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Given that the Vivid has the following bands (according to Phonescoop):
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LTE 700 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
-Can anyone confirm whether this phone, when unlocked, will work with T-Mobile's 3G network or not; since it has the AWS (1700) band?
It wont work. The HTC Vivid only has WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100 that is what is used for 3G data speeds. T-Mobile requires AWS bands which is 1700 and 2100. On T-Mobile one of those bands is used for Uploading and the other is used for Downloading....you need both in order to be AWS compliant. The fact that it has 2100 does nothing for T-Mobile use. 2100 is used in Europe.
The 1700 band listed is only for LTE. And I think Phonescoop actually missed part of the LTE specifications because I read elsewhere that the HTC Vivid for LTE is 700 and AWS. Meaning that it uses the AWS bands 1700/2100 for LTE only. And you can't use this for T-Mobile AWS 3G. This makes sense if the T-Mobile purchase goes through because AT&T intends to use T-Mobiles current 3G bands which are only AWS 1700/2100 for LTE.
sdaddy said:
Given that the Vivid has the following bands (according to Phonescoop):
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LTE 700 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
-Can anyone confirm whether this phone, when unlocked, will work with T-Mobile's 3G network or not; since it has the AWS (1700) band?
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Perhaps somebody else can confirm this, but my speculation is no. The AWS band in the Vivid is specifically for LTE, I believe, so it wouldn't pick up HSPA on it. It has this mainly so that it's merger proof, I think. AT&T would like to use T-Mobile's AWS band for expanded LTE if the merger goes through.
galfert said:
It wont work. The HTC Vivid only has WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100 that is what is used for 3G data speeds. T-Mobile requires AWS bands which is 1700 and 2100. On T-Mobile one of those bands is used for Uploading and the other is used for Downloading....you need both in order to be AWS compliant. The fact that it has 2100 does nothing for T-Mobile use. 2100 is used in Europe.
The 1700 band listed is only for LTE. And I think Phonescoop actually missed part of the LTE specifications because I read elsewhere that the HTC Vivid for LTE is 700 and AWS. Meaning that it uses the AWS bands 1700/2100 for LTE only. And you can't use this for T-Mobile AWS 3G. This makes sense if the T-Mobile purchase goes through because AT&T intends to use T-Mobiles current 3G bands which are only AWS 1700/2100 for LTE.
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How about T-mobile HSPA+ network will the HTC vivid works?
Can somebody please confirm whether this phone is compatible with T-Mobile 4g Network. I have T-Mobile grandfathered $5 unlimited data. it would be awesome if this phone works! (since none of T-mobile branded phones work with grandfathered data) )
engsrini said:
How about T-mobile HSPA+ network will the HTC vivid works?
Can somebody please confirm whether this phone is compatible with T-Mobile 4g Network. I have T-Mobile grandfathered $5 unlimited data. it would be awesome if this phone works! (since none of T-mobile branded phones work with grandfathered data) )
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TMobile 3G/4G share the same frequencies....so NO...it wont work
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TMobile 3G/4G share the same frequencies....so NO...it wont work
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Yes true, I missed that part of the explanation, thanks.
T-Mobile 3G = WCDMA/UMTS/HSDPA = AWS Band 1700/2100 (needs both frequencies - one uploads, the other downloads)
T-Mobile 4G = HSPA+ = same requirements as 3G
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sorry to resurrect this thread, but hasn't t-mobile started putting out their 1900MHZ spectrum 3G? I have heard and seen many iPhones getting 3g with T-Mobile. This VIVID has the same bands as other phones that would get 3g, since it has a 1900 HSDPA band. Has anyone reported sightings of getting 3g on an HTC Vivid yet?
solidus636 said:
sorry to resurrect this thread, but hasn't t-mobile started putting out their 1900MHZ spectrum 3G? I have heard and seen many iPhones getting 3g with T-Mobile. This VIVID has the same bands as other phones that would get 3g, since it has a 1900 HSDPA band. Has anyone reported sightings of getting 3g on an HTC Vivid yet?
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I saw some OneXL users were reporting 3g speeds on TMobile as well
sdaddy said:
Given that the Vivid has the following bands (according to Phonescoop):
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LTE 700 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
-Can anyone confirm whether this phone, when unlocked, will work with T-Mobile's 3G network or not; since it has the AWS (1700) band?
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HSDPA working here on a HTC Vivid on T-Mobile
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29641878&postcount=12
3G & HSDPA working
Wolf61477 said:
HSDPA working here on a HTC Vivid on T-Mobile
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29641878&postcount=12
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just did multiple speed tests, and i got a range from 7mbps - 10.5 mbps download and 1.5 - 4.5 upload on my vivid that was a paper weight for a while.:laugh:
nice work T-mobile:good:
Pirateghost said:
TMobile 3G/4G share the same frequencies....so NO...it wont work
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what about tmobile LTE. sorry for reviving, just curious
XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
what about tmobile LTE. sorry for reviving, just curious
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Pretty are still a no go..I believe only there 3g networks were changed..could he wrong though...
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sdaddy said:
Given that the Vivid has the following bands (according to Phonescoop):
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LTE 700 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
-Can anyone confirm whether this phone, when unlocked, will work with T-Mobile's 3G network or not; since it has the AWS (1700) band?
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In case you still need help, here is what I suggest:
For the unlock, use unlockusa.com to get your code. They're the fastest and most reliable on the market.
For the internet, use the following settings for your APN (Credits: http://htcsource.com/2012/08/how-to-sim-unlock-the-htc-vivid-and-add-t-mobiles-access-point/) :
Name: T-Mobile.com
APN: fast.t-mobile.com
Proxy: Not Set
Port: Not Set
Username: Not Set
Password: Not Set
Server: wap.voicestream.com
MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS proxy: 261.155.165.50
MMS port: Not Set
MMS protocol: WAP 2.0
MCC:310
MNC: 260
Authentication type; Not Set
APN type: default
APN enable/disable: Checked
Bearer:Unspecified
Enjoy your cool phone !
I hope that helps. It worked for me, as I was having the same issue.
Just curious (reviving the thread), I noticed that T-mobile's GSM-based network has 1700MHz AWS listed for their 4G speeds, and the radio interface is LTE. The Vivid has 700 and 1700/2100 MHz listed for the LTE. Both are listed to work on band 4. Would this not theoretically allow the vivid to attain 4G speeds on T-mobile?
Also, T-mobile has 850 [roaming], 1700, and 1900 MHz on the UMTS interface for 3G generation. The vivid can connect to 850[roaming!] and 1900 MHz, although it does not specify the band. So maybe 3G works with T-mobile?
And we all know the 2G spectrum works too, but just for consistency:
T-mobile 2G: 850MHz (band 5) GSM [roaming], 1900MHz (band 2) GSM
Vivid: 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 1900MHz GSM
I would love either verification or reasons why this doesn't quite work!
projectisaac said:
Just curious (reviving the thread), I noticed that T-mobile's GSM-based network has 1700MHz AWS listed for their 4G speeds, and the radio interface is LTE. The Vivid has 700 and 1700/2100 MHz listed for the LTE. Both are listed to work on band 4. Would this not theoretically allow the vivid to attain 4G speeds on T-mobile?
Also, T-mobile has 850 [roaming], 1700, and 1900 MHz on the UMTS interface for 3G generation. The vivid can connect to 850[roaming!] and 1900 MHz, although it does not specify the band. So maybe 3G works with T-mobile?
And we all know the 2G spectrum works too, but just for consistency:
T-mobile 2G: 850MHz (band 5) GSM [roaming], 1900MHz (band 2) GSM
Vivid: 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 1900MHz GSM
I would love either verification or reasons why this doesn't quite work!
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Hello everyone and hello there.
Have a HTC VIVID on Albinoman's CM11 (1/12 build) using Simple Mobile (a MVNO of T-Mobile).
Using the APN already on the SIM/ROM I DO NOT get the 4G LTE.
Fortunately I get 4G, H, 3G, and E for the phone.
So LTE is still a no-go with T-Mobile with the HTC Vivid unfortunately (for now).
Wdenton said:
Hello everyone and hello there.
Have a HTC VIVID on Albinoman's CM11 (1/12 build) using Simple Mobile (a MVNO of T-Mobile).
Using the APN already on the SIM/ROM I DO NOT get the 4G LTE.
Fortunately I get 4G, H, 3G, and E for the phone.
So LTE is still a no-go with T-Mobile with the HTC Vivid unfortunately (for now).
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I don't think that will work for a long time... I don't think at&t uses the same LTE... Uhhh... Channel?
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rignfool said:
I don't think that will work for a long time... I don't think at&t uses the same LTE... Uhhh... Channel?
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk
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Hopefully it doesn't take long is what I meant, was half asleep when I posted the reply.
rignfool said:
I don't think that will work for a long time... I don't think at&t uses the same LTE... Uhhh... Channel?
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk
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I'm looking at the wikipedia pages for at&t and t-mobile:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility
and in the radio frequency summary of at&t, I can see 1700/2100 MHz AWS on band 4 for 4G with LTE protocol, and T-mobile has 1700MHz AWS on band 4 for 4G LTE as well, but that's "building out", which means that band isn't available everywhere (I think i recall hearing that T-mobile was starting to change their frequencies around 2013).Also, I'm not certain if T-mobile allows the use of their 4G LTE on their SIM card no-contract plans.
Here's a List of the similar bands for T-mobile and at&t:
at&t: 2G, 1900MHz [band not listed], GSM/GPRS/EDGE
t-mobile: 2G, 1900MHz [2], GSM/GPRS/EDGE
at&t: 3G, 1900MHz PCS [2], UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s
t-mobile: 3G, 1900MHz PCS [2], UMTS/HSPA+ 42Mbit/s
at&t: 3G, 850MHz CLR [5], UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s
t-mobile: 3G, 850MHz CLR [5], UMTS/HSPA+ -this is from the failed acquisition of T-mobile by at&t, will last for 7 years
-interesting to note that T-mobile "Has marketed 3G HSPA+ as "4G" since 2010" (from the T-mobile wiki entry on the 1700MHz band notes)
at&t: 4G, 1700 MHz AWS [4], LTE
T-mobile: 4G, 1700/2100 MHz AWS [4], LTE
So I'm wondering if maybe the "4G" you get is T-mobile's 3G HSPA+ 42Mb/s? Wanna share your APN settings if you're getting all that good stuff already?
Also, what's your plan on Simple Mobile, and how much is it costing?
projectisaac said:
I'm looking at the wikipedia pages for at&t and t-mobile:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility
and in the radio frequency summary of at&t, I can see 1700/2100 MHz AWS on band 4 for 4G with LTE protocol, and T-mobile has 1700MHz AWS on band 4 for 4G LTE as well, but that's "building out", which means that band isn't available everywhere (I think i recall hearing that T-mobile was starting to change their frequencies around 2013).Also, I'm not certain if T-mobile allows the use of their 4G LTE on their SIM card no-contract plans.
Here's a List of the similar bands for T-mobile and at&t:
at&t: 2G, 1900MHz [band not listed], GSM/GPRS/EDGE
t-mobile: 2G, 1900MHz [2], GSM/GPRS/EDGE
at&t: 3G, 1900MHz PCS [2], UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s
t-mobile: 3G, 1900MHz PCS [2], UMTS/HSPA+ 42Mbit/s
at&t: 3G, 850MHz CLR [5], UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s
t-mobile: 3G, 850MHz CLR [5], UMTS/HSPA+ -this is from the failed acquisition of T-mobile by at&t, will last for 7 years
-interesting to note that T-mobile "Has marketed 3G HSPA+ as "4G" since 2010" (from the T-mobile wiki entry on the 1700MHz band notes)
at&t: 4G, 1700 MHz AWS [4], LTE
T-mobile: 4G, 1700/2100 MHz AWS [4], LTE
So I'm wondering if maybe the "4G" you get is T-mobile's 3G HSPA+ 42Mb/s? Wanna share your APN settings if you're getting all that good stuff already?
Also, what's your plan on Simple Mobile, and how much is it costing?
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That. That's what I meant. APN settings came on the phone's SIM:
Enter name: Simple
APN: simple
Proxy:
Port:
Username:
Password:
Server:
MMSC: http://smpl.mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS Proxy:
MMS Port:
MCC: 310
MNC: 260
Authentication type:
APN type: default,supl,mms
APN Protocol: IPv4
APN Roaming Protocol: IPv4
Bearer: Unspecified
MVNO Type: None.
Currently have Unlimited Talk, Text, 4g Data (up to 3 GB per month, then down to 3G speeds) for $50.
Thanks! And that's one helluva plan. I'm thinking I might go and do that if the $30/mo plan shows I have good coverage up here in the Northlands. A pity you're not getting the true 4G LTE service though, but I suppose T-mobile's 4G is pretty freakin' fast (HSPA+ 42Mb/s is pretty nice). Thanks for sharing the APN!
Does it work with 4g or even 3g that well? I saw that the Note and Tmobile both use 2100MHz for their frequency, but I wanted to see if someone here on Tmobile USA could actually confirm that it was working with fast data speeds. This will be a deciding factor on me purchasing this phone, which I am planning on so far.
The note is missing the 1700 MHz to work on tmobile USA. Tmobile USA needs 1700 and 2100. So 2g only only on tmobile USA.
Sent from my note
copualt3 said:
The note is missing the 1700 MHz to work on tmobile USA. Tmobile USA needs 1700 and 2100. So 2g only only on tmobile USA.
Sent from my note
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Thanks for the reply. I was under the impression that it only needed one of the two frequencies in order to work.
The Galaxy Note will work with voice and 2G data(edge) But not 3G or 4G Data.
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Thanks for the reply. I was under the impression that it only needed one of the two frequencies in order to work.
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It needs both.
Regards,
Dave
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I make Note work on high speed data and phone
I have the Galaxy Note. You will not get any data on the Note if you put it on T-mobile. HOWEVER, I have a wifi at my home office and so there I get both. So, I took my Galaxy s 4g and put it on a data plan with t-mobile and since it's been rooted, get the hot spot feature and that sends the data to the Note at very high speeds. I used the inexpensive resellers so the price is more than $50 for both but it's a lot less than paying for T-mobile direct for a sim card for the Note and a hot spot device and data service for hot spot device.
Once you've done this you can wifi the data over or I believe even set up the bluetooth to transfer the data at high speeds. Before that, I got NO data, not even edge. So, this is a life saver and I pay about $70 for all, including taxes, ect for unlimited everything. I don't think you'll like the Note with only Edge or no data at all since it does so many things, then you might as well just get a dial phone without the high speed data.
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All questions belong in the Q&A Section please!
I only get edge eventhough i pay 4g. .. That sucks
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Only the at&t version can be hacked to work on t-mobile 4g network. Best you can expect with international version is edge
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As others have said, the international note works on T-Mobile's edge only.
I didn't need to change any apn settings when I got it. Just put in my T-Mobile sim card and edge worked out of the box. Though I keep experiencing intermittent signal drops until I flashed the latest LC1 firmware. I'm very happy with it now.
I get anywhere between nonexistent (hilly suburbs) to 206 kbps down and 118 kbps up in the Seattle - Tacoma area.
Wayygun said:
I get anywhere between nonexistent (hilly suburbs) to 206 kbps down and 118 kbps up in the Seattle - Tacoma area.
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Funny, that's faster then what I've getting on Sprint's 3G for the past year.
if you bought yours on 1saleaday that att work around wont work and doesnt let the note read your sim card. I had to flash to stock N7000XXLA4_N7000OXALA_DBT just to get cell coverage.
EDIT: figured out how to get it to work. Just follow the steps and you will have data
Go to Settings, Wireless & networks, Mobile Networks, Access Point Names (choose MENU on bottom of screen and then NEWAPN. Fill in the spaces as follows if your phone ask for these, some it may not ask for.
* Name: T-Mobile
* APN: epc.tmobile.com
* Proxy: <Leave Blank>
* Port: <Leave Blank> (if does not work, go back and put 80 for the port number, I put 80 in my phone)
* Username: <Leave Blank>
* Password: <Leave Blank>
* Server: <Leave Blank>
* MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
* MMS proxy: <Leave Blank>
* MMS Port: <Leave Blank>
* MCC: 310
* MNC:260
* APN type: internet + MMS
* Authentication Type: None
I bought my Galaxy Note in Korea and brought to Canada to use it here...
My provider is Rogers and successfully connected to its network but the speed is very very slow (40KB/S [down/up] it is even slower than 56K dial-up modem).
apn is correctly setup as:
Name: Rogers Internet
APN: rogers-core-appl1.apn
MMSC: http://mms.gprs.rogers.com
MMS proxy: 10.128.1.169
MMS port: 80
MCC: 302
MNC: 720
APN type: internet + mms
otherwise, any other fields are showing as <not set> OR None
Name: Rogers Tethering
APN: isp.apn
MCC: 302
MNC: 720
APN type: dun
otherwise, any other fields are showing as <not set> OR None
ALSO THERE IS THE SIMILAR THREAD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10447140&postcount=1524
BUT DIDN'T HELP AT ALL.. (I have tried most combination but didn't work)
It takes 1-3 minutes to load one website.....
If anyone knows how to fix this I will call you god!!
I'm not entirely sure whether or not Rogers supports fast dormancy on their network, but it's a feature which is enabled on the Note by default. Down here in the states, people have been seeing significant network performance improvements by disabling this feature, as AT&T does not support it anyway.
You can disable fast dormancy by entering *#*#9900#*#* from your dialer and make sure the fast dormancy option is set to "Disabled"
Let me know if that works!
P.S. What type of connection are you picking up when you're getting those speeds btw? EDGE (E), UMTS (3G), HSPA+ (H, or H+)?
Thanks Jade but when I punched in *#*#9900#*#* it didn't do anything.. later I found that it is *#9900# for Galaxy note..
Once I got into this Sysdump menu I couldn't see fast dormancy option.. please see the screen shot.
I don't know where this fast dormancy menu is hidden for Galaxy note...
And you may also find from the screen shot it says "G" for the data signal..
Your sysdump seems weird... *#*#9900#*#* has worked for everyone else here that I've recommended about the fast dormancy issue.
The other thing is that the "G" in your signal indicates that you're only connecting at GPRS speed, which is in fact slower than dial-up. Perhaps there's a different APN for 3G/HSPA?
Another thought just came to mind as well... You said you got your Note from Korea right? Is there a Qualcomm sticker anywhere on your device? From what I understand, the Note available in Korea is a totally different device from a hardware perspective. It uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset instead of Samsung's own Exynos for the LTE functionality. It may even be possible that the Korean version doesn't even support 3G frequencies outside what's used over there... That being the case, ouch dude, that sucks...
I've included a pic from my device for what the menu should look like after inputting *#*#9900#*#*
P.S. Just realized that you made no mention of Korea, so I have no idea where that came from lol!
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Your sysdump seems weird... *#*#9900#*#* has worked for everyone else here that I've recommended about the fast dormancy issue.
The other thing is that the "G" in your signal indicates that you're only connecting at GPRS speed, which is in fact slower than dial-up. Perhaps there's a different APN for 3G/HSPA?
Another thought just came to mind as well... You said you got your Note from Korea right? Is there a Qualcomm sticker anywhere on your device? From what I understand, the Note available in Korea is a totally different device from a hardware perspective. It uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset instead of Samsung's own Exynos for the LTE functionality. It may even be possible that the Korean version doesn't even support 3G frequencies outside what's used over there... That being the case, ouch dude, that sucks...
I've included a pic from my device for what the menu should look like after inputting *#*#9900#*#*
P.S. Just realized that you made no mention of Korea, so I have no idea where that came from lol!
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He says in the first line of his post that he bought it in Korea. I think you may be right - the Korean version is the LTE/Snapdragon version. It may not be quad-band UMTS/HSPA capable.
This story seems to imply that the Korean version does not have all international 3G bands:
http://asia.cnet.com/blogs/lte-samsung-galaxy-note-isnt-welcome-in-korea-62212571.htm
Edit: reading the story again, it seems to say that 3G is locked out in the firmware on the Korean Note.
I just purchased one in London and the fast dormancy is disabled by default; will be using on ROGERS at YVR before I move to Calgary on the 2nd January. I will post if I get the "normal" speeds.
Update: works great on ROGERS
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Is'nt the 10.128.1."69" not "169"?
Thank you all for the kind responses
I have found what the problem is... Korean Galaxy note supports WCDMA, GSM, and LTE
Unfortunately there is no WCDMA carrier in Canada so I had to go with Rogers.
Korean Galaxy note does supports GSM but preset to use only 900Mhz, 1800Mhz, and 1900Mhz. Rogers uses 850Mhz (for 3G) and 1900Mhz (for 2G)... Since my Note does not have 850Mhz option it automatically uses 1900Mhz which is 2G frequency this was why I can only have 40kbps speed for the data..
I could go with LTE but Rogers uses 700Mhz frequency and my device is set to 1800Mhz for LTE (because Korean carrier uses 1800Mhz for LTE)
My only hope is to find out how to change (if there is any way) this frequency setting softwarecally(not even a word but hope you understand what I mean) say... 900Mhz to 850Mhz without any hardware change
Does anyone know how to do that??
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skyhk05 said:
Thank you all for the kind responses
I have found what the problem is... Korean Galaxy note supports WCDMA, GSM, and LTE
Unfortunately there is no WCDMA carrier in Canada so I had to go with Rogers.
Korean Galaxy note does supports GSM but preset to use only 900Mhz, 1800Mhz, and 1900Mhz. Rogers uses 850Mhz (for 3G) and 1900Mhz (for 2G)... Since my Note does not have 850Mhz option it automatically uses 1900Mhz which is 2G frequency this was why I can only have 40kbps speed for the data..
I could go with LTE but Rogers uses 700Mhz frequency and my device is set to 1800Mhz for LTE (because Korean carrier uses 1800Mhz for LTE)
My only hope is to find out how to change (if there is any way) this frequency setting softwarecally(not even a word but hope you understand what I mean) say... 900Mhz to 850Mhz without any hardware change
Does anyone know how to do that??
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Suggestion: Get rid of the Korean/LTE Note. Buy the international/HSPA+ Note instead. Enjoy!
Sorry if that seems curt, but honestly, the problem you are trying to fix here with the LTE Note is more trouble than it's worth, especially when the problem is already solved in the other version of the device. No offence, but you really ought to buy equipment which is most compatible for the area(s) you plan to spend most of your time. So, if you spend the majority of your time in Korea, then I guess stick with what you've got, and just use WiFi (when you can) while in Canada. However, if you just picked up this device while you were visiting Korea or something, and Canada is your home country, then yeah, I'd get rid of that Korean LTE version quicker than a hot potato. Plus the international Note should work just fine back in Korea anyway, albeit minus LTE, but who cares? As far as I know, there's no unlimited data for LTE in Korea anyway, so what's the point in having all that extra speed when all it really means is that you're only going to crash into a wall that much faster?
Good luck!
no wcdma carrier in Canada?
I thought those new mobile companies used wcdma. Wind mobile and mobilicity - they should be able to work with the korean note, shouldn't they?
does the korean note have wcdma in 1700 and 2100 bands? that's what Wind uses.
I recently acquired a Sony Xperia V (LT25i) that I am presently using on AT&T's prepaid mobile service in north Las Vegas, NV.
Tests conducted on stock (unrooted) Android 4.0.4 (Ice Cream Sandwich). Build number is stock 9.0.D.0.484.
Signal strength during tests was roughly -75dBm 21asu.
Mobile network type is listed as HSPA (with the status bar indicator occasionally displaying an H+ signal for a few seconds).
APN configured to wap.cingular (AT&T's GoPhone and MediaNet mobile web service).
Servers pinged were Tijuana and Las Vegas.
The attached pictures show internet connection tests using the SpeedTest android app. The first, showing no download speeds, is misleading because I do have data, though apparently the SpeedTest app doesn't like the proxy being set to wireless.cingular.com. The second shows my speeds after removing the proxy setting. Though it seems as though my actual data speeds are the same with and without the proxy. I'll be all right without it, I think.
Either the phone or my SIM card were not capable of picking up AT&T's LTE service, regardless of my service plan. I also don't know whether AT&T uses Band 17 (700 MHz) or Band 4 (AWS) in Las Vegas for LTE.
The Xperia V supports LTE bands 1, 3, 5, 7, and 20. None of which are currently deployed throughout the United States. I've theorized over at howardforums that a device that supports bands 1 and 3 (like the LT25i or the CDMA A1429) would be able to connect to Band 4, but I have no experience in this matter.
If anyone else is using this phone in the United States (especially with LTE service) I'd love to hear from you!
How's your APN looks like?
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Is it possible to flash a LT25a firmware on a LT25i device, if so you have no more troubles I think?
If the phone can pick up ATT LTE, which I doubt, you still need a compatible sim card and apn settings.
Also, the ping in those tests are really high, even for the cingular apn.
Let me post external links please, already!
mrdommike said:
If the phone can pick up ATT LTE, which I doubt, you still need a compatible sim card and apn settings.
Also, the ping in those tests are really high, even for the cingular apn.
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Correct, mrdommike, the apn settings for AT&T's LTE are different than the settings used for their prepaid service. AT&T does not presently support LTE on their prepaid plans.
Also, I agree, that the ping seems rather high. (Say, 3 to 5 times as high as it should be.) Not sure what to do about that, though. Maybe part of the reason is because the phone can't pick up AT&T's 1900 Mhz 3G band, and can only use the 850 Mhz 3G band in the U.S?
The apn settings are the default cingular.wap. I'll post them here:
APN: wap.cingular
Proxy: NOT SET (Ok, so this one's not default, as I mentioned in my original post. I had roughly the same ping with and without the proxy, however.)
Port: 80
Server: Not Set
MMSC: [Ok this is annoying] Hotel-Tango-Tango-Papa-COLON-SLASH-SLASH-Mike-Mike-Sierra-Charlie-DOT-Charlie-India-November-Golf-Uniform-Lima-Alpha-Romeo-DOT-Charlie-Oscar-Mike
MMS proxy 66.209.11.32
MMS port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
Authentication type: Not Set
APN type: Not Set
APN protocol: IPv4
APN roaming protocol: IPv4
APN enabled
Bearer: Unspecified
datagubben said:
Is it possible to flash a LT25a firmware on a LT25i device, if so you have no more troubles I think?
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Also, datagubben, the Sony Xperia V did not garner a stateside release. There is no AT&T-specific LT25a model, or any other model designed for primary use in the U.S.
That said, though it's still fresh, I have actually been quite pleased with the device's reception and service here in Las Vegas. There was a bit of a kerfuffle during New Year's Eve, but I never lost signal, and I imagine the calls and texts that went through so late were due to the excessive strain on the cellular networks. It remains to be seen how great the service will be at its main base of operation in San Jose.
Over here in the greater NYC and CT area, my V picks up HDSP+ signal pretty well too. Get downstream speeds up to 7mbps. I'm on the GoPhone plan as well, using the APN settings as described above.
LTE will definitely not work on the V, it doesn't support any LTE band used in the US.
gftgy said:
Correct, mrdommike, the apn settings for AT&T's LTE are different than the settings used for their prepaid service. AT&T does not presently support LTE on their prepaid plans.
Also, I agree, that the ping seems rather high. (Say, 3 to 5 times as high as it should be.) Not sure what to do about that, though. Maybe part of the reason is because the phone can't pick up AT&T's 1900 Mhz 3G band, and can only use the 850 Mhz 3G band in the U.S?
The apn settings are the default cingular.wap. I'll post them here:
APN: wap.cingular
Proxy: NOT SET (Ok, so this one's not default, as I mentioned in my original post. I had roughly the same ping with and without the proxy, however.)
Port: 80
Server: Not Set
MMSC: [Ok this is annoying] Hotel-Tango-Tango-Papa-COLON-SLASH-SLASH-Mike-Mike-Sierra-Charlie-DOT-Charlie-India-November-Golf-Uniform-Lima-Alpha-Romeo-DOT-Charlie-Oscar-Mike
MMS proxy 66.209.11.32
MMS port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
Authentication type: Not Set
APN type: Not Set
APN protocol: IPv4
APN roaming protocol: IPv4
APN enabled
Bearer: Unspecified
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Hey gftgy after looking at your apn, I think you should delete port 80 off the apn settings below the proxy setting. I have an unlocked arc s also with the cingular apn and I'm getting around 150-180ms ping. The only difference between yours and my settting is that port 80.
mrdommike said:
Hey gftgy after looking at your apn, I think you should delete port 80 off the apn settings below the proxy setting. I have an unlocked arc s also with the cingular apn and I'm getting around 150-180ms ping. The only difference between yours and my settting is that port 80.
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I plan on buying the Xperia V too. Can the users in the U.S verify if the V will pick up anything better than 2g service? I need it to at least be on 3g.
Thanks
Lusterboi said:
I plan on buying the Xperia V too. Can the users in the U.S verify if the V will pick up anything better than 2g service? I need it to at least be on 3g.
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Quoting the white paper available from http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-v/specifications/ for free and without registration:
UMTS HSPA+: 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 2100 (Band I)
GSM EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE: Band I, Band III, Band V, Band VII and Band XX
Contact your carrier for the frequencies they use.
AT&T, to my knowledge, runs 3G on 850/1900 MHz bands, where 850 is mostly used in rural areas and is also usually congested. AT&T's LTE network runs on 700 and 1700 MHz bands.
T-Mobile's 3G network uses 1700 and (in some places; a nationwide switch to this frequency is ongoing) 1900 MHz bands. Their LTE network uses 1700 MHz AWS band, replacing their old 1700 MHz 3G service.
Xperia V does not support 1700 and 1900 MHz bands for 3G.
Xperia V does not support 700 and 1700 MHz bands for LTE.
As such, you will probably be able to use it on AT&T's 850 MHz 3G network but the experience will leave a lot to be desired.
6 mb I never see it in my country
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Gasai Yuno said:
Quoting the white paper available from http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-v/specifications/ for free and without registration:
UMTS HSPA+: 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 2100 (Band I)
GSM EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE: Band I, Band III, Band V, Band VII and Band XX
Contact your carrier for the frequencies they use.
AT&T, to my knowledge, runs 3G on 850/1900 MHz bands, where 850 is mostly used in rural areas and is also usually congested. AT&T's LTE network runs on 700 and 1700 MHz bands.
T-Mobile's 3G network uses 1700 and (in some places; a nationwide switch to this frequency is ongoing) 1900 MHz bands. Their LTE network uses 1700 MHz AWS band, replacing their old 1700 MHz 3G service.
Xperia V does not support 1700 and 1900 MHz bands for 3G.
Xperia V does not support 700 and 1700 MHz bands for LTE.
As such, you will probably be able to use it on AT&T's 850 MHz 3G network but the experience will leave a lot to be desired.
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Yup. That's the same situation as my Xperia Z (C6603) - the C6603 works reasonably well in areas with solid 850 coverage, but there are places where I know that other devices can get HSPA+ service and I've dropped to EDGE.
I unlocked my xperia Z c6606 from T-mobile and I am trying to pick up LTE on at&t network...I am using the following APN settings:
Name: att
APN: pta
MMSC: (I'm new and I cannot post a link...)
MMS proxy: proxy.mobile.att.net
MMS port:80
MCC:310
MNC:410
APN type:default,fota,mas,supl,hipri,mms
APN prtocal:IPv4/IPv4
Bearer: none
But right now I can only get hspa+ but not LTE...I wiki'ed a little and it seems that Tmobile's LTE is band 4 and at&t has both band 4 and 17 LTE. Does this mean theoretically I should be able to get LTE with this phone (on Sony website it says that this phone has LTE band 4 only) on att?
Please help...Thanks!!
sasha_wine said:
I unlocked my xperia Z c6606 from T-mobile and I am trying to pick up LTE on at&t network...I am using the following APN settings:
Name: att
APN: pta
MMSC: (I'm new and I cannot post a link...)
MMS proxy: proxy.mobile.att.net
MMS port:80
MCC:310
MNC:410
APN type:default,fota,mas,supl,hipri,mms
APN prtocal:IPv4/IPv4
Bearer: none
But right now I can only get hspa+ but not LTE...I wiki'ed a little and it seems that Tmobile's LTE is band 4 and at&t has both band 4 and 17 LTE. Does this mean theoretically I should be able to get LTE with this phone (on Sony website it says that this phone has LTE band 4 only) on att?
Please help...Thanks!!
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Please help please?
Theoretically tou should have a lte dataplan that should help
Verstuurd vanaf mijn C6603 met Tapatalk
demon2112 said:
Theoretically tou should have a lte dataplan that should help
Verstuurd vanaf mijn C6603 met Tapatalk
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My do have lte data plan...that's why I think it's the problem of the settings...
Data roaming is on?
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demon2112 said:
Data roaming is on?
Verstuurd vanaf mijn C6603 met Tapatalk
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Yes data roaming on...and network mode set to "LTE(preferred)/WCDMA/GSM"...My friend who lives right next to my apartment has the same plan and has been using LTE on his iphone...so it should not be the problem of coverage or things like that....
Depending on the area and the ROM seeing HSPA+ is your 4G/LTE. On TMoble with my C6606 and a custom ROM I would see HSPA+ instead of 4G like the phone says on the stock ROM. To my knowledge the stock ROM does not say LTE but only 4G up by the battery info.
How are your speeds? I wouldnt rely on the little label telling you if you have LTE connected or not.
in settings>about phone>ststus
it'll tell you if you are connected to lte or not.
att mostly uses band 17 for lte, in some places it uses band 4. so if you are luck you will get lte, mostlikely not.
deerhurst said:
Depending on the area and the ROM seeing HSPA+ is your 4G/LTE. On TMoble with my C6606 and a custom ROM I would see HSPA+ instead of 4G like the phone says on the stock ROM. To my knowledge the stock ROM does not say LTE but only 4G up by the battery info.
How are your speeds? I wouldnt rely on the little label telling you if you have LTE connected or not.
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When I was using T-mobile service on this phone, the download speed was almost 30 Mbps, now it's like ~3 Mbps...even HSPA+ should be at least >5 Mbps?
ooohhaaahh said:
in settings>about phone>ststus
it'll tell you if you are connected to lte or not.
att mostly uses band 17 for lte, in some places it uses band 4. so if you are luck you will get lte, mostlikely not.
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the status says HSPA+....T_T
help!
Anybody figured this out? I have a C6606 model, and this should work with LTE. Unlocked from T-mobile. Network shows only HSPA+ not LTE. Any suggestion?
Anybody is on this website? Nobody answers anymore...
Did anyone ever figure out how to get lte to work?