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Dear Nexus One users!
I'm trying to gather some data for the following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753382
I have a feeling that HTC has tampered with the Desire's power usage statistics in order to make the AMOLED screen seem more efficient.
As far as I've heard (only asked two Nexus One owners so far), the Nexus's display usage is about on par with the Desire's vanilla ROMs, which leaves me to believe that the vanilla ROMs are accurate, and the HTC Sense ROMs are the ones with the problem.
I hope you can help me gather some stats
Thanks in advance!
-edit- Forgot to say: The statistics I'm talking about can be found in Settings=>About Phone=>Battery Use, and I'm interested in the statistics after a day of reasonable to heavy use (web browsing, messaging, phone calls etc.).
It's usually in the 61-80% range even with heavy use. I have to admit that I run the screen on full brightness all the time though, so that can skew the results a little.
Thanks for all the votes so far guys!
Looks like I was right
Getting some good data here... keep it up, thanks!
just thought i would add... (hopefully not too off topic) the HTC Desire (the new SLCD models), the Display only uses like <10%, seems they weren't lying about the battery saving part (this is based on what I've seen on my friend's Desire)
anyways my AMOLED Nexus one is in the 60-70% range and I'm usually in Automatic brightness mode
kwazi said:
just thought i would add... (hopefully not too off topic) the HTC Desire (the new SLCD models), the Display only uses like <10%, seems they weren't lying about the battery saving part (this is based on what I've seen on my friend's Desire)
anyways my AMOLED Nexus one is in the 60-70% range and I'm usually in Automatic brightness mode
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Don't allow yourself to be fooled - AMOLED Desires also often use less than 10% of the battery according to HTC ROMs... which is precisely why I think it's bull****.
Hell, the day before yesterday I kept my display on nearly the whole day, just to test the new power consumption stats (using OpenDesire, and as of 3.1.0 the power consumption statistics have been changed to give pretty much the same results as Sense ROMs) - result: about 10 hours of total battery life (from a full charge!), 6 of which had the display running. Now guess what the new Sense-style battery consumption measurements told me? Supposedly, even though my display had been on all day, it only used 13% of the total battery.
So don't worry - I don't think it's true that your phone uses so much more power - but rather, that HTC has somehow screwed up the power consumption statistics in their Sense ROMs, and the screen is using much more power than they're showing.
And you're not off topic at all. You're a perfect example for someone confused by the discrepancies in power usage statistics. They're not logical, and they're leading you to believe that your AMOLED diplay is using a lot more power than the new sLCD displays in Desires, as well as the AMOLED displays in the older Desires.
My display is always up around 80% of my total use. Everyday its like that. And that's the way it should be unless your device sleeps all day with no use.
When doing your comparison, you also need to post your display-on time, and your total time since unplugged. These are in the same place as your percentages. This way we know the ratio that The display was used and how long the device was unplugged. Otherwise I could post a number but without a reference point its meaningless. What if my screen never turned on once? That certainly skews the result.
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My display is always up around 80% of my total use. Everyday its like that. And that's the way it should be unless your device sleeps all day with no use.
When doing your comparison, you also need to post your display-on time, and your total time since unplugged. These are in the same place as your percentages. This way we know the ratio that The display was used and how long the device was unplugged. Otherwise I could post a number but without a reference point its meaningless. What if my screen never turned on once? That certainly skews the result.
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Theoretically you're right of course. However, so far the discrepancies are so immense that I don't think that's even necessary. Leaving the display on 100% of the time on a Sense ROM doesn't even allow you to crack 20% battery used by the display... Using the display for an hour on the Nexus or an AOSP Desire ROM, gives you at least 40% battery used by the display at the end of the day. Unless someone really keeps their phone off the ENTIRE time, I don't think the clarification is even necessary...
Hello everyone!
Thanks for the useful data. After continued testing by myself and a few other interested people (namely th3, who provided the idea for disproval of HTC's Sense battery use statistics once and for all, and Andycted, who has been providing many useful statistics which helped us get a better idea of general power consumption on the Desire), I've entered the issue on the Android Issues tracker.
You can view the issue here, and feel free to comment and/or star the issue to show your support, as it concerns all Android users. The problem may only be present on HTC Sense, but how will you know if future devices are reporting battery usage correctly if the statistics are so easily tampered with?
Thank you again for your help, support, and very helpful and constructive criticism.
Mine is always between 45 and 55 %, nearly stock FRF91 and minimum brightness
Haha, a friend of mine that just got the SLCD Desire was claiming his screen wasn't burning through the power like my n1 seems to. I guess it's unfortunate that it isn't the case.
I'd wager the SLCD really does use a lot less power when displaying bright colors, especially like white web page backgrounds... but even if your buddy spends his whole day looking at bright web pages (nothing with dark backgrounds), the battery usage of his display should be at the most 10% lower than yours
bemymonkey said:
I'd wager the SLCD really does use a lot less power when displaying bright colors, especially like white web page backgrounds... but even if your buddy spends his whole day looking at bright web pages (nothing with dark backgrounds), the battery usage of his display should be at the most 10% lower than yours
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I totally read your post wrong, sorry.
We have figures for the approximate power drain of the AMOLED screen (155mA black, 485mA white) so where are the figures for the SLCD?
ChronoReverse said:
I totally read your post wrong, sorry.
We have figures for the approximate power drain of the AMOLED screen (155mA black, 485mA white) so where are the figures for the SLCD?
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Back a few years ago (th3 posted a PDF from a company that manufactures AMOLED screens), the figures were around 200-250mW for the LCD (on all screen colors), while an AMOLED of the same size drew 700-something mW on a white screen. Obviously older screens, and smaller in size, but should be comparable...
I'll see if I can dig it up again...
Here it is:
http://data.4dsystems.com.au/downloads/micro-OLED/Docs/4D_AMOLED_Presentation.pdf
we need to get some desire users with the SLCD screen to install the current power draw widget to their homescreen and give us some numbers. or just pull them from the dmesg log. at this point i have pretty good numbers for the nexus amoled screen, and like said above black typically around 140 mA and white 350 mA, but those both a lot of the time go much lower and higher, respectively.
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we need to get some desire users with the SLCD screen to install the current power draw widget to their homescreen and give us some numbers. or just pull them from the dmesg log. at this point i have pretty good numbers for the nexus amoled screen, and like said above black typically around 140 mA and white 350 mA, but those both a lot of the time go much lower and higher, respectively.
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I'll see if I can get said friend to do that then lol.
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I'll see if I can get said friend to do that then lol.
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Please! I'd love to see some exact figures too, if possible with all radios off and in idle. Measurements both on minimum and max brightness preferred
bemymonkey said:
Dear Nexus One users!
I'm trying to gather some data for the following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753382
I have a feeling that HTC has tampered with the Desire's power usage statistics in order to make the AMOLED screen seem more efficient.
As far as I've heard (only asked two Nexus One owners so far), the Nexus's display usage is about on par with the Desire's vanilla ROMs, which leaves me to believe that the vanilla ROMs are accurate, and the HTC Sense ROMs are the ones with the problem.
I hope you can help me gather some stats
Thanks in advance!
-edit- Forgot to say: The statistics I'm talking about can be found in Settings=>About Phone=>Battery Use, and I'm interested in the statistics after a day of reasonable to heavy use (web browsing, messaging, phone calls etc.).
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Nah, it's just that Sense uses more battery, therefore the screen doesn't use as much in comparison
might be a stupid question in general but is any developing heading towards steering up the ****ty smoothness in the galaxy s in general?
feels like im running 5 fps at some points, so i was kinda wondering..
ofc iops is is crap aswell but i dont really mind ****ty accesstimes as long as the smoothness is preserved, so~
can anything be done about this or do i throw this piece of .."phone" under my 70ton excavator? ;(
//regards azure
READ THE FORUM!
There are plenty of fixes.
@Mods: Close this thread asap!
sadly none of em fixes the smoothness, they just boast higher io rate not fps >_<
im not sure if you know what the difference between "rendered frames per sec" is vs "reads/writes from an sdchip" causing i/o lag
but in short it means theres 2 types of "lags" one of them being addressed atm, and sadly its not the fps one.
or are my demands too high to request from the phone? >_<
I'm not really sure what exactly you're referring to when you say "smoothness", but try using a different launcher (I'd recommend LauncherPro). LauncherPro has always felt "smoother" to me!
yes, a good example of smoothness on 2.1. whats worse is that on the new firmwares it constantly dips when it goes beneath 22mb cache causing a frameratedrop, and due to the galaxy s being hampered with vsync w/o the fps to back the refreshrate up it stutters i.e gets halved fps for a short amount of time, might just be a sec or 2 but when its constantly there it starts to grow out as a nail in the eye ;(
and my highest wish ofc is to be able to use the tw appdrawer style which isnt possible with anything else today ;(
although thank you very mucho for the tip and im open for any other suggestions aswell, gonna try to get a hold of the driverfile in the meantime
people are trying to tell you the problem is not in the video, which is true.
you are experiencing the lag, that many are complaining about.
the system lags when you've got too many apps running or iddling in the background.
you can either install the various lag fixes people have developed
or you can simply install a good task manager + auto run killer and control which apps to allow in memory, and which should be closed when not in use.
well quite frankly i dont even need a single app installed or opened to see it, just freshly install any 2.2 fw and pinch, there you have it, open up the apppreviews in the same manner, once again, even if it opens up faster with any lagfix (ill hand you that much atleast since ive tried all availible fw's and lagfixes, kernels you name it) it still looks at the very least as its frameskipping like an old NES >_<
if that is the case, it might be a defective screen/video in your unit.
might want to consider having it exchanged..
I can count at most roughly 5 people that have mentioned something similar to what you found.
Personally i'm still on stock 2.1 and i do not see those flame skipping you have described.
do you have any App specifically where to reproduce this?
i play 3D games and run all kind of apps in my SGS and it've yet to see a skipped frame
aye i do too and i havent noticed anything quite as severe as the homescreen other when the framerate drops from vsync 1:1 to 2:1 or even 4:1 ( clearly visible in quadrant bench when its up on 56 its smooth and when it drops to 30 its choppy) ideally id just wanna rid myself of it since i doubt ill have to worry about screentearing on an sgx540 lol and the biggest hickup would be somewhat soothened since i imagine the real frame drop is less than 50%, anyways thx for the feedback, gonna have it turned in for a check and stop using the ip4 >_<
//cheerz azure
I am coming from a SGS Vibrant. Which IMO has one glaring defect, the GPS. And that Sammy is slow to release source and updates. But the g2x seems to have a slew of problems:
-auto shut down
-major battery drain
-Call quality issues
-screen issues
I realize product forums are going to be very heavily weighted with issues but there seems to be so many for the O2x and I thinking about passing.
All devices have areas of improvements but are there any or many owners who are satisfied with the O2x? Could/would you recommend this phone or is it too early to tell, IE hoping LG with fix some issues with updates?
I would also like to know this, I'm coming from a Vibrant and would love to get the g2x when it releases.
i had sgs and dhd and i'am very satisfied with my leaked o2x
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I am coming from a SGS Vibrant. Which IMO has one glaring defect, the GPS. And that Sammy is slow to release source and updates. But the g2x seems to have a slew of problems:
-auto shut down
-major battery drain
-Call quality issues
-screen issues
I realize product forums are going to be very heavily weighted with issues but there seems to be so many for the O2x and I thinking about passing.
All devices have areas of improvements but are there any or many owners who are satisfied with the O2x? Could/would you recommend this phone or is it too early to tell, IE hoping LG with fix some issues with updates?
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I'm (not) sorry to say, but I don't experience any of these issues.
Battery lasts around 1 and a half day, depending on how I use it. And frankly, that ain't bad at all.
Everyone I've called to say they can hear me fine, and vice versa.
And what screen issues?
And autoshutdown? Never had such a problem..
Very statisfied - it's the best phone I've ever seen.
My specimen has none of the issues I have read about except for very light backlight bleeding.
Dont have any of the listed issues and very happy with my LG
Its a wonderfull phone which will only get better as new firmware are released
really happy aswell, had a few reboots at first but haven't experienced one, in the last 3 weeks. After Paul has started producing rom, the phone has become blistering fast. Came from an iphone, and haven't regretted my swap, fantastic phone
Well, it‘s brilliant to use.
Backlight leak isn't a problem. It's quite minimal. I've had one reboot and one freeze in 2 days. Reboot certainly caused by a bad memory card eject. Freeze was during charge, not happened since. Battery seems good.
If there is a fault and those affected can get repairs or software updates to fix, then living with these niggles is ok. It really is a great phone when its running.
My only issue is no gb yet and i can't root just incase it is a hardware problem.
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Very happy with mine and Paul's ROM just made this device crazy fast. Battery life can improved, hopefully with gingerbread .
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What about the loudspeaker when the phone rings? All the reviews I red said it's very low!
Been using my new 2X for a bit now and haven't noticed anything major. Call quality is more or less like previous phone (ie, fine) and no reboots or hangs yet.
Looking at a black image fullscreen I can see slight bleed from both top corners. Sloppy yes but not a problem for me. My Samsung 24" monitor has way worse bleed all around and that was called "acceptable" by reviewers compared to other monitors.
Mafs said:
I'm (not) sorry to say, but I don't experience any of these issues.
Battery lasts around 1 and a half day, depending on how I use it. And frankly, that ain't bad at all.
Everyone I've called to say they can hear me fine, and vice versa.
And what screen issues?
And autoshutdown? Never had such a problem..
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And that is great. I was hoping that people like you, and others who have posted in the thread, would do just that. On the whole in the general section we mostly read the bad aspects of a device. It's hard to gauge the positives. Hence the creation of the poll. Currently (if you exclude the "show me the results" option)
-65% are satisfied
-15% are not satisfied
-19% say it's too early to tell.
Although the numbers are not optimal, they do paint a much better picture than just reading the problem threads in this section.
Please keep the votes coming so future owners can get a better idea of the scope of the problems, or lack thereof, with the o2x.
It's quite the opposite in the Arc section, people are very satisfied up there
I love this phone! Yes it has some small problems for instance the fact it cant run mkv video's without stuttering is silly but that will be fixed sooner or later. I dont have any problems with it and since paul's custom roms it runs like hell!
I liked the phone, but I had some issues with the LG modded Android firmware the phone came with. Contact list was not syncing properly and I had was annoyed by the crap apps installed and "recommended".
However, I installed Pauls MoDaCo firmware and was amazed how much better it was. Leaner and meaner. More stylish.
I hope a mod will be made quickly off of the 2.4 release with dual core support, but it's very responsive as it is now.
This is my first smartphone so I don't have much to compare with, but I devote a considerable amount of time to tweaking my workstation desktops so I am sensitive to slow devices of all kinds. Hate them..
3 days of use...mostly pleased
Had my LG 2X for 3 days now. Obtained in UK from King of Gadgets.
Had a couple of lock ups during charging, however since setting the phone to stay awake during charging I've had no difficulty. Battery life is good..I'm at 70% after 15 hours mild use.
Apart from the couple of lock-ups I like the phone,..it is fast and smooth. Came from a HTC Hero running 2.2. I did not like the LG skin and look forward to loading some customs ROMs, once I'm convinced I'm keeping it.
hope this helps
Best phone I've ever owned (And I have owned al lot of phones!!).
Only issue, once in like 10/16 days, a autodhutdown...
Doesn't bother me tho.
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Android has native multi core support already.
SykesAT said:
I am coming from a SGS Vibrant. Which IMO has one glaring defect, the GPS. And that Sammy is slow to release source and updates. But the g2x seems to have a slew of problems:
-auto shut down
-major battery drain
-Call quality issues
-screen issues
I realize product forums are going to be very heavily weighted with issues but there seems to be so many for the O2x and I thinking about passing.
All devices have areas of improvements but are there any or many owners who are satisfied with the O2x? Could/would you recommend this phone or is it too early to tell, IE hoping LG with fix some issues with updates?
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please post your sources regarding these problems, i have found no such claims on the internet
lg o2x
my lg o2x don't have any of those problems.
everything is working perfect.
Hi,
I've had Samsung's for quite a while. The S2, the S3, and I currently have the Note 2.
There are a few reasons that I'm thinking of swapping my Note 2 for an Xperia Z. One of them is due to the size. Like I fool, I never actually used the Note 2 before I bought it, and I'm finding it a bit too big (if that's possible!) in certain situations. I held a non working dummy XZ the other day, and it felt so much better. Add to that I actually prefer the design of the XZ, and a few of the features like being water resistant, etc.
So, I've been doing a lot of research online, and sometimes the Note 2 comes out on top, and others the XZ. I thought I might ask some questions and for some advice, and see what people have to say.
1. The MAIN thing that is holding me back at the moment is the display. I see that the XZ has a higher resolution screen, however I can see on most of the videos and reviews online that the colour looks really washed out when compared to the Note 2 (and other Amoled displays). My question is, if anyone has gone from the Note 2 or similar to the XZ, is it really noticeable? And whilst this might seem like a bit of a weird question, but are there any apps that can 'increase the saturation', etc? I know on the Note 2 there are actually settings on the phone for different display/colour modes.
EDIT: I have read on a few blogs that there might be an update coming with something called White Balance. Does this make much of an improvement? And I assume it affects the display as a whole, not just when viewing pics, etc?
2. Battery Life. I know the Note 2 has a bigger battery. I'd say that if I heavily use my Note 2, it's normally at about 20-30% in the evenings when I go to bed. How do people find the battery life?
3. Widgets - I use widgets a lot. On the Sony, can you still place widgets that are part of downloaded apps? For example, I have a downloaded clock on my Note 2 that also adds widgets to the phone. I'm assuming as they are both Android that the XZ will have this too, but wanted to make sure there weren't any restrictions that Sony had implemented to stop this.
4. In some of the reviews, they have mentioned issues with call quality, wifi signal, over heating, crashes, etc. The reviews have mainly been from just after the phone was launched, so I'm not sure if perhaps there may have been updates since then? But has anyone had any of these issues?
Any advice on the above would be very gratefully received!
First of all, welcome to the xz subforum let's see if I can answer you some questions.
1) I don't think the screen is washed out but it's different than Amoled screen with tend to have more vibrant/over saturated colours but you will get used to it unless you keep comparing them. But the bravía engine will add that saturation you might miss from Amoled screen (for now bravía engine only works on gallery and movies app). Have into account that the rom theme is dark grey not black because it might make you think it doesn't display good blacks but it's just the theme.
White balance changes the tint of the screen ie if you think it's too red or green you can correct it.
2) Right battery life on screen time is not the best for now in stock you will get around 4-5 on screen time. Time will tell if ROMs/kernels can improve that. But stand by battery is Great, some people have reported around 6 days with light usage. So the biggest drain is from screen usage but it gets compensated by the off screen battery consumption.
3) I don't think there is any problem with the widgets unless they have a dependence with a different launcher than stock android.
4) I haven't had a crash yet, wifi signal is alright, I find antenna signal quite good, I does heat a bit but as any new Quad core does and glads doesn't propagate heat that much so it's more concentrated on the CPU zone, it's nothing worrying it's just warm.
All and all I find it a great device, obviously there is always room but improvements but give it time let's see what our developers can improve or sony itself.
At the end of the day is your device and no one can decide for you.
I hope I helped you a bit more to decide and if you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask here.
Sent from my C6603 using xda premium
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First of all, welcome to the xz subforum let's see if I can answer you some questions.
1) I don't think the screen is washed out but it's different than Amoled screen with tend to have more vibrant/over saturated colours but you will get used to it unless you keep comparing them. But the bravía engine will add that saturation you might miss from Amoled screen (for now bravía engine only works on gallery and movies app). Have into account that the rom theme is dark grey not black because it might make you think it doesn't display good blacks but it's just the theme.
White balance changes the tint of the screen ie if you think it's too red or green you can correct it.
2) Right battery life on screen time is not the best for now in stock you will get around 4-5 on screen time. Time will tell if ROMs/kernels can improve that. But stand by battery is Great, some people have reported around 6 days with light usage. So the biggest drain is from screen usage but it gets compensated by the off screen battery consumption.
3) I don't think there is any problem with the widgets unless they have a dependence with a different launcher than stock android.
4) I haven't had a crash yet, wifi signal is alright, I find antenna signal quite good, I does heat a bit but as any new Quad core does and glads doesn't propagate heat that much so it's more concentrated on the CPU zone, it's nothing worrying it's just warm.
All and all I find it a great device, obviously there is always room but improvements but give it time let's see what our developers can improve or sony itself.
At the end of the day is your device and no one can decide for you.
I hope I helped you a bit more to decide and if you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask here.
Sent from my C6603 using xda premium
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That's very much appreciated, thank you very much! You may well have made my decision easier
I agree with wawyed's analysis. I was in market for note 2 esp for all the cool extra software features. But when I compared two working models of note 2 and Xperia z, I couldn't help loving the Xperia z. Btw, the screen of Xperia when compared with note 2 is really well lit and color reproduction is very nice. I am coming from iPhone 4s so a good camera was important for me and I will say Xperia is notches above note 2.
It does get hot but so did my iPhone 4s.
Batterylife is awesome for me.... I have been for 13 hrs and my battery is 53% I spoke for 1 hr, 3g-WiFi on, on screen notification via lockerpro, fb sync, Twitter sync and exchange email on push.
Only phones that I feel might compete with Xperia are galaxy 4 and HTC one.
I simply love almost stock feel of Xperia.
Swraj
Hi all,
As you know, I got this device a couple of weeks ago as a upgrade (birthday pressie).... and on the whole, I am might impressed with it. Compared to previous phones, this is awesome....
However, one odd thing I am experiencing... is battery life? Whilst I read reports of this device and the other I was looking at, Note 10 5G. Both had 5000mah batteries, and reviews RAVED about how good battery life is in them. Some even saying it can be used as a Battery Bank to charge other peoples phone.
However in actual use of the phone, I'm afraid to use it... for merely tapping a few icons, browsing web and running/opening camera... I literally am watching the percentages drain... I thought this thing would be rock solid, and can generally browse/mess around and the battery will slowly decrease...?
Don't get me wrong, if I don't touch it and leave it in standby it will claim to last at least a couple of days... or that said, running it as SatNav and not touching the screen on a 30min drive, it didn't drain the battery at all and stayed at 100% (which did surprise me).
But to me, what appears as light use, tapping icons and surfing around see's it draining fairly quickly. I dread to think if I was playing a high end game, it will prolly be gone in 5 mins.... Good job I don't do games... lol
Cheers, Lister
Morning Lister .. ya got your paddling pool ready for tomorrow lol
Mines been quite doing the same playing with gcam ( I haven't uploaded the XML yet , reming me to do it later ).
I have noticed the battery draining quicker when the screens set to 90mhz , as I've read elsewhere that seems quite normal as the phone has to refresh the screen faster than it would on 60 . Signal strength can be detrimental too , a bad signal means the phone tries harder to pull it in and uses more battery in the process .
When I've finally got everything set up I'll see how long I can get on a charge , still got to copy me 3 stooges collection on to it , all 65gb of it
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I have noticed the battery draining quicker when the screens set to 120mhz
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I think this phone has 90hz refresh rate, not 120mhz. Maybe u wrote it by mistake.
Hi The Mero,
Oh don't, I am not a sun lover at the best of times and these last few days/week's been killing me... lol.
I am, as we speak, practicing my Snow Dance !!! ;-) LOL
Yeah, seems odd that a camera can zap that much battery. I get it has to do a couple of things, active viewfinder, take the pic and then use processing power to render the output. But after reading all the rave reviews, this battery will last you into the next pandemic and all that... It to me, just seems to drain a little too quickly for my liking. I was expecting to get some fun time, without watching the battery drain down...
I think this screen can only go to 90mhz, but that said... I even have my set to the standard 60mhz. I not really played around with it, but it seems quick enough for me at 60mhz and every bit of battery helps. Like being in a heatwave and keeping ya aircon off, whilst sitting at the traffic lights with windows open... Gotta save that fuel/battery... ;-) lol
I did look at battery drain, and Mobile Standby did seem high, which is odd as its never been an issue with my older phones in same location. I'll keep an eye on that though, cheers....
Lister
Gun Striker said:
I think this phone has 90hz refresh rate, not 120mhz. Maybe u wrote it by mistake.
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Sorry I was thing of me old x3 NFC striker lol . Thanks for correcting me
Hi The Mero,
I just noticed this thread pop up, which is similar thing... It seems a few are getting the high Cell Standby for no reason at all... Although they appear to be on the updated version...??
"Cell Standby" battery drain on latest MIUI Global 13.0.12?
Hi, everyone. I bought a Redmi Note 11 Global a few days back and while setting it up, I was amazed at the battery life. It was at 56% when I opened it up, and throughout the entire setup process and after around 5 or 6 hours of screen on time, I...
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That said, I do have Calls over WiFi enabled, as it's the first time i've owned a phone that supports and is now available on my plan (PAYG lol). So I enabled it, just to try it out... lol
But apparently, this can be a zapper and cause the Cell Standby issue. Might try disabling it, and see if Battery Life improves....
Cheers, Lister
I'm on PAYG too , I turn off internet calling ( volte ) I had an issue on the X3 where you could hear the other person but they couldn't hear you . Some said it was a flaky mic and some said volte ( another name for it ) . Anyways I knocked it off and calls were fine after that . So if you start getting the same issue give that a try . Plus battery issues could be down to the CPU not behaving . Russian forum had some with the CPU stuck at full throttle while others were stuck at lowest speed . All using different miui versions or custom ROMs , this is getting worse every time we read about it
This phone is in need of a custom kernel. I think the default CPU/GPU governor is not properly optimised. We don't want the CPU to fire up all its cores and constantly hit 2.4Ghz while playing candy crush.
Also, MIUI 13 is so restrictive and bland. We are losing controls and features with each new update.
This amazing hardware needs a divorce from its retarded software.
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Obi_Wlan said:
This phone is in need of a custom kernel. I think the default CPU/GPU governor is not properly optimised. We don't want the CPU to fire up all its cores and constantly hit 2.4Ghz while playing candy crush.
Also, MIUI 13 is so restrictive and bland. We are losing controls and features with each new update.
This amazing hardware needs a divorce from its retarded software.
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In my case, the amazing hardware broke up with its retarded software and is currently married to this chick named Pixel Experience. The experience is way way smooth and is something we and the hardware totally deserves. Though yes we really need a custom kernel, I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now
Alex Zander-kun said:
In my case, the amazing hardware broke up with its retarded software and is currently married to this chick named Pixel Experience. The experience is way way smooth and is something we and the hardware totally deserves. Though yes we really need a custom kernel, I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now
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Same here, unlocked bootloader and currently on Evolution X. Though all google apps and services are debloated so basically vanilla. I get 10 hrs screen on time with about 40 hrs standby
Hi All,
The battery on this device is really really shocking.... as in shockingly bad !!!
When I read about 5000mah ( basically double anything I've had prior ) and how good the reviews for battery life were on these devices. I had high hopes, I thought Id be able to tap away, causally wasting hours watching pointless YouTube and whatnot...
However here I am, re-arranging icons.... Configuring Applications (TruePhone and it's GAZZILION options), and watching the percentages just drop off, one by one by one.... I bet if I put a chocolate egg outside in this heatwave, it will melt at a slower rate than the battery drains...
Admittedly, I do have a few Apps on it... but no more than when I look at other peoples phones and it's not like I am putting heavy/tasking apps on. No gaming apps or anything like that... And to watch it go from 100 to 70 in what I think is a short time, is somewhat depressing...
I'll have to charge the ole 5000mah phone up and carry a couple 20,000mah at this rate... lol.
I've even de-bloated some of the system Apps in background... I may treat it to another wipe/reset and test it with barely any load and see what happens...
Cheers, Lister
The Mero said:
I had an issue on the X3 where you could hear the other person but they couldn't hear you . Some said it was a flaky mic and some said volte ( another name for it )
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I've had that issue on my Note 5 as well, and apparently I was not alone and it was in fact an issue that was introduced with Android 10. Turning off VoLTE did work for me, but that of course entailed a significantly worse call quality. I ended up switching to a different carrier and the problem went away. Sucks to see that the issue can still arise on current handsets.
I had a note 5 too , I can't remember if it did it or not, but I switched to a Moto g7 power and it did it on there too . I think your right about the network. I'm on 3 in the UK and never thought of the network being at fault , cheers for that
Alex Zander-kun said:
I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now
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Because they don't want to and there's not really anything people can do about it.
Schmuppes said:
Because they don't want to and there's not really anything people can do about it.
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Under GNU General Public License (GPL) it is mandatory to release a device's kernel source code if it is a modified version of the Linux kernel.
Obi_Wlan said:
Under GNU General Public License (GPL) it is mandatory to release a device's kernel source code if it is a modified version of the Linux kernel.
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I know that they legally have to. But which user will sue them if they don't is what I'm saying.