Is OG Droid to Droid 2 worth the jump? - Motorola Droid and Milestone Q&A, Help & Troublesh

Is it worth the upgrade for let's say upgrade cost of less than $50?
D2 appear to be same generation OMAP chip (not the same chip, but same G3) just clocked higher at 1Ghz, but I am currently OC'ed the D1 to around 1Ghz as well.
Should I just wait around until better newer phones drop the price or is this worth the jump for cheap price difference?
It looks like if I wait few more months, Droid X2 may drop below $100 (currently going for around $130-165 around my neighborhood according to CL) and that may be worth the wait.
I don't know.
What would you guys do?

In my opinion Iwould thimk it would be worth it just for the increase in internal memory (8g vs. 0.2g) ,that way you have your sd card availible for other media, I also think that would make it operate faster on apps because it would not have to go to the sd card for them,just my thoughts
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RAM. The Droid 2 has 512mb of RAM whereas the Droid 1 only has 256
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I had a D2 and I actually downgraded to the original droid for a couple reasons. The main being speed, like the OP said, you can just OC up to 1ghz. Not a big deal. And when you compare stock OS to stock OS the D1 is built on a more minimalistic OS enabling it to run faster.
As far as most other things I'll take the D2 but, alas, I blew out the flash memory in it.

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Does T-Mobile already have the phone??

Does T-Mobile already have the phone?? How does some people already have the phone?? I have Samsung Galaxy S 4g I love the phone but not liking the internal memory shortage issues. I hope G2x doesn't have the same issue.
Phone comes out in eight days from today on the twentieth ... some people have it because they either have direct access to it or know someone who does
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Think online sales start on the 15th. It's in the stores on the 20th.
Not to throw a spanner in the works but this was just released. Coming soon HTC code name pyrimid or real name Sensation. link
I was all set on getting the g2x but with the not insignificant issues, I'm now not sure. I could be returning to HTC
Android 2.3 Gingerbread / New Sense UI (Like the one on the EVO 3D)
4G Capable
1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snaptdragon processor
768 MB of RAM memory
4GB of internal memory / with 8GB microSD card included (microSD up to 32 MB)
4.3-inch S-LCD capacitive touchscreen / qHD resolution at 960×540
Gorilla Glass
8 MP rear-facing camera (1080p recording) / 1.2 MP front-facing camera
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n, along with bluetooth 3.0
yes, saw that too but i still think i will get the LG. Do we know if the sensation bootloader is locked?
Don't know, but that is one of the reasons I'm not really worrying about it and looking at the g2x
I'm still getting the G2X. 1.2GHz? Please, we'll have a modified kernel sporting 1.2 in no time. As for the ram, it won't be too noticeable since what's actually available to the user is what matters. You can check that using Advanced Task Killer. Also, from the vids, the G2X looks quicker and smoother when opening apps and home screen transitions. That's because it's running pretty much stock. I can't wait to see how blistering fast it is when it gets GB. A couple other things to note, G2X gets two speakers and sensation only gets the same crappy one on the back, that whole "unibody" aluminum surrounding the phone is actually all on the battery cover.
Yeah I know that was harsh lol
EDIT: This is pretty funny. It's the O2X vs GS2 gaming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAFs9OQinNo&feature=related
cenwesi said:
yes, saw that too but i still think i will get the LG. Do we know if the sensation bootloader is locked?
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Paul of modaco asked HTC and they replied that htc sensation will have a locked bootloader.
I still will prefer g2x cause i do not like sense. Sense with all of its 3d effects and unnecesary features are such big memory huggers. Anyways i can easily oc my 2x to 1200 without any side effects.
And 4.3 inch are not my type. Too big for a phone and drains more battery. 4 inch is better for me. And only 1 gb internal memory is not good
ericc191 said:
I'm still getting the G2X. 1.2GHz? Please, we'll have a modified kernel sporting 1.2 in no time.
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However, unlike the Tegra 2, the dual core Snapdragons can clock cores independently of each other. This will improve performance and battery life.
ericc191 said:
As for the ram, it won't be too noticeable since what's actually available to the user is what matters. You can check that using Advanced Task Killer.
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I'm one of the first people to say "Unused RAM is wasted RAM", and 512mb has been more than enough for most people. The big question mark is what kinds of requirements apps and the OS will have in the near future, once Ice Cream drops. Also, I hope you aren't advocating the use of task killers
Not to take anything away from the G2x, it's still a great phone, and one that I'm planning on getting if it ships with an unlocked bootloader.
Am only considering the G2X over here (US) because of the additional AT&T data bands. is still a toss-up as to whether the AT&T gets done, but I will not be getting anything on TMo over here with only their frequencies until whatever happens is final.
If I decide to keep G2X after the return period is up, my MT4G will be heading promptly to eBay. Buyers will have choice of fully rooted with CM7.0.0 or stock - rooted or unrooted - lol.
I posted this in another thread comparing the two:
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Looks like a nice phone but looks like a summer release, which means Sept or Oct if I actually were to wait on it. It does look like the big brother of the N1. It has lots of nice specs too aside from Sense.
The Tmobile G2X is available online in a few days, dual core, 4" screen, HDMI out and it has stock Android. I believe the phone is unlocked and easily rooted. Looking over at the LG thread they already have custom firmwares and kernels etc. CM7 is already in the works and should be here shortly.
I've been doing a lot of research and I think I'm sold on the G2X mainly because my Nexus One has crappy download speeds on 3G and they just released 4G in my area. I've been looking at the 4G phones for some time but have been waiting for a Tegra 2 chipset.
I've been searching on the different GPU's involving the Orion SGS2 and the Snapdragon 2... and I think Nvidia is really pushing mobile games and with NVidia support will only equal it being around longer. Plus the Motorola Xoom is Google's main platform for honeycomb and it uses the Tegra 2 for GUI acceleration.
So Game and OS acceleration = Tegra 2
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Here's my 2 cents/rant:
I love the 4.3" screen over the 4". However, HTC has ruined the Sensation. How? First, I do not like HTC Sense, which wouldn't be a problem if I could load whatever firmware or ROM I wanted onto the phone. However, if the Thunderbolt teaches us anything, it's that HTC is going to become more and more like Motorola--who knows if the Sensation will have an encrypted bootloader?
So for me it's the (IMO) superior screen but awful Sense versus the inferior screen but the ability to do what I want with my $500 or $600 mini computer/phone.
And might I add that Sense is even more intrusive now--have any of you seen how HTC has destroyed the pull down menu on the Thunderbolt? WTF?!
Now to continue the rant: why should I even stay with T-Mobile? AT&T is simply and utterly terrible. They ought to be sued and investigated for their false advertising of 4G speeds. I went into an AT&T store the other day to check out the Atrix. I ran speed test on the Atrix and got around 1mbps down and only 0.3 mbps up. On my Vibrant, which technically isn't even HSPA+, I got 1.5 mbps down and 1.2 mbps up consistently in the same location. So [email protected]#$ AT&T, why would I want to stick with T-Mobile only to be forced to have AT&T take over my contract? AT&T purposely cripples the upload speeds on their phones advertised as 4G. [email protected]#$ them and their awful customer satisfaction and rate plans.
My friend has it simply because he works for tmobile and he finished yhr special class/training course
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SykesAT said:
Think online sales start on the 15th. It's in the stores on the 20th.
Not to throw a spanner in the works but this was just released. Coming soon HTC code name pyrimid or real name Sensation. link
I was all set on getting the g2x but with the not insignificant issues, I'm now not sure. I could be returning to HTC
Android 2.3 Gingerbread / New Sense UI (Like the one on the EVO 3D)
4G Capable
1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snaptdragon processor
768 MB of RAM memory
4GB of internal memory / with 8GB microSD card included (microSD up to 32 MB)
4.3-inch S-LCD capacitive touchscreen / qHD resolution at 960×540
Gorilla Glass
8 MP rear-facing camera (1080p recording) / 1.2 MP front-facing camera
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n, along with bluetooth 3.0
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FYI - HTC Sensation only has 1GB internal storage - http://www.htc.com/www/product/sensation/specification.html
gaww said:
Am only considering the G2X over here (US) because of the additional AT&T data bands. is still a toss-up as to whether the AT&T gets done, but I will not be getting anything on TMo over here with only their frequencies until whatever happens is final.
If I decide to keep G2X after the return period is up, my MT4G will be heading promptly to eBay. Buyers will have choice of fully rooted with CM7.0.0 or stock - rooted or unrooted - lol.
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Thinking the same thing, except I would love to use it unlocked on at&t.....
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dnichols4 said:
FYI - HTC Sensation only has 1GB internal storage - http://www.htc.com/www/product/sensation/specification.html
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The HTC Sensation will have a 4GB Rom however 1gb will be allocated to the data partition for apps, the rest will be allocated to the system, cache, recovery partitions etc.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
Kind of like how the desire has a 512mb rom but only ~130mb for apps
Mr. Spontaneous said:
However, unlike the Tegra 2, the dual core Snapdragons can clock cores independently of each other. This will improve performance and battery life.
I'm one of the first people to say "Unused RAM is wasted RAM", and 512mb has been more than enough for most people. The big question mark is what kinds of requirements apps and the OS will have in the near future, once Ice Cream drops. Also, I hope you aren't advocating the use of task killers
Not to take anything away from the G2x, it's still a great phone, and one that I'm planning on getting if it ships with an unlocked bootloader.
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No no, task killers are definitely bad unless you have a G1 like me. They are useful for telling someone how much available memory their phone has, though.
ko0l said:
The HTC Sensation will have a 4GB Rom however 1gb will be allocated to the data partition for apps, the rest will be allocated to the system, cache, recovery partitions etc.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
Kind of like how the desire has a 512mb rom but only ~130mb for apps
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That's really not cool. Are they advertising that it has 4GB or 1GB, though?
ko0l said:
The HTC Sensation will have a 4GB Rom however 1gb will be allocated to the data partition for apps, the rest will be allocated to the system, cache, recovery partitions etc.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
Kind of like how the desire has a 512mb rom but only ~130mb for apps
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I think the discrepancy is due to the differences between the T-Mobile version and the international version. I mean, look at the specs of the Desire vs. Incredible vs. N1.
Good catch. I read an article last night that clarified the 1 GB was actual user addressable available space.
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stefan.buddle said:
Phone comes out in eight days from today on the twentieth ... some people have it because they either have direct access to it or know someone who does
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It is out now - ordered on. I have 20 days to try it and return it if not satisfied. I want to see if "8 GB storage, 512 MB RAM" is going to be a factor. I will be rooting it and installing a different ROM and moving the larger apps where possible over to the SD card.
Game on!

Motorola Droid 3 Tutorial Video’s Leaked

The next huge device from the Droid Revolution by Motorola i.e Droid 3 is getting ready to release according to the sources. Today couple of Droid 3 Tutorial videos have leaked which shows off the huge device. According to the rumors ,the device will sport a dual-core 1Ghz TI CPU,Android 2.3.3 ( Gingerbread),a qHD 960x540 4.0" display and according to the leaked video it also features 1080p HD video recording and a separate grey line up row for number keys. This hints us that the Motorola Droid 3 is getting ready for the release. Videos below via MobileGearz
Two more videos are Here
Meh whats the point? The DroidX2 just came out with a dual core processor so that advantage is kinda moot. I suppose that thing has a hardware keyboard? Video didn't show it.
Also, when you say "videos after the break" that makes it sound highly likely you just c&p'd this from a/your blogs RSS feed...
edit: ah now I feel like a retard. I missed the other two videos. so yes, it does have a slide out QWERTY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olOxHEU-2CU&feature=related
It does have a qwerty keyboard and dual core 1Ghz processor
eaglerazor123 said:
It does have a qwerty keyboard and dual core 1Ghz processor
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Yeah, I saw that now, thanks.
I don't see the need for a new Droid phone. Feels kinda rushed IMO. I also don't see the need to cling to the Droid brand, but that may be someone at Moto adopting the iPhone style of phones, hoping to compete. Wouldn't surprise me if that is their approach, to retain the same look and feel to build loyalty. Gotta give them points for being consistent, though.
Can I haz world phone capabilities?
Unlocked bootloader, even better.
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seems awesome!!!
hopefully it comes with an unlocked boot loader or at least motorola xoom style bootloader so that at least someone can get cm7 running on it
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Great, I look forward to its appearance.
Direct Fulfillment starts on 7/7 (hope you have unlimited data locked in before then) and the stores get it on 7/14. Can we get a Droid 3/Milestone 3 section going?
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I'm wait for official promote
But the Droid 3 only have 512MB RAM,this is not mainstream ,atrix 4g same dual core but has a 1G memory.
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Direct Fulfillment starts on 7/7 (hope you have unlimited data locked in before then)
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Heh, I specifically activated an old XV6800 just for that purpose. Moved my wife's old VX8350 (LG flip) to the winmo phone just to get an unlimited plan on her number. Did this on the 6th, and then ordered the D3 the next morning, using the VX8350's NE2 upgrade.
And discovered the XV6800 still has a NE2 upgrade available for it. If/when they come out with a 4G capable slider that upgrade will come in handy.
andytian007 said:
But the Droid 3 only have 512MB RAM,this is not mainstream ,atrix 4g same dual core but has a 1G memory.
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Not really. Saying the atrix has 1g ram is a product of marketing. The atrix basically has two operating systems, and two sets of ram. Neither android os, or the webtop os, get to use the full 1g ram.
The same will be likely for the bionic. Unless we see 1.5 or 2 gigs of ram for the bionic. It will have webtop, so unless moto changes the way their phones handle webtop, we can expect 512 for the bionic as well.
Though from everything I've heard so far, the 512 ddr2 memory in the d3 is working just fine, if not better than phones with more, but slower, ram.

What do you guys think?

I have a DROID X2 right now and the development community is a lot slower than a lot of other phones due to the lack of an unlocked bootloader. I'm highly considering buying an OG DROID from someone on craigslist and ROMing, Theming, Overclocking, and undervolting the hell out of it. I used to have a samsung fascinate back in the day and i could do just about anything with that phone since the bootloader was totally unlocked. I just wonder if the OG Droid is worth buying and replacing the DROID X2 that I have now.
What do you guys think? Is it worth the $75 OBO?
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This thread was actually titled differently when I posted it. I have no idea what happened to it. :I
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I got my OG droid recently with dock and 2 chargers for less than $50.
DROID X2 is droid 2, or is something diffrent ?
Droid 2 is only single core.
X2 is dual core tegra.
Droid x is more close to droid 2 but with larger screen and no physical keyboard and 8mp cam instead of 5.
X2 is different beast all together.
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You have a Droid X2 and want to get a Droid? I can't think why.
OK, we all like modding, theming, etc, but you have a little beast with Dual-core 1GHz ARM Cortex-A9 processor, ULP GeForce GPU, Tegra 2 AP20H chipset and 512MB RAM. It also has an FM Radio which the Droid doesn't and also a screen with 540 x 960 pixels, 4.3 inches (~256 ppi pixel density)
It is a way better device than Droid. So I would keep it and wait for development to start. I believe the bootloader will be unlocked just like Atrix' did.
And unfortunately I can't use it here in Greece as we only use GSM Networks and not CDMA's or I would buy it from you!
I absolutely love my OG Droid, but over the last 6 months it's started to get pretty frustrating. It is a really fun device and there are lots of great ROMs for it, but the internal memory is too small and it is starting to be way too slow, even overclocked. I've been waiting for what seems like forever for a phone that I've deemed worthy of replacing it, and the Galaxy Nexus should be it, if VZW will ever decide to release it.

Possible replacement for Droid X2

So guys I'm tired of this failure of a phone so I thought it was about time to try something better. The Verizon reps have only offered me the Dinc2 thus far until I requested about the Droid 3 which they agreed to.
All I want to know is your opinion on the device. Mainly about the roms n tweaks you have. Coming from the Droid X2 we only have about two roms, and ICS would be nice to try out, how functional is it? And how is your satisfaction with this phone before and after root?
The locked boot loader definitely has hindered it but Hash has done amazing. This is a solid phone.
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My bigger complain is that there is only 512mb of ram, and that isn't really enough.
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I never have any RAM issues but I don't use the bloated stock ROM. Of course ICS runs beautifully.
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The Droid X2 has only 512mb of ram and a locked bootloader as well. Except the daul-core uses 100mb so only a total of 404 is available, is that the same with the omap processor? And X2 only has gotten as far as unofficial buggy cm7. /:
Hows the screen? Is a 4' qHD less pixely than my 4.3'?
Get Dinc 2 if you don't need physical keyboard.
It is going to get ICS officially and has 756MB of RAM.
Issue with D3 is that ICS is not officially confirmed, which means all the current bugs with ICS roms MAY not be resolved due to kernel issues.
DInc2 was actually enjoyable to use, D3 is just OK.
IMHO, dual core is over hyped.
Well I'm thinking in the long run IF D3 gets ics officially then the daul core will be a significantly better than single core Dinc. I love the more ram but I want the security of having a daul-core.
Try using both for a while at Verizon.
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Dual core vs 1 gig of ram... both nice to have but both are still a gimmick... i havent seen many apps that will chew up my ~400 megs (think its cloer to 230 with the system up) and with android reclaiming ram its never an issue, same with dual core, no software needs it (name something that uses it), and if it "does" try locking a core with setcpu or something and run it. Anything I've found runs the same w/1 1ghz core vs 2 1ghz cores. Maybe there isnt any software out there demaninding enough to make dual core useful? I personally would ask about htc or samsung phones trying to avoid moto
The physical keyboard is nice. And if you load a custom ROM of course it runs fine. The only reason I kill apps is because of battery.
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The guy basically just gave me an upgrade to any phone using a loophole that apparently gets me unlimited 4g. I'm looking at the Razr because of its $100 price unlike the Rezound (my favorite) which is $200.
I think the only difference is 4G between us and the RAZR. I mean the RAM and CPU speeds are different a bit but oh well.
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I'd say the keyboard is the deciding factor not whether it has dual core or 768MB ram
I agree with WP. If you bought the Droid 3 for any reason other then the keyboard, you bought the wrong phone.
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I am now getting the Rexound.
Thank you for all your help.

Atrix HD Revealed

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/04/motorola-atrix-hd/?m=false
Havent seen a post either here or the atrix 2 forum about it, so cheers!
No fingerprint reader?
Looks like shiit and has shiit specs to begin with. It has lower battery capacity than the original atrix which is unacceptable.
Only .5 Ghz (no extra core) more then original stuff plus little more pixels and no finger print reader. i only have two words for Motorola "Middle Finger" cos they probibally wont even unlock the boot loader hack they are trying to block the boot loader on existing phones.
Meh.. same old tricks again.
xateeq said:
Only .5 Ghz (no extra core) more then original stuff plus little more pixels and no finger print reader. i only have two words for Motorola "Middle Finger" cos they probibally wont even unlock the boot loader hack they are trying to block the boot loader on existing phones.
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.5 Dang, 1.5? Way better than many phones
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Doesn't look like the battery can be removed. Minor CPU bump, same amount of ram... only noticeable improvement here is the screen.
Tegra?
I thought that was a hardware key down there, too bad it was just a carrier wart.
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I'm sorry. It just doesn't scream "upgrade".
Atrix is a line of webtop supporting devices, processor/ram specs should be top priority and it already seems outdated with S3 having quad core and 2gb ram.
I can live with 2 powerful cores, but the phone is just screaming for a ram upgrade.
As a big fan of the original Atrix, I can't be any more disappointed with the 2 sequels.
AtrixHd fails for me for no fingerprint unlock button, only 1GB of RAM, low battery that appears non-removable (if you want to "look" like the RAZR Maxx then use their freakin battery), locked bootloader, and it only has HALF the internal storage as our phone.
Atrix HD has nothing that I want. Even the "updated screen" is just gonna kill the battery.
It's a shame that the OG Atrix>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Atrix HD>Atrix2...
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I'm struggling to decide whether this new Atrix HD is simply unimpressive or really unimpressive.
The dual-core thing isn't necessarily too much of a problem - hopefully it is Qualcomm Krait-based in which case, performance would be on a par with a quad-core A9. The smaller battery (in comparison to the original Atrix) doesn't exactly sound like a great idea, especially as the phone has a large HD display and is packing LTE...
I thought I had read somewhere recently that Motorola wasn't going to abandon fingerprint-scanners in high-end phones? Doesn't appear to be the case at present.
pre installed with ICS? I guess it will take more than 1 year to upgrade to Jelly Bean. Lol..
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/MOTOROLA-ATRIX%E2%84%A2-HD/MB886-ATRIX-HD,en_US,pd.html
This is in my opinion another downgrade from the Atrix 4G, just like the Atrix 2!
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Maringer said:
I thought I had read somewhere recently that Motorola wasn't going to abandon fingerprint-scanners in high-end phones? Doesn't appear to be the case at present.
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Apparently according to Briefmobile, Motorola uses model numbers in the 900's for "high end" phones. This puts all the Atrix models in the "medium" bracket.
http://briefmobile.com/atrix-hd-shows-up-on-motorolas-website-with-a-4-5-inch-hd-display?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+briefmobile+%28BriefMobile%29&utm_content=FaceBook
Its a good looking phone with pretty good specs, it will do good.
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I don't see any logical reason to upgrade to this piece of **** from my original atrix.
I almost forgot to add that the at&t logo looks like sheep poo.
So its compatible with the lapdock 100, so i would be interested to know if its compatible with the 500 with the ethernet, video out and sd card reader. That would at least give it something over the original atrix.
The atrix line is basically there for people who uses at&t and want webtop.
Yes, if you don't live in the US. You better avoid Motorola. Lol..
Internal 8gb?
So my Atrix 4G has 16gb internal & this has 8Gb not much of an upgrade really, might be better camera, but now looks like I will be leaving Motorola??
Surethom said:
So my Atrix 4G has 16gb internal & this has 8Gb not much of an upgrade really, might be better camera, but now looks like I will be leaving Motorola??
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It is weird how they are moving backwards with the Atrix line. I'd love to have the 1.5ghz dual core and I'm a sucker for big screens. Why can't they make a phone with our Atrix specs...just updated hardware (faster CPU, more ram, screen..)
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