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....and Droid 3 is missing. Could still be coming down the pipeline, but it looks like we are out of luck for the first wave (not that surprising).
http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/03/bl2012-03-06.html
I know I have forwarded this theory before - but at first glance, the list does only have devices (among all manufacturers) that are well over 512MB of RAM - I think Dinc2 is the lowest at 768MB. I may be wrong - don't have all specs memorized.
Rlin5741 said:
I know I have forwarded this theory before - but at first glance, the list does only have devices (among all manufacturers) that are well over 512MB of RAM - I think Dinc2 is the lowest at 768MB. I may be wrong - don't have all specs memorized.
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It's because the people at motorola that make these decisions don't even know what RAM is and haven't even heard of kernel or XDA-forums.
They think... Hm..1024 is more than 512.. lets not give 512 mb phones ICS.
If they'd at least unlock the damn bootloaders so people like hashcode can do it for them ffs
Part of me wants to never buy another motorola device, but this keyboard is just too nice. Motorola does a good job on the hardware but between the bloatware and the locked bootloader the software part can be disappointing. So we have an os released less than 6 months after our device was released and motorola basically says screw you. Verizon is just the messenger here.
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Some of those phones are almost the same hardware as the droid 3 so I'm hoping that those vzw roms can at least be reverse engineered to figure out what's still missing in the cm9 alpha, like the camera.
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I want the hardware acceleration front facing camera and face unlock.... then I will jump ship from stock on my xt860.
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Reporting the full Motorola update schedule site: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
interesting that bionic and d4 are still listed as evaluating. But even in best case, that droid 3 is only left out of the ics fun for the first rollout (vzw does say more updates are coming, and droid 2 did get updates almost 2 years after release), it looks like it will be a while - even some brand new devices that were in the vzw press release are scheduled for q3...
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Part of me wants to never buy another motorola device
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Our only hope is the Google takeover of Moto will change their bootloader policy. This then, I can't bring myself to buy another Moto phone.
By the time it comes to the Droid 3, it will be upgrade time...
Droid 3 is one of the best phones with android and qwerty and motorola dont plan to update to ICS?? Motorola in software decisions sucks!!! They never listened to the users
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Some of those phones are almost the same hardware as the droid 3 so I'm hoping that those vzw roms can at least be reverse engineered to figure out what's still missing in the cm9 alpha, like the camera.
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The big constraint is going to be the locked bootloader.
It don't mean that droid 3 will never has ICS... just it not going to be on this first group... I'm sure in a couple of months we will see it on the list.
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It don't mean that droid 3 will never has ICS... just it not going to be on this first group... I'm sure in a couple of months we will see it on the list.
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Well if they wait much longer:
A) people have upgraded to a newer phone
B) all people who actually care about having ICS rather than gingerbread already use hashcode's ICS
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Well if they wait much longer:
A) people have upgraded to a newer phone
B) all people who actually care about having ICS rather than gingerbread already use hashcode's ICS
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I think that in Q1 of 2013 we might have an oficial ICS support, i don't believe sonner than that...
First it's motorola who decide, if our droid 3 can have ICS, then VZW if it will have.
Motorola should still be evaluating if ICS will going to run fine on our Droid 3 and if it's they will update his "ICS Update Schedule" and VZW his own.
Cya
rblanca said:
I think that in Q1 of 2013 we will have an oficial ICS support, i don't believe sonner than that...
First it's motorola who decide, if our droid 3 can have ICS, then VZW if it will have.
Motorola should still be evaluating if ICS will going to run fine on our Droid 3 and if it's they will update his "ICS Update Schedule" and VZW his own.
Cya
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Well I don't think it'll take hashcode 'nd crew 1 year to fix hw codecs/video recording and some bug fixes
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Well I don't think it'll take hashcode 'nd crew 1 year to fix hw codecs/video recording and some bug fixes
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Neither myself, I just talking about an Oficial ICS support by Motorola...so cheers to Hashcode!
This is a copy and paste of the email i received with identifying information removed. other then that it is un altered except for the part i underlined
We have not heard from you concerning your request for support in the 48 hours since we sent you a response. Consequently, we have changed the status of your question to SOLVED.
*Discussion Thread
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03/11/2012 05:38 PM
Dear "",
Thanks for reaching out to Motorola. I’ve reviewed your e-mail and I’m ready to help.
We do apologize for the inconvenience. Regarding your concerns, Motorola's primary focus is the security of our end users and protection of their data, while also meeting carrier, partner and legal requirements. The Droid Bionic and a majority of Android consumer devices on the market today have a secured bootloader.
In reference specifically to eFuse, the technology is not loaded with the purpose of preventing a consumer device from functioning, but rather ensuring for the user that the device only runs on updated and tested versions of software. If a device attempts to boot with unapproved software, it will go into recovery mode, and can re-boot once approved software is re-installed. Checking for a valid software configuration is a common practice within the industry to protect the user against potential malicious software threats. Motorola has been a long time advocate of open platforms and provides a number of resources to developers to foster the ecosystem including tools and access to devices for developers via Motodev at http://developer.motorola.com.
For the Android 4.0, at this time, we do not have any information if the phone will be updated to Android 4.0.
With your data connectivity concerns, please provide us with the following information so that we can assist you better.
1. Serial number of your device. On the phone's home screen go to Settings > About phone > Status > IMEI number.
You may also follow the link below on how to locate the serial number of your device.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/utils/guided_assistant/g_id/446
2. Software version of the phone.
On the phone's home screen go to Settings > About phone > System version
3. Your Contact number.
We hope that you find this information useful and we look forward to assisting you in the future.
For information about Motorola products and services, please visit us at http://www.motorola.com/
Thank you for contacting Motorola e-mail support.
Best Regards,
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03/09/2012 11:57 AM
Why didn't you unlock the Bionic's Bootloader with the last update. You have promised to make motorola's bootloaders unlockable. I started my cell phone adventure with motorola. I have had other phones also, Nokia, HTC, LG. But I wanted to go back to my roots and go back to motorla. Now I see that was a mistake. I had the original droid for my first android phone. Then I went to the HTC Droid Eris, HTC Droid Incredible, Samsung Fascinate, and now your piece of crap Droid Bionic. I have never had a phone that was so flawed. Not to mention you released the Razr just a couple months after the Bionic. I am now screwed. I have a worthless phone that still drops data even after you put out an update that was supposed to fix that issue for the next 2 years. I am going to be forced to return to HTC for my cellular needs. And in the process of changing over I will have to now spend over $500 Because of your locked bootloader, I now cannot make the modifications needed to make the phone useable for my needs and also I cannot fix your mistakes in the programming to make the phone stable. Now for my last question / segustion. Since the RAZR has been released, I know you will not make putting android 4.0 on the Bionic a priority. When will you be releasing the android 4.0 update for the Bionic?? Also, when you do, if you do finally release android 4.0 for the Bionic I segust that you make the bootloader unlockable. This way I am no longer restricted and forced to use your flawed software. Google's Android OS is a Open Source Project. Who are you to close it and restrict its usage and capabilities. In doing so you have forced the public to use a piece of equipment that is flawed with no way or means of correcting the issues.
To be honest, I cannot believe that Google has not reamed your asses and filed law suits against the companies that lock their bootloaders and do not offer a way to unlock. Even if it voids the manufacture warranty the option should still be there. Android is Open Source and why do you have the right to restrict it?!
To sum this up.
1: I want an explanation on your bootloader and I want it unlocked. (Believe me I am not the only one)
2: When will Android 4.0 be released on the Bionic?
3: Statement: I am about to leave Motorola for good. I have had the worst experience ever with this phone and I am now on my third phone which is on its way just because you cannot fix your Data Drop issue. I require a reliable phone for work and this phone has been all but that.
Thank You
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I'm not really sure how "we do not have any information" qualifies as confirming anything.
This is the link for their ICS upgrade schedule:
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
If you read the descriptions for each stage, they state that the early stage does not guarantee an update. The comment in the response email was a carefully prepared legal statement to avoid hinting at anything.
I would be surprised if we don't see an ICS update, though it's always possible that it wont happen.
For the Android 4.0, we do not have any information if the phone will be upgraded at this time.
In that statement they used if instead of when. That says to me that they promised ics and advertised the phone as ics upgradeable and now don't know if they are going to do it or not. The key word in this is if. If and when are 2 totally different words. The original question was when and they comeback with ( no info if phone will be upgraded.) It raises questions.
Side note: they advertise a phone as ics upgradeable, but once you buy it you find out that its not even available to download. One must wait and hope and prey that their device is not forgotten about because in just 3 months time a newer phone has been released. I'm not new to smartphones or rooting or roms. I know I have to wait before I even buy the phone but the general public that just uses phones and has no idea what rooting is has no idea that they are going to have to wait for the upgrade and have to worry that they will even get the upgrade. Bad advertising and miss leading I say. (Rant Over)
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Im pretty sure they will release ICS for Bionic. I mean all the newer Motorola Devices (I.E RAZR, Droid 4, Xyboard) run essentially the same hardware in different form, the Omap 4430. Assuming those phones get 4.0 then so should Bionic :s
Ask them this: What percent of revenue does each new Android product represent?
Then imagine what it would be like to reduce their earnings by the lose of one of those products such as the Bionic.
It all about the money!
Motorola's customer service has often said things contrary to the truth. Since the site still says an update is on the way, I tend to believe the site.
All there website says is evaulation and planning.. That does not mean much. It could stay evaluation and planning for the next year. How long does it honestly take to evaluate and plan? No developing stage yet? Wow... Look at the developers that are building ROMs across the spectrum for various phones and brands and yet Motorola can't even get a grip just on there own phones... stepping off my soapbox.
Quoting directly from the link provided to the Motorola site: "As previously communicated, DROID RAZR, DROID RAZR MAXX, DROID 4, DROID BIONIC, DROID XYBOARD 8.2 and 10.1, and MOTOROLA XOOM WiFI + 3G/4G will be upgraded to ICS. Additional details on timing for these products will be shared at a later date."
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Since I purchased this phone SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE it was advertised as it would be getting a version of ics 4.0, they will have to refund my money so I can get a phone that does run ics. It was critical to my purchase decision.
Do I hear a class action coming if they don't?
Personally I think they will release an ics upgrade as they have said and continue to say. Probably 2nd quarter this year. Development of mass stability is VERY difficult.
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Well I don't know if you guys/gals saw, but there was a leaked screenshot from a Best buy computer that shows the Razr and the Maxx receiving its ICS on the 4th of April. This was also confirmed by several emails that went out from Verizon stating there was going to be a software upgrade soon. Its typical they update the new phone first, but maybe its a sign we will get our update soon.
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Ya I saw it. Still not the bionic. If we get it I say it will be Oct or Nov before the bionic gets it and that's if it gets it.
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I think we'll get it, but definitely not anytime soon.
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Glad I've been running ICS for a couple months
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flascrnwrtr said:
Glad I've been running ICS for a couple months
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How's that running? I've heard there's a lot of bug in CM9 on the Bionic. That's why I went to Eclipse instead.
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Glad I've been running ICS for a couple months
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It's not fully-functioning ICS, and you have no video camera, no hw accel, half the games probably don't work right, etc.
I bet the devs we have would be able to port the RAZRs ICS to Bionic faster than Moto could develop it....
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It's not fully-functioning ICS, and you have no video camera, no hw accel, half the games probably don't work right, etc.
I bet the devs we have would be able to port the RAZRs ICS to Bionic faster than Moto could develop it....
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For me, I don't play games on my phone and since I work in film/TV, I don't shoot video with my phone either. What I do have is everything else, rock solid data and stable wifi. I haven't gone to my unsafe side since mid-Feb. My point was, you can have a very usable version now and, with the release of the official and full RAZR version, we will have a complete version for our Bionics, whether moto releases one or not.
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The Bionic is definitely getting the ICS update, just don't know when. I spoke to my cousin when I switched to Verizon to get some info on some phones since he's a developer for Motorola. He was able to get me a Bionic and told me that it will definitely get ICS. He just doesn't have a date for it since right now he's testing ICS on the Razr Maxx.
The list of Verizon and Moto ICS updates has been reviewed and revised a couple times, Bionic making the cut each time. I see it definitely getting the update. As far as Razr and Bionic go theres not a significant difference in source, which helps the Bionic out a lot when it comes to ICS
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We've had leaked versions from Motorola's staging servers since February, and Motorola sent out an invite to potential soak testers in March (which they have not yet acted on).
I don't really expect much out of an update other than kernel and radio updates (I get everything else from the awesome ROMs by our devs), but I'd still like to see something come out!!
So, with that in mind, please feel free to rant and speculate below.
I wouldn't be surprised with nothing coming in the future.
Because Motorola is a whore.
I've seen a couple of posts on various forums with peole receiving replacement or new Droid 3s that already have the 906 update installed. It's possible they've just decided to skip the soak test and are planning to push the update soon. Of couse this is entirely just speculation.
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We've had leaked versions from Motorola's staging servers since February, and Motorola sent out an invite to potential soak testers in March (which they have not yet acted on).
I don't really expect much out of an update other than kernel and radio updates (I get everything else from the awesome ROMs by our devs), but I'd still like to see something come out!!
So, with that in mind, please feel free to rant and speculate below.
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My replacement Droid 3 came with the .906 update already installed. Hopefully they'll roll it out soon so the fastboot files will leak
Cameron6472 said:
My replacement Droid 3 came with the .906 update already installed. Hopefully they'll roll it out soon so the fastboot files will leak
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My brother's replacement he got last week came with 890. Was kinda of happy about that since there's not way back from 906 last time i checked.
D2 and D4 Received Updates This Week
DroidForums.net reported on their Twitter feed that updates for the Droid 2 and Droid 4 rolled out on Monday and Wednesday, respectively. Hopefully we'll see something soon for our phone!
I hadn't seen that (but then again, I don't do much twitter so no surprise I guess
I am really considering just installing the 906 update anyway, but if this is coming soon I'd rather the official update.
linuxgator said:
I've seen a couple of posts on various forums with peole receiving replacement or new Droid 3s that already have the 906 update installed. It's possible they've just decided to skip the soak test and are planning to push the update soon. Of couse this is entirely just speculation.
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Are there really NEW new Droid 3's out there with .906? I can understand a refurb coming with it (due to some flaw in the refurb process where Moto forgets to do a true factory reset on a user-updated device). It's all speculative as you say, but that would be a good sign...
No
Might as well get started by making an official thread for the Motorola Software Upgrade page. I will be checking this page on a daily basis, so as soon as any official updates are posted you will be sure that this thread will be updated also.
Official Link: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
"We will review the status of upgrades and update this page on a monthly basis."
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October 1, 2012: Motorola has updated their page today, however there do not seem to be any noticeable changes made from the previous update.
September 29, 2012: Still no update on the Atrix HD front. However, Motorola has officially cancelled the ICS OTA update for the Atrix 4G, Photon 4G, and Electrify. These devices will remain on Gingerbread. A message from Punit Soni, the new software lead at Motorola, further details this decision:
Motorola Mobility continues to review how each device can deliver the very best experience possible, and at times, this can mean making tough choices – especially as it relates to Android software upgrades. Today, we need to let you know about some tough choices related to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich upgrades. Specifically, ATRIX 4G, Photon 4G and Electrify will not receive the ICS upgrade, but continue to be supported with maintenance releases to ensure optimum performance for the consumer.
We are committed to being more transparent than ever on our software upgrade strategy – even when we’re delivering news consumers may not want to hear. We are doing everything possible to continually improve our communication with you and make sure you are a satisfied customer. That’s why we recently announced our $100 rebate program for owners of these and other devices launched in 2011 and beyond that won’t get Android 4.1 Jelly Bean. This program starts in the U.S. this fall, and we are working to expand it to select regions around the world. Please watch for updates at motorola.com/tradeup.
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September 22, 2012: The Atrix HD has not yet been added to the software upgrade chart yet. No sign of Jelly Bean for anything aside from the Wi-Fi XOOM. We already know it's coming to the RAZR M and HD, but that's the extent of it at the moment. Further devices will likely be added in the future, however. On a separate note, let us mourn with our fellow Atrix brethren (Atrix 4G owners only - as of September 25, Atrix 2 US owners now have the ICS soak test underway) who may end up not seeing an official OTA release for ICS - their upgrade plans have been changed to "Future plans coming soon."
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Atrix 2 got official ICS few days ago. Only Atrix 4G which is still unknown.
I'm an ex-Atrix user. It's a shame if they can't keep their promise. Further plans can describe anything. I think they will skip ICS and leaping to JB.
Btw,Atrix HD should get JB in December.
huatz84 said:
Atrix 2 got official ICS few days ago. Only Atrix 4G which is still unknown.
I'm an ex-Atrix user. It's a shame if they can't keep their promise. Further plans can describe anything. I think they will skip ICS and leaping to JB.
Btw,Atrix HD should get JB in December.
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The Atrix 2 ICS OTA that you are referring to did not happen in the US yet. The US version of the phone has yet to receive an official rollout from Motorola/AT&T. I realize that in other regions the phone has received its update.
MagicXB said:
The Atrix 2 ICS OTA that you are referring to did not happen in the US yet. The US version of the phone has yet to receive an official rollout from Motorola/AT&T. I realize that in other regions the phone has received its update.
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Yeah..It's been available in some Asian countries. And it can be ported to custom ROM which can be used for all regions.
as long as the RAZR M series isnt on the list we're good... but if they add the M, HD MAXX, and not the atrix HD, we gotta make some serious noise
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as long as the RAZR M series isnt on the list we're good... but if they add the M, HD MAXX, and not the atrix HD, we gotta make some serious noise
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With powerful specs of Atrix HD,I'm pretty sure it won't be abandoned. JB is a must.
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huatz84 said:
With powerful specs of Atrix HD,I'm pretty sure it won't be abandoned. JB is a must.
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I believe Motorola said something about current phones getting jellybean and if they don't then they'll give you $100 to put towards one of the recently announced phones such as the razr m or something along those lines. I'll see if I can find the article. I'm going to say that the Atrix HD will be receiving the update, it's specs are more than capable and Motorola would be crazy to not do it, the Atrix series is pretty popular.
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Here's the article. http://androinica.com/2012/09/motor...ers/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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Once they find anything useful for Razr M or Razr HD such as rooting or cwm,I believe it can be used on our Atrix HD as well.
Android 5.1.1 is rolling out today. This thread is to discuss about the new android iteration.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...es-for-nexus-4-nexus-5-and-cellular-nexus-7s/
Nexus 5, 5.1.1 Factory image Download link: https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/hammerhead-lmy48b-factory-596bb9c1.tgz
OTA Download:
5.1 -> 5.1.1: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...itting-devices-here-are-the-direct-ota-links/
Guys, help to the Shenmue 3 kickstarter! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3
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I open this thread to discuss about the new android version 5.1 Lollipop. Info here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...roid-one-phones-coming-soon-to-nexus-devices/
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I'm really excited about 5.1 version, hope it will be something like Android 4.1 - much better Android 4.0.
pianistaPL said:
I'm really excited about 5.1 version, hope it will be something like Android 4.1 - much better Android 4.0.
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That was ICS to JB this is still lollipop, i dont know if that makes a difference though.
Besides bug fixes and minor tweaks, i don't foresee anything that Android could come out with that would blow my mind.
Everything that could be done with a rom seems to have been accomplished. Now it's all just fancy bells and whistles on who can look prettier.
hope bug fixes
More news:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...oth-connections-from-the-quick-settings-menu/
Hopefully RAM management will be fixed.
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we are supposed to get silent mode back right. thats an additional feature being added not a bug fix.
According to Android Pit, yes, Silent Mode is back!
Silent mode added after missing on Android 5.0
General improvements in system stability
Improved RAM management
Fixes for sudden app closures
Improved battery management
Excessive consumption of network devices when used Wi-Fi fixed
Issues with wireless connections fixed
Problems with Okay Google function solved
Notifications problems solved
Some sound problems experience by certain devices fixed
Other improvements and changes
Changes in the Material Design color palette (after users complaints, possibly for a higher version though)
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::edit:: these are rumors and not actual changes. Sorry. Silent mode is up in the air.
I'll be happy with some RAM/Battery management, but I doubt it comes too soon since we haven't got 5.0.2 yet.
As you can see 5.0.2 it´s only for tablets....
Definitely looking forward to ram & battery improvements!
Wooooow! I can't wait!
i can't wait. i hope it also fixes the gps issues that 5.0 brought to my phone (as well as a few others). I've had to roll back to kk for now
I expect a better manage for battery, since I have android 5.0.1 it consumes a lot of energy and drains my battery
Still waiting on the Camera2 API being put to use. I Wonder if this will be the first step before an update to the Google Camera app
Is there any clue as to when 5.1 could arrive? Now the news is in the open and the software seems operational, would it be a matter of days, weeks or months to arrive on Nexuses...?
Goldenrooster said:
Is there any clue as to when 5.1 could arrive? Now the news is in the open and the software seems operational, would it be a matter of days, weeks or months to arrive on Nexuses...?
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It´s seems it will be available this month.
Sadly i don't think 5.1 brings any fix to memory leak and battery life. cos from 4.4.4 to 5.0 brings no improvements except material design. i don't want to rise my expectations cos i don't want big dissapointments.
Lol WTF man?