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Hi Everyone,
I live in Toronto and I am on Fido right now. I also have a Bell SIM that I use from time to time. It seems that Rogers has Galaxy Samsung Note I717.
What would be the best move for me? Buy a more expensive N-7000 or a I717?
I think N-7000 is not LTE compatible with Fido? (correct me if I am wrong).
I am also very interested in Ice Cream sandwich and heard all updates and better apps will be released only for N-7000 or sooner for it. Is that true?
Thanks
torontobc said:
Hi Everyone,
I live in Toronto and I am on Fido right now. I also have a Bell SIM that I use from time to time. It seems that Rogers has Galaxy Samsung Note I717.
What would be the best move for me? Buy a more expensive N-7000 or a I717?
I think N-7000 is not LTE compatible with Fido? (correct me if I am wrong).
I am also very interested in Ice Cream sandwich and heard all updates and better apps will be released only for N-7000 or sooner for it. Is that true?
Thanks
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I SHALL SAVE YOU!
I'm on fido (NO LTE, HSDPA+ gives around 7.9 Mbsp down 1.7 Mbsp up), and recently bought a N7000. My thoughts to you are:
1) Do you need LTE? Yes -> I717
2) Stock experience with ICS coming sooner rather than later -> N7000
3) Performance -> I've tried both the N7000 and I717 and I'd say the N7000 runs a TINY bit better. Benchmarks are over-exaggerated.
Also, N7000 development is much better ATM, which is understandable - it's an older phone. So, if you like playing with custom roms, that might perhaps be another point worth considering.
Edited: this thread might also be of interest to the OP.
Thanks guys.
So, I don't use LTE either but am disappointed that I can't full-proof the future with a N-7000 version as I am leaning more towards that too.
Got following questions now:
A- ICS is not released for it yet right?
B- I get H+ on my phone, that is 4G or HSPA+ and not LTE right?
C- What about rooting Galaxy Note? N-7000 or I717?
D- What is a better phone than Note now? Galaxy S II? or yet better than that?
Thanks again,
torontobc said:
Thanks guys.
So, I don't use LTE either but am disappointed that I can't full-proof the future with a N-7000 version as I am leaning more towards that too.
Got following questions now:
A- ICS is not released for it yet right?
B- I get H+ on my phone, that is 4G or HSPA+ and not LTE right?
C- What about rooting Galaxy Note? N-7000 or I717?
D- What is a better phone than Note now? Galaxy S II? or yet better than that?
Thanks again,
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A)There is a leaked unofficial version and AOSP based roms right now. Official ICS is coming in Q2.
B)Yes, that is "4G/HSPA+"
C)Both are easy to root, if you have rooted Android phones before, no need of ADB to root.
D)Right now, the N-7000 is the best phone b/c of it's screen size and resolution. The only phones to compare would be the Optimus LTE, Galaxy Nexus, and Sony Experia S(Super High PPI). Honestly, I would wait until the SIII comes out if you're this late into the year as Quad-Core phones are coming around the corner and you can future-proof yourself better this way.
Thanks Kotaro_14.
I am afraid no one else do a big screen like Note anytime soon and it's such a beautiful phone that I am in love with it now
But, low battery, no ICS is a turn off.
I thought screen size and resolution are the same on both version except for having different graphic card chips?!
Best,
torontobc said:
Thanks Kotaro_14.
I am afraid no one else do a big screen like Note anytime soon and it's such a beautiful phone that I am in love with it now
But, low battery, no ICS is a turn off.
I thought screen size and resolution are the same on both version except for having different graphic card chips?!
Best,
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N7000 has physical buttons that don't waste screen estate like the i717.
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N7000 have the better cpu if compare to N1717
LTE is overrated until carrier start rolling out $20 unlimited data plan, which definitely will not happen before we see the next "note" HSPA+ in my area is doing 7mbps RL. There is virtually no difference between the two based on what I do with my Note. Not to mention LTE cut your battery life by an enormous margin. I would not bother even if my phone has it.
I know Galaxy SIII is around the corner and probably has quad processor. But the main reason I dump iphone for Note is because of the screen size. Making mobile task much easier. Unless SIII had 5.3" screen, it is not for me. Should you wait for SIII? Well, if you can wait... Usually mean that you dont need it....
Honestly, I really dont know how a quad core cpu / gpu will improve user experience. You can port the most demanding game to Galaxy SIII or even CAD program, but you will still be limited to the 4~5 ish [email protected]@ those with gigantic fingers or guerrilla palms are going to be sh!t out of luck
Well the reason for me to wait for the SIII is that with a more powerful GPU and CPU a port for Windows 8 will probably come along and that's what really interests me. And of course Ubuntu also. I agree the screen size won't be as big as the Note, but I'm willing to get it b/c of huge dev community, probably fix the black clipping issue, and SAMOLED+. Of course the Note 2 is also another option.
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+1 i like xda-developers
There was an OpenMonko or OpenMoko project just prior to Android that did Linux on the DIY hardware but it died with Android coming out. I think expectations from phones are way too much now that it requires it's own separate OS fork like Android.
Thanks for all the info guys. I am leaning towards N-7000 now. Hate the no warranty though.
I had the i717 for a few weeks. Honestly ran great. Played 8-bit 720p mkv vids no problem. I saw a few quirks with 10-bit mkv files, but I'm unsure as to whether I should attribute that to the video player (moboplayer) or the chipset.
I rooted and flashed it over to SAUROM on day one. I didn't have too many performance issues, though it somewhat stuttered trying to run Ocarina of Time, moreso than my Atrix did.
I don't have LTE down here in my part of Florida, US, and I don't expect to see it any time soon. I wish I had a few tags to toy with the NFC, I really would've liked to have tossed one in my car dock.
My reason for returning was mostly the cost of phone + AT&T service. Monthly prices were more than I calculated, and I thought it in my best interest to pick up the phone elsewhere for cheaper while using a prepaid service. I found no real fault with the phone itself.
I just ordered an n7000 from Expansys US. It should arrive tomorrow. Apparently Expansys has a European office to help with claims on Samsung's 2-year warranty. Moreover, their price for a new n7000 with Samsung car charger and next-day shipping still came out to $100 less than trying to buy a brand new i717 here in the States. I won't be able to compare performance until it's in my hands, but the consensus seems to be that the n7000 offers a bit more performance, especially on ICS.
I'm trying to decide between the n7000 and the i717 myself. I'm currently on Verizon but am looking to escape Big Red.
The N7000 obviously is a bit faster, from the benchmarks it seems mostly on higher end 3D stuff that the N7000 is faster than the I717. I like the design of the N7000 better as well, and unlocked aspect appeals to me considering the carrier problems I've had. From the sound of it the ROM situation sounds better, which also appeals to me.
My main concern here is carrier. T-mo is out as I don't want to be stuck with 2G. AT&T worries me though, some people have been using the $50 Gophone unlimited plan, but it sounds like if AT&T finds out it's a smart phone you're out of luck, and the data plan options for pre-paid are expensive last I looked.
The plus side of the I717 is that I can get it on contract and defray the up front cost. Plus I don't have to worry about figuring out what kind of plan I can use on the International version. I also get a corporate discount of 20-22% on AT&T but it doesn't apply to the prepaid or "GoPhone" plans. A typical plan (450 min, unlimited texting, 3gb data) would probably run me about $77/mo after tax.
I'd be tempted to go N7000 and get a normal plan from AT&T and skip the Gophone hassles, but I refuse to sign a 2 year contract and I don't know if they'll allow you to be on a normal plan if you don't sign a contract. I know T-mo won't.
So opinions, what would you folks do in my situation? N7000 with normal plan, N7000 with Gophone, or I717 with normal plan?
You can reflash the modem of the i717 for full 3G compatibility on T-mobile AWS bands, so that might be an advantage over the n7000. Moreover, with the recent Skyrocket ICS leak, I'd expect to see some sort of ICS on the i717 within the next couple of weeks.
If you're not overly concerned about warranty, I'd honestly recommend picking up an i717 on Craigslist/eBay and taking it to a prepaid AT&T MVNO like Red Pocket or Straight Talk. If you're in an area where T-Mobile offers better service, eBay can get you an unlock code for $25, then just flash the proper modem and head to T-Mo prepaid or Simple Mobile. Either way, you're looking at $45-60 a month.
While performance may be marginally better on the n7000, I found the i717 to be in no way lacking after two weeks of use. The biggest deciding factors for me was cost. I wanted the security of a manufacturer's warranty, and Expansys offered a new n7000 for less than I could pick up an i717 here.
Hmm, I'd never heard of Red Pocket. It appears they have coverage anywhere AT&T does. The $60 for unlimited talk/text/2gb data is appealing and I'd not have to worry about contracts and such...
If you're looking into the MVNOs, I've heard Jolt Mobile offers better service than Red Pocket at the same price. Either way, Red Pocket apparently has the nasty issue where, if you try to re-up your plan a few days early, you lose the last few days of the plan and the new billing cycle starts up the day you pay. I've heard of no such issue with Jolt.
I'm personally opting for Straight Talk next month. They recently started offering sim cards for their AT&T and T-Mobile services. They market an "unlimited everything" plan for $45/month, but the truth is if you go over 100MB a day, you risk them cutting off your service. That's not an issue for me, as I don't even hit 100MB a week, but some users prefer the comfort of using 2GB whenever/however they want. If you go over with RP/Jolt, they just cut off data until the next month.
Moreover, Straight Talk is one of the few AT&T MVNOs to get access to AT&T's roaming partners. Most others are limited to just the AT&T towers. It's something to consider if you travel a lot.
As of now, none of them have access to AT&T's LTE service, so regardless of the device you choose, you'd be limited to HSPA+ service, which really isn't a bad "limit" at all. If you're concerned about battery life, SAUROM for the i717 is based on the Canadian i717 ROM, and it gives you the option to turn LTE off. Obviously not an issue with the n7000.
I think I'm just going to suck it up and get the I717... I have my eyes on an amp for my home theater and it pretty well goes out the window for lack of funds if I get the N7000. Hopefully AT&T doesn't sit on the ICS upgrade for too long compared to the N7000.
If I didn't get a discount for service through my employer it would probably be a different story.
That and with my luck I'd have to ship the thing back to the UK for warranty service when something went wrong with it...
Thanks for your input guys.
Ruh roh... it looks like AT&T is going to be a pain about my credit. Odd since Verizon and T-mo never had any issues (though T-mo made me pay a $50 deposit).
I may have to go International after all.
Been toying with the n7000 that came in today.
Handles videos like a champ, but not much better than the i717. 8bit 720p mkvs still fly, thanks to hardware decoding. 10bit 720p mkvs resort to software decoding and stutter.
I've tried two video players for the 10bit video. MoboPlayer plays them full-speed, but there are plenty of graphical glitches like color wash out and excessive blockiness. MX Video Player plays without graphical issue, but video is somewhat slow and stuttery. I'm hoping an overclock kernel will help.
Ocarina of Time ran more smoothly than it did on my i717. Still not entirely smooth, but definitely playable.
As far as functionality, LTE was always out of the question, but I apparently traded the NFC chip for an fm radio. That's actually worthwhile to me, as I attend several events over the year that broadcast audio over local fm.
I am -not- enjoying this home button. I've got fairly large hands, so I haven't had much issue using the Note one-handedly. The issue is with the capacitive buttons. Since I hold the Note in my left hand, on the i717, I could comfortably reach the Menu, Home, and Back buttons with my left thumb. I never used the Search button. On the n7000, what used to be the Back button is now the edge of the Home button, and the Back button is pushed further to the side. It's not entirely unreachable, but it's very uncomfortable. Then again, most users here probably have hands smaller than mine, so your mileage may vary.
I'll be toying with ROMs tomorrow, but quick glance tells me the ICS roms aren't as stable as I'd prefer, so I'll hold off on those for a bit.
So yeah, if I had to compare the two right now:
i717: LTE, NFC, more comfortable Capacitive button layout
n7000: FM Radio, Cheaper New (unless ordering 32GB model), better Emulator performance
Both handle movies amazingly well. While the n7000 definitely has more ROM options now, that'll fix itself in time, and what's currently available for the i717 is good quality. ICS should follow shortly.
I am thinking of getting a HTC One. But, after seeing the spec sheet of Snapdragon, comparing the Snapsragon 600 (used in HTC One) vs the Snapdragon 800 the latter seems to be far better than the 600 series. Also, in the spec sheet the SD 600 is categorized under mid-high end phones, where the SD 800 is intended for super premium phones, tablets and smart tv's. Source: Spec sheet and Qualcomm Press Release
So, I'd like to know your opinions. Should I go for the HTC One, which seems a great phone overall, just not the best possible SOC (but great enough for a phone I reckon), or should I wait for one of the first Snapdragon 800 devices?
These days no matter which phone you buy, few months later something better will get released.
And besides that, at the moment snapdragon s4 pro is best soc available(until htc one comes out) and snapdragon 600 is suppose to be 40% better in performances, so I would definitely go for it...
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I don't think we will see the 800 on phones at least not until a new chip can beat the 600.....
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at this point i honestly feel like phones don't really have a need to get any faster for day-to-day usage. it's more about software features. 1080p is nice, but it's not a MUST HAVE over a 720p. snapdragon 800 is a great bonus if you're in the market for a smartphone when it comes out, but getting the s4 pro or the 600 will probably not give you any lag or speed problems. i mostly root and install stock android on most of my phones so the 2 things i always look for are:
1. battery life
2. design
that's it. though i wonder if i'd rather stay on htc sense if i ever get an htc phone. everyone always bashes it but i find sense to be extremely good looking (even better than stock).
S800 will come around Q4..And there isno end to it.I am sure when it comes out there will be talksof anoher high end soc..S900 maybe..Its only bcoz u know about it that you are waiting..you should not wait and besides s600 is blazingly fast and the fastest chip so far!
after the S800 the S900 then the S1000 etc... every few months there will be something newer and faster just like dual core, quad core and now the supposed 8core chips that are being developed or already developed ... as well as the SGS3 then SGS4 then SGS5 , note 3, then note 4 etc.. you get the idea if you wait for the newer thing thats "about to come out" then your gonna always end up waiting and never have anything ...
Since I get a new phone every 2 years I could wait a couple of months for better, newer hardware though. SD800 devices are said to use Quick Charge 2.0 and Voice activation, which are ONLY available only for the SD800 devices. I read somewhere that there are already 55 SD800 devices in the works (source), so waiting a couple more months for a significant performance boost, even lower battery drain, and charging the battery up to 75% faster seems logical to me. (Not to mention encode/decode of 4K HD content, 50% boost in graphics and 100% boost in performance due to Adreno 330, 50% faster LTE bandwidth and clocked to 2,3GHz) Those are a lot of high percentages! Voice activation could be interesting, but I rarely use voice so that's not a big deal for me. Maybe in the future when Google Now becomes available in the Netherlands though.
The comments are understandable that you should not wait for the next best thing as you will end up having nothing. But a few more months for such a performance and feature boost, to me, is a better insurance my phone will keep up the next 2 years (hardware wise).
But thanks again for the replies!
Well, I've had early access to one running a final build in Canada. If it's performance you're worried about; I've ran Nenamark 2 on it, and it never went below 60 FPS. The result was 60.2 average.
The only major thing that could have made me wait though is the quicker charging feature, however I mostly charge my devices at night so charging times makes little difference to me.
Don't take my word for it though, I'm biased towards the One. I've been following it since it was just a rumor and had already pre-ordered it.
Its the most poerful device rite now..what else do u want? Evn s4 wont be that big a difference..and plasticky
Life is short, buy the best one that is offered in the given moment!
LorD ClockaN said:
Life is short, buy the best one that is offered in the given moment!
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LC, will we see your work on hTC One??
I'm definitely getting 600 snapdragon and past 800,1200. And getting 1600. LOL. There's always gonna be a better phone, I'm not gonna wait forever.
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i take now, is away more powerfull than my gs3 and better construction
HTC One + will be out in a couple of months after the S4 release, as HTC always does.
And XDA will be there to make sure there would be no difference between the two (maybe apart from storage).
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And XDA will be there to make sure there would be no difference between the two (maybe apart from storage).
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Well, 'no difference' would be a little weird since they always upgrade something in the hardware department, otherwise it's just the same phone. I'm still hoping HTC will release a new One model, like the One+, but hopefully with the SD800 (and all the perks that go with it). That would be the perfect phone I think..
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Well, 'no difference' would be a little weird since they always upgrade something in the hardware department, otherwise it's just the same phone. I'm still hoping HTC will release a new One model, like the One+, but hopefully with the SD800 (and all the perks that go with it). That would be the perfect phone I think..
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Until a couple of months down the line when something else that makes us drool is released.
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S800 will come around Q4..And there isno end to it.I am sure when it comes out there will be talksof anoher high end soc..S900 maybe..Its only bcoz u know about it that you are waiting..you should not wait and besides s600 is blazingly fast and the fastest chip so far!
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According to some rumours there may be S800 phones out as early as July. I don't think anyone really knows.
I say you wait, that's what I'm doing. Q4 we are going to see the snapdragon 800 and tegra 4, hell we might even see the Exynos 5 make its way to America maybe in the next Note (assuming it becomes LTE compatible). but these processors far out class what you would be getting in the One or S4, so what's 3 months.
And the Results are? :::drum roll:::
Greetings, Bramgg. After Googling the SAME question... it brought me to your post and this forum. I was fascinated by some of the insightful comments you got on this post, Bramgg. i'm a AT&T customer in the US and unless i plan on losing my fishing partner (and more importantly his boat!! lol) i'm pretty locked in with my service provider! Lol.
I currently am using an HTC Vivid (pausing for those reading this to groan) and i'm primarily still using that phone because i have been dragging my feet waiting for the Snapdragon 800. i happen to REALLY like HTC even though i can't deny the sluggish performance and lag times on the Vivid have been verrrry frustrating. I guess my frustration is part of the reason i have dragged my feet in selecting a new phone but honestly, i can't take it any more!! i need a new phone.... hopefully in the next few days.
I have a real fascination with the Snapdragon 800... and am curious if you waited for it or went with the 600 as you were contemplating? Are you pleased with the speed? This is kind of embarrassing to admit on an advanced user forum but i'm not even aware if the 800 is out yet and available on HTC devices. I'm not completely locked into HTC i guess, but i do like the 'Shortcut to Four Apps' feature on the lock screen and i do think they build a high quality phone compared to many of the other companies who flood the market with phones and discontinue them three months later.
Thanks in advance for any help you or others reading this can provide... i'm very anxious to have a phone that responds more quickly.
Steven
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Shadow, I'm fascinated (and slightly jealous! lol) of your knowledge on processors. i told Bramgg (in a post below on this thread) a few details about what i'm contemplating and why. May i get your thoughts please... when time permits, of course. i suppose i could wait a week or so if something specific had already been announced but i'm not sure i can wait much longer for a new device as i'm verrrrrry frustrated with the lagging on the HTC Vivid. The Vivid has a 1.2 GHz dualcore processor with 1GB of memory... but it's not cutting it. Texts, Apps opening... all verry slow.
Thanks in advance.
Steven
shadowxaero said:
I say you wait, that's what I'm doing. Q4 we are going to see the snapdragon 800 and tegra 4, hell we might even see the Exynos 5 make its way to America maybe in the next Note (assuming it becomes LTE compatible). but these processors far out class what you would be getting in the One or S4, so what's 3 months.
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Hi guys,
I'm considering buying a new phone. I am interested in Note 2. But it is out of budget. Do you guys think, Note 1 is viable option? I want a phone that works. I am absolutely pissed at my current phone. It lags.
I want to know if it is a good option to buy Note 1 in 2013? Does games run smoothly? And last, how is the developer support?
Thanks for taking time to read it. Looking forward for replies.
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Firstly, this is a question so it should go in the Q&A section. But whatever.
Secondly, regarding your question.
You're complaining about how your phone is laggy and after following this thread for a while, I wouldn't recommend getting the Note for a "lag-free" phone.
Here's why:
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Screen Resolution will always have an impact on performance. The more pixels to display, the harder the GPU has to work. Given the note has a significantly higher resolution than the Galaxy S2 while running the same GPU (and pretty much the same hardware overall), its unlikely you'll see the same graphics performance between the two devices.
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vegetables said:
They got the same chipset, and that's exactly the problem, that's why the note is always laggy unlike the incredible smoothness on S2 , you r comparing:
- 480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches (~217 ppi pixel density) ~> S2
TO
- 800 x 1280 pixels, 5.3 inches (~285 ppi pixel density) ~> Note 1
How could the same chipset handle bigger screen, higher resolution and more ppi ?
And even with CM kernel, it even laggs more and more
The solution? ~> buy Note 2 xD
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If you're looking for a phone that doesn't lag, I would recommend the Nexus 4.
If you're looking for a phone with a big screen, Samsung recently announced the Galaxy Mega series, although they have mid-range specs.
If you're wanting a high-end phone, but aren't willing to pay the high-price tag... well... you get what you pay for.
I was keen on getting Nexus 4 but it's not available in India. Btw, my current phone is Motorola Defy. It's terrible to say the least. All I want to know if it will function lag free in day to day performance and some gaming?
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little-vince said:
Firstly, this is a question so it should go in the Q&A section. But whatever.
Secondly, regarding your question.
You're complaining about how your phone is laggy and after following this thread for a while, I wouldn't recommend getting the Note for a "lag-free" phone.
Here's why:
If you're looking for a phone that doesn't lag, I would recommend the Nexus 4.
If you're looking for a phone with a big screen, Samsung recently announced the Galaxy Mega series, although they have mid-range specs.
If you're wanting a high-end phone, but aren't willing to pay the high-price tag... well... you get what you pay for.
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i dont really understand the " buy note 2 " thing. because it has the same gpu as the note 1.
note 1 is still a worthy device to have because at present it can run every app that is in the play store.
but soon it will not be enough.
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No!
rashsalmn said:
Hi guys,
I'm considering buying a new phone. I am interested in Note 2. But it is out of budget. Do you guys think, Note 1 is viable option? I want a phone that works. I am absolutely pissed at my current phone. It lags.
I want to know if it is a good option to buy Note 1 in 2013? Does games run smoothly? And last, how is the developer support?
Thanks for taking time to read it. Looking forward for replies.
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For me No! Because now smartphones requires atleast Quad Core Processor With 2GB..... NOTE Became Average Phone B'coz it has Dual Core Processor ...
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For me No! Because now smartphones requires atleast Quad Core Processor With 2GB..... NOTE Became Average Phone B'coz it has Dual Core Processor ...
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I'm glad you said "For me".
Dual Core is a great asset in a phone, just like in PCs when they first hit, but Quad Core hasn't really had the same impact, and won't for some time (IMHO). Phones are still not multitaskers from a user point of view; we can only have one app on screen at any one time (other than some phones that allow two, including the Note 1). So you could argue that the app that has the focus takes one core, and background tasks take the other (although it is a little more complicated than that). Most apps are not multithreaded either, so there are few benefits to more than 2 cores. Web browsers, for example, are mostly single threaded.
The newer phones tend to be quicker / slicker in real world use more because of the refinements in the CPU core, better GPU and (to a lesser extent) faster speeds. Whether you see improvements from 2GB of RAM over 1GB is purely subjective and depends on individual use patterns. Increased CPU speed only helps for, to be generous, about 20% of time when the phone is in use. Less than 5% overall.
And the arguements that the Note 1 is slower than the S2 were also true when the Note 1 was brand new, which didn't stop it selling extrememly well! That arugement is flawed.
The bottom line, for the OP, is "How much?". Comparisons shouldn't be made between the Note 1 and the Note 2, nor with any newer phone with a Quad Core CPU and 2GB of RAM, they are in different price brackets. Comparisons should be made to phones in the same price bracket, the age of a device is irrelevant (for now). Depending on how cheaply the Note 1 can be bought for, that might make it a very good prospect.
I personally find the 'lower' resolution of the Note 1 to be fine, and I really appreciate that it is 16x10 rather than 16x9 in aspect ratio.
However, it is an older phone and I doubt Samsung will release any more updates for it after the recent 4.1.2. Developer support is very strong, though, and custom ROMs are getting better and better as the Exynos chipset is exploited more and more in the open source drivers. The Note 1 running SuperNexus or SlimBean is really quite slick. And if you want some of the stock Samsung Apps then Cassies ROM is great for getting rid of the bloat.
Out here in Qatar, the Note 1 is still for sale, but is more expensive than the Nexus 4 is in the UK (excluding flight costs!). The Nexus 4 is a stunning phone. So it all comes down to cost and availability of other phones.
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I'm glad you said "For me".
Dual Core is a great asset in a phone, just like in PCs when they first hit, but Quad Core hasn't really had the same impact, and won't for some time (IMHO). Phones are still not multitaskers from a user point of view; we can only have one app on screen at any one time (other than some phones that allow two, including the Note 1). So you could argue that the app that has the focus takes one core, and background tasks take the other (although it is a little more complicated than that). Most apps are not multithreaded either, so there are few benefits to more than 2 cores. Web browsers, for example, are mostly single threaded.
The newer phones tend to be quicker / slicker in real world use more because of the refinements in the CPU core, better GPU and (to a lesser extent) faster speeds. Whether you see improvements from 2GB of RAM over 1GB is purely subjective and depends on individual use patterns. Increased CPU speed only helps for, to be generous, about 20% of time when the phone is in use. Less than 5% overall.
And the arguements that the Note 1 is slower than the S2 were also true when the Note 1 was brand new, which didn't stop it selling extrememly well! That arugement is flawed.
The bottom line, for the OP, is "How much?". Comparisons shouldn't be made between the Note 1 and the Note 2, nor with any newer phone with a Quad Core CPU and 2GB of RAM, they are in different price brackets. Comparisons should be made to phones in the same price bracket, the age of a device is irrelevant (for now). Depending on how cheaply the Note 1 can be bought for, that might make it a very good prospect.
I personally find the 'lower' resolution of the Note 1 to be fine, and I really appreciate that it is 16x10 rather than 16x9 in aspect ratio.
However, it is an older phone and I doubt Samsung will release any more updates for it after the recent 4.1.2. Developer support is very strong, though, and custom ROMs are getting better and better as the Exynos chipset is exploited more and more in the open source drivers. The Note 1 running SuperNexus or SlimBean is really quite slick. And if you want some of the stock Samsung Apps then Cassies ROM is great for getting rid of the bloat.
Out here in Qatar, the Note 1 is still for sale, but is more expensive than the Nexus 4 is in the UK (excluding flight costs!). The Nexus 4 is a stunning phone. So it all comes down to cost and availability of other phones.
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I agree with you up to a certain extent. However I wish to raise the following points-
Dual cores are not as efficient as quad cores.
As you say, RAM is subjective but 2 GB will give better results than 1 GB.
I don't like the 16:10 aspect ratio
Exynos chipset won't be exploited any more - developers are steadily leaving the Exynos chipsets behind and moving on to Qualcomm chipsets.
Yes, there will be just one more update to 4.2.2 and then Samsung will drop support.
Out here in India, Nexus 4 isn't even available officially.
@op I wouldn't buy this phone if I were you. Get something from the newer generation or get the note2 secondhand when the note 3 comes out - doubtless there will be more than one idiot willing to throw away a perfectly good phone for the latest and greatest.
However if you want a phone that 'just works' and developer support is important then go for a Sony.
What am I getting ? The next nexus. But that's because I'm a flashaholic !
BUY ONE! I skipped the note 2 as we have no 4g. Quad cores only give 60%more processing power not double. I over clocked mine to1.6gig.
I'm vv happy with it still. You should skip a generation as the tec is good for two years. Phone makers want you to up date every year.
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BUY ONE! I skipped the note 2 as we have no 4g. Quad cores only give 60%more processing power not double. I over clocked mine to1.6gig.
I'm vv happy with it still. You should skip a generation as the tec is good for two years. Phone makers want you to up date every year.
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It will be two years this October....
warfareonly said:
Exynos chipset won't be exploited any more - developers are steadily leaving the Exynos chipsets behind and moving on to Qualcomm chipsets.!
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I'm not sure that's the case. The Exynos 4 is still in current hardware, such as the S3, Note 2 and Note 8. The Exynos 5 is in the Nexus 10 and is expected to show up in the S4 at some point. All of these devices have a huge amount of aftermarket dev support.
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Dual cores are not as efficient as quad cores.
As you say, RAM is subjective but 2 GB will give better results than 1 GB.
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Again, we need to compare on price, not hardware specs. I don't know how much the Note sells for in India, but compare that with what's available in the same price bracket. The Note cannot now compete with the latest and greatest, nor the previous top models perhaps, but I'm sure it would fair very well indeed against the current mid-range crop.
As for the Dual / Quad core arguement, check what Anand says when he reviews the Note 8 and talks about Multiview:
Here’s where having four cores actually can make a difference.
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Meaning that in general 4 cores are not really any more useful than 2 unless you have something that specifically can benefit.
wait for note 3
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RockstarGamer said:
For me No! Because now smartphones requires atleast Quad Core Processor With 2GB..... NOTE Became Average Phone B'coz it has Dual Core Processor ...
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While your net decision is agreeable, the logic you provided for it is full of misnomers. The 'more cores and more RAM' theory doesn't work that way. Buying a phone with that logic is just plain ignorance. A dual core phone can still do wonders if the materials are right. An old horse Note1 with 2 exynos cores can do a lot more than a new phone with 4 MedaTek cores. And RAM is pretty much useless without proper optimizations on both s/w and h/w fronts.
To the OP - It is an old phone, reaching two years in Oct. And it was first designed to run Gingerbread so we have come a long way already in terms of support. So you are gonna drop 26-27K on a phone that is great but would not be officially supported for very long. Plus it should see significant drop in prices when the Note 3 comes out (the trade value of the phone will be peanuts compared to what you would pay for it now).
However, on the plus side you would get an excellent phone. With proper care and the help pf XDA resources you would not need official support. We should easily see Key Lime Pie (Android 5.0) on our notes not long after it comes out. Plus it is an awesome device, did I say?? And for ~26K, the alternatives are mid-range phones that just can't match up.
If I were you, I would buy a pre-owned Note 1 (or a Xolo A800 which I must admit is quite nice and cheap). Then when it comes out, get a brand new Note 3.
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While your net decision is agreeable, the logic you provided for it is full of misnomers. The 'more cores and more RAM' theory doesn't work that way. Buying a phone with that logic is just plain ignorance. A dual core phone can still do wonders if the materials are right. An old horse Note1 with 2 exynos cores can do a lot more than a new phone with 4 MedaTek cores. And RAM is pretty much useless without proper optimizations on both s/w and h/w fronts.
To the OP - It is an old phone, reaching two years in Oct. And it was first designed to run Gingerbread so we have come a long way already in terms of support. So you are gonna drop 26-27K on a phone that is great but would not be officially supported for very long. Plus it should see significant drop in prices when the Note 3 comes out (the trade value of the phone will be peanuts compared to what you would pay for it now).
However, on the plus side you would get an excellent phone. With proper care and the help pf XDA resources you would not need official support. We should easily see Key Lime Pie (Android 5.0) on our notes not long after it comes out. Plus it is an awesome device, did I say?? And for ~26K, the alternatives are mid-range phones that just can't match up.
If I were you, I would buy a pre-owned Note 1 (or a Xolo A800 which I must admit is quite nice and cheap). Then when it comes out, get a brand new Note 3.
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I M Talking about NOTE II Not Craps with Mediatek Chipsets
IMHO if u dont' already own a Note 1, u should go for the Note 2, or wait for Note 3 =)
♡ for my note. Its my personal computing device and my diary and album
Get any note device and you will be a happy person.
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So, I am on Sprint and currently have the Note 3 which I love but has given me nothing but problems. Is it too late at this point to switch to the Nexus 6? Should I hold out another month or two since all the new phones will be coming out in Feb-April? I absolutely love getting a new phone but I hate how fast they move. The Nexus 6 just came out and in 2 months or so, it will already be outdated. Just drives me nuts. So, whats your opinions? Should I suck it up and hold out, or just upgrade now?
Just buy one, this will happen with every phone release. Something better is always around the corner
I wouldn't say the N6 will be outdated.... I would say everything else will catch up to it... What do you think is coming out in the future? The Note 4 just came out......
They aren't even rolling out Lollipop to other devices anytime soon so it still always has that edge as well....
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I just joined the Nexus world on Friday with a Nexus 6, I have to say regardless of what others might say I love this phone. Given that Nexus 4 is receiving all the updates, I would say by the time your contract is up the Nexus 6 will still actually be current... just my 2 cents... btw if you have the drop you phone syndrome (like me) I would suggest investing in a decent case. My son in law dropped his Iphone6 2 days after getting it.... then put a case on....
I'm just worried. There's a couple small things missing in the nexus that i want in my next phone and i really want the snapdragon 810 when that comes out. I really wanted the Xperia Z3 but that didn't make it to sprint and I've been thinking the Galaxy S6 or the Xperia Z4 if it makes it to Sprint. The screen size and resolution of the nexus 6 with Qi Charging are what really keep me coming back to considering it. No sdcard has me really worried. I have 32GB internal now and 32 sdcard and I've had to delete stuff.
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^ both valid points.
A phone announced in April doesn't make its way out until a month (if not more) later and by then it's already halfway to the next nexus announcement.
If you are waiting on the 810, you might want to check today's news as it looks like it will be delayed... in Google news search snapdragon 810... 64 gb and you have to delete stuff?? dude what you got on there? Sounds like you need a phone with 128 gb capacity..... I generally keep stuff up on dropbox or google drive if it is not used often....
Its never too late, this phone will have a long life. Even the Nexus 4 still have active development.
Snapdragon 810... doesn't really matter, our hardware is already good as it is. I care more about development over hardware. You have to keep in mind that you can have the best of the best when it comes to hardware specification but if the software is not well optimized, then your hardware isn't going to do anything as it'll consume more processing power, RAM, etc.
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If you are waiting on the 810, you might want to check today's news as it looks like it will be delayed... in Google news search snapdragon 810... 64 gb and you have to delete stuff?? dude what you got on there? Sounds like you need a phone with 128 gb capacity..... I generally keep stuff up on dropbox or google drive if it is not used often....
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What are you talking about LG Flex2 already is out with 810.
You will see a lot of new phones with 810 at MWC.
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What are you talking about LG Flex2 already is out with 810.
You will see a lot of new phones with 810 at MWC.
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The phone isn't released or sold, it was announced with a pre-release 810 chip onboard with a prototype.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2015/01/133_171341.html its rumored that the Snapdragon 810 is having issues. If it has those issues, it will delay the phone because Qualcomm will need to fix the issues before mass producing a defective chip.
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The phone isn't released or sold, it was announced with a pre-release 810 chip onboard with a prototype.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2015/01/133_171341.html its rumored that the Snapdragon 810 is having issues. If it has those issues, it will delay the phone because Qualcomm will need to fix the issues before mass producing a defective chip.
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There is no delay what so ever regarding 810 as been said by Qualcomm.
Also there is a Note 4 with 810 for Korean market only, info.
Btw LG Flex2 is not a prototype, it is real deal. Will be launched next month in Vodafone UK exclusively for 6 weeks, also LG taking pre orders at Amazon Germany.
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The note 4 in Korea was not a snapdragon 810. Same as in all the others.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8805/samsung-launches-the-galaxy-note-4-ltea
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The phone isn't released or sold, it was announced with a pre-release 810 chip onboard with a prototype.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2015/01/133_171341.html its rumored that the Snapdragon 810 is having issues. If it has those issues, it will delay the phone because Qualcomm will need to fix the issues before mass producing a defective chip.
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HAHAHA LOL.
Did you read that article?
A hilarious line reads as "and its clock rate, an index representing a processor's performance, was estimated to be lower than its predecessor, the Snapdragon 805".
*** clock rate is NOT an "index representing a processor's performance". A clock rate is a clock rate is a clock rate. Nothing more. And yes, we ALL KNOW that the A57 cores have a lower clock rate than current 32bit ARM chips... but no matter, because they do WAY MORE WORK PER CYCLE.
Another bit of comedy: "According to the mobile chipset benchmark Geekbench, the Snapdragon 810 had a serious "throttling" problem that forcibly limits the graphic processing performance when it overheats."
*** so I suppose they would rather that it MELTS when it overheats, rather than throttling back to safety? Note that this only means that those people RAN Geekbench, not that anyone technically associated with Geekbench software made any comment... this is a highly misleading statement. Are they even aware that PHONES do NOT have active cooling (a fan)? They aren't designed or intended to run at a high rate for hours on end. They are intended to work for short bursts intermittently. If they become heat soaked, they need time to cool off. They ALWAYS benchmark better when you put them in the freezer.
Just incredible what kind of bogus article that is....
*** which isn't to say that the chip won't have some first run issues. I'm currently running a first generation Qualcomm Krait. It happens to be loaded with problems. We get around most of them, but the killer awesome feature they added to these cores... which is supposed to let them track and control the voltage supply automatically rather than being table driven... is a bit hit or miss. If the chip cranks up too quickly, it doesn't compensate correctly and undervolts, triggering a random reboot. We've managed to get it in line so it happens... "rarely", but it still does happen. And so, I'm willing to let the first run or two of the Qualcomm 810's go through before jumping onto it. The current "soon to be available" lg gflex2 phone also really doesn't interest me because I just know that I (or someone else) would end up sitting on it and snapping it in half. I'm thinking that if the next Nexus will run something like that, I may just go for that.
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So, I am on Sprint and currently have the Note 3 which I love but has given me nothing but problems. Is it too late at this point to switch to the Nexus 6? Should I hold out another month or two since all the new phones will be coming out in Feb-April? I absolutely love getting a new phone but I hate how fast they move. The Nexus 6 just came out and in 2 months or so, it will already be outdated. Just drives me nuts. So, whats your opinions? Should I suck it up and hold out, or just upgrade now?
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Please hold out for the new phones. Snapdragon 810 is going to be epic. Nexus 6 is very good but if you need 64 bit 810 and MicroSD support, then wait for Z4 / Z4 Ultra. That means you would have to make do with Note 3 for the next 3-4 months minimum.
If you can survive with Note 3, then, wait for 3-4 months, else, buy Nexus 6
What if they sent us the exynos variants? Since the note 7 replacement would get resolved faster that way, opposed to exchanging every battery in the note which would technically make every device a refurbished, it would take longer that way and would devalue the device...faster way to satisfy customers is sending the varients that aren't exploding which are the exynos varients...
Whats your feedback and thoughts on this!?
Thanks in advance!
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RidinNerdy said:
What if they sent us the exynos variants? Since the note 7 replacement would get resolved faster that way, opposed to exchanging every battery in the note which would technically make every device a refurbished, it would take longer that way and would devalue the device...faster way to satisfy customers is sending the varients that aren't exploding which are the exynos varients...
Whats your feedback and thoughts on this!?
Thanks in advance!
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Probably not happening. I don't think any of the snapdragon models caught fire.
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danon.brown said:
Probably not happening. I don't think any of the snapdragon models caught fire.
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So why is all the U.S carriers recalling the Note 7's SD820 here...??
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RidinNerdy said:
So why is all the U.S carriers recalling the Note 7's SD820 here...??
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To cover all angles.
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Not a chance. The carriers need their bloat, and will not recode everything for a different chipset within 2 weeks.
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To cover all angles.
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Makes sense
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Not a chance. The carriers need their bloat, and will not recode everything for a different chipset within 2 weeks.
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Your right..
I guess it was just wishful thinking[emoji18] [emoji18] [emoji18]
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Probably not happening. I don't think any of the snapdragon models caught fire.
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This guy is in the US so I assume it was a Snapdragon model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQOiilJwJ0
@RidinNerdy The replacements will be the same as we have now.
Recall through Samsung and not carriers
What if we send our phones through Samsung instead then to the carriers? Some people in the US bought the phone unlocked and Samsung is offering their own exchange program not for those people but just in general.
Here is the link to Samsungs announcement of the exchange program: http://news.samsung.com/us/2016/09/02/samsung-establishes-u-s-product-exchange-program-galaxy-note7/
The exynos models were the ones that caught fire...not the snapdragon.
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The exynos models were the ones that caught fire...not the snapdragon.
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Yeah but we don't wanna think that, we want the exynos because they have root(ignorance is bliss[emoji18]) , plus it would make sense for them to give us an unlocked version because if i have tmobile version and i exchange it for theirs im sure they are not carrying the T-Mobile/Sprint/Verizon/at&t varients so ill get a debloated note 7 ***PROFIT*** THANK ME LATER!
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being in US doesnt mean he couldn't have Exynos, but AFAIK the problem is batteries made in Korea, not cpu etc. Probably majority of batteries made in Korea would go to Exynos equipped models for local markets and it seems most of Tmo phones are made in China for example, but the problem is most may not mean all and if they were short of chinese batt. in China, they could have shipped some from Korea and If I had to guess, that could be reason for global recall, they may not be 100% sure if some faulty batteries from Korea didn't end up in China made US models. I wonder if there is a program able to read batt info, if such info exist. It blows my mind, that all this could be avoided if only there was simple access inside, like on older models.
If they switched the processors, I would bail out getting the Note 7 altogether. I had a Note 10.1, 12.2 and note 5 all with exynos processors and all of them couldn't handle heavy activity after a certain period of time. Putting the snapdragon processor in the Note 7, S7 and S7edge was smart of Samsung.
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being in US doesnt mean he couldn't have Exynos, but AFAIK the problem is batteries made in Korea, not cpu etc. Probably majority of batteries made in Korea would go to Exynos equipped models for local markets and it seems most of Tmo phones are made in China for example, but the problem is most may not mean all and if they were short of chinese batt. in China, they could have shipped some from Korea and If I had to guess, that could be reason for global recall, they may not be 100% sure if some faulty batteries from Korea didn't end up in China made US models. I wonder if there is a program able to read batt info, if such info exist. It blows my mind, that all this could be avoided if only there was simple access inside, like on older models.
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I like how you think especially since I thought the same way. It seems they are protecting their battery source as they don't want to "out" them. I agree a simple app to detect what battery you have would make sense. They are gonna refurbish the returned phones somehow
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Yeah but we don't wanna think that, we want the exynos because they have root(ignorance is bliss[emoji18]) , plus it would make sense for them to give us an unlocked version because if i have tmobile version and i exchange it for theirs im sure they are not carrying the T-Mobile/Sprint/Verizon/at&t varients so ill get a debloated note 7 ***PROFIT*** THANK ME LATER!
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If you really want to do that, just return your TMo for a refund and then buy the Exynos version from Samsung or a retailer who carries it.
Personally, I prefer the Snapdragon one, that's why I bought from a carrier.
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If you really want to do that, just return your TMo for a refund and then buy the Exynos version from Samsung or a retailer who carries it.
Personally, I prefer the Snapdragon one, that's why I bought from a carrier.
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If i buy it from samsung i cant finance the phone, i have to pay $850 plus tax, if i buy from tmobile store and thrn go to the samsung store ill get:
exynos note 7 varient
No bloat
New battery
Still be under finance
***..profit!!!***
Way better this way, Harvey Dent u are in no condition answer these questions, last time i saw u, u were in the hospital in Dark knight
Thnx kBye![emoji8]
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I have to disagree.
I especially wnt the exynos processor.
Things to consider:
I've had the same models, but my 12.2 pro is lte, so it has the snapdragon 800 processor.
10.1 and 12.2 Wi-Fi were 32bit processors. Those exynos models were behind qualcomm snapdragon at the time, and their scores showed it.
Note 5 was 64 bit exynos, and was faster than 810 snapdragon counter part
808 snapdragon was hexacore and as well, slower.
Hard to compare them, reason they went with qualcomm was qualcomm came out with lte embedded, so it didn't need another module draining battery. Last year's note 5 came worldwide Exynos, and if you compare last year's exynos to this year's snapdragon (hard reset Note 5 vs hard reset Note 7) you would be hard to believe the snapdragon 820 is faster. As a matter of fact it's not, except on paper. I've seen the exynos 88xx blow away the snapdragon 820.
I for one would love it if they replaced them. I'm a Note fanboy. I've had every note except the original, and they've all gotten better, with my exception being they note 7 in terms of software. This is the first time I feel let down
I've had the S7 Edge for the last 5 months, I loved the screen and especially the battery life. Samsung has released a product that just wasnt ready. I don't have a surface thermometer, but I'm being I could bake an egg on this. I don't feel it most of the time, because i have it in a case (platinum, which by the way covers both edges of the screen so you can't use any edge option, and cuts off some letters on web pages) but there's just something wrong this year.
Samsung has started to listen to... the media and websites instead of consumers. Websites complained it wasn't like their beloved Apple, all glass and Prone to break or shatter. They took the IR away. Sealed their battery, made their cameras 4:3 by default, took all their little options away that websites thought werw too much (but could all be turned off if not needed, such as eye scrolling, motion swiping, photo formula text editing (check the note 4 advertising about taking a photo of a paragraph and being able to move it around including the formula)), it just doesnt make sense.
Back to the subject, to me, and i am currently using both, the exynos 7420 found in the note 5 with the gpu mali T760 seems faster in real life than the snapdragon 820 with adreno 530. I suspect after seeing as much that the exynos 8890 in the international version. ( 930FD ) is faster.
Sorry I'm just so disappointed and blown away by how hot this is. And performance is bad all over for me
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being in US doesnt mean he couldn't have Exynos, but AFAIK the problem is batteries made in Korea, not cpu etc. Probably majority of batteries made in Korea would go to Exynos equipped models for local markets and it seems most of Tmo phones are made in China for example, but the problem is most may not mean all and if they were short of chinese batt. in China, they could have shipped some from Korea and If I had to guess, that could be reason for global recall, they may not be 100% sure if some faulty batteries from Korea didn't end up in China made US models. I wonder if there is a program able to read batt info, if such info exist. It blows my mind, that all this could be avoided if only there was simple access inside, like on older models.
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I like how you think especially since I thought the same way. It seems they are protecting their battery source as they don't want to "out" them. I agree a simple app to detect what battery you have would make sense. They are gonna refurbish the returned phones somehow
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It looks like THEY were the battery source and it was put into 70% of the phones released.
"Samsung SDI supplied 70 percent of the batteries fitted into the 2.5 million estimated Galaxy Note 7 units that have so far landed in consumer hands and stores. The other 30 percent of batteries have been provided by Chinese battery maker ATL."
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-7-drops-samsung-sdi-batteries-714788/
sledgie said:
I have to disagree.
I especially wnt the exynos processor.
Things to consider:
I've had the same models, but my 12.2 pro is lte, so it has the snapdragon 800 processor.
10.1 and 12.2 Wi-Fi were 32bit processors. Those exynos models were behind qualcomm snapdragon at the time, and their scores showed it.
Note 5 was 64 bit exynos, and was faster than 810 snapdragon counter part
808 snapdragon was hexacore and as well, slower.
Hard to compare them, reason they went with qualcomm was qualcomm came out with lte embedded, so it didn't need another module draining battery. Last year's note 5 came worldwide Exynos, and if you compare last year's exynos to this year's snapdragon (hard reset Note 5 vs hard reset Note 7) you would be hard to believe the snapdragon 820 is faster. As a matter of fact it's not, except on paper. I've seen the exynos 88xx blow away the snapdragon 820.
I for one would love it if they replaced them. I'm a Note fanboy. I've had every note except the original, and they've all gotten better, with my exception being they note 7 in terms of software. This is the first time I feel let down
I've had the S7 Edge for the last 5 months, I loved the screen and especially the battery life. Samsung has released a product that just wasnt ready. I don't have a surface thermometer, but I'm being I could bake an egg on this. I don't feel it most of the time, because i have it in a case (platinum, which by the way covers both edges of the screen so you can't use any edge option, and cuts off some letters on web pages) but there's just something wrong this year.
Samsung has started to listen to... the media and websites instead of consumers. Websites complained it wasn't like their beloved Apple, all glass and Prone to break or shatter. They took the IR away. Sealed their battery, made their cameras 4:3 by default, took all their little options away that websites thought werw too much (but could all be turned off if not needed, such as eye scrolling, motion swiping, photo formula text editing (check the note 4 advertising about taking a photo of a paragraph and being able to move it around including the formula)), it just doesnt make sense.
Back to the subject, to me, and i am currently using both, the exynos 7420 found in the note 5 with the gpu mali T760 seems faster in real life than the snapdragon 820 with adreno 530. I suspect after seeing as much that the exynos 8890 in the international version. ( 930FD ) is faster.
Sorry I'm just so disappointed and blown away by how hot this is. And performance is bad all over for me
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See you know what your talking about these other guys don't, they don't know that the In-House processor works better because it's theirs just like apples works wonders on their phone because it's their own, better battery on the exynos and root is available aswell...smh..i want exynos
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Technically it was always QUALCOMM that had their processors rootable, Samsung had theirs under lock and key, lots of developers were asking Samsung to release notes on their exynos as they werent following the "rules" of openness. International versions always had the exynos, and most Wi-Fi models. It's just we got really lucky last year because of the 810 overheating. This year's model didn't have "liquid cooling" that the s7 and s7 edge had, and it's just... It's almost like I'm using a knock off phone.
I've never considered going back to a previous model of any phone. That said this was not Samsung's first "dud". Their S2 on Sprint was an exynos and it was a beast. On T mobile it was a TI OMAP I think 4430. Let's just say it showed me back then how awesome it (exynos) was.
Everyone who has used a note always gets a Better version of the S*. This year it seems we have gone back....1,2,3 year's
? And I'm not talking about the denotation.
People long forgotten...
http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-aware-of-exynos-documentation-issue/
To this day developers are still asking...
My take they are releasing the QC versions in the US because they don't want to give that documentation needed. Everyone keeps saying some underhanded anti-competitive deal, but if that's the case then how does Apple do it? Why they do it with the Note 5, and why wasn't there hoopla when that happened? The promise was made in the US, and magically we stopped getting Exynos the following year. When they released a Exynos version everyone asked for documentation they switched us back to QC. We will always see QC as long as we remember they promised documentation. They only give us the ones for Panda boards last I remember and 32 bit only.