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So im wondering, what is the standard practise, or based on your own experiences. What is the best way to flash over an existing rom using CWM? What do you do to prepare the fone for new rom, wipe user data, dalvik cache, before or after flashing. Just trying to get a good idea of how to do it.
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going from rom to rom:
put rom.zip on /sdcard/
reboot to recovery
install zip from sdcard
point to rom.zip
flash
reboot
any rom that has been properly done will wipe user data and dalvik cache for you. no need to do it manually
i always flash back to eclair and master clear with odin one click to make sure all files from previous roms are gone then CWM flash new ROM
Pirateghost said:
going from rom to rom:
put rom.zip on /sdcard/
reboot to recovery
install zip from sdcard
point to rom.zip
flash
reboot
any rom that has been properly done will wipe user data and dalvik cache for you. no need to do it manually
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Except I do clear the caches manually, but that's just because I have OCD.
CremeFraiche said:
i always flash back to eclair and master clear with odin one click to make sure all files from previous roms are gone then CWM flash new ROM
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lets look at the master clear function shall we?
when you flash to stock...your entire / is stock (RFS, eclair 2.1, /data /system, etc)
essentially, you have just reformatted your root, think of it like formatting your C drive and your sdcard is like a secondary internal drive that contains storage
master clear at this point will only delete items off your /sdcard
roms dont care about your /sdcard, master clear is worthless when you are stock
there was a time where it was necessary to flash to stock to reset the filesystem and then flash the rom. it has not been needed in months, but it continues to get preached as gospel.
even flashing to stock isnt necessary unless you are trying to come from CM7 or MIUI....or if something goes horribly wrong
Thx for info guys, I have flashed a few times and it seemed like now and then my fone must became bogged down and needed to be fully wiped, sound didnt work or lagfix folders bunch of text docs, just seemed cluttered. So if wanted to really clear out junk what would be a good way without having to flash back to stock?
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Just flash. If you have a problem then back to stock Ans a MC. I have flashed hundreds of time back to stock once.
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Pirateghost said:
lets look at the master clear function shall we?
when you flash to stock...your entire / is stock (RFS, eclair 2.1, /data /system, etc)
essentially, you have just reformatted your root, think of it like formatting your C drive and your sdcard is like a secondary internal drive that contains storage
master clear at this point will only delete items off your /sdcard
roms dont care about your /sdcard, master clear is worthless when you are stock
there was a time where it was necessary to flash to stock to reset the filesystem and then flash the rom. it has not been needed in months, but it continues to get preached as gospel.
even flashing to stock isnt necessary unless you are trying to come from CM7 or MIUI....or if something goes horribly wrong
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I would definitely agree. I have also seen people say to disable lagfix before flashing. I have not done that either and never had any problem.
Would just like to amend the advice already given with the following:
Pre-flashing:
1. Titanium Backup of apps and data
2. Nandroid backup in case something goes boom.
Post-flashing (assuming success):
TB restore of user apps/data only. NEVER RESTORE SYSTEM FILES.
They may not apply to some people, but I feel those are necessary steps for anyone that actually uses their phone daily.
modest_mandroid said:
Would just like to amend the advice already given with the following:
Pre-flashing:
1. Titanium Backup of apps and data
2. Nandroid backup in case something goes boom.
Post-flashing (assuming success):
TB restore of user apps/data only. NEVER RESTORE SYSTEM FILES.
They may not apply to some people, but I feel those are necessary steps for anyone that actually uses their phone daily.
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why not restore system files? Does this apply if coming from flashing back to stock first, or just flashing from one rom to another?
Glad to hear the advice about not flashing back to stock, that's been one of the major reasons I haven't flashed quite as many rom's as I want, too time consuming.........not to say that i'm not flashing a couple rom's a week, but there's just so many options to try
neophile said:
why not restore system files? Does this apply if coming from flashing back to stock first, or just flashing from one rom to another?
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Making "search" a standard practice would be very helpful.
Restoring system is known to mess up ROMs in all cases. Though may not be mandatory, but make it a standard practice to flash stock. Takes hardly 10 mins, and helps save big headaches later.
neophile said:
why not restore system files? Does this apply if coming from flashing back to stock first, or just flashing from one rom to another?
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Incompatibilities across rom versions, mostly. As the guy above me said, restoring system files tends to mess up a rom because you are overwriting part of it with files from a different rom.
There is one caveat, however. If you're flashing back to a rom you originally performed the backup on, you can safely restore system files. For example, if you were running Cog 4.3 and did a full TB backup, then decided to flash Serendipity 6.3, you would want to restore only your user apps and user data. However, if you decided to flash back to Cog 4.3 at some point, you could do a full TB restore without worrying about incompatibilities.
I agree with everyone else. Flashing over another rom seldom causes issues. I make s nandroid backup of my favorite rom with everything setup the way i like it. then flash away trying different roms. When i am done, i just restore my backup and all is good!
I have done a search, couldn't find the specific answer I needed, hence my asking. Could be I wasn't phrasing the search correctly......but here I am.....
To clarify, what do you dpo to get your system settings back after flashing a new rom? I flashed to serendipty 6.4 last night, as per the advice, I didn't restore system files, just apps and data, but that didn't work so well for me. I lost my data connection, could only use my wifi, and had no contacts, or any sms msgs. I don't know what else was missing, but I then went and restored system files, everything came back as needed, and there seems to be no issue......
How do I get my info setting back, or do I just need to manually re-set everything after flashing? Apart from wireless info, msgs and contacts, what else do you lose by not restoring?
Appreciate your help
havent flashed a new rom in a while and forgot if anything extra was needed when flashing a rom over a rom
thx!
Anyone have step by step what needs to be done when upgrading your CM7 rom. om on 115 and i've seen in the newer versions some things have been fixed and i want to update, but do i have to download all of my apps again? contact i grab from gmail so i'm not concerned about that, just apps and data (pics/sounds etc.)
Don't have to do anything at all, just flash the new nightly and you're done.
wont that delete all my data?
no you dont lose your data by flashing a new cm version
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just dont forget to wipe your cache + dalvik cache
I'm considering installing the new UNL3ASH3D custom rom but I have a few concerns. I was running CM7 on my Droid1 so I'm not a total noob with Roms. I've already rooted my bionic and have bootstrap. My main question is in order to install this ROM the directions say to do a full system wipe in order to install. So am I going to lose everything I've already installed on my bionic, like my apps, contacts and SMS? Also, I know that there is a update coming out in November from Motorola to fix bugs and hardware issues. Will I still be able to get that update and other OTA updates with this ROM? Thanks
If you came from an OG Droid, wiping should be nothing new. It's part of the game...
And wait? Up to you man. V3 runs great, and I'm pretty sure a new update is coming tonight. That's a decision for you to make
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Actually no reason not to put 1.4 which is beast...
-Better Battery Life
-Better Security
-Updated
-Less ****z
escott31 said:
I'm considering installing the new UNL3ASH3D custom rom but I have a few concerns. I was running CM7 on my Droid1 so I'm not a total noob with Roms. I've already rooted my bionic and have bootstrap. My main question is in order to install this ROM the directions say to do a full system wipe in order to install. So am I going to lose everything I've already installed on my bionic, like my apps, contacts and SMS? Also, I know that there is a update coming out in November from Motorola to fix bugs and hardware issues. Will I still be able to get that update and other OTA updates with this ROM? Thanks
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You just format/system under mounts and storage instead of wipe data. No need to wipe the data. Wipe dalvik under advanced and wipe cache and you will not lose anything.
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Duffey1 said:
You just format/system under mounts and storage instead of wipe data. No need to wipe the data. Wipe dalvik under advanced and wipe cache and you will not lose anything.
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According to DroidTh3ory, he said-
NO MATTER WHAT ROM YOU ARE COMING FROM
THIS ROM WILL NOT WIPE. IF YOU ARE COMING FROM ANY OTHER ROM YOU MUST WIPE EVERYTHING, AND IN CLOCKWORK UNDER "MOUNTS AND STORAGE" FORMAT /SYSTEM.
Isn't stock considered a different rom? So you would need to wipe everything including data, which in that case you lose everything.
Also, DroidTh3ory will just update UNL3ASH3D when an OTA updates come out. Currently, v1.4 is better than stock so no reason not to update.
Titanium backup?
Make a nandroid?
I did that just in case.
All of my apps were saved in my google account, so Market just automatically re downloaded those.
I backed up all my contacts to a vcard on the SD card. And my pictures/videos/music are already stored on the SD card. What more data is there?
It was a tad annoying waiting for FB and other services to resync my stuff, but that got done, eventually.
uTriple said:
Actually no reason not to put 1.4 which is beast...
-Better Security
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I've seen a couple of references to security regarding the Bionic. Can someone fill me in?
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I switched to v1.4 UNLEASHED yesterday from stock, and so far I'm loving it! I will be using this until the LIBERTY rom gets out of it's current alpha state and gets the official release. I have the LIBERTY ROM on my computer, but I don't think I will flash it, even though I hear the alpha stages of this ROM are excellent. If you would like to try it out, go to chat.andirc.net. Type in any username and in the channel type "#Bionic". This will allow you to download the alpha stages of Liberty.
Spectatr said:
According to DroidTh3ory, he said-
NO MATTER WHAT ROM YOU ARE COMING FROM
THIS ROM WILL NOT WIPE. IF YOU ARE COMING FROM ANY OTHER ROM YOU MUST WIPE EVERYTHING, AND IN CLOCKWORK UNDER "MOUNTS AND STORAGE" FORMAT /SYSTEM.
Isn't stock considered a different rom? So you would need to wipe everything including data, which in that case you lose everything.
Also, DroidTh3ory will just update UNL3ASH3D when an OTA updates come out. Currently, v1.4 is better than stock so no reason not to update.
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This is correct. You MUST do a full wipe whenever you're coming from a different ROM, and as stated, stock is a "ROM". I made a nandroid backup of my stock rom before installing unleashed for the first time, as well as backing up all user apps with Titanium Backup Pro and texts with SMS Backup. Restoring all my apps was a breeze, and all my contacts/whatnot restored automatically thanks to being synced with my Google account. It's painless, just follow the instructions in the main thread and you'll be fine.
Feel free to check out my Channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TweakMyDevice#p/u/1/lwbzzpWUSaI
Hello, I have the Unleashed ROM on the Bionic. If I wanted to go back to the stock ROM I will need to do:
wipe data
wipe cache
wipe dalvik
mounts and storage select format/system
Can I then restore from my backup?
Titanium Backup, grasshopper. Back up EVERYTHING with it. It is the absolutely essential app if you're going to use a custom ROM.
Thank you. I had a backup of the stock ROM that i did before installing the Unleashed ROM.
I essentially loaded with bootstrap did the above and restored with the back with no issues
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I wonder what the TH3ORYROMS [CLARITY] will look like. Do we have any info, will it be vanilla-like?
I have been reading the forum but am a basic noob and am confused. Basically I have a used Revo that already has ZV7 on it that I rooted, everything fine there. The question is can I install GingerVolt 1.3 on here without backing down to a stock rom. I know I have to delete data & cache just want to make sure that if I install GingerVolt on top of the current Rom I don't brick the phone.
Thanks
If you have not put gingervolt on yet you are on the stock V7 gingerbread. All you need to do is get gingervolt on the sd card make a backup in cwm then wipe data, cache, and dalvik flash the rom then wipe cache and dalvik and reboot. All you need to do is read the gingervolt thread all answers to flash are in there.
GINGERVOLTED!
Thanks
Thanks Indyred99, that is basically what I did. I had a Droid Inc before this and I was romming it on a regular basis but some of the post on here confused me a little with the wording and I wanted to make sure I did it correct.
Gave you a Big THANKS . I am now GINGERVOLTED and customizing it now....
One last question what is a good safe Kernal to put on
There is only the one kernel. Blitzkreig.
GINGERVOLTED!
THANKS Again;
I will look that up tonight when I get home.
Rod
droidth3ory has a new version of ICS out now. Here's the link to his post. I take no credit for it, other than letting users of XDA know about it.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/18639-axi0m-b-cm9-403-2182012/
What's different from this and the older version on 2/14 different Dec never heard of axiom or whatever it is ??
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It seems to be a little faster. At least for me it did. You also don't have to flash google apps separately.
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Data fix is Mich simpler too !!!
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bfitzpatrickd2d said:
What's different from this and the older version on 2/14 different Dec never heard of axiom or whatever it is ??
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well... he did kinda say it was new, that could be why you haven't heard of it. Not trying to be rude, but I mean just check out the link and I'm sure your questions will be answered...and the main thing is that th3ory had released a statement saying he was done developing , so if this is indeed a new release that's quite exciting. idk, i haven't been online much this past week due to classes so I don't know if this is now considered 'old' news but as soon as I read the link im sure i'll know.
...........and this is new EXCITING news.... so just read the features list or changelog if you wnat to know what is different.
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well... he did kinda say it was new, that could be why you haven't heard of it. Not trying to be rude, but I mean just check out the link and I'm sure your questions will be answered...and the main thing is that th3ory had released a statement saying he was done developing , so if this is indeed a new release that's quite exciting. idk, i haven't been online much this past week due to classes so I don't know if this is now considered 'old' news but as soon as I read the link im sure i'll know.
...........and this is new EXCITING news.... so just read the features list or changelog if you wnat to know what is different.
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In my first android's forum, they would have released some form of dragon on him, and many other bionic users.
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I am new to using safestrap. I am on Eclipse and want to try this ROM. When I want to revert back, is it easier just to do a restore? The installation steps seem to be the same except for the factory wipe. Why does this have to be done?
For those using this ROM how is the connectivity?
You need a clean partition to install on. That's why you have to wipe before installing. If you don't, you could end up with junk from the other rom still on there and causing the new rom problems.
Far as reverting back, you may want to install eclipse on nonsafe so you can just toggle from safe to nonsafe. If you plan on installing both on safe, you will have to wipe everything each time you switch back and forth.
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If you use eclipse as your daily rom, I suggest installing bootstrap and using it to install eclipse. Then after doing that, install safe strap again and use that to install ics. We have more ics coming out still and you don't want anything but ics on the safe and your regular rom on nonsafe. We will probably see at least 2-3 more versions of ics.
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That is a good idea. As to installing Eclipse in the unsafe partition. I need to make a complete backup of the current safe system. Then toggle from safe to unsafe and do the restore?
What happens when another OTA update comes from Verizon?
More ICS questions when I get that far.
ronaldheld said:
That is a good idea. As to installing Eclipse in the unsafe partition. I need to make a complete backup of the current safe system. Then toggle from safe to unsafe and do the restore?
What happens when another OTA update comes from Verizon?
More ICS questions when I get that far.
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Your probably going to have to start with a fresh install of eclipse from bootstrap. Backups from safe strap and bootstrap aren't compatible with each other from my understanding.
When another update comes, we may have to go back to stock to install it.
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There has been a new version of ics released since this came out the other day.
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If I do not want to use bootstrap, then if I want to revert from tbis ICS version, it is either restore a Safe backup of Eclipse or reinstall the .zip file after the appropriate data,cache wipes?
What do you have running on your nonsafe partition?
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I've never restored a safe partition backup to the nonsafe partition. I've only used the safe to play around with new roms while keeping my main rom on nonsafe. Each time I play with a new rom, I clear everything in safe and write over the last rom I played with. Safe mode is like my Android's playground.
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in the unsafe partition is Verizon's 2.3.4 .902. The safe one has Eclipse.
I just backed up the safe partition. After I try out this ROM, is it recommended to restore today's save to the safe partition or just reload Eclipse from scratch?
I'd keep a backup of stock made, put eclipse on nonsafe, and leave safe for playing around with ics. Sounds like the first thing you should do is back up your stock. After that, install eclipse over it. You may be able to restore a backup of eclipse over it. If you can't, you will have to temporarily install bootstrap, wipe data/cache/etc and flash a fresh copy of eclipse then reinstall safe strap. After reinstalling safe strap, switch to safe and install ics and you will have eclipse on nonsafe and ics on safe.
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I think that is a good goal for when I gain more experience. For now, I will try to flash this ROM and after a while then restore form my Eclipse backup. If that does not work, I can always reflash from the Eclipse .zip file.
ronaldheld said:
I think that is a good goal for when I gain more experience. For now, I will try to flash this ROM and after a while then restore form my Eclipse backup. If that does not work, I can always reflash from the Eclipse .zip file.
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There's only one way to get experience, go out there and do it.
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I was unable to install this ROM as it seem to loop for over 10 minutes. My Eclipse backup would not restore so I had to reflash it.
Is the a special order for this ROM: do the format system and deletes before selecting the. Zip file need to be the order to proceed in?