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Looking at some of the issues with the HD video playback on the Tab 8.9 WiFi, should I even bother with it now or go with some else? I love the size of 8.9, but don't want to blow a chunk of money on something that is not going to perform.
AODfan said:
Looking at some of the issues with the HD video playback on the Tab 8.9 WiFi, should I even bother with it now or go with some else? I love the size of 8.9, but don't want to blow a chunk of money on something that is not going to perform.
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Get the 8.9 LTE, it does not suffer from the crappy tegra 2 video preformance that the wifi model does.
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Get the 8.9 LTE, it does not suffer from the crappy tegra 2 video preformance that the wifi model does.
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So all tegra 2 tablets have the same issue? Wouldn't that be pretty much all of them at the moment right? I don't see myself spending even more money for something that should work or am I not seeing it right?
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So all tegra 2 tablets have the same issue? Wouldn't that be pretty much all of them at the moment right? I don't see myself spending even more money for something that should work or am I not seeing it right?
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Basically yes, it is common knowledge that the Tegra 2 chipset does not preform very well with high bitrate video of various types.
The reason being, that NVIDIA decided not to include the "NEON" chipset instructions in the Tegra2 chip.
The NEON cpu instructions are for hardware acceleration of video decoding, the Tegra2 has to do in software, what the Qualcomm Snapdragon can do in hardware.
This not only means faster rendering of video, but also lower battery usage for the same video playback.
I regularly watch 15+ GB h.264 bluray rips on my LTE tablet, you absolutely would not be able to do that with the Tegra2 Wifi version.
So in pretty much all aspects the Snapdragon is better any downfalls for the AT&T version I should know of? Model SGH-I957 correct?
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So in pretty much all aspects the Snapdragon is better any downfalls for the AT&T version I should know of? Model SGH-I957 correct?
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Yup it is all around a better chip.
Even the graphics chip in it is pretty damn good, and I dare say comparable (better?) to the tegra 2 in 3d acceleration.
However, having said that, there are a number of "Tegra Optimized" games that will only work / look good on tegra devices, simply because they are coded for it.
To me the only reason to get the Tegra equiped model is if there are some tegra optimized games that you just have to have, and if thats the case, I would just get an ASUS Transformer Prime, which has the new Tegra3 quad core, and does have the NEON acceleration for video as well.
BTW my roomate has the ASUS Transformer Prime, its nice, but I would take my 8.9 LTE over it any day of the week, and twice on sunday
Performance wise, they seem pretty damn equal all around, and infact my LTE sometimes seems faster believe it or not.
Plus I love the 8.9 form factor, the 10" just seems like it wastes alot of space, for almost no discernible difference in screen size.
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Plus I love the 8.9 form factor, the 10" just seems like it wastes alot of space, for almost no discernible difference in screen size.
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This is my primary reason why I'm looking at the Tab 8.9, the size and lightness of it. Generally, new, the Tegra 2 version is 400USD. Compared to the AT&T LTE version, which is 630 new or 480 with a two year contract . . . and 35 dollars a month.
I'd like to pick up a Tab 8.9, likely the Tegra 2 version too. But I'm concerned that Samsung is going to refresh it soon. :/
ok stipid question alert. I presume it would be ok to purchase the lte version to use solely in the UK?
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ok stipid question alert. I presume it would be ok to purchase the lte version to use solely in the UK?
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From what i understand the i957 supports just about every gsm/hspa frequency out there.
Thats the main reason they are using the qualcom chip over the tegra, it supports way more frequencies.
I dot know if its unlocked in the sense it can be connected to providers other then att or not though maybe someone else can elaborate on that.
Thanks for the reply. I guess if I want to use just wifi, that wouldnt be a problem.
my other questions are:
If I can remove all at&t branding in the software?
Can I buy the lte version without the at&t logo on the casing?
If someone could confirm if I did put a UK gsm sim card in it, would it work?
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my other questions are:
If I can remove all at&t branding in the software?
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Root, tibu, then freeze or uninstall at&t bloat at your will.
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Can I buy the lte version without the at&t logo on the casing?
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Not that I'm aware of..
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If someone could confirm if I did put a UK gsm sim card in it, would it work?
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Its carrier locked to my knowledge, so you would need to pay to get it unlocked. Im not sure there is a way to do it on board like the galaxy phones..
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Silly question but I'm still interested in how you guys think the note fairs over the padphone.
post opinions here.
You know of course that there is a small phone unit in our Notes!.
Seriously though,I am the kind of guy who likes to keep his handset in touch and not sort of abuse it by constantly snaping in and out,or box it away in another device or a tab for that matter,since mmy Note does both jobs excellently the Padphone is not for me, actualy not even considered it.
The padfone idea is pretty cool but the specs suck. Would love an accessory to the note with a large highres OLED screen though.
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Zamboney said:
The padfone idea is pretty cool but the specs suck. Would love an accessory to the note with a large highres OLED screen though.
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Second that. Looks cool. Kinda lame specs. Couldn't see my self using one. I have a phablet and a tablet so I'm content
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DOGSofDOOM said:
Second that. Looks cool. Kinda lame specs. Couldn't see my self using one. I have a phablet and a tablet so I'm content
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If the PadFone were a Tegra 3 or TI OMAP 5 or something badass like that, then I would be more tempted.
The Padphone has wins in everything except screen resolution which is negated via tablet.
Snapdragon S4 > Tegra 3 and Exynos 4210.
Very interested... am looking forward to hit actually hitting the market.
(or even announcing pricing would be nice)
if someone creates a 4" phone with a 7"screen then I would say a true combination of portability and big screen functionality.
For Note, the size is still a little too big for portability, while it's a little too small as a tablet.
For padphone, it's not very portable (need to carry a pad and a phone).
I love the idea. If the specs are not up to it, then a waste of effort.
I can see it working really well for the Note, imagine the 10" Note as a dumb terminal for the Note? That would be cool. I imagine Samsung would have to pay Asus quite a bit for the inevitable patent, however.
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The Padphone has wins in everything except screen resolution which is negated via tablet.
Snapdragon S4 > Tegra 3 and Exynos 4210.
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dunno what the heck everyone else in here is talking about but you seem to know what youre talking about.
its not a last gen snapdragon, its a next gen snapdragon. it may not be the S4 pro, but the S4 is already pretty darn fast. for those who havent seen it, the snapdragon S4 dual core outperforms the tegra3 quad core chipset in almost all CPU tasks - thats a dual core beating a quad core.
so NO, the padfone specs do not suck. it has much more processing power than we have, and even though it doesnt have the next gen qualcomm GPUs, it doesnt need it when its in phone mode since it runs at a lower res in phone mode.
the only question is how well will it perform in tablet mode.
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dunno what the heck everyone else in here is talking about but you seem to know what youre talking about.
its not a last gen snapdragon, its a next gen snapdragon. it may not be the S4 pro, but the S4 is already pretty darn fast. for those who havent seen it, the snapdragon S4 dual core outperforms the tegra3 quad core chipset in almost all CPU tasks - thats a dual core beating a quad core.
so NO, the padfone specs do not suck. it has much more processing power than we have, and even though it doesnt have the next gen qualcomm GPUs, it doesnt need it when its in phone mode since it runs at a lower res in phone mode.
the only question is how well will it perform in tablet mode.
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I actually just skimmed it from my phone and saw dual core snapdragon and assumed. If its s4 then ya screen res is really its only draw back
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Unless Asus plans on upgrading the phone each year and keeping it the same dimensions so people can keep the tablet and still upgrade their phones....then I think Padphone idea would be smart. Problem is, every Android company changes their device design which is why they never can keep up with Apple. If Motorola made the lapdock so the it wouldn't need a tethering plan, I think the Atrix may have sold better AND they could have made a docking tablet and cornered the market. The Atrix (for me) was a great phone but At&t and Motorola hosed it up.
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Unless Asus plans on upgrading the phone each year and keeping it the same dimensions so people can keep the tablet and still upgrade their phones....then I think Padphone idea would be smart. Problem is, every Android company changes their device design which is why they never can keep up with Apple. If Motorola made the lapdock so the it wouldn't need a tethering plan, I think the Atrix may have sold better AND they could have made a docking tablet and cornered the market. The Atrix (for me) was a great phone but At&t and Motorola hosed it up.
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i don't think it's a problem since you upgrade the phone and the tablet at the same time for like 20% price more than just a phone
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I actually just skimmed it from my phone and saw dual core snapdragon and assumed. If its s4 then ya screen res is really its only draw back
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if it wasn't PenTile screen the res wouldn't be a drawback
your thinking is exactly the reason why have to sufer the pain of PenTile screens
The padphone looks handsome tho
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Snapdragon S4 > Tegra 3 and Exynos 4210.
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Wow.
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padfone is nice if you are into "3-in-1" thingy. why own an ultrabook, a tablet and a phone; when you can have all of it in one price/package?
but for me, GNote is good enough.
phone - checked.
tablet - changed dpi to tablet mode. and walla, it's a tablet. phablet? the same.
ultrabook - get some wireless keyboard, and hook GNote to big ass LCD screen...
GNote wins hands down...
So, I'm soon expecting a Galaxy Note N7000 for my birthday in two weeks or so. And I've done googling out the wazoo to no avail being able to see if there's an NFC flash like the AT&T one for NFC. But, I came to this. I searched for NFC batteries and came to this website called exportprive and voila! It's a battery for the N7000, presumably from the Korean model, with an NFC chip! Same MaH and all. So I'm wondering, if I jam this sucker into my new phone when it arrives, will it behave as an NFC phone? Or will I need some kinda ICS ROM flash, or tweak to get it working? Or will it just not work and I should give up?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539569
I actually emailed Samsung support about this and got very confusing answers. They said no NFC support in Gingerbread, but ICS would have it. They kept repeating this, and wouldn't say if I needed to buy a battery with NFC or whether the chip was already in there. Here is their answer:
In relation to your query NFC is not supported with the Gingerbread operation system but future updates such as ICE Cream Sandwich may support this function.
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Don't fully understand your answer. Do you mean the Galaxy Note may support NFC with ICS at some point in the future, provided that I purchase an NFC battery? Or is there no need to buy an NFC battery?
As the ICS update is soon, I'd be happy to purchase the NFC battery if were likely to be supported, as I would like to develop applications that make use of NFC "smart tags".
Please be clear with your answer.
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In response to your query, the Samsung Galaxy Note currently would not support NFC with or without an NFC battery. The gingerbread operating system does not support NFC. In the future when the Galaxy Note receives the Ice Cream Sandwich update then the device would have the software that supports NFC.
So there you have it.
But I think the answer is actually no. Samsung customer support just doesn't know anything about the hardware on their phones.
How would ICS communicate with the NFC chip on the battery? I can't believe it has a data bus for that there? Can't see how it would actually be usable.
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How would ICS communicate with the NFC chip on the battery? I can't believe it has a data bus for that there? Can't see how it would actually be usable.
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Well it does... My Galaxy Nexus is exactly the same with the NFC in the battery and it works like a charm.
Now I had the ATT version of the NOTE before I traded it for the International one I have now and what I noticed is the the ATT version has 4 pins / receptors on the battery and the phone itself where the international version only has 3. I am assuming that the 4th pin / receptor would be for the NFC chip and if that is the case then I dont know that the international version is capable of NFC period.
Mmm. Well, I'm sure, absolutely sure, that in the ads on YouTube heralding the great arrival of ICS / premium suite, they would have found a minute or two to tell us that NFC would be available. They didn't, so I think it won't. But I'd love to be surprised to the contrary!
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Well it does... My Galaxy Nexus is exactly the same with the NFC in the battery and it works like a charm.
Now I had the ATT version of the NOTE before I traded it for the International one I have now and what I noticed is the the ATT version has 4 pins / receptors on the battery and the phone itself where the international version only has 3. I am assuming that the 4th pin / receptor would be for the NFC chip and if that is the case then I dont know that the international version is capable of NFC period.
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Exactly. there'd have to be a dedicated port for communication and it sounds improbable they'd put one in but not add the feature to the battery.
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The GT-N7000 does not support NFC at the hardware level. No software will ever enable NFC on the GT-N7000. No battery will either. The North American Note (SGH-I717) does support NFC, but it does it using two bronze pins in the back of the handset that make contact with two pins in the back cover. This allows the NFC antenna in the back cover to operate. The difference in the appearance of the two types of batteries is trivial.
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How would ICS communicate with the NFC chip on the battery? I can't believe it has a data bus for that there? Can't see how it would actually be usable.
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+1 for that
What if they sent us the exynos variants? Since the note 7 replacement would get resolved faster that way, opposed to exchanging every battery in the note which would technically make every device a refurbished, it would take longer that way and would devalue the device...faster way to satisfy customers is sending the varients that aren't exploding which are the exynos varients...
Whats your feedback and thoughts on this!?
Thanks in advance!
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RidinNerdy said:
What if they sent us the exynos variants? Since the note 7 replacement would get resolved faster that way, opposed to exchanging every battery in the note which would technically make every device a refurbished, it would take longer that way and would devalue the device...faster way to satisfy customers is sending the varients that aren't exploding which are the exynos varients...
Whats your feedback and thoughts on this!?
Thanks in advance!
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Probably not happening. I don't think any of the snapdragon models caught fire.
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danon.brown said:
Probably not happening. I don't think any of the snapdragon models caught fire.
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So why is all the U.S carriers recalling the Note 7's SD820 here...??
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So why is all the U.S carriers recalling the Note 7's SD820 here...??
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To cover all angles.
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Not a chance. The carriers need their bloat, and will not recode everything for a different chipset within 2 weeks.
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To cover all angles.
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Makes sense
KillaHurtz said:
Not a chance. The carriers need their bloat, and will not recode everything for a different chipset within 2 weeks.
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Your right..
I guess it was just wishful thinking[emoji18] [emoji18] [emoji18]
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Probably not happening. I don't think any of the snapdragon models caught fire.
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This guy is in the US so I assume it was a Snapdragon model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQOiilJwJ0
@RidinNerdy The replacements will be the same as we have now.
Recall through Samsung and not carriers
What if we send our phones through Samsung instead then to the carriers? Some people in the US bought the phone unlocked and Samsung is offering their own exchange program not for those people but just in general.
Here is the link to Samsungs announcement of the exchange program: http://news.samsung.com/us/2016/09/02/samsung-establishes-u-s-product-exchange-program-galaxy-note7/
The exynos models were the ones that caught fire...not the snapdragon.
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The exynos models were the ones that caught fire...not the snapdragon.
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Yeah but we don't wanna think that, we want the exynos because they have root(ignorance is bliss[emoji18]) , plus it would make sense for them to give us an unlocked version because if i have tmobile version and i exchange it for theirs im sure they are not carrying the T-Mobile/Sprint/Verizon/at&t varients so ill get a debloated note 7 ***PROFIT*** THANK ME LATER!
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being in US doesnt mean he couldn't have Exynos, but AFAIK the problem is batteries made in Korea, not cpu etc. Probably majority of batteries made in Korea would go to Exynos equipped models for local markets and it seems most of Tmo phones are made in China for example, but the problem is most may not mean all and if they were short of chinese batt. in China, they could have shipped some from Korea and If I had to guess, that could be reason for global recall, they may not be 100% sure if some faulty batteries from Korea didn't end up in China made US models. I wonder if there is a program able to read batt info, if such info exist. It blows my mind, that all this could be avoided if only there was simple access inside, like on older models.
If they switched the processors, I would bail out getting the Note 7 altogether. I had a Note 10.1, 12.2 and note 5 all with exynos processors and all of them couldn't handle heavy activity after a certain period of time. Putting the snapdragon processor in the Note 7, S7 and S7edge was smart of Samsung.
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being in US doesnt mean he couldn't have Exynos, but AFAIK the problem is batteries made in Korea, not cpu etc. Probably majority of batteries made in Korea would go to Exynos equipped models for local markets and it seems most of Tmo phones are made in China for example, but the problem is most may not mean all and if they were short of chinese batt. in China, they could have shipped some from Korea and If I had to guess, that could be reason for global recall, they may not be 100% sure if some faulty batteries from Korea didn't end up in China made US models. I wonder if there is a program able to read batt info, if such info exist. It blows my mind, that all this could be avoided if only there was simple access inside, like on older models.
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I like how you think especially since I thought the same way. It seems they are protecting their battery source as they don't want to "out" them. I agree a simple app to detect what battery you have would make sense. They are gonna refurbish the returned phones somehow
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Yeah but we don't wanna think that, we want the exynos because they have root(ignorance is bliss[emoji18]) , plus it would make sense for them to give us an unlocked version because if i have tmobile version and i exchange it for theirs im sure they are not carrying the T-Mobile/Sprint/Verizon/at&t varients so ill get a debloated note 7 ***PROFIT*** THANK ME LATER!
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If you really want to do that, just return your TMo for a refund and then buy the Exynos version from Samsung or a retailer who carries it.
Personally, I prefer the Snapdragon one, that's why I bought from a carrier.
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If you really want to do that, just return your TMo for a refund and then buy the Exynos version from Samsung or a retailer who carries it.
Personally, I prefer the Snapdragon one, that's why I bought from a carrier.
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If i buy it from samsung i cant finance the phone, i have to pay $850 plus tax, if i buy from tmobile store and thrn go to the samsung store ill get:
exynos note 7 varient
No bloat
New battery
Still be under finance
***..profit!!!***
Way better this way, Harvey Dent u are in no condition answer these questions, last time i saw u, u were in the hospital in Dark knight
Thnx kBye![emoji8]
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I have to disagree.
I especially wnt the exynos processor.
Things to consider:
I've had the same models, but my 12.2 pro is lte, so it has the snapdragon 800 processor.
10.1 and 12.2 Wi-Fi were 32bit processors. Those exynos models were behind qualcomm snapdragon at the time, and their scores showed it.
Note 5 was 64 bit exynos, and was faster than 810 snapdragon counter part
808 snapdragon was hexacore and as well, slower.
Hard to compare them, reason they went with qualcomm was qualcomm came out with lte embedded, so it didn't need another module draining battery. Last year's note 5 came worldwide Exynos, and if you compare last year's exynos to this year's snapdragon (hard reset Note 5 vs hard reset Note 7) you would be hard to believe the snapdragon 820 is faster. As a matter of fact it's not, except on paper. I've seen the exynos 88xx blow away the snapdragon 820.
I for one would love it if they replaced them. I'm a Note fanboy. I've had every note except the original, and they've all gotten better, with my exception being they note 7 in terms of software. This is the first time I feel let down
I've had the S7 Edge for the last 5 months, I loved the screen and especially the battery life. Samsung has released a product that just wasnt ready. I don't have a surface thermometer, but I'm being I could bake an egg on this. I don't feel it most of the time, because i have it in a case (platinum, which by the way covers both edges of the screen so you can't use any edge option, and cuts off some letters on web pages) but there's just something wrong this year.
Samsung has started to listen to... the media and websites instead of consumers. Websites complained it wasn't like their beloved Apple, all glass and Prone to break or shatter. They took the IR away. Sealed their battery, made their cameras 4:3 by default, took all their little options away that websites thought werw too much (but could all be turned off if not needed, such as eye scrolling, motion swiping, photo formula text editing (check the note 4 advertising about taking a photo of a paragraph and being able to move it around including the formula)), it just doesnt make sense.
Back to the subject, to me, and i am currently using both, the exynos 7420 found in the note 5 with the gpu mali T760 seems faster in real life than the snapdragon 820 with adreno 530. I suspect after seeing as much that the exynos 8890 in the international version. ( 930FD ) is faster.
Sorry I'm just so disappointed and blown away by how hot this is. And performance is bad all over for me
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being in US doesnt mean he couldn't have Exynos, but AFAIK the problem is batteries made in Korea, not cpu etc. Probably majority of batteries made in Korea would go to Exynos equipped models for local markets and it seems most of Tmo phones are made in China for example, but the problem is most may not mean all and if they were short of chinese batt. in China, they could have shipped some from Korea and If I had to guess, that could be reason for global recall, they may not be 100% sure if some faulty batteries from Korea didn't end up in China made US models. I wonder if there is a program able to read batt info, if such info exist. It blows my mind, that all this could be avoided if only there was simple access inside, like on older models.
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playya said:
I like how you think especially since I thought the same way. It seems they are protecting their battery source as they don't want to "out" them. I agree a simple app to detect what battery you have would make sense. They are gonna refurbish the returned phones somehow
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It looks like THEY were the battery source and it was put into 70% of the phones released.
"Samsung SDI supplied 70 percent of the batteries fitted into the 2.5 million estimated Galaxy Note 7 units that have so far landed in consumer hands and stores. The other 30 percent of batteries have been provided by Chinese battery maker ATL."
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-7-drops-samsung-sdi-batteries-714788/
sledgie said:
I have to disagree.
I especially wnt the exynos processor.
Things to consider:
I've had the same models, but my 12.2 pro is lte, so it has the snapdragon 800 processor.
10.1 and 12.2 Wi-Fi were 32bit processors. Those exynos models were behind qualcomm snapdragon at the time, and their scores showed it.
Note 5 was 64 bit exynos, and was faster than 810 snapdragon counter part
808 snapdragon was hexacore and as well, slower.
Hard to compare them, reason they went with qualcomm was qualcomm came out with lte embedded, so it didn't need another module draining battery. Last year's note 5 came worldwide Exynos, and if you compare last year's exynos to this year's snapdragon (hard reset Note 5 vs hard reset Note 7) you would be hard to believe the snapdragon 820 is faster. As a matter of fact it's not, except on paper. I've seen the exynos 88xx blow away the snapdragon 820.
I for one would love it if they replaced them. I'm a Note fanboy. I've had every note except the original, and they've all gotten better, with my exception being they note 7 in terms of software. This is the first time I feel let down
I've had the S7 Edge for the last 5 months, I loved the screen and especially the battery life. Samsung has released a product that just wasnt ready. I don't have a surface thermometer, but I'm being I could bake an egg on this. I don't feel it most of the time, because i have it in a case (platinum, which by the way covers both edges of the screen so you can't use any edge option, and cuts off some letters on web pages) but there's just something wrong this year.
Samsung has started to listen to... the media and websites instead of consumers. Websites complained it wasn't like their beloved Apple, all glass and Prone to break or shatter. They took the IR away. Sealed their battery, made their cameras 4:3 by default, took all their little options away that websites thought werw too much (but could all be turned off if not needed, such as eye scrolling, motion swiping, photo formula text editing (check the note 4 advertising about taking a photo of a paragraph and being able to move it around including the formula)), it just doesnt make sense.
Back to the subject, to me, and i am currently using both, the exynos 7420 found in the note 5 with the gpu mali T760 seems faster in real life than the snapdragon 820 with adreno 530. I suspect after seeing as much that the exynos 8890 in the international version. ( 930FD ) is faster.
Sorry I'm just so disappointed and blown away by how hot this is. And performance is bad all over for me
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See you know what your talking about these other guys don't, they don't know that the In-House processor works better because it's theirs just like apples works wonders on their phone because it's their own, better battery on the exynos and root is available aswell...smh..i want exynos
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Technically it was always QUALCOMM that had their processors rootable, Samsung had theirs under lock and key, lots of developers were asking Samsung to release notes on their exynos as they werent following the "rules" of openness. International versions always had the exynos, and most Wi-Fi models. It's just we got really lucky last year because of the 810 overheating. This year's model didn't have "liquid cooling" that the s7 and s7 edge had, and it's just... It's almost like I'm using a knock off phone.
I've never considered going back to a previous model of any phone. That said this was not Samsung's first "dud". Their S2 on Sprint was an exynos and it was a beast. On T mobile it was a TI OMAP I think 4430. Let's just say it showed me back then how awesome it (exynos) was.
Everyone who has used a note always gets a Better version of the S*. This year it seems we have gone back....1,2,3 year's
? And I'm not talking about the denotation.
People long forgotten...
http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-aware-of-exynos-documentation-issue/
To this day developers are still asking...
My take they are releasing the QC versions in the US because they don't want to give that documentation needed. Everyone keeps saying some underhanded anti-competitive deal, but if that's the case then how does Apple do it? Why they do it with the Note 5, and why wasn't there hoopla when that happened? The promise was made in the US, and magically we stopped getting Exynos the following year. When they released a Exynos version everyone asked for documentation they switched us back to QC. We will always see QC as long as we remember they promised documentation. They only give us the ones for Panda boards last I remember and 32 bit only.
Many people assume that this choice only depends on if you want root, however, there are other things to consider:
-network compatibility
-warranty
-performance difference
-power efficiency
-ram management
-promotions
-obvious root and bootloader
With all of that in mind, which variant are you going for, and why?
How do you suppose Exynos/Snapdragon choice is connected to root? You can have it on both.
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sireniankyle said:
Many people assume that this choice only depends on if you want root, however, there are other things to consider:
-network compatibility
-warranty
-performance difference
-power efficiency
-ram management
-promotions
-obvious root and bootloader
With all of that in mind, which variant are you going for, and why?
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Exynos hands down.
I refuse to drop $1300 on a device and not be able to do what u want with it.
Exynos is better on battery and just a smoother experience overall and yes ive has snap and exynos versions of the note 7 and s8 plus to compare.
Network compatibility isnt an issue here in Canada (if your on CDMA your screwed for the exynos version)
Could care less about warranty and lets face it...if your on xda and worried about warranty you may be in the wrong place. Development and warranty do not go well together.
You may lose some features on an international device such as wifi calling etc but if you dont care about that and want root, twrp,roms etc your out of your mind to buy a snapdragon.
Its funny how ive seen on the s7,note 7 and s8 when ppl buy the snap version then whine and moan the BL is locked and takes forever to even get root....lol whos fault is that? Buy the appropriate device based on your needs. People arent too bright it would seem?
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白い熊 said:
How do you suppose Exynos/Snapdragon choice is connected to root? You can have it on both.
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Sort of.
The root on the snaps is based on engineering firmware and has disadvantages as compared to SU or magisk.
You just cant compare the two... not to mention no twrp...no kernels and there will be very few roms.
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I agree. The only reason I went with the snapdragon S8+ was because I got $300 off for trading in a Note 1.
白い熊 said:
How do you suppose Exynos/Snapdragon choice is connected to root? You can have it on both.
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Exynos gets root right away. Snapdragon takes months, and is not as good. You have to flash a weird universal stock rom that won't even let you charge past 80% (at least on s8+).
Exynos ftw!
force70 said:
Exynos hands down.
I refuse to drop $1300 on a device and not be able to do what u want with it.
Exynos is better on battery and just a smoother experience overall and yes ive has snap and exynos versions of the note 7 and s8 plus to compare.
Network compatibility isnt an issue here in Canada (if your on CDMA your screwed for the exynos version)
Could care less about warranty and lets face it...if your on xda and worried about warranty you may be in the wrong place. Development and warranty do not go well together.
You may lose some features on an international device such as wifi calling etc but if you dont care about that and want root, twrp,roms etc your out of your mind to buy a snapdragon.
Its funny how ive seen on the s7,note 7 and s8 when ppl buy the snap version then whine and moan the BL is locked and takes forever to even get root....lol whos fault is that? But the appropriate device based on your needs. People arent too bright it would seem?
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Sort of.
The root on the snaps is based on engineering firmware and has disadvantages as compared to SU or magisk.
You just cant compare the two... not to mention no twrp...no kernels and there will be very few roms.
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So it is possible to get the deep blue from wherever and have it work on Verizon network here in the US?
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So it is possible to get the deep blue from wherever and have it work on Verizon network here in the US?
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Nope .as i mentioned in my post you quoted....if your on CDMA no go on exynos unfortunately.
force70 said:
Nope .as i mentioned in my post you quoted....if your on CDMA no go on exynos unfortunately.
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Dang I guess I read that wrong lol... Seeing what I wanted to see I guess
Preordered the note 8 unlocked snapdragon because I'm on Verizon. Got the unlocked version just in case root is not possible and the resale value is better for unlocked phones. Really hope root is possible though!! So snapdragon s8 root was achieved? That's promising!!
My only issue is Wifi Calling/SMS is a really nice feature and AT&T is evil and makes you buy their version to use it due to the IMEI whitelist.
Could someone explain to me why people prefer the exynos? isn't the SD835 more widely used, making it easier to build custom firmwares to?
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Could someone explain to me why people prefer the exynos? isn't the SD835 more widely used, making it easier to build custom firmwares to?
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That's what I thought I'm trusting my gut and got the snapdragon. I'm on Verizon so I have no choice but got the unlocked version so verizon can't do anything funny to my Note 8
I've never looked into buying an Exynos version before but I won't buy a locked down phone.
I'm on Samsung's site right now. Can anyone tell me how I know I'm getting the Exynos version as it doesn't say on there.
HW Lottery usually works in favor of the Exynos:
Bootloader easier to unlock (SD835 will have numbers but requires a lot more effort wrt unlocking)
UFS Version (wrt GS8) 2.0 v 2.1
Radio SD Has CDMA
Camera Sensors: Sony v Samsung (not clearly SOC dependent)
Theres a few reasons.. not all linked but generally Exy version is slightly better.
shadym1lkman said:
HW Lottery usually works in favor of the Exynos:
Bootloader easier to unlock (SD835 will have numbers but requires a lot more effort wrt unlocking)
UFS Version (wrt GS8) 2.0 v 2.1
Radio SD Has CDMA
Camera Sensors: Sony v Samsung (not clearly SOC dependent)
Theres a few reasons.. not all linked but generally Exy version is slightly better.
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Couple small corrections.
The exynos bootloaders are not and have never been locked.
The snapdragon bootloaders will never see an unlock (the s7s are still locked).
If you want development forget the snapdragon and go exynos
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Go with whatever you choose, there will be development for both. It may take a little more time for the snap, but the best dev's love the challenge.
If someone who isn't a dev is telling you there won't be development, i wouldn't really listen to that advice.
Anandtech did a comparission recently and the 835 is faster. I live in UK so have no choice, Exynos it is, but im fairly sure that the old idea that Exynos is "better" has been disproven.
I just can't wait for my $1000+ Note8 to come in so it can make me coffee and do my laundry !! Oh wait
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Go with whatever you choose, there will be development for both. It may take a little more time for the snap, but the best dev's love the challenge.
If someone who isn't a dev is telling you there won't be development, i wouldn't really listen to that advice.
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There will some but very little development for the snap. Without twrp possible for the device i dont know why you would think otherwise?
Exynos will have root and twrp within the first week of release and roms and kernels shortly thereafter...just as on the s7, note 7 and S8 .
Thats not my opinion thats fact based on past history and personal experience as I have owned all of those devcies.
Have you?
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RealEvil said:
Anandtech did a comparission recently and the 835 is faster. I live in UK so have no choice, Exynos it is, but im fairly sure that the old idea that Exynos is "better" has been disproven.
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What tools did they use to compare and what measurement was used to determine faster?
Again speaking as someone who has owned both snap and exynos versions of the note 7 and s8 the exynos is a smoother overall experience with less lag. Exynos certainly has better battery life.
If you haven't owned both and are relying soley on some tests done a website thats just what you read you cannot say based on personal experience.
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