I find the intrinsic rom the latest version has excellent battery life
I dont know what power management features bulit into it but compared to other roms i notice these things different about intrinsic
1) the signal stays in 3G all the time. My data plan is capable of H.
2) the rom itself seems not to be using HD7 base but something thing else like Mozart or trophy base
3) the Google page search bar in IE is smaller than normal, like hta u find in smaller wp7 phones like omnia 7 and mozart, so i guess this rom is using different rom base because the HD7 google search bar is wider ?
maybe the rom maker can comment on these?
Magpir said:
I find the intrinsic rom the latest version has excellent battery life
I dont know what power management features bulit into it but compared to other roms i notice these things different about intrinsic
1) the signal stays in 3G all the time. My data plan is capable of H.
2) the rom itself seems not to be using HD7 base but something thing else like Mozart or trophy base
3) the Google page search bar in IE is smaller than normal, like hta u find in smaller wp7 phones like omnia 7 and mozart, so i guess this rom is using different rom base because the HD7 google search bar is wider ?
maybe the rom maker can comment on these?
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Please add the Mido-Mido rom. I think that the battery life is even better then on Mido-Mido then any other rom.
Badcam3 said:
Please add the Mido-Mido rom. I think that the battery life is even better then on Mido-Mido then any other rom.
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it seems mido mido , pwpd is using the same base as intrinisc.
Magpir said:
...compared to other roms i notice these things different about intrinsic
1) the signal stays in 3G all the time. My data plan is capable of H.
2) the rom itself seems not to be using HD7 base but something thing else like Mozart or trophy base
3) the Google page search bar in IE is smaller than normal, like hta u find in smaller wp7 phones like omnia 7 and mozart, so i guess this rom is using different rom base because the HD7 google search bar is wider ?
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01. the icon for HSDPA is 3G on intrinsicROM.
i can change it, if need be.
02. as of intrinsic 5.02 is using...
sh4d0w86 said:
what is the base ROM used
--- Schubert S Europe 5.10.401.04
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quote from Post #4 from intrinsicROM thread.
03. the Google Favorites link is to google.com/pda, instead of google.com
Magpir said:
it seems mido mido , pwpd is using the same base as intrinisc.
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i can't speak for mido-mido ROM, but PWPD v4 was using intrinsicROM as a base, not the same base as intrinsicROM.
@Magpir you should add more rom regardleess base or etc.
@everyone: I don't get to see any hilight like 3g ,E or H on my hd7 with the intrinsic rom.I install Advanced config. v 1.5 and activate everything..When I use Next Gen+ there is a 3g appear on my device.
i dont know why the intrinsic rom seems to have solved a long standing problem i had with my phone
the problem is this
the phone seems to rapidly discharge after taken off the charger from 100% to 80%
when using other custom roms or stock rom,
now the problem seems to have disappeared
anyone knows why?
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sh4d0w86 said:
01. the icon for HSDPA is 3G on intrinsicROM.
i can change it, if need be.
02. as of intrinsic 5.02 is using...
quote from Post #4 from intrinsicROM thread.
03. the Google Favorites link is to google.com/pda, instead of google.com
i can't speak for mido-mido ROM, but PWPD v4 was using intrinsicROM as a base, not the same base as intrinsicROM.
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is there an option to choose 3G only and not H?
H is 3.5G on my phone
above........
Ttblondey said:
@Magpir you should add more rom regardleess base or etc.
@everyone: I don't get to see any hilight like 3g ,E or H on my hd7 with the intrinsic rom.I install Advanced config. v 1.5 and activate everything..When I use Next Gen+ there is a 3g appear on my device.
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only added the OS 8107 ones
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The Telstra ROM for Australia has fianlly been released. Has anyone tried it yet? Feed back would be appreciated. Sense UI or TouchFlo, Telstra customizations, etc.??
esseff said:
The Telstra ROM for Australia has fianlly been released. Has anyone tried it yet? Feed back would be appreciated. Sense UI or TouchFlo, Telstra customizations, etc.??
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I'm happy to load it up and give it a go. Downloading now from here http://www.htc.com/au/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=901&news_id=583.
I see it has a new radio version too - 4.49.25.77
Getting **** download speed from HTC server though - 10.2 kb/sec. Says the download will take 4 hrs! And I thought rapidshare was bad
Update: 32 minutes to go and HTC have brought out 3 new phone models since the download commenced )
Try the US server it is much quicker. I always find US downolads much quicker than Asian or Euopean - for anything.
I have the new "Unofficial" HTC SenseUI ROM which I like, so I don't want to try the Telstra one unless it is good. It suggests there is no Telstra customisation (a good thing).
I am not sure if the current ROM I am using is NextG compatible so that is the main reason for my interest in the Telstra one.
esseff said:
Try the US server it is much quicker. I always find US downolads much quicker than Asian or Euopean - for anything.
I have the new "Unofficial" HTC SenseUI ROM which I like, so I don't want to try the Telstra one unless it is good. It suggests there is no Telstra customisation (a good thing).
I am not sure if the current ROM I am using is NextG compatible so that is the main reason for my interest in the Telstra one.
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I think as long as the device is 850 mhz compatible then the ROM doesn't matter as far as NextG is concerned. The new radio version might be interesting though if it's especially written for the 850 mhz model. Anyway, I'll let you know what it's got shortly. I read somewhere that it's got a 'My Phone' tab in Sense that accesses stuff like Foxtel etc.
OK, so here's the lowdown....
Windows Version: 21881.5.0.84
Sense 2.1 19221417.0
Tabs: Home, People, Messages, Email, Downloads, Telstra Applications, TV, News and Sport, Internet and Search, Camera, Music, Calendar, Settings, Favourites, Weather, Stocks.
Yukky Telstra light blue wallpaper on Sense tabs (you can change it of course).
Hard to talk about reliability, but ROM appears to be very snappy, although older type 6.5 with 'start' at the top left.
Not sure why they would release a 'new' ROM with Sense 2.1 when the official HTC update contains Sense 2.5.
If you're a Telstra customer looking to access all of the Telstra Apps/Services then the ROM might be worth a look. If you're interested in cutting edge stuff, then give it a miss.
As mentioned earlier it does contain a radio that isn't in our sticky - 4.49.25.77 - so that might be worth ripping out.
Thx... think I will stick with what I have.
Can someone post a mirror or even a serial number for it.
radio please!
I assume this radio would provide better reception in Australia, I am a Three customer, if I download this ROM, I wouldn't be able to use all the telstra apps WOULD I??? like watch TV, FOX and all the fancy apps that telstra has pre-installed in the mobile device.... IF NOT! then can someone please get the radio out and post it in the radio section, would be appreciated by those of us who live "down under"... thnx in return!!
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Can someone post a mirror or even a serial number for it.
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I'll upload it to Rapidshare when I get home from work (+ about 10 hrs from this post)
cr1960 said:
I'll upload it to Rapidshare when I get home from work (+ about 10 hrs from this post)
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Great, much appreciated.
uploading now....
here: http://rapidshare.com/files/3649242...Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.77_Signed_Ship.exe.html
cr1960 said:
uploading now....
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Any luck on the upload? I'm just grabbing it now from HTC, and happy to upload it.
nackas said:
Any luck on the upload? I'm just grabbing it now from HTC, and happy to upload it.
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link up now - sorry for the delay - got stuck playing tennis on the wii
Haha no stress.. I thought I'd upload it hotfile anyway just incase, so now we also have a mirror
http://hotfile.com/dl/33386735/1766...Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.77_Signed_Ship.exe.html
nackas said:
Haha no stress.. I thought I'd upload it hotfile anyway just incase, so now we also have a mirror
http://hotfile.com/dl/33386735/1766...Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.77_Signed_Ship.exe.html
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can never have too many download options.....
I've posted the link into the radio sticky as well in case someone there wants to rip the radio from it.
Thanks for the mirrors
thank you very much for this ROM. Very much appreciated.
I bought the HTC Tilt2 (AT&T) version of internet, and I am on the Telstra Next G network. It makes my life easier.
(Once my iPhone contract ends, I will switch it to Telstra Next G.)
esseff said:
The Telstra ROM for Australia has fianlly been released. Has anyone tried it yet? Feed back would be appreciated. Sense UI or TouchFlo, Telstra customizations, etc.??
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I have recently swicthed from Optus to Telstra (have a T7381) & thought would do the right thing and re-install telstra rom ... if you use GPS it takes ages(or not at all to get a lock) HTC have been working on fix for last month ... whereis navigator crashes regulary and the rom is full of 'non' removable telstra links... speed is fine (on par with HTC generic 6.5) ... just installed the NRG 21903 Cookie rom (first cooked rom on my TP2) and would highly recommend ...if you like a full featured rom
Hi,
I tried to read throught the threads but there too many and for some of the ROM it is hard to figure out what is include or not...
I am currently using Mighty Fullforce (Jan 2010) and looking to see if there is something better that came out (too bad Mighty moved to Android).
So can you please give me some recommende ROM with the following criterias:
WM 6.5.???
Manila 2.5 2012+
No Addon (SPB, MaxSense, CoOkies)
Work with Telus
Stable
Lot's of RAM
Do not mind if many app's are installed...
Thanks for your help,
Staphane.
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Take a look at this one, pretty fast clean Rom..
kwbr Rhodium version 1.1 :: 21914 :: 23144 :: Sense 2018
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811121
I do you figure out wich build to use for WM 6.5.x:
6.5.3
21***
231**
234**
236**
28***
6.5.5
235**
F2504x4 said:
Take a look at this one, pretty fast clean Rom..
kwbr Rhodium version 1.1 :: 21914 :: 23144 :: Sense 2018
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811121
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I think that he does own a CDMA phone.
Not sure what is the reply about CDMA?
Anyway, can anyone help about figuring out how to choose a WM 6.5. buid, is there any review / comparaison out there?
Stephane Dufault said:
Not sure what is the reply about CDMA?
Anyway, can anyone help about figuring out how to choose a WM 6.5. buid, is there any review / comparaison out there?
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To see if you have a CDMA device, look underneath the battery. There will be a model number in the form of RHOD100, RHOD210, et cetera. Tell us which one is on your device.
WM6.5.5 development is all but dead. There is some continuing development on 6.5.3, though. My advice would be to just pick a few that you like and flash them until something sticks.
I must admit I am dissapointed from those fantastic cooked ROMs.
I have tested a lots of ROM. Almost all of them look amazing but after short period of time I found important issues. Starting with cool themes - black icons and black wallpaper which could not be reader outside building and ending with super functionality, but very slow system responses.
Finally, I use stock ROM with two HTC fixes - one for SMS stability and second for speakerphone issue (all for S2).
Stock ROM is good. The only issue is speed.
Sorry I did not realize that you were asking about my phone, it is a CDMA.
Stephane Dufault said:
Sorry I did not realize that you were asking about my phone, it is a CDMA.
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Here's an entire thread dedicated to CDMA ROMs. XDA is ok, but PPC Geeks does more stuff with CDMA than XDA. XDA generally has more to do with GSM.
[ROMS] Links to all CDMA ROMs, STOCK ROMS, RADIOS
Hi to all!,which is the last version for the radio?
Bootloader says that my radio version is 3.35.19.25
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk
vadash said:
Hi to all!,which is the last version for the radio?
Bootloader says that my radio version is 3.35.19.25
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk
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I believe the latest version is Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10 found in the Wildpuzzle thread among others.
and that radio works well with cyanogen roms???do you recomende to intall?
I can say it fixed my navi prob in cm 7 #17
Radio's are universal. Not confined to any particular ROM. The latest one is said to improve signal strength at the cost of battery life.
so if i dont have signal problems better stay with mine? how much difference of battery usage are we talking?
I personally have stuck to my old version (15.31), because, for me, Signal reception is fine, and, I dont use GPS at all, so, CM7's non functioning GPS is a Non-Issue for me.
The battery difference will be minimal. It's tough to put a figure here though. :/
how do u flash a new radio???
@3xeno... can i possibly help my prob of datanetwork??
Hello,
I got my first windows mobile device Diamond2 as a gift today and looking for a good OS here.
Can you please suggest one for me?
I will also download some from ROM page and try.
Do not forget to look into the WiKi before asking a question
Taken from the WiKi
Shipped ROMs for Topaz
Cooked ROMs for Topaz
Radio ROMs for Topaz
Success,
Senax
Thanks friend for reply.
I was just reading the WiKi page and seen all those.... but I am confused what ROM I should select SO looking for a generic feedback on what is good what is bad.
Actually I dont want ROM to be loaded with so many app. Looking for similar to what I have in mobile now but updated version...
I hope your device has latest Official ROM installed.
You will get all custom ROMs here which are mainly modify version of the Official ROM and has latest SYS/Builds and new Packages (new applications like adobe reader).
These ROMs are good, but NOT all ROM will satisfy every one. i.e ROM1 may good for person1 and person 4, but person 2 and 3 may like ROM2.
So it is good to test all available food and decide which dish tests you a lot .
Hope this will help.
Thanks.
With all the respect to your very correct and right answer (prabhat), this is in my opinion, very first and tha main problem, why the more and more people will switch to devileshed i-phone. The main difference betwen i-phone and wm 6.5 dev. is the "user-friendly" parameter. In no discuss, the wm 6.5 is more professional with more the features then the i-phone. But the people would like tu use the phone with satisfaction and enjoyness. Maybe the right answer for TD2IN will be something from you honest opinion, what do YOU think, that will be best solution for him/her. The ROM, which is stable, fast, simple, user friendly. The people need some help ... Have a nice day.
Here is my answer
TD2IN said:
Thanks friend for reply.
I was just reading the WiKi page and seen all those.... Looking for similar to what I have in mobile now but updated version...
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Here is my answer, i has been using Stock, Energy Standard and now i switch to "eclipse Version 7 (Updated)"
The eclipse looks to me very close to the Stock and fastest with few useful Apps.
I amalso looking for a ROM here and new here.
mur_bbsr said:
I amalso looking for a ROM here and new here.
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Hey I am also new here but managed to get my ROM here
I tried several available here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Cooked_ROMs_for_Topaz but atlast I am using Photon ROM and I am happy.
You may not like the same, but you need to atleast try 3-4 and select one that suite your usage/style etc.
I liked Dutty's ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=579076
And Photon ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943396
As Dutty is not updating and Photon ha much stable and good so I am using that.
PIng me if you need more help.
Thanks for the reply friend.
I will start my process tonight and let you all know how it goes...
thank you
mur_bbsr said:
Thanks for the reply friend.
I will start my process tonight and let you all know how it goes...
thank you
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Did you get your ROM ?
I am still in the process to find my cup of tea...
I started with Dutty's ROM... but this has old version... so started picking others.
Now I have tested below softwares but yet to finilise one:
1) Energy ROM - The Energy Standard one
2) CR192 Mozart OS
3) Photon ROM OS - Stock edition one
I like the stock rom apprach of photon and energy, but energy has lots of application pre installed which I dont want. If I see CR192 that is also very good pick. So I am looking at battery life now and should be finilise in 2 -3 days.
thanks
energy roms and photon roms are great...
Energy ROM FTW
I tried a few ROMs with my Topaz and settled at Energy ROM (with start menu at top).
I used to install a load of stuff with each ROM and this was the most complete ROM with the most flexible Sense UI. The only 2 apps I needed to install on top of Energy is Skype and TomTom Navigator.
I like that it has the manual rotate programmed on holding the Answer button (I used to install a keyboard extender to do it before using Energy ROMs) so it can manually rotate apps not built for auto rotate like Tomtom. More importantly, I can turn off auto rotate on apps coz often I don't want auto rotate like when Im lying on couch/bed reading or using it for music. Fark I hate the UI rotating when I dont want it to! I find auto rotate an annoying gimmick made popular by Apple. Just gimme manual rotate, thx.
I prefer Resco Explorer to Total Commander but I havent bothered to install Resco and live fine with Total Commander that comes with the Energy ROM. I understand that Resco is not freeware so they can't include it.
I like that all the JAVA and DOTNET stuff is all done, has a good wireless hotspot app already, Opera with max tabs set for more than 2 already, TCPMP media player working well, RSS feed app, Twitter, Stocks tab .... I could go on and on. It pretty much has all the good freeware and tweaks and all the hard work already done for you.
I don't use my Topaz daily now, but I still use the same version of Energy ROM on my Blackstone (Touch HD) as my personal mobile phone. I used to also carry the Topaz with a data only SIM in it for internet access, but now I use a Dell Streak (android) to do that. Yeh Im crazy I carry TWO phones everywhere!
IF you wanna get up and going right out of the box, Energy ROM is the most complete and ready for the Topaz.
Instead I Liked Photon ROM and CR192 Mozart and currently running with Photon UX Edition.
I liked Energy, but that is toooooo bulky with so many applications which I dont require and to me looks ugly on my device and I can not remove those. In case of Photon ROM I dont have any extra stuffs so I can Install what I need not what some one gives me to use, whihc I dont require. I understand that there are many who may like what is given on the ROM that they use... but I like to have my stuff in my device.
Photon UX - plus Chinese support + handwriting ftw!
I've tried many ROMs in search of a better replacement for my TD2's sluggish official ROM (SEA version), and I've fallen in love with Photon UX edition and its professional looking background art.
Even better, I have managed to install Xyam's East Asian fonts support, Guobi for pinyin and character inputs, and Samsung's simple + traditional Chinese handwriting input V3.0 (my version comes from sanxingshouxieshurufa_8313 and fits the screen perfectly). Don't bother trying out the menu icon for the Samsung input though, the options don't work, only full screen handwriting is enabled. Otherwise, everything works perfectly as far as I can tell!
Thank you all for this thread which gave me a basic idea of what rom software I should download. I will download Photon ROM now... need to findout which edition I need there
Thank you all.
I have couple of questions in Photon ROM while downloading different edition of it... but this forum prevent me to post in the photon thread. Do I need to contact the owner of photon rom for this?
Thank you all.
the1980ar said:
I have couple of questions in Photon ROM while downloading different edition of it... but this forum prevent me to post in the photon thread. Do I need to contact the owner of photon rom for this?
Thank you all.
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By default new users in forum are not allowed to post in development related threads (but I have sen exception and users with 1-2 posts do post/reply there as well). You will be automatically allowd to post there after 1 day or so.
If you need any help in between you can ask here or PM me and I can help you.
Thank you.. but my id started working now and I can post questions there as well.
Have updated my Photon UX ROM version to 2.2 and everything still works well for me
Hello, I am new to this forum, I have a HTC Incredible S from Optus Australia, it is currently s-off and has khamsakamal48s' MIUI rom installed. I have also been having bad reception, poor battery and wifi range issues ever since I got this phone, so i thought it is time to change the radio. Which radio would be appropriate for my phone and how will I install it?
Install the radio in my sig, i was with optus and has recently unlocked...
Sent from one of the few remaining Incredible S'
Cuzmanbro said:
Hello, I am new to this forum, I have a HTC Incredible S from Optus Australia, it is currently s-off and has khamsakamal48s' MIUI rom installed. I have also been having bad reception, poor battery and wifi range issues ever since I got this phone, so i thought it is time to change the radio. Which radio would be appropriate for my phone and how will I install it?
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i'm using the one with 19_m at the end ( see signature) it is the latest and seems to be ok, that's with Amaysim ( who use the optus network)
it can be installed 2 ways,
1) put pmg file in your sdk tools folder of PC and push via command prompt
2) put pmg file in root folder of sd card and boot to H-boot and it will find file and install itself
Note: make sure MD5 checksum is correct or else you can brick your phone.
files can be found in the "radio " topic in the moderation section
cheers
Addy
Well, I successfully installed it but it seems like it did minor differenceand nothhing to wifi range (have to be around 1.5 metre radius from the modem to get full bars and every 0.5 metres away from the modem takes out 1 bar, so max range of like 3.5 metres away from router :/ if you know any fix for that it would be appreciated) Thanks for the help so far
Cuzmanbro said:
Well, I successfully installed it but it seems like it did minor differenceand nothhing to wifi range (have to be around 1.5 metre radius from the modem to get full bars and every 0.5 metres away from the modem takes out 1 bar, so max range of like 3.5 metres away from router :/ if you know any fix for that it would be appreciated) Thanks for the help so far
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wifi is more kernal based ... what kernal are you using?, 2 good ics ones a re redux by Nonverbose, and XS by L0st profit
Addy
addyhash said:
wifi is more kernal based ... what kernal are you using?, 2 good ics ones a re redux by Nonverbose, and XS by L0st profit
Addy
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hmm, so can i use any kernals on any roms?
Kernels
Cuzmanbro said:
hmm, so can i use any kernals on any roms?
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You cant use any kernel on any rom, because some kernels are made for specific roms/android versions/User Interfaces..
For Instance, Kernel 3.x works on CM10 (Not Released Publicly Yet)
Beastmode Kernel works on roms like Blackout, ViperVIVO, and MIUI..
l0st.prophet's kernel (XS ICS or something like that) works on most ICS Roms..
For you i suggest Beastmode. It works for the latest MIUI rom in dev section
If you flash the wrong kernel, u will notice problems like wifi not working etc... Just a flash a compatible kernel over it and it should get fixed.
The Kernel link is in Blackout Thread on the 2nd post. Just download it and flash in recovery :good:
Piccilino said:
You cant use any kernel on any rom, because some kernels are made for specific roms/android versions/User Interfaces..
For Instance, Kernel 3.x works on CM10 (Not Released Publicly Yet)
Beastmode Kernel works on roms like Blackout, ViperVIVO, and MIUI..
l0st.prophet's kernel (XS ICS or something like that) works on most ICS Roms..
For you i suggest Beastmode. It works for the latest MIUI rom in dev section
If you flash the wrong kernel, u will notice problems like wifi not working etc... Just a flash a compatible kernel over it and it should get fixed.
The Kernel link is in Blackout Thread on the 2nd post. Just download it and flash in recovery :good:
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Damn, still didnt fix the wifi, but reception is much better, battery is slightly improved. Im guessing its faulty hardware causing the wifi problems :/
Cuzmanbro said:
Damn, still didnt fix the wifi, but reception is much better, battery is slightly improved. Im guessing its faulty hardware causing the wifi problems :/
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Yea probs..
Sent from one of the few remaining Incredible S'
Have you tried taking the back cover off and making sure the contacts are clean. And you have to make sure the cover is put back on properly. The radio and WiFi antenna are in the back cover.
Sent from my Incredible S using xda premium
Burtrum57 said:
Have you tried taking the back cover off and making sure the contacts are clean. And you have to make sure the cover is put back on properly. The radio and WiFi antenna are in the back cover.
Sent from my Incredible S using xda premium
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yep, i've even tried that aluminium foil modification
I have had trouble with reception too, I did all that i could think of,
clean the contacts,
tried a new back cover,
used every radio under the sun (slight exaggeration)
the foil mod... etc
Whatever I did nothing seemed to help it.
But then one day i thought of electrical wires and thought if I could strip a wire back and just get a few strands of copper, it should work.... and IT DID!
now i have full bars where before I had little or none.
Moral of the story: When in doubt, use copper.
jonnypommy said:
I have had trouble with reception too, I did all that i could think of,
clean the contacts,
tried a new back cover,
used every radio under the sun (slight exaggeration)
the foil mod... etc
Whatever I did nothing seemed to help it.
But then one day i thought of electrical wires and thought if I could strip a wire back and just get a few strands of copper, it should work.... and IT DID!
now i have full bars where before I had little or none.
Moral of the story: When in doubt, use copper.
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lol, ill give that a try when i find some copper