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No unlock coming from HTC

Still trying to get then to publicly announce this, but my contact within HTC (my business buys hundreds of devices a year) says its all AT&T. He said maybe someday, but chance it'll happen within 3 months is zero. Take it for what you will.

gtkansan said:
Still trying to get then to publicly announce this, but my contact within HTC (my business buys hundreds of devices a year) says its all AT&T. He said maybe someday, but chance it'll happen within 3 months is zero. Take it for what you will.
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Who is your contact? Can he leak the info we need for an unlock?

He doesn't have the needed codes. Or even the key signer. I asked. Said to say he wished he could help. Been working with me for 4 years, I believe him

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He doesn't have the needed codes. Or even the key signer. I asked. Said to say he wished he could help. Been working with me for 4 years, I believe him
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He doesnt know anyone that can help?

I got the direct line to some vp's. Calling in a bit to complain directly.

This was predictable. AT&T are a bunch of a$$es and HTC are a bunch of idiots to let AT&T do this to them.

slapshot30 said:
This was predictable. AT&T are a bunch of a$$es and HTC are a bunch of idiots to let AT&T do this to them.
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Well, guess that solved my issue. Exchanging for a white Skyrocket now.
Sent from HTC Vivid!

slapshot30 said:
This was predictable. AT&T are a bunch of a$$es and HTC are a bunch of idiots to let AT&T do this to them.
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I've been hypothesizing that it was moreso AT&T's fault, as compared with HTC's, as they've been relatively responsive about getting their other carrier bootloader unlocks out relatively promptly.
AT&T's had it against Android from day 1, choosing not to carry high-end devices, then lagging behind on updates on high-end devices, then not letting us sideload apps, and now this. It really wouldn't surprise me that AT&T is the primary culprit.
Look, the international Raider and the Bell/Rogers variants all got their dues very quickly; HTC is clearly not holding back on their part in terms of getting these devices unlocked. Since our hardware is literally identical to the Rogers one (radio bands and all), I don't see why there's any reason to keep ours locked while Rogers doesn't have this issue. There's only one variable here, and it's clearly the carrier.
Wasn't Rogers part of an ATT venture at one point? They're worthy of commendation that they didn't inherit these ridiculous business practices.

Aus_Azn said:
I've been hypothesizing that it was moreso AT&T's fault, as compared with HTC's, as they've been relatively responsive about getting their other carrier bootloader unlocks out relatively promptly.
AT&T's had it against Android from day 1, choosing not to carry high-end devices, then lagging behind on updates on high-end devices, then not letting us sideload apps, and now this. It really wouldn't surprise me that AT&T is the primary culprit.
Look, the international Raider and the Bell/Rogers variants all got their dues very quickly; HTC is clearly not holding back on their part in terms of getting these devices unlocked. Since our hardware is literally identical to the Rogers one (radio bands and all), I don't see why there's any reason to keep ours locked while Rogers doesn't have this issue. There's only one variable here, and it's clearly the carrier.
Wasn't Rogers part of an ATT venture at one point? They're worthy of commendation that they didn't inherit these ridiculous business practices.
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I think that would be Bell, but they are still really good to Android. Anyways, only Samsung from now on, since Samsung has the balls to tell them off.
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Longcat14 said:
Well, guess that solved my issue. Exchanging for a white Skyrocket now.
Sent from HTC Vivid!
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Really?
you waited until after EvilDevnull decides to help before you bail?

ClippinWings said:
Really?
you waited until after EvilDevnull decides to help before you bail?
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Uh Evil has been 'on the verge' of unlock for the 3D and Rezound for weeks and weeks that I have been following. Can never tell up from down, cant wait on a chance in case it never comes.

Truthfully all things considered you can't say it will Never happen because someone some where will come with a way to unlock the device. Whether it winds up being HTC themselves that leak something just to get sales up or some dev doing it there will be an unlock method sooner or later, just a matter of time and patience. Have yet to see any android device that exists that has not been able to be rooted and get the Bootloader unlocked.

ClippinWings said:
Really?
you waited until after EvilDevnull decides to help before you bail?
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I tweeted him long before people found out. He said he's going to do a few devices after the Rezound, then us. Sure, we can probably do something with the Rezound, but I'm not used to HTC devices anyways, kind of a brand thing.
Anyways, enjoy your Vivid, I know I will until my Skyrocket gets here.

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Aus_Azn said:
AT&T's had it against Android from day 1, choosing not to carry high-end devices, then lagging behind on updates on high-end devices, then not letting us sideload apps, and now this. It really wouldn't surprise me that AT&T is the primary culprit.
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Yup, every time I'm in an Att store all they talk about is the iphone and apple.
Even back when the HD2 came out and had a processor twice the speed of the the iphone at that time they were still touting it's superiority.
I was a bit surprised to see everyone in the att store when I went in to pick up my vivid with one. Apparently the store in my area were switching their employee phones from windows phones to Android phones and they were all going nuts and excited about the Vivid.
Anyways, I knew it was att that was preventing the unlocking, they have pretty much always been sticklers about things like this especially if it can insure their bloatware staying on our phones.

Sounds like we should keep up the pressure.

StrangeShadow said:
Yup, every time I'm in an Att store all they talk about is the iphone and apple.
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Isn't that the truth. When I told them I was considering the 4s or an Android phone they said 99% of the people who were using Apple and went to android end up bringing the phone back and switching to the 4s.
I couldn't believe how much bashing they gave to android. If I ever hear one of them saying anything again I am going to politely explain: "Does the iPhone come with any AT&T bloatware installed? No? Does every Android device? Yes. Remove your **** apps and people will like android more and the phones will run better."

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bconover93 said:
Nowadays you can uninstall the bloatware AND sideload apps.
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Uh, what?
The former, not without aftermarket tweaks. The latter, yes.
Don't try to praise AT&T here, it's not going to fly. They still are monumentally iBiased.
EDIT: I just checked Evil's site on this. Regardless of his accomplishments, I don't think I'd ever consider donating to him. He carries himself like a total <insert expletive here> as the most important developer in the world. Reading the thread was painful.

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Uh, what?
The former, not without aftermarket tweaks. The latter, yes.
Don't try to praise AT&T here, it's not going to fly. They still are monumentally iBiased.
EDIT: I just checked Evil's site on this. Regardless of his accomplishments, I don't think I'd ever consider donating to him. He carries himself like a total <insert expletive here> as the most important developer in the world. Reading the thread was painful.
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If he is the guy who gets s-off for the vivid.... He IS the most important developer in the world as far as I am concerned
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Anyone Work For AT&T, Verizon or BB Mobile?

Curious as to the pro's and cons? How do you like or dislike it? I go in for a couple interviews for a general sales positions. After 13 years at my current place of employment I figure it's time for a change and I'm exploring my options. All thoughts are welcome

I don't work for AT$T, but as a former customer I have cussed many an AT&T service rep out.

85gallon said:
I don't work for AT$T, but as a former customer I have cussed many an AT&T service rep out.
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Yeah. That's a cake walk compared to what I've been dealing with for the last decade. I can handle that.
I've updated the OP to include more companies as I move my resume through the telecommunications industry and get call backs and emails. Again any comments are welcomed. My focus is on customer derive so I'm trying to find a good fit.

85gallon said:
I don't work for AT$T, but as a former customer I have cussed many an AT&T service rep out.
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^THIS^

85gallon said:
I don't work for AT$T, but as a former customer I have cussed many an AT&T service rep out.
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Thats mainly because the half the people who work there dont like the job and dont know anything about the phones/service except what there told by the computer or whats written on the box. Even the noobiest of noobs on here would be way better
Controlling you through a chip in your butt since 1999

stumpyz9 said:
Thats mainly because the half the people who work there dont like the job and dont know anything about the phones/service except what there told by the computer or whats written on the box. Even the noobiest of noobs on here would be way better
Controlling you through a chip in your butt since 1999
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It's actually worst than you think, most of them don't even check the computer, they call a dealer hotline or the main stores support line
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Replacing my bionic with an iphone 5!

Cant wait to start camping in front of the apple store so i can pick my new phone, i want to be the first i'm so excited!

blewis said:
Cant wait to start camping in front of the apple store so i can pick my new phone, i want to be the first i'm so excited!
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News Worthy here.

blewis said:
Cant wait to start camping in front of the apple store so i can pick my new phone, i want to be the first i'm so excited!
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Nice!!! Your getting a phone that is outdated compared to all the android phones. Good job!!! :good:

I would wait for the iPhone 6. Rumor is that will have 6 rows of icons.
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blewis said:
Cant wait to start camping in front of the apple store so i can pick my new phone, i want to be the first i'm so excited!
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I assume you're testing your satire skills?

cromanorn said:
Nice!!! Your getting a phone that is outdated compared to all the android phones. Good job!!! :good:
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That's what I was thinking. Why waste your money on yesterday's technology?

He was setting himself up for disaster. Thats like going to an Obama rally and telling everyone your gonna vote for Romney. I'll give you a hug and say have fun... but thats all the love your gonna get on this forum.

Either he's being sarcastic or he's just wants attention. The iPhone 5 is behind in hardware. My brother is an iPhone users but not one of the idiots who just buys an iPhone because of the name. My brother and I always talk about the differences in our phones and he knows that iPhone is behind in the hardware department. Apple makes good products however they know they have a leash on majority of it's users who will follow them like lemmings off a cliff. Many people who buy iPhone don't even know what they are buying. It's more of a status symbol, a fad, a bling, whatever you wanna call it. Personally I don't care if you're getting an iPhone. You're succumbing to Apple's tactics and you will keep buying inferior phones cause they know they got you hooked. I could go on and on about it. Just don't let the door hit you on the way out.

The bar I go to [too often perhaps but that is another story] had a bunch of peeps that iphones. Now I don't think but only one has a crapple. They all jumped ship to Androids and like them much better. Regardless if the OP is honestly enthusiastic about it more power to him/her.

The OP is entitled to do as he wants. He wants the iPhone5 then so be it. I'm pretty sure most of us don't care and posts like these aren't necessary. It's pretty much like waving a piece of meat at a bunch of hungry wolves. This post is really going to get nowhere. GL with that iPhone5 and be prepared to stand in line for hours. My brother did that last year and he's smart enough to preorder this one this time.

I figured they were sarcastic but you never know. As far as the iPhone goes it is a solid, easy to use phone for people that aren't in to messing with phones. They can check there email, listen to music, put it on an iPod dock, play Angry Birds and of course make phone calls. My wife has one and has a hard time using my Bionic on ICS. Another issue that some people have is that they buy and android phone and its Junk from the get go. There are dozens of different makes and models on all the different carriers and and you buy a crappy device it can taint there taste for android cause they think ALL the android phones are bad like theres. Apple has one solid phone that is the same on all carriers. I have a friend that had a Droid 2 and now has a HTC Thunderbolt. He IS getting the iPhone 5 because of all the bad experiences he's had with the HTC. He has never used ICS or JB which I believe is the BEST thing to happen to an Android device.
I LOVE macs. Always have. I have a Mac Mini that I run OSX 10.6.8 and Windows 7 Professional on. It gives me the best of both worlds. I won't knock the iPhone, but with the solid hardware that is coming out and the vastly improved OS's like ICS and JB I think Google is on to something...

How is this worth mentioning? Has nothing to do with the Bionic.

I'm totally just kidding i just wanted to start a fire.....

blewis said:
I'm totally just kidding i just wanted to start a fire.....
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Lol.
mission accomplished...:beer:
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What idiot would camp out for a phone anyway?? Seriously
Luke

lukesdiesel said:
What idiot would camp out for a phone anyway?? Seriously
Luke
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Dude look in front of the apple store before the new iphone is out

This vid really explain alot about iphone users
http://pocketnow.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-fake-video/

I think IPhones (doesn't matter which one) are good phones but not for dudes. It's like a dude buying a new VW Bug, totally not cool.

I never understood why people have such a hard time with android to say that apple is easy? Its like, wow. Android isn't hard either.
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how is wifi antenna on iphone.. because I heared it s weak.... sorry bu we need good antenna.
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Genome Sequencing

When my mom asked my kid brother what he wanted for his birthday he asked to have his DNA or genome sequenced to find out his genotype. (Or something like that, I'm still learning about all this.) She asked me to pick out a computer for him haha. But I've been doing some research and I think it's a really good idea! They can tell you what health issues you are predisposition to, and give your doctor information about your genetic structure that would help him better prescribe medicine. Also they tell you your genetic ancestry, genetic relatives, and even what percent Neanderthal you are. haha
23andme will do it for $300. I heard about them through Wired, and their website looks good.
Has anyone ever done this or know someone who has? What company did you use?
On the other hand if you think it's a bad idea for some reason, tell me why. So far I don't see any reason why not to do this. Frankly I am dumbfounded that health insurance companies do not require it.

Seems like a worthwhile idea. I didn't know it was as inexpensive as $300 already, I figured it was still like a couple hundred thousand or more. If I had the disposable income, I'd probably go for it.

huggs said:
Seems like a worthwhile idea. I didn't know it was as inexpensive as $300 already, I figured it was still like a couple hundred thousand or more. If I had the disposable income, I'd probably go for it.
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I know right. And the way I understand it they continue to check different new diseases against your genotype and update your predispositions on your profile, for the initial $300. They add new genetic relatives on your family tree too.
It's just such a new thing I don't know what I might should be concerned about, or who has good track records. I was hoping someone had already had it done and could share their experience.

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I know right. And the way I understand it they continue to check different new diseases against your genotype and update your predispositions on your profile, for the initial $300. They add new genetic relatives on your family tree too.
It's just such a new thing I don't know what I might should be concerned about, or who has good track records. I was hoping someone had already had it done and could share their experience.
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The only downside is the government is obviously collecting your DNA to create a clone army.
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prototype7 said:
The only downside is the government is obviously collecting your DNA to create a clone army.
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Right. But what I'm most concerned about is will the rogue DNA recognize me as its genetic match and obey my commands. I don't want Dr Frankenstein to build a monster out of me if I can't control myself, ya know? The cloning feature was only a bit extra, but I don't want a genetic friend. I want to be able to sleep in and force my genetic equivalent go to work and clean the house, and the ESP control feature is a little out of my price range.

There are downsides. How differently would you lived your life if you knew there was an increased likelihood of dying early from some terrible disease. I think in most cases I would want to know, but not everyone would want to.
The biggest problem is going to be when insurance companies start to require this testing as a way to get coverage. Then those people with "bad genetics" will be forced to pay higher premiums.
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Bumping the thread, I won't do it again.
I'm kinda surprised nobody has done this.

Never done it, but it sounds pretty cool.
Is there any point in bumping a 6 hour old post.
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Haven't done it. But at $300 its getting a lot closer to what I'd be willing to pay and im sure eventually it will be cheap enough for insurance companies to cover it since it would let them know about possible medical expenses down the road.
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I will probably try to convince her to let him do it.
sy224048 said:
Never done it, but it sounds pretty cool.
Is there any point in bumping a 6 hour old post.
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It had been 24 hours since the last post, not 6. I bumped it because I'm going to have to decide tonight.

I think he just wants to know if he's adopted without saying it
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jaszek said:
I think he just wants to know if he's adopted without saying it
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Haha. Well I could save him the money because I know he wasn't. He's one of those "too smart for his own good" type kids. He wants to be an evolutionary biologist. Who picks something like that as a career at 15 years old? lol. He is definitely the next generation of scientific minded free thinkers.

Next Nexus Phone OEM - Huawei?

A lot of rumours going around over who will make the next Nexus phone but this may be a solid one.
I Personally have not had any experience with any Huawei products so I can't say whether this excites me or not.
Would still prefer Sony to have a go.
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_confirmed_as_next_nexus_phone_maker_by_isuppli-news-11418.php
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/03/04/huawei-nexus-google/

Arrgh
Lets hope not.

I find it hard to believe that they would leave it in the hands of a successful brand but not as successful as any other OEM they could have if they wish to.

hmm
Probably come embedded with hidden spyware and a small nuke attached to the motherboard.

To build a Nexus which is supposed to have specs of a flagship phone and a killer price tag, how about giving OnePlus a try to manufacture it?

OKLYMY said:
To build a Nexus which is supposed to have specs of a flagship phone and a killer price tag, how about giving OnePlus a try to manufacture it?
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Supply is the main reason OnePlus wouldn't get the next nexus.

trsix said:
Probably come embedded with hidden spyware and a small nuke attached to the motherboard.
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LOL, I was hoping LSD instead!

NEVER use those Chinese brand
The QC is a joke
Also, don't let them increase the market share

Just a rumor with nothing behind it. The specs are obviously made up (Snapdragon 820 in 2015 and 6000mAh battery lol) and we've seen thousands of these fake concepts in the past.

Definitely impossible.
They'd make it look like the iPhone anyways

OKLYMY said:
To build a Nexus which is supposed to have specs of a flagship phone and a killer price tag, how about giving OnePlus a try to manufacture it?
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Riiiiight. Leave it to the company with the absolute worst customer service in the business.

I read somewhere that LG will be releasing a new Nexus some time this year.

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Probably come embedded with hidden spyware and a small nuke attached to the motherboard.
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You know Huawei is Chinese and not American, right?

Hope next nexus will be chinese brand with MTK SOC.
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Would be odd for google to chose a company from a country that blocks most of their services. Maybe a peace offering to get back into mainland China.

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Hope next nexus will be chinese brand with MTK SOC.
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Why would you want a nexus with a sub par SOC?

i like to see LG again, but in the end i dont care much what manufacturer builds it. i dont care if chinese, russian, taiwanese or japanese.
but please, not Motorola. i just dont like that Design.
anyway, i guess nothing will beat the timeless nexus 5 design. just give me a better camera and a thicker battery :cyclops:

this could be good news actually. one sure thing is that its going to be more affordable. the one reason that kept me away from n6 is the price tag.

if Huawei is making the next nexus, then count me out. I'll stay with my N5.

would like to try it out as long as it does not have any "baidu" in it, besides smartphone market is having loads of competition from japan and Korea let see what the Chinese make of things