Database Develop

Root while retaining official OTA path?

Enjoyed the XDA Noob Video, but still have a noob question. Searched and couldn't find anything directly addressing this. Would have posted in the appropriate thread: R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R root for the BIONIC v2.1, but "New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums."
I am completely stock .886. This is my first android phone. After a lot of research, I decided that I want to root in order to freeze some of the Verizon pre-installed bloat with Titanium back-up and to be able to use other root required apps like PS3 Sixaxis Controller app. I don't plan on installing any custom ROMs, as I'm happy with stock moto one for now.
If I root using "option #2" of the R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R root, will I be able to retain the official OTA update path as long as I don't install/update anything via cheesecake or any custom ROMs?

lykofos said:
Enjoyed the XDA Noob Video, but still have a noob question. Searched and couldn't find anything directly addressing this. Would have posted in the appropriate thread: R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R root for the BIONIC v2.1, but "New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums."
I am completely stock .886. This is my first android phone. After a lot of research, I decided that I want to root in order to freeze some of the Verizon pre-installed bloat with Titanium back-up and to be able to use other root required apps like PS3 Sixaxis Controller app. I don't plan on installing any custom ROMs, as I'm happy with stock moto one for now.
If I root using "option #2" of the R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R root, will I be able to retain the official OTA update path as long as I don't install/update anything via cheesecake or any custom ROMs?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can install custom roms and they wont update your kernel or radio. So if your. 886 and install a .893 based rom you will still have the. 886 kernel and radio. To change that you have to go completely stock and use one of Motorola's updates. Like through cheesecake.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA App

also if you freeze any apps you will have to unfreeze the in order to get the update. just keep an eye out on xda for when the update has been sent. then just unfreeze apps and install update.

Thanks for the info! I went ahead and rooted. Backing up with bionic bootstrap now and then freezing some bloat. Glad I rooted, there are some pretty cool root apps for android.

Is the official update able to be rooted

I went back to stock from liberty so i could install the official update. In the process of installing the update, i lost root. Am i able to reroot or am I stuck for the time being. I know i should have used the forever root, but i didn't. I just want to know if I'm able to root again or am i stuck for the time being. I really hope i can but if i cant, i will live with it.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA App

same here. I went from Shift3r to stock, flashed the update, lost root, now can't seem to re-root.

Yes, most ppl are reporting that it works - you may have to yr twice, and after the phone rebooted the first time after applying the update, it's not a bad idea to reboot it again manually before starting anything.

So I definitely forever rooted before applying the update and lost root after the update as well... I really hope that I don't have to flash back to re-root and then take the update again...

Lost root
I was on stock 886, rooted. I flashed forever root and updated, but still lost root. Then I flashed back to 886 and now I can't seem to re-root. Rawr!

root is possible after update
follow "dfib"s manual method to get root back:
copy and paste: androidforums.com/bionic-all-things-root/460668-can-i-re-root-after-5-8-894-broke-root.html[/url]
I had a never rooted droid bionic that received the OTA update and try to get root with Pete's Motorola Root Tools and R3l3AS3DRoot and both failed multiple times so i tried the manual method to gain root and it worked!
-as always make sure you run command prompt as "admin"
-and highlight code to make sure you include all "spaces" (some are hard to see)
-when extracting exploit.zip extract to desktop
happy rooting

Yep, I followed dfib's instructions (although credit goes to P3) and it worked perfectly!

Will Pete's unroot work or will you have to manually unroot?

Thanks. I was really upset the first time i lost my data network after installing the update that was supposed to fix that and was the only reason i installed it.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA App

fast50shannon said:
Will Pete's unroot work or will you have to manually unroot?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pete's will only work on .886

smokedkill said:
Thanks. I was really upset the first time i lost my data network after installing the update that was supposed to fix that and was the only reason i installed it.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I still lost my network as well after update. I always had HTC phones prior to this. Next year I'm diching the Motorola junk and going back to HTC. I never had issues with HTC whether it was Windows Mobile or Android.
---------- Post added at 10:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:12 PM ----------
vzzoom said:
follow "dfib"s manual method to get root back:
copy and paste: androidforums.com/bionic-all-things-root/460668-can-i-re-root-after-5-8-894-broke-root.html[/url]
I had a never rooted droid bionic that received the OTA update and try to get root with Pete's Motorola Root Tools and R3l3AS3DRoot and both failed multiple times so i tried the manual method to gain root and it worked!
-as always make sure you run command prompt as "admin"
-and highlight code to make sure you include all "spaces" (some are hard to see)
-when extracting exploit.zip extract to desktop
happy rooting
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This worked! XDA Forum is just the most awesome of all times. I reopened my Titanium and it prompted the superuser for me to grant access. I'm rooted again!

Says my SU Binary is out of date in Superuser, and force closes when trying to update the SU Binary. When I try to update Superuser, it says the signature doesn't match. And SU Update Fixer keeps failing. Is there another way that I can update the Superuser.
Update:
Tried the process again, and this time, I cannot get past "./zerg". Says cannot copy boomsh permission denied.
Root Check says I am rooted though. I think the Superuser is the problem
Second Update: For whatever reason, after doing the above, R3L3AS3DRoot worked and got me rooted and Superuser working properly. It pushed the sytem back to before I updated also.

Rooting question's please assist...

So I've had my d4 since the release date. I have only rooted two phones no roms nothing special. I read the posts on this form just about every day been through just about all of them. I just want a simple root to remove all the junk. If I use the d4 utility to root will safe strap be installed? After root can I still get the OTA updates with out doing anything special, or something simple like a mere unroot that is in the utility? In the event that I need to send it in will the steps listed in another post suffice? Please assist I really want to root, but I love this phone and have never paid so much for any phone...
Sent from my DROID4 using XDA

nah, you dont have to do anything special
i used the motofail to root, and froze all the bloatware with root uninstaller
when the time came i unfroze everything, unrooted, installed the 219 patch
and re-rooted

Definitely freeze apps instead of deleting them. Otherwise an OTA update will fail. Also, use Voodoo OTA Root Keeper to preserve root access after an update. While I believe current exploits work on the latest update, there's no guarantee they will continue to work with future updates.

Three questions regarding root and the OTA

So, I got my Moto X on Verizon today. The OTA started downloading already. Luckily, I turned off all data before it could finish downloading (it's at 8% now). Obviously, I can't connect to data 'cause it will automatically start to download.
I want to root though. I know I'm supposed to use PwnMyMoto. However, I know that the OTA breaks root. I've read around all the posts--and I can't seem to find a conclusive way to keep root on the OTA after gaining it; each post I read says something different.
Additional piece of info: I don't care about anything regarding custom ROMs or the bootloader. I intend to keep the stock ROM, but use Xposed.
So, my three questions:
1) Is it okay to root even though the download of the OTA has started?
2) What is the conclusive way to keep root for the OTA?
3) After rooting, how would I go about returning everything back to stock? (I plan on using this phone for a next week or so, then returning it--this is because of the price drops and MotoMaker for Verizon coming out soon; at this stage, I just want to know if this phone is right for me).
Thanks for all the help in advance.

Just boot into Recovery and wipe data\cache and dalvick this will reset your phone. Then resetup your phone, the OTA will come back up, tell the OTA to REMIND you about it, not download it. Then use pwnmymoto to get root, and then just freeze the OTA downloader (MotorolaOTA.apk). Continue to use your phone, customize it with xposed etc etc. When you want to return it, use RSDLite and flash the stock FXZ file to it its totally back to stock again out of the box.

Am I too late?
I have the update on my phone, but would want to root it. I have the moto x on verizon it's not the developers edition.

No need to wipe data. You can root while the download goes then install ROM toolbox and delete the update from your cache and freeze the moto updater.apk and updater.apk to stop the notification. As for.rooting the update I think jcase said install pwnmymoto but don't run it then update. But IMO its not worth it cause if anything gets messed up you get updated and loose the opportunity to root.
---------- Post added at 08:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:06 PM ----------
enigmaco said:
I have the update on my phone, but would want to root it. I have the moto x on verizon it's not the developers edition.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you installed the update your SOL. If its just downloaded your OK to root.

I ended up not accepting the update. I'm not going to either. If by the time I return this phone I deem it worthy of a replacement for my GNexus--then I'll worry about root and the OTA. This is awesome stuff.

shane1 said:
No need to wipe data. You can root while the download goes then install ROM toolbox and delete the update from your cache and freeze the moto updater.apk and updater.apk to stop the notification. As for.rooting the update I think jcase said install pwnmymoto but don't run it then update. But IMO its not worth it cause if anything gets messed up you get updated and loose the opportunity to root.
---------- Post added at 08:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:06 PM ----------
If you installed the update your SOL. If its just downloaded your OK to root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Had a feeling oh well missed the boat again.

How to Disable OTA on Rooted Note 4 with TWRP?

Hi...
So I rooted my Note 4 and installed custom recovery TWRP. Before I did, I postponed an update (OTA) for the phone to 1 AM PST.
After rooting...the Notifications still show
"T-mobile Update Service" with that rectangular icon... and underneath says "Update Postponed"
Now...I thought installing TWRP should BLOCK OTA automatically...is something going ot go horribly wrong at 1 AM PST and will it try to install Lollipop on my Note 4 anyways?
Please help!!

BUMP

Have a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2919543
---------- Post added at 03:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:54 PM ----------
From that thread
I am on the NJ7 and can confirm any update check comes back with the "custom software, no updates for you" message.

Does it apply to ANK4? Unlike that poster - update check works for me...and it works a little too good and provides what is in each log.

Maybe it's because you rooted in a funny way?

Are you saying that rooting via the SuperSU UPDATE .zip and recovery is "funny?" I don't understand what's so funny about it. It's another method that isn't revolved around some auto-flash option.

It's still why you're getting ota's
---------- Post added at 02:18 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:17 AM ----------
How'd you do it anyway? Abd?

What does CFAuto Root do differently that "blocks" OTAs? Just wondering what logical reasoning this is based on

I flashed TWRP with Odin - then I used UPDATE SUPERSU v2.6 .zip and installed via recovery. That was it. Launched SuperSU and it worked.

It looks more like you rooted the phone.
Custom binary, etc.
Are you sure you're rooted?
You can use rooted apps, etc.?
Did you trip Knox?
---------- Post added at 02:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:25 AM ----------
Ota's won't go to rooted phones.

Yes. I am rooted. Is the method I did archaic or something? lol. I have SuperSU. I granted several apps root access - I have TWRP installed -and I used RootChecker and granted it access and it confirmed I have root as well.
Tripped knox...more than likely..not sure how to check
I rooted AFTER I got update notifications of TWO updates...perhaps a fluke?
Thank you for all your help )

It's fun talking with somebody with phone skills.
Just never saw anybody skip the cf-autoroot step.
Me.
I don't get the update notifications cause I'm lost in rom land.

You could probably kill the update process with titanium.

I'm just glad I'm finally getting some answers. I've been rooting across very different types of phones for a while, but each new release has its own weird...little grouped up programs and auto stuff. I tend to avoid all auto-solutions and opt for manual as possible.
what do you think about my deal with OTA? I didn't actually check for updates...its the same updates before root that are being notified to me

This search may help
http://www.google.com/search?site=&......1c..64.mobile-gws-hp..0.1.54.3.ehLqx9i8kTc
I've never run stock rooted for more than a day.
But, I know people stop the update nagging thing.

I uninstalled fotaclient.apk (one of the update's names) - along with the other update (incsyncmdl or something) and lastly FWUpgrade.apk.
I backed up Incsync and FWUpgrade..but not fotaclient. Say for purposes - i actually want to update or restore that...how would I find FOTAClient.apk again?
I guess it's no biggy..just breaks the in-phone updater...but still allows me to flash like normal unrooted stock roms in the future via Odin anyways

How are you uninstalling?
With titanium you can just freeze and then unthaw later.
But, you can always pull the apks out of one of the stockish roms in the Android development section.

I don't see the .apks in the Stock ANK4 rom. just recovery.img, boot.img and some unopenable .bin files...

bump.