Is the XTC thing is working to re-lock the bootloader by disabling the security (S-off) ?
No, never.
jgemaster said:
Is the XTC thing is working to re-lock the bootloader by disabling the security (S-off) ?
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Once you unlock the bootloader, it is not possible for you to lock it again. HTC has the ability to do it somehow, but no one in the community has been able to get their hands on it or reverse engineer it.
So, once it is unlocked, it will stay unlocked.
If you can get S-OFF by XTC Clip - yes, "fastboot oem lock" will work.
Guess I was out of the unlocking vs relocking game too long. I didn't even know about XTC Clip.
It's a HW device that should supposedly work on most/all HTC phones, allowing security flag modifications / CID modifications / etc through HW.
I didn't test it, but for example, for HTC Wildfire it's the only way to get S-OFF and root.
Does this work with the current hboot? The only details I could find only mention the 33 hboot for the Passion and not the 35, but there's no way to tell if the information is current... :/
http://forums.phone-tools.cn/showth...ne-HBOOT-35.0017-turn-off-with-xtc-clip/page2
Looks like the support for 0.35 isn't complete.
I've almost bought such a device, since I got a locked Desire S at a bargain price and I thought to root+unlock it using this device, but right at that point Alpharev and Unrevoked produced Revolution, which is capable of S-OFFing its bootloader, and now I hope to find a way to get the SuperCID myself somehow.
Looks like a useful tool, especially since I've had 4 HTC devices in my house so far this year...
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Hello,
There is guy who does s-off. I got my Salsa s-off from the
below person. This guy seems to be well knowledgeable. He also installs custom Rom's if u want.
Name - GURURAJ
No4, First Floor, D.V.G.ROAD
Near Gandhi Bazaar circle,
BASAVAVAGUDI, BANGALORE-4
9886114922, 9036441146
e-mail: [email protected]
yahoo: [email protected]
sakisuren said:
Hello,
There is guy who does s-off. I got my Salsa s-off from the
below person. This guy seems to be well knowledgeable. He also installs custom Rom's if u want.
Name - GURURAJ
No4, First Floor, D.V.G.ROAD
Near Gandhi Bazaar circle,
BASAVAVAGUDI, BANGALORE-4
9886114922, 9036441146
e-mail: [email protected]
yahoo: [email protected]
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but...dont install roms which dont exist....currently theres 2/3 roms...not much difference in them either...i got 3 of them, working on getting more...get s-off by all means, but hang around for more roms
How much does he charge to only unlock it?
unlock you can do of our own using htcdev.com.
Follow this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1465780 it will help u to unlock bootloader, flash cwm5 and increase ur internal memory
HTC has released a utility to unlock bootloader of your HTC device. If you get that, you can root your phone. No need to get a S-OFF. My salsa is S-ON yet rooted.
I am not sure what benifits S-off will offer over htc unlock bootloader. May be BigBearEvo can throw some light on it.
If you just want to root, htc unlock bootloader works fine.
monty80 said:
HTC has released a utility to unlock bootloader of your HTC device. If you get that, you can root your phone. No need to get a S-OFF. My salsa is S-ON yet rooted.
I am not sure what benifits S-off will offer over htc unlock bootloader. May be BigBearEvo can throw some light on it.
If you just want to root, htc unlock bootloader works fine.
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HTC unlocking is same as u s-off...
more beneficial than normally unlocking using xtc clip.
in boot loader menu it shows as S-ON, but functions as S-OFF.
just check whether it shows "unlocked" in boot loader menu.
HTC unlocking is complete solution for root access.
shivunaikc said:
HTC unlocking is same as u s-off...
more beneficial than normally unlocking using xtc clip.
in boot loader menu it shows as S-ON, but functions as S-OFF.
just check whether it shows "unlocked" in boot loader menu.
HTC unlocking is complete solution for root access.
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Nope, I dont think HTCDEV Unlock bootloader will give you network unlock and radio unlock. If you get xtc-clip s-off it will let you change radio and network lock as well. I have never tried though.
go here....new added hboot updates for the s-off user only!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467060
Hello,
I have the ICS update, which gave me the 2.02.0002 hboot, and so taking away the opportunity to gain S-OFF.
There's probably a lot of others having this problem.
I know I could use the HTCDEV.COM method, but since it still has warranty for 1 year, i'd rather not.
Currently there's no other ways I believe, but is there a chance the future will bring it?
Hope springs eternal! I sure hope there are devs hard at work trying to prise the chinks in the HTC boot lockdown codes. Htcdev unlock is a lame-ass way to regain control over your phone.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S &/or Xperia Mini ST15i
fakecaker said:
Hello,
I have the ICS update, which gave me the 2.02.0002 hboot, and so taking away the opportunity to gain S-OFF.
There's probably a lot of others having this problem.
I know I could use the HTCDEV.COM method, but since it still has warranty for 1 year, i'd rather not.
Currently there's no other ways I believe, but is there a chance the future will bring it?
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For future help although I know this post is old
Hboot was 2.00.0000
and I make s-off with xtc clip selecting hboot 1.09.XXXX successfully.
You can try this tool at your own risk.
thanks
br
nsnobel2 said:
For future help although I know this post is old
Hboot was 2.00.0000
and I make s-off with xtc clip selecting hboot 1.09.XXXX successfully.
You can try this tool at your own risk.
thanks
br
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Xtc clip definitely void warranty.. Best of luck
sent from my jellybean device
Hello,
before you get angry on me i read all of the guids but im a little bit confused and because my device isnt at&t or spirnt im afraid that the guides i read arent the right one for me
Ok, so my device is the htc one 801e, i bought it from the official Importer of htc in my country (i dont have any offical htc in my country, so this is the htc for me. they also have their own CID K_18)
my hboot version is 1.54, my android version came out of the box as 4.2.2 and my software version is 2.24.401.1. (the device is S-ON)
I really want to root my device and install new roms (im not a total noob, just in htc :silly but i didnt understand if their is a way to me (since i understand that there isn't way to do s-off with 1.54 hboot) to root my device without my warranty to get hurt (i pay higer price just to have the offical warranty of htc in my country)
so please help me understand what can i do, withot losing my warranty.
THANKES FOR EVERYONE WHO HELP! :laugh::laugh:
No, you will have the status as relocked then.... Warranty would be void.... S off not possible as you know it...
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so there isnt any soultuion for right now?
and if there would be an s-off, i can root my device and then return it to the beginning and the warranty wouldn't be void?
just one more thing, an s-off that i can use with my device is somthing that someone working on that? or that is just a dream?
thankes for the help so far
The procedure to s-off is an exploit. It was patched in the new hboot. The devs are trying to find a way to s-off 1.54, but no one knows when they'll find it, if they ever do. Its not something as simple as say, unlocking a bootloader.
You can still root, and flash custom Roms, but you have to unlock the bootloader via HTCDev. Afterwards your bootloader will have a tampered flag, that can not be removed without s-off. It does not instantly void your warranty, but HTC could deny any warranty claims they deem software related.
So, unlock and risk losing your warranty.
Or, wait patiently for the wonderful devs to cook up a new exploit.
AT&T HTC One
Baadnewz's InsertCoin 3.0-14
Flar2's Bulletproof 4.3
Thanks a lot!
Now i finally understand the whole s-off idea, but for now i think i will wait a few months and let the devs to ther magic job (hopefully htc won't release a new hboot, although i understand so far that if i first do an s-off and then upgrade my hboot, i will stil have s -off? )
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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Its not important at all
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With S-off you can flash everything you want on your phone . Downgrade is a most comun reason.
Sent from my HTC 802w
Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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Some carriers are the only users option in their area.
Like for me, that carrier would be Verizon. They have great coverage.
But they also happen to be evil and had HTC block our HTC One's MID from being able to use the HTC Bootloader Unlock bin file.
It will fail the initial checks after getting the token from you.
We also have the 1.54 hboot as stock, so there is no using moonshine, or facepalm, or any other previous method as of yet.
So in order for poor folks with carriers that strongarm smaller companies like HTC into doing things against their wishes and our wishes,
S-off allows us to then change CID,MID, etc,...as well as then go and unlock the bootloader as we should be able to do by choice.
That's why they built it and added in a warranty void warning, so we could make that choice if we so choose.
Anyway, that should make it more clear to you now at least, sorry for the extra carrier rant, lol.
Plus the obvious other advantages of flashing radios, kernels, etc,...without doing fastboot.
Ah okay. So S-off does similar to the HTCDev unlock? If I used S-Off instead could I get rid of the ugly warning text on boot?
Htc dev unlock only needed partitions. S-off unlock ALL
Sent from my HTC 802w
Stephen304 said:
Ah okay. So S-off does similar to the HTCDev unlock? If I used S-Off instead could I get rid of the ugly warning text on boot?
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Yes you could get ride of the warning text with s-off, with s-on you cannot.
Everything what's said above + more , for example if htc one windows version ever gets ported s-off users can have it , we can also convert our device into ge edition / dev edition / flash whatever comes thru your mind , even splash screens , use modified bootloaders , we can also unlock bootloader without need of HTC official unlock process , we can lock it as well ( s-on can only relock it ) we can also completely hide we ever were rooted / unlocked for warranty reasons while s-on can't.
We can also use super cid which allows us to flash any ruu or use any region / carrier roms.
We can also downgrade bootloader or flash any other.
That's mainly it , also for example us with s-off have writeable partitions while for example s-on users still don't on 3.22 base.
And at the end maybe a good thing for you and some less advanced or less knowledgeable ppl s-on is a good thing since with s-on phone is practically indestructible software-wise , while with s-off small mistake even in fastboot could brick the device.
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santod040 said:
Plus the obvious other advantages of flashing radios, kernels, etc,...without doing fastboot.
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With the HTC One, you can flash radios and kernels in the recovery if you unlock the bootloader...
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Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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To get official OTA with updates to firmware, hboot and everything you have to get them from your carrier, and this depends on your CID. You cannot change this on S-ON. So basically your are bound to your carrier for life, they may but also may not release updates (like for ex. carriers in USA skipped 4.2 if I am not mistaken). You can of course flash custom ROM using dev unlock, but it won't update the firmware.
Ah okay thanks for the info! I have one more question about S-OFF if you don't mind: If I S-OFF and disable the red warning (flashing an unsigned fw), then S-ON again, would the warning come back?
If you do s-on with modified hboot will result an instant and forever brick. Dont do that.
Sent from my HTC 802w
Stephen304 said:
Ah okay thanks for the info! I have one more question about S-OFF if you don't mind: If I S-OFF and disable the red warning (flashing an unsigned fw), then S-ON again, would the warning come back?
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Why exactly would you want to go back to S-ON?
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4
Apologies if this sounds like a stupid question or if this has been answered elsewhere (I've been looking around for the better part of a day and just decided to make a thread about this).
HTC One J (M7) | HBoot 1.57 | 4.2.2 | AU Phone (not australia - AU the company) | S-On | Bootloader Locked
Anyway so I am able to use kingroot to temporarily root my device, however when rebooting obviously I lose these privileges (but thankfully I can just run it again and it usually works until I reboot). I was wondering if it's possible to unlock the bootloader (s off would be even better) with this temp root.
I tried the HTC dev way, but my CID is not authorized (it appears AU does not allow this to happen from what I understand; maybe I should also note I am not the original owner of the phone). I see SunShine is a way, but it's $25 so I would like to see if there is another way to do this first.
TDLR: I have temporary root access, can I use this to unlock my bootloader?
Sniper_X002 said:
Apologies if this sounds like a stupid question or if this has been answered elsewhere (I've been looking around for the better part of a day and just decided to make a thread about this).
HTC One J (M7) | HBoot 1.57 | 4.2.2 | AU Phone (not australia - AU the company) | S-On | Bootloader Locked
Anyway so I am able to use kingroot to temporarily root my device, however when rebooting obviously I lose these privileges (but thankfully I can just run it again and it usually works until I reboot). I was wondering if it's possible to unlock the bootloader (s off would be even better) with this temp root.
I tried the HTC dev way, but my CID is not authorized (it appears AU does not allow this to happen from what I understand; maybe I should also note I am not the original owner of the phone). I see SunShine is a way, but it's $25 so I would like to see if there is another way to do this first.
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If your cid is blocked from htcdev.com the only other method to unlock it would requires s-off. And the only way to s-off on hboot 1.57 is with Sunshine. Sunshine will also unlock the bootloader at the same time of doing s-off...
TDLR: I have temporary root access, can I use this to unlock my bootloader?
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The bootloader lock flag is on the pg1fs partition, you don't have write access on that partition when S-ON, even if you have temp root. So no you can't.
alray said:
If your cid is blocked from htcdev.com the only other method to unlock it would requires s-off. And the only way to s-off on hboot 1.57 is with Sunshine. Sunshine will also unlock the bootloader at the same time of doing s-off...
The bootloader lock flag is on the pg1fs partition, you don't have write access on that partition when S-ON, even if you have temp root. So no you can't.
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Alright thanks, I think I'll stick to having temproot for now.
the $25 for sunshine is completely worth it. I still have my one m7 and running AICP 7.1.2. It's not my daily. However, it is my back up in case something happens to my daily (nexus 6)