you can't receive calls, wipe data/cache.
5. Let the phone sit for 5-10 minutes after booting.
6. Have fun!
is that all u have to do? no holding buttons and booting into some menu?
also will these roms work for 2.1 rogers version captivate? Because i checked on the wiki for the captivate rogers version and it said something about "optionally change the model in the update-script from SGH-i897 to SGH-i896"
I'm not the best person to ask about this unfortunately but from what I've read this is definitely one way to flash a new rom. Whether you're currently on 2.1 seems to be irrelevant as the rom will act as your new version of Android as it were.
A few things I've read, make sure you have access to both recovery and download modes, if anything happens you'll probably need to flash back with Odin so learn more about that before you proceed.
Best to start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
And finish by reading the remaining stickies and make sure of any special instructions for whatever rom you want to install.
I haven't flashed because, and this sounds strange, I don't actually have access to a computer at my house so I can't use Odin as easily to fix any issues that might occur so I haven't tried yet.
I'll step out and let someone else handle your flashing questions.
If you read the Q&A sticky it would've answered your questions.

Root and stay on stock 2.2.1?

Hello,
I read most of the guide but couldn't find certain answers there nor by search, but apologies if I missed them elsewhere.
1) I'm happy with my SGS, I always used stock ROMs and am now on 2.2.1. I'd like to get root access and leave the rest as it is, however.
Is there any way to get root access with the stock 2.2.1 ROM without switching to a completely different ROM (as said, I like the stock ROM and don't feel like changing the layout, features and all that come with a new ROM)?
I saw that superoneclick thread but apparently it didn't work for everyone and questions are usually not answered there if people run into trouble so I didn't dare that yet.
2) Still a bit confused about the 2 modes. Do I need recovery mode to work? Or will download mode do to flash (if I have to) and rescue/fix my phone if something goes wrong?
My 3 combo button never worked so I bought a JIG dongle on ebay which gets my phone into download mode at least, but I still have no recovery mode yet that's why I'm asking.
Thanks!
There's an app called Quick Boot which will allow you to get into recovery mode but you need to have phone rooted.
Note though that Froyo uses 3e and I've tried to use update zips, wont take without going down to 2e recovery.
Landorin said:
Hello,
I read most of the guide but couldn't find certain answers there nor by search, but apologies if I missed them elsewhere.
1) I'm happy with my SGS, I always used stock ROMs and am now on 2.2.1. I'd like to get root access and leave the rest as it is, however.
Is there any way to get root access with the stock 2.2.1 ROM without switching to a completely different ROM (as said, I like the stock ROM and don't feel like changing the layout, features and all that come with a new ROM)?
I saw that superoneclick thread but apparently it didn't work for everyone and questions are usually not answered there if people run into trouble so I didn't dare that yet.
2) Still a bit confused about the 2 modes. Do I need recovery mode to work? Or will download mode do to flash (if I have to) and rescue/fix my phone if something goes wrong?
My 3 combo button never worked so I bought a JIG dongle on ebay which gets my phone into download mode at least, but I still have no recovery mode yet that's why I'm asking.
Thanks!
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Warning etc I take no resposibility if you break something etc
First of all fix your 3 button for recovery, there should be some guides around here.
1. Try that superoneclick you posted the link to. If it wont work it wont work... But it will.
2. Recovery you need only if you want to tinker with the rom a little more and to do nice stuffs like backup. Or for a recovery
Oh and I am on stock rom + custom kernel + another modem and happy with it.
First I was rooted and the rest was as it is and I rooted with the super one click root . Dont forget USB debugging on. Once you root though I think wont be long till you start customizing a little . Good start is a nice good custom kernel
If you want to stick with stock you could try these stock roms which come pre-rooted, zip-aligned and deodexed (making them smoother and allowing the application of themes).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948790
To fix the three button combo have a read of this thread. The OP of this one is really helpful if you're not sure what to do. I had to do this and it was the most nerve racking thing i've done to my phone as if this screws up you'll be sending it for repair.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821698
Thanks a lot to all of you for your answers!
Had my first successful flash today (3 button combo mode) and will now take a more in depth look at rooting etc.
So far, I feel more comfortable to try a rooted stock kernel maybe instead of superoneclick.
However, if I had to unroot for any reason, how can I do that if I flashed the kernel?
The way I understood about ROMs and Kernels is that ROMs already contain kernels. So flashing a stock ROM would get me back to a stock kernel and the phone would be unrooted again?
you can also just flash a kernel and root such as cfroot or speedmod..
Jamalsid said:
If you want to stick with stock you could try these stock roms which come pre-rooted, zip-aligned and deodexed (making them smoother and allowing the application of themes).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948790
To fix the three button combo have a read of this thread. The OP of this one is really helpful if you're not sure what to do. I had to do this and it was the most nerve racking thing i've done to my phone as if this screws up you'll be sending it for repair.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821698
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To un-root you can just flash a stock ROM (look in the general section to find them).
If you like stock ROMS then like the person above stated you can just flash a pure stock ROM then flash a new kernel (i.e. speedmod, voodoo etc.).
Good to hear the 3-button flash worked for you, now it is very difficult to brick your phone as you should always have the 3-button download mode which enables flashing with Odin.
Just be careful when picking a stock ROM, especially if its new, to check if it includes a new bootloader!!
Thanks all again!
and good on you for being sensible enough to get a jig.....best fiver I spent in ages. Every time I flashed back to an early stock it trashed my bootloader.
no worries about flashing now
Landorin said:
Hello,
I read most of the guide but couldn't find certain answers there nor by search, but apologies if I missed them elsewhere.
1) I'm happy with my SGS, I always used stock ROMs and am now on 2.2.1. I'd like to get root access and leave the rest as it is, however.
Is there any way to get root access with the stock 2.2.1 ROM without switching to a completely different ROM (as said, I like the stock ROM and don't feel like changing the layout, features and all that come with a new ROM)?
I saw that superoneclick thread but apparently it didn't work for everyone and questions are usually not answered there if people run into trouble so I didn't dare that yet.
2) Still a bit confused about the 2 modes. Do I need recovery mode to work? Or will download mode do to flash (if I have to) and rescue/fix my phone if something goes wrong?
My 3 combo button never worked so I bought a JIG dongle on ebay which gets my phone into download mode at least, but I still have no recovery mode yet that's why I'm asking.
Thanks!
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Mate if you just want a simple to apply root access I would just use Z4root... its not used so much anymore but it works well and can be installed by just installing the app(can't be obtained from android market, internet only)..
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
otherwise you can just use Odin to flash CF-Root ( I do this all the time on stock firmware and works perfectly every time).
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
mossy1963 said:
and good on you for being sensible enough to get a jig.....best fiver I spent in ages. Every time I flashed back to an early stock it trashed my bootloader.
no worries about flashing now
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Exactly my thought.
Bluephantom3 said:
Mate if you just want a simple to apply root access I would just use Z4root.
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otherwise you can just use Odin to flash CF-Root ( I do this all the time on stock firmware and works perfectly every time).
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
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I used z4root on 2.2 but afaik z4root no longer works with 2.2.1.
I did flash the CF Kernel now and quite happy with it so far.
By the way, is it a bad idea trying to flash with Odin if the phone is connected via a USB hub instead of connecting it to the direct usb port? Each flashing failed on the 1st attempt (worked on the 2nd), no matter what I flashed so far. Some searching here indicates a hub is not recommended.
If that's the case, why is that not mentioned in all those read-me-first guides (or maybe I missed it somewhere)? Not every first-flash user will have a JIG at hand.
You're right you should have the USB cable plugged into a USB port on the motherboard (not a port in your pc case or a hub) for the least chance of flash failure.
Not sure why though tbh, I think it may have something to do with the Samsung USB drivers that get installed with Kies being a bit flaky.

[Q] Froyo to Voodoo..WITHOUT Odin

I have not specifically found this issue anywhere so hopefully when we can find the answer it will help alot of people looking to install Voodoo in the future.
As the name suggests, I need to install the Voodoo lag fix on a Froyo I9000 with minimal risk and hassle as I use my phone for my business so can't be without it for even a day, and don't know enough about the intricacies of the OS to be able to dig myself out of a hole I might get myself into.
So I wanted to check if anyone has done this before, and if it will work/is the right way to go about this. I dont want to use Odin it is too risky IMO.
My phone is currently stock, and unrooted. Is this the correct process?...
NB. Build Number: FROYO.DTJP5, Baseband: I9000DTJP3
1. Root using TGA_gunnman's one-click tool, info on which can be found here: addictivetips dot com /mobile/how-to-root-and-unroot-samsung-galaxy-s-i9000-with-a-single-click
2. Install Clockworkmod, further info can be found here: addictivetips dot com /mobile/what-is-clockworkmod-recovery-and-how-to-use-it-on-android-complete-guide
3. Use CWM to flash voodoo (found here dl.project-voodoo dot org /stock+Voodoo/update_zips/ , or here dl.project-voodoo dot org) P. S. how do we know which one to use/is the right one for our phone?
Any verification or elaboration on these steps would be greatly appreciated!
P.P.S. I know there are multiple ways to possibly do this, but I am looking for the process that requires the least hassle & expert knowledge, and first and foremost the lowest amount of (bricking) risk.
Well you should probably check you have download mode and recovery button combos working first(vol up, home, power for recovery/vol down, home,power for download(do a battery pull to get out of it). Then to be safe after rooting you should back up the EFS, search to find out how and what. Then your method seems fine(not the addictive tips has a separate page for installing CWM on the i9000). Personally I think it would be easier to use Odin, it's quicker and definitely less hassle, and if you do make a mistake Odin is normally your backup, if you know how to use it you should be able to get yourself back up and running.
Thanks heaps for the info shrapnel, I have a bit more reading to do..
I will do some further research and come back with an updated process, hopefully one I have tried and tested myself!
In the meantime if anyone has any further input to share, I am definitely listening.
So once you have installed the Voodoo kernel(The kernel is like the core of the OS which controls between software and hardware) you have CWM, and with that you can install new rom's(Only froyo ones) and change all sorts of things. And I think the kernel itself has the option to root in it(I used to use Speedmod so I'm not to familiar with it). So good luck and be sure to ask anything before you flash anything

[Q] help updating rom / pre flight checks

Hi all,
Had my GS a few weeks now but am in a bit of a predicament. When I received this phone I thought that Three had announced the availability of Gingerbread. However, I had not realised that to update the phone with Kies would require that I had a landline broadband connection as I use the phone with usb tethering for my internet use. This being the case I contacted Three who told me I could take the phone into a certain Car Phone Warehouse that has a service center. I had to leave my phone with them the whole day and when I collected it, they had flashed a rom which is not one of Three's and also took me back from 2.2.1 to 2.2. I also no longer have an option in Settings>About phone, for Check for updates.
I have since used super one click and managed to root it (my first time rooting) and done a backup of /efs as I read that is good as it contains IMEI info etc. Also now have Titanium Backup Pro and done a batch backup of all user apps & system data.
Phone has become quite laggy but reading info on using a different kernel it didn't seem to make sense to do that until after updating the rom.
Is there anything here to explain what the rom file name convention means please? I found the following link on here to the stock firmwares but don't know how to differentiate between the rom names? i.e. how do the following two differ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102881
XXJVQ/XXJVQ/OXAJVQ/Sbl (MultiCSC)
XXJVP/XXJVP/OXAJVP/Sbl (MultiCSC)
Is it possible to root gingerbread 2.3.4 after flashing to one of the above?
As I rely on the phone as my only way to connect to the internet should I also do a Nandroid backup? I've only heard a little of this, my understand is, this is a way of creating an image of the phone as it is now so that it can be re-imaged from this somehow if something goes wrong? Any guides on creating a Nandroid backup please? This isn't the name of an App is it, rather a term or something to do with using terminal?
Am guessing I need to move my Titanium Backup files from /mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup somewhere else before flashing or does that not wipe this area?
I've downloaded odin from the thread above so I have v1.82 along with the 3 .pit file versions.
Is there anything else I should do or need before proceeding?
Thanks in advance for any assistance with my understanding of this.
Currently my phone info reads;
Firmware version: 2.2
Baseband version: I9000NEJP2
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #1
Build number: FROYO.NEJP5
Lol.amazing i was.in the same predicament like u two days bak hahahaha but instead my fne was brand new lol....
Anyway i got gingerbread astock now runnin on me fne so do this as.i.did.it like this
Download the JVQ file of 2.3.4 and then extract it... Use odin to flash ure fone... Im pretty sure on that thread it shows how.to use.odin and flash but here goes
First open odin and go into download mode with ure fne( by switching ure fne off then wait til it vibrates...then preaa.altogether the volume down key ure home key and power key.... Then plug in usb then flash yhe rom like.how.it is.sed on that thread which u founf the firmware on.... Hope this helpa
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Sorry for spelling mistakes lol still gettin used to the virtual keyboard lol
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Nandroid backup is a name of app which you can use for complete ROM backup useful in times of complete crash.
Just be careful when flashing. Normally it shouldn't screw up your phone but you need to be careful and ALWAYS read the Instructions in full. I have seen people ruining their phones just because they never read the what they were supposed to BEFORE starting.
All the best!
Thanks for the info.
I've found this guide now to Nandroid, which says the easiest way to get it onto the phone is to install ClockworkMod Rom Manager from the Android Market. I'd previously been looking for Nandroid in the Market.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nandroid-backup-and-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
Trouble is when auto detecting my model it gives a couple that could relate to my model and I don't know what the difference is...
Galaxy S i9000
Galaxy S i9000 (MTD)
Does anyone know what the significance of the MTD is please?
Use the one without mtd as that is the originak international version....
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Hi
Thanks, I did some googling and came to the same conclusion, I think the MTD has something to with Cyanogen.
Anyways, am stuck at the moment at the next snag now in that I appear to have the more recent version of recovery i.e. the 3e instead of 2e needed.
This guide says I need to flash a custom rooted kernel (a CF-Root one) but my Menu > Settings > About Phone, ‘Build Number’ says ‘FROYO.NEJP5’ and I can't see which is the corresponding CF-Root kernel.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-install-clockworkmod-recovery-on-samsung-galaxy-s-i9000/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
Besides I am still on the original file system also and would prefer to be on ext4 to fix lag.
More rethinking required.
You dont nid root to flash a new firmware such as the jvq gingerbread.... If u flashed that u cn hav both ext4 and root support for ure fne so why dnt u flash ure fne to 2.3.4 first then root then ext 4 it.... Step by step i guess
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Prior to this thread I had read the following advice that before you do anything, you should back up your /efs folder containing not least your IMEI info.
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-s-a...d-19-18-pm-est-apr-08-2011-major-cleanup.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859914&highlight=restore+imei
To do that requires root as I understand and whilst the above suggests that on 2.2 you should use z4root, I actually used super one click which worked and has an unroot option too.
I also wanted to be rooted because I already lost my user apps and data when it was flashed to 2.2 by the service center and concluded that the only decent back up apps all required root.
I wish I had rooted while I had the carrier version of 2.2.1 on my phone and made a Nandroid backup of that so I could return the phone to that state in case of warranty issues. I never foresaw that the service center would flash a non carrier branded type rom onto it.
Although I'm not overly keen on 2.2 or the lag issue, it works and therefore I think the prudent thing to do is do a Nandroid backup of this so I can at least get back to this if something ever goes wrong. However, I think I have read somewhere that Nandroid requires the ext4 file system too, so I think I need a kernel that does this as well as one that has recovery 2e and all for my existing 2.2 rom.
I don't know how already being rooted or that busybox is already installed (think either super one click did that or titanium backup) affects flashing a new kernel?
Since reading some other threads of people who have flashed up to 2.3.x this was prior to it being officially released in the UK and I see some now wanting to get back to 2.2.x so they can update to the official release.
So it might be better to get things to a state where I can upgrade to that via Kies in an internet cafe or something.
Anyways have a bit of a headache now so not doing any more today.
Completely rom'd, kernel'd and flashed out.
Just a quick update as I had to give up on Kies in the end.
However, I did discover, for others like me without a separate broadband connection, enabling the Mobile AP and connecting the phone in Kies mode was possible, whereas the usb tethering is not. This allowed Kies to recognise that an update was available and also downloaded it. I had to use an app from the Market Place called Spoof FW prior to connecting the phone to the laptop which allowed me to choose my carrier so that Kies offered the correct download.
I then had a problem that the phone wouldn't flip modes from Kies to the download mode but instead would hang in the Kies preparing firmware process. I deleted a couple of thumbnail picture files that had long file name extensions and did a factory reset and then kies was able to change the phone into download mode. However, at this point, perhaps because the laptop I was using is old and only has the old usb ports it would then report that it didn't recognise the usb device or crash device manager.
Anyway for now I have given up on the carrier rom option and opted for an Odin flash of JVQ and CF-Root 3.7.
Phone is now a lot faster than Froyo 2.2 and next on the agenda is to use the CF-Root addon for converting to ext4. The only downside I've found so far with JVQ is the usb tethering is flawed, either doesn't recognise that the usb is connected or seems to freeze net comms over the usb service after only a short time. Mobile AP seems to work so I have a pci wireless card coming to upgrade the desktop PC.
Hope the usb tethering gets fixed in the next Android release but hopefully for now I can manage.

Some Pointers Please on Flashing Original VZW MotoDroid?

Okay ... I have the Samsung Droid Charge and I'm quite comfortable flashing ROMS/Kernels/CWM Odin etc.
My wife has my old original Verizon Moto Droid (stock) and it is starting to act up a little. I'm thinking of flashing a ROM onto it to update things and see if it acts any better.
Like I said; I am comfortable using Odin and CWM on my Charge. What's different with the Droid? What will I need to accomplish the tasks? Is there an Original stock ROM available I can revert back to if things don't work out or she doesn't like it?
It looks like there's a Windows based app instead of Odin? I am running Win7-64 bit on my desktop.
Any pointers getting me headed in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
MERRY CHRISTMAS !!
Steve
Edit: Understand this is my wife's phone. I need to know what I am doing before I attempt it .... I screw up her phone and it ain't gonna be a Merry Christmas around the Chopstix household ... ~;-p
You could use superoneclick v 1.7 to root it, you can install cwm recovery on it and flash a rom, I would reccomend project elite for its great stability. If anything ever goes wrong you can sbf back to stock
I just Flashed Cyanogen Mod 7.1.0 on my stock OG droid and it rocks. Some pointers that I couldn't find in the rest of the forums:
Like mentioned above, you have to use superoneclick 1.7 (or revert back to 1.6 if the frk76 -the latest update- has put it self on the phone)
I used "mybackup root" (free in the market) to back up my apps and data (messages, call logs, pictures, and music). Worked great.
I logged into my google account to back up contacts, calendar, etc. Also worked great.
Here is the part that everyone has a problem with: Rom Manager.
The stock ClockworkMod Recovery (2.5.0.1) in Rom Manager does not work for the OG Droid. I was able to get it to work though by going to "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" at the bottom on the Rom Manager screen and flash ClockworkMod Recovery (3.1.0.2).
After that it was smooth sailing. Remember to perform a Nandroid Back up, do a factory reset/wipe data, and what ever else the ROM you are installing suggests you do. I had to do a recovery a couple of times figuring out that SPRecovery won't work for Flashing new ROMS.
Hope it works and Merry Christmas!!!
taptaptouch said:
You could use superoneclick v 1.7 to root it, you can install cwm recovery on it and flash a rom, I would reccomend project elite for its great stability. If anything ever goes wrong you can sbf back to stock
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sbf back to stock ... could you expand on that? I don't know what it is. The Motorolas are obviously quite different than the samsungs when doing this stuff ...
Edit: I am having trouble finding the links for downloading the superoneclick, CWM and the ROM. Odin isn't used on this phone? What will I use to install CWM? Project Elite sounds like the one I would want. Stability is key above advanced tools and eye candy. It's for my wife and it will be used as a phone and messaging only pretty much. Maybe a few pictures. I would want the market and all apps she might want to be still accessible.
sbf back to stock= making a Nandroid backup and recovering it in case there is a problem with your ROM install. Did you do that when you flashed Odin onto your Charge? As long as you have your stock ROM backed up, you can go back to it at any time. This can all be accomplished with CWM.
As far as I can tell, Odin is for Samsung devices only. If this is incorrect, someone please set me straight.
CWM is a utility inside the "ROM Manager" app, which is available in the Market.
Here is the Superoneclick Thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
I'm just getting started in the custom romming thing, so I couldn't recommend a good bare bones ROM. Good luck in your research!
jgoose said:
sbf back to stock= making a Nandroid backup and recovering it in case there is a problem with your ROM install. Did you do that when you flashed Odin onto your Charge? As long as you have your stock ROM backed up, you can go back to it at any time. This can all be accomplished with CWM.
As far as I can tell, Odin is for Samsung devices only. If this is incorrect, someone please set me straight.
CWM is a utility inside the "ROM Manager" app, which is available in the Market.
Here is the Superoneclick Thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
I'm just getting started in the custom romming thing, so I couldn't recommend a good bare bones ROM. Good luck in your research!
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No I haven't used nandroid even though some on Charges do. Odin isn't something you install on your phone. It is a computer based program that you use as an interface between the computer and phone to flash 'tar' files to your phone. ROMS will come in a file format with a .tar.md5 file extension and you use Odin to flash them. There are complete stock 'Odin' ROMS out there that you can use to flash your phone back to stock. This is the fail-safe route I have used when learning to flash that saved me from a few bricked phones. I am leery of flashing her Droid without having the same abilities available to me. A nandroid backup isn't going to do any good if the phone pukes half way through a flash and gets bricked. Or am I incorrect in that statement?
I've seen mention of a windows based app here that I assumed was something akin to Odin. Is there a fail-safe fall back to a stock rom for this phone should you need to recover from a bricked state? I'd hate to flash the wife's phone without knowing going in that I have the ability to recover from a bad flash.
CWM is stand alone on the Charge. You can install it with Odin or other methods such as adb (which I am not familiar with). But getting it through an app is fine too. I would assume there are then zip files available for updating to a more recent version of cwm after a version is on the phone. CWM is also embedded into many ROMs available so that when you flash a ROM via Odin, CWM is on the phone when you boot.
What is the button sequence for entering recovery on the Droid?
Power Key + X on the keyboard.
I assume you have a physical keyboard on this droid.
Don't let these guys scare you off. If you can flash your charge then you should have no problem with an og Droid . I just fixed my sister inlaws the other day . it took me 20 min. Here's a guide anyone could follow . Root Droid 1 - regardless of OS version (driod forums . net ) (I'm not allowed to post the link for some reason) And also I would recommend project elite or cyan 7, both work great.

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