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iphone emulator persay...?

Everywhere you look is special applications designed for the iphone. Well...I personally don't have one and I think I should be allowed the same privilege to use said applications.
So what I'm wondering is how do applications run on the iphone? Is it a special kernel?
And if so, would it be possible to incorporate a sort of emulator of the iphone on our mobiles to run these iphone specific applications?

Cat Eye said:
I personally don't have one and I think I should be allowed the same privilege to use said applications.
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WTF? As you said, they're iphone apps, that are made to run on the iphone... If you want to run them, buy one. Or find equivalents for WM.
The iphone is a completely different hardware and software platform than a PocketPC.

kilrah said:
WTF? As you said, they're iphone apps, that are made to run on the iphone... If you want to run them, buy one. Or find equivalents for WM.
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Whoa, cool your jets and get over this WM/iPhone rivalry.
Check this out CatEye: http://microsoftwow.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!28962096F48747EA!212.entry
I don't know anything about other than seeing the web page. Let us know if you have some luck.

Thanks for the responces. I've seen the whole launcher before but that's not what I'm refering to.
When you go to a site (meebo or Facebook) they have iphone specfic applications. What makes it so those work on the iphone plateform?
I tried to get one of these applications but it tries to take me to the apple store and I don't have itunes so it stops me there.

lol....WM is wayyyy better than the iPhone! (well in my opinion).
XD but i wish WM had multi touch! Can't wait till WM7 or 8 come out! (rumours say that they will have software enabled multitouch!) :O

Don't think it's gonna happen...
AFAIK, there is nothing that will allow you to run iphone programs on wm, and there is probably about a snowball's chance in hell of that ever happening. Iphone is definitely a different kernel, in fact, it is an entirely different operating system, and to make matters worse, it's closed source too. I would just try to find the equivalent applications for windows mobile. For some reason, despite the fact that there are much more users of wm, many websites are obsessed with being supported by the iphone. It's a sad reality, but unfortunately, this is how it is.
Dave

Cat Eye said:
When you go to a site (meebo or Facebook) they have iphone specfic applications. What makes it so those work on the iphone plateform?
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Programmers develop a specific version of their website, or stand-alone programs especially for the iphone in addition to the "normal" product. They could do the same for WM - but now the hype is about the iphone, so that's where developers are investing.
That's 100% marketing and fashion. Apple have managed to create such a hype over their iphone that it has simultaneously pushed developers to develop content specifically for it as they would be assured to reach a large audience with it, and people to get one so they could gain access to the said content and goodies - and it worked way too well. The Iphone is the current trend and everybody must make something for it to be "in the move", while people must have one to be in the move (most of the people I know who have bought iphones did it because it's the current "must-have" item, not because of it's capabilities, and they don't use them...)
WM has been around for more than a decade more or less "unnoticed", so there's not the same incentive for people to make stuff for it.
The Iphone triggered a huge workforce, so many people developing stuff for it in such a short time, that maybe in a few months there have been as many programs developed for it than for WM in the last 10 years... and the appstore gathers them all in one easy to search place as opposed of the large scatter of WM stuff everywhere... makes it so easy that it's attractive.
So in summary - it made such a hype that everybody in the general public is gathering around that thing and forgetting the rest.

kilrah said:
WTF? As you said, they're iphone apps, that are made to run on the iphone... If you want to run them, buy one. Or find equivalents for WM.
The iphone is a completely different hardware and software platform than a PocketPC.
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I second this motion!

What I'm aiming for is sort of a cross-platform. Like how Linux can be run with Windows now. Trying to knock down some of the propiatory software apple has been getting developed. If they can't keep thier software specific to the iphone, then what would be the reason to get one? Something that can play music and go online?
Just something to throw out there.

I think part of the problem is all you need is a mac and you can start coding an application, there's nothing else to buy. On the WM side, while you can download the SDK for free, you have to spend another chunk of money to buy visual studio, which sorry to say, does require a bit of knowledge to code with.
I have a mac, and had an iphone for a little while, and was able to design an application fairly easily.
If MS would create development tools easier to use and free/cheap, I think we would see more applications. The other tough part is, the windows mobile phones out there are more varied. Different form factors, keyboards, touch screens, resolutions, gps, and now accelerometers. At the moment there are 2 different iphones, but they run the same version, same resolution, same hardware buttons, the other differences are already exposed in the SDK so if you want to code and app that uses the 3G connection or GPS it's pretty easy to do so.
If any WM dev guys have some good ideas on free coding let's get going.

iphones run macosx like macs thats a gui on top of a bsd unix based kernel
iphone apps are written in objectC and use cocoa which is a bit like .net
any cpu can emulate any other if it have access to enough memory
mind you it will not be in realtime but much much slower
not to mention that it could take man years to develop the emulator
and prob give a lawsuit or 2 from apple

Rudegar said:
not to mention that it could take man years to develop the emulator
and prob give a lawsuit or 2 from apple
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Funny how Apple came out with Bootcamp within seconds of announcing they were switching to Intel processors , but let one person come up with an OSX emulator and the lawsuits fly.
P. S. The Kaiser is pushing two years old, it is still amazing to me that we are still having these " how do I make my Kaiser look and act like an iPhone. " discussions
P.P.S. What are you when you reach 10,000 posts ? A Super Senior Member ?
Given a Gold Watch and put out to pasture ?
I know , your wife serves you with divorce papers and names That #@$*ing phone as the reason.

App development

Arrrightt,
so i want to start cooking some apps and will be doing my own testing...unless there are daring enough people to try. Before i send it out i'll be sure to break it in on my own before i send out some defective thing
Anyways i have a few questions before i get started, is there a tutorial on here or somewhere on how to write apps or is there a way to re-write an existing app (for another os) to work on the android os
Cheers

There are a number of places you can start:
1) The Android SDK website has some simple tutorials http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html
2) Anddev.org http://www.anddev.org/ has tutorials of various nature.
3) In the dead tree world there are a couple of books I would recommend:
- "Hello, Android" by Ed Burnette: A good starters book but a little light on content in my opinion.
- "Professional Android Application Development" by Reto Meier: A more substantive book. If you like the Wrox programmer to programmer series of books (which I do) you will like this one. Still not as thorough as I would like but a good book.
- "The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development" by Mark L. Murphy: I have not gone too far into this book yet so can't comment on it much. I think this will be my favorite of the three over time. It is a better book if you like to read a chapter to learn a fundamental concept. My gut feeling is it will be a better reference book as well.
4) The android developers blog is a nice place to read for tips on optimizations and such: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/
Beyond that study the javadocs and samples that are out on the web.
As far as porting an existing application to android goes it depends a great deal on what language the original was written in and how UI dependent it is. If the original application was not written in Java I would not recommend trying to port it unless you are intimately familiar with the original project. If the original project was written in Java then port for non-ui elements is generally straight forwad. Keep in mind however that the UI will need to be rewritten from scratch and further the limited screen real estate and memory will need to be taken into account. Writing an app for an embedded environment (whether Android, Symbian, Windows Mobile, or something else) has different priorities, first and foremost is optimizing for limited CPU. Where a traditional interface coupled app with loose control over object creation and destruction works fine on the desktop it does not do so well on an embedded platform.
That is all I have at the moment. Hopefully that will give you some avenues to explore and good luck!

yea i am reading through hello, android at the moment and i like it so far. ive never touched android before, and i know a little java, and the explanations seem pretty good to me.

eclipse doesnt run properly on windows vista 64 bit
im seriously crying i get errors trying to get it to work

insanemonkey said:
eclipse doesnt run properly on windows vista 64 bit
im seriously crying i get errors trying to get it to work
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I am not a windows guy and but you might try this:
http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/development/readme_eclipse_3.4.1.html#I-General-64bitJava
really this is off topic for this thread though. (If you want help P.M. me or start a new thread with the error message and I can take a look.)

Anti-Virus for WP7

Being certified by Microsoft and specializing in Internet security, I know that Windows is the most targeted operating system for viruses, trojans, malware etc. Surely there must be an anti-virus by now for WP7.
After doing a search in the Market Place I didnt find any. There were anti-virus applications for WM6x, Iphone, Android and even Symbian but what about WP7. My guess is it wont be long before we need some sort of anti-virus protection for our devices. Picture this, you see a nice application from an independent website which wets your whistle. You install it by Toms Xap installer and your phone goes off. You try to restart but it refuses. The boot screen comes up with a message saying you are a victim of a virus which has now rendered your phone into a very expensive paper weight. It is possible and installing Xap applications through Toms Xap installer makes us even more exposed to malicious applications. WP7 Market Place scans applications and games to make sure you are protected. I'm not trying to scare people here so please dont get me wrong but I am trying to open peoples eyes and urge you to be cautious when installing applications which are not from WP7 Market Place or Xda.
I thought I would create this threat for the Xda community to share their views on this.

Personally I wont bother, its up to the users. Its all documented on Google.
see here: http://www.techgazing.com/2010/01/11/do-i-need-an-anti-virus-for-my-phone/
Russ

I would have to say that is a very interesting read. Nothing in there were mentioned about WP7. All I am saying is to be careful. That article claims there are 420 mobile phone viruses and most targeted is Symbian. This is because Symbian have been out longer than Android, Iphone and WM. Symbian certainly bought out more phones over the years so this would explain why they were targeted.
The case where the anti-virus company actually had a virus and passed it on through updates was shocking. That should never have happened and was very negligent of the anti-virus company.
Although people may think it will never happen to them, for the occasional few it does. People take out mobile phone insurance but how any people claim insurance? Why pay money for insurance when you dont take measures to backup your data and protect your device?
The internet is full of traps and data collecting nasties and you never can be sure that what ever you are downloading is 100% safe. Dont you think better to be safe than sorry should be a moto well remembered?

What you are missing is the fact that WP7 apps run completely sandboxed - they cannot reach out of their own little world.
Sure, installing a homebrew app which includes native code may circumvent this but I'd say that's the risk you take when geeking around with your phone

I think an antivirus-software is a totally useless investion of money for now.
You say, windows is the most targetted OS for viruses. Yeah, for sure, because most of people use it.
But its another thing if you look onto the mobile operating systems. The users are spread in 3-4 groups there: WM, Android, iOS and maybe the Blackberry OS.
So the virus-programmers need to choose first, for which platform they are going to write some malicious code. They are never gonna hit that much users as they would hit with Windows for Desktop.
I never heard of any popular virus for any mobilephone including WM-phones.
Secondly, WP7 is a totally new OS. For now, the count of people using this OS is way lower than that of Android and iOS - Users.
So why should hackers choose WP7 especially now as their victim?
My opinion for my last 5 years of using mobile operating systems is: You dont need it.
You have the same ability for sideloading apps with android and iOS too for now and they are much longer on the market than the new WP7 and I never heard of any viruses.

Anti-virus software is a complete waste of money, i dont use it on any of my 3 windows computers or any phones...

mideel said:
I never heard of any popular virus for any mobilephone including WM-phones.
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Norton and Kaperski have both had anti-virus on Symbian and WM
scbrother said:
Anti-virus software is a complete waste of money, i dont use it on any of my 3 windows computers or any phones...
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OMG are you trying to commit online suicide lol

AndHD2 said:
Norton and Kaperski have both had anti-virus on Symbian and WM
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read my post again. I didnt mean anti-virus-software, I meant viruses!

mideel said:
read my post again. I didnt mean anti-virus-software, I meant viruses!
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I think I had a Homer Simpson moment then.....Duh lol

i do not think antivirus on Phone is necessary. it will rather slow down stuff.

There is only 1 (ONE) existing virus for WM 6.x. Funny enough it was created by Kaspersky in order to demonstrate that viruses are possible and ppl should install AV software
Viruses for WP7 are almost useless as apps are completely sandboxed. Same thing with iOS. Only Android offers enough freedom for malicious code and then again only if rooted.

AndHD2 said:
Being certified by Microsoft and specializing in Internet security, I know that Windows is the most targeted operating system for viruses, trojans, malware etc. Surely there must be an anti-virus by now for WP7.
After doing a search in the Market Place I didnt find any. There were anti-virus applications for WM6x, Iphone, Android and even Symbian but what about WP7. My guess is it wont be long before we need some sort of anti-virus protection for our devices. Picture this, you see a nice application from an independent website which wets your whistle. You install it by Toms Xap installer and your phone goes off. You try to restart but it refuses. The boot screen comes up with a message saying you are a victim of a virus which has now rendered your phone into a very expensive paper weight. It is possible and installing Xap applications through Toms Xap installer makes us even more exposed to malicious applications. WP7 Market Place scans applications and games to make sure you are protected. I'm not trying to scare people here so please dont get me wrong but I am trying to open peoples eyes and urge you to be cautious when installing applications which are not from WP7 Market Place or Xda.
I thought I would create this threat for the Xda community to share their views on this.
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Apparently the certificate and specialization doesn't help much when there is lack of reading. Sorry, you've started your post with that sentence and it only makes you look silly.
If you've read even ONE review of this OS you'd realize that it lacks multitasking! That saidb there is no possibility (yet) of an application (AV) running in the background to check files/processes. Besides this OS is so closed you can't even download unsupported files! Today I couldn't download a simple .rar archive - it said that WP7 doesn't support this filetype
As for sideloading applications it's not officially supported by MS so it's just one of the "risks" advanced users need to cope with as Microsoft is checking each application before posting it on the marketplace. Plus the applications written are all in managed code and we don't even have access to system functions. Even simple functions like reading the battery percentage are unsupported.
So there is technically an extremely low risk of viruses in this pretty much closed OS.

I can't imagine AV's impact on already poor battery performance on HD2 WM7.

P$YCH0 said:
Apparently the certificate and specialization doesn't help much when there is lack of reading. Sorry, you've started your post with that sentence and it only makes you look silly.
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Agreed. And most of us are used to flashing a new ROM every week, which is all you'd really need to do to recover from a 'virus'. I'm struggling to see what the danger is, especially on WP7.

Poor battery performance?
iBimmer said:
I can't imagine AV's impact on already poor battery performance on HD2 WM7.
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What exactly are you doing to cause poor battery performance with WP7 on your HD2? It is probably the best battery life I have had on my phone other than an energy rom.

whycali said:
What exactly are you doing to cause poor battery performance with WP7 on your HD2? It is probably the best battery life I have had on my phone other than an energy rom.
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i think most ppl who say something about poor battery perfomance on wp7 hd2 never used push mail on their phones

whats more likely is that you get a virus on you PC that trashes your phone on flash.
ah the good old days when virus wiped BIOSs and totally ruined your day.
I think its highly unlikely anything could happn on the device its self for the reasons mentioned above, worst case you could hard reset, unlike PCs most stuff is backed up, hopefully everything soon (Myphone please MS!!) and it takes a few min to reinstall, doing the same on your PC would mean a day watching movies whilst you set it all back up again.

Obviously this is a pretty safe OS, but if they do get something like Lookout Security I'll get it, simply for peace of mind.

virus/worm problem
I landed here after a search for antivirus for wp7. i use a htc hd7 chevron unlocked and over the last two days i experienced unwanted outgoing email on my live.com account. i use live.com account on the phone and also on PC via live.com and also using outlook connector...
how can i check which is affected with a virus - pc scan using avg shows clean. the unwanted emails go out apparantly when my pc is off - so is the virus on my wp7 or actually on live.com?
according to this post, there couldnt be a virus on wp7 is it??
any help/thoughts will be much appreciated.
TIA

I think my HD2/WP7 has something dodgy monitoring my actions as after I registered my debit card with the Market & made the first 79p payment for the XDA app I get a dodgy email to my Live email claiming to be from my bank saying there has been unusual activity with a html attachment.
This is a fake, but they new my bank and Live email address and the fact that I made some unusual activity: as in the 79p app.
WP7 is open somewhere!

[Q] How limited is WP8 developmentally?

I want to know if there can be a way perform development work on WP8. I want to be able to sideload or somehow install the Nokia Lenses onto my 8X and hope to later dual-boot an OS. I heard with the HD2 that the bootloader, the SDKs, and everything were released to the public for that phone so it was easy to root. It is because of this currently running Windows 8 RT, I read! That is incredible. Do we have that sort of potential with WP8 devices (more specifically the HTC 8X)?

Right now, no. The platform is still new and people are yet to find a way to hack it.
It may happen in the coming months, however, WP8 has extensive security enhancements over Wp7, it is a lot harder to root.

Why do you think they would want to lock it down?

I don't think locking it down is their intended purpose, more like enhancing security overall (businesses complained about security on WP7.5).
I do think WP8 can be rooted, and will probably be rooted, but not in any time soon.

^lol why do people use the word 'root' with windows :facepalm: ignorance or what

nikufellow said:
^lol why do people use the word 'root' with windows :facepalm: ignorance or what
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Cuz that's what it is...

nikufellow said:
^lol why do people use the word 'root' with windows :facepalm: ignorance or what
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The same reason they use the term jailbreak as well.
Anyway, when Chevron team got their tool up against WP7 Microsoft was quick enough to condemn it, then praise the effort, and finally just give the lousy t-shirts to Chevron team members and eventually shut it down. The idea most folks got out of Chevron tools was the availability of the development on the platform without shelling out the dough to MSFT, but MSFT needs the money apparently.

The bootloader has been secured to have a more enticing solution to corporate IT. It is cryptographically signed and the device won't load it if it is altered. This makes it even more problematic than it has been anyway to load CustomROMs onto the device.
Given that since Mango (WP7.5) CustomROMs were the only way to get to Full or Interop-Unlock levels it will be interesting to see how and when we will see unlocks for WP8. Given that most of the system is completely different due to the kernel change most information gained form analysing WP7 won't be helpful. Also the NT Kernel has been hardened on the Desktop and Server platforms so exploitable bugs are less likely than in Windows CE which powered WP7. On the other hand a lot more people analyze the NT kernel for vulnerabilities.
Currently we simply don't have enough information available to predict when and if we will gain system level privileges on WP8 devices (you can call that root or jailbreak or whatever, though I believe Jailbreak to be the more suitable term).

[Q] is there a coming jailbreak/sideloading for windows phone 8?

Hi there,
I was just wondering if there is a jailbreak or sideloading coming to windows phone 8 ,or maybe something like cydia "as on ios" , installing tweaks and stuff on wp 8 because of its lack of apps and modifications, because microsoft is moving like a turtle in developing and updating wp 8 with the simplest features.
I do have a Lumia 920 and i really like it but lack of apps and modification is driving me crazy!!!
so back to our basic question, is there some sort of hacking or dev group that are willing to develop a jailbreak or something like that?

If you were to read the Dev&Hacking sub-forum here, you'd see that people are working on it. This isn't just some magical process where a bunch of hackers sit down, drink a bunch of Red Bull, and write a jailbreak; it is a slow, unreliable, and largely luck-based process undertaken by various volunteers in our free time.

you mean ansar?
is ansar researching on how to jailbreak it? I agree its been forever but understand I have to patiently wait for the hackers to crack it, where or what threads can I read about their progress?

I don't think you actually understand. "Progress" implies and iterative process, where what comes in the future builds on what came before. That's not really how this kind of thing works. Getting from a breakthrough to a widely usable hack can be measured as progress, but getting to that breakthrough... it could happen this afternoon, or it could happen in six months, or it might never happen. "Progress" has no meaning here.
If you want to read our discussions on the topic, the Dev&Hacking subforum is the obvious place here at XDA-Devs; you might also see some discussion at WPCentral.
I haven't seen or heard anything from ansar.ath.gr in months; if he's active here, it's not on this forum. Some of the people from the WP7 forums who actually found the meaningful hacks, like Cotulla and Heathcliff74, are looking, though. Additionally, some people from Windows RT (which is similar to WP8 in many ways) are also looking.

we must start a bounty or kickstarter
GoodDayToDie said:
I don't think you actually understand. "Progress" implies and iterative process, where what comes in the future builds on what came before. That's not really how this kind of thing works. Getting from a breakthrough to a widely usable hack can be measured as progress, but getting to that breakthrough... it could happen this afternoon, or it could happen in six months, or it might never happen. "Progress" has no meaning here.
If you want to read our discussions on the topic, the Dev&Hacking subforum is the obvious place here at XDA-Devs; you might also see some discussion at WPCentral.
I haven't seen or heard anything from ansar.ath.gr in months; if he's active here, it's not on this forum. Some of the people from the WP7 forums who actually found the meaningful hacks, like Cotulla and Heathcliff74, are looking, though. Additionally, some people from Windows RT (which is similar to WP8 in many ways) are also looking.
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ok we need to properly pay a hacker and start a bounty or kickstarter campaign, how should we go about doing this? should we start a bounty on xda like they did for the htc titan hspl or go on kickstarter and what hacker will get the bounty or when the bounty is large enough we present it to a hacker?

Bounties like that are sometimes really good, though they can be difficult to do properly; a lot of "hackers" already have day jobs, and if you want them to work outside of normal hours purely on a for-pay basis, it needs to be a *lot* of pay. When somebody is already making well into 6 digits USD / year, "hiring" hackers is not cheap.
Additionally, remember, this is not something that you can just throw money at to make it happen. There are enough vulnerabilities found in Windows each year that I'm sure there *are* ways out, but most of them are found either by white-hats (who report the issues to MS without releasing them publicly) or black-hats (who use them maliciously, or sell them on the black market). Only on rare occasion does an exploitable vuln appear somewhere that it can be adapted for our use before MS gets around to patching it (although the odds are good that the phone patch rate will be much slower).

It just seems hopeless
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you can developer unlock your than you can sideload some apps. i've done it.
a jailbreak is now not aviable.
sorry for my bad english i'm from germany

Habib.Mouissat said:
you can developer unlock your than you can sideload some apps. i've done it.
a jailbreak is now not aviable.
sorry for my bad english i'm from germany
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Did you actually pay the fees associated, or did you use a workaround? I paid my one time dues to Android dev, not going to pay annually to toy within the box of windows dev. If I had solid idea I wanted to bring to the MS table maybe, but $99/yr, not for experimentation.

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Did you actually pay the fees associated, or did you use a workaround? I paid my one time dues to Android dev, not going to pay annually to toy within the box of windows dev. If I had solid idea I wanted to bring to the MS table maybe, but $99/yr, not for experimentation.
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If you are looking for free stuff, you came to the wrong place.
This is a DEVELOPER'S forum not a place where you can demand things and get all the whistles and bells for your phone.
If you wanna sideload, just pay like the rest of us. Hurry up, till next month, the dev unlock is only 20$.
And nobody cares what you paid for android.

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If you are looking for free stuff, you came to the wrong place.
This is a DEVELOPER'S forum not a place where you can demand things and get all the whistles and bells for your phone.
If you wanna sideload, just pay like the rest of us. Hurry up, till next month, the dev unlock is only 20$.
And nobody cares what you paid for android.
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Wow I don't think I demanded much of anything.. simply stated my opinion. This is why forums become tedious to even comment into. If I didn't something wrong let me know, constructively. Don't have to be a jerk about it.. and if this is a general dev forum why you not care about android like stated? ... simply lame

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Did you actually pay the fees associated, or did you use a workaround? I paid my one time dues to Android dev, not going to pay annually to toy within the box of windows dev. If I had solid idea I wanted to bring to the MS table maybe, but $99/yr, not for experimentation.
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no i get a developer account from my school

ECCsimmons said:
Wow I don't think I demanded much of anything.. simply stated my opinion. This is why forums become tedious to even comment into. If I didn't something wrong let me know, constructively. Don't have to be a jerk about it.. and if this is a general dev forum why you not care about android like stated? ... simply lame
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We don't care about android here because:
a) this is the windows phone forum. for android forum, go to the android forum.
b) why did you bring the payment for android in the first place? this is the windows phone forum, not the android forum. Different OS, different rules.
c) 99% of people asking for sideloads want to do so to avoid paying apps. This is a developer forum and we take offense because WE make the apps you wanna get for free, instead of paying us for our hard work.
d) you can already install apps from SD cards, and you can homebrew apps with dev unlocks (there is even a way to get free dev unlock without being an actual student).
I can understand your desire for custom roms and stuff, but sideloading usually leads to piracy. If you were asked to make a tool that would latter be used to rob you, I do not believe you would be so constructive about it.

Haha!
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installing windows phone virtually on windows pc
has anybody run windows phone 8 or lower OS on windows pc virtually ?
if yes plz guide me to do so....

The only thing I wish I could side load is the Microsoft youtube app that was pulled. That would be worth 20 buck.
But I would imagine side loading is one part of the puzzle only, I bet extracting apps from a phone is probably not possible.

Extracting apps is easy once we have read access to the app's install folder. Getting that read access is the hard part.

RobbieRobski said:
The only thing I wish I could side load is the Microsoft youtube app that was pulled. That would be worth 20 buck.
But I would imagine side loading is one part of the puzzle only, I bet extracting apps from a phone is probably not possible.
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i have the Microsoft youtube xap and im developer unlocked but you can't sideload it its encrypted i wish someone could fix that sigh

noelito said:
i have the Microsoft youtube xap and im developer unlocked but you can't sideload it its encrypted i wish someone could fix that sigh
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Gentlemen, could somebody please confirm that for the interop unlock to work on Samsung ATIV S one has to do developer unlock and purchase a developer license for his Microsoft account? Correct?
Just want to make sure I dig it right.
Thanks.

You need *some* kind of developer unlock. A license from MS is one way, but not the only way; there's also DreamSpark (student-only but free) or I think you get a two-app-limit unlock (and the limit will be utterly removed by the interop-unlock, that's what it *is*) just by entering any valid Live ID into the registration tool.