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Recalled SD820replaced by the Exynos??

What if they sent us the exynos variants? Since the note 7 replacement would get resolved faster that way, opposed to exchanging every battery in the note which would technically make every device a refurbished, it would take longer that way and would devalue the device...faster way to satisfy customers is sending the varients that aren't exploding which are the exynos varients...
Whats your feedback and thoughts on this!?
Thanks in advance!
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RidinNerdy said:
What if they sent us the exynos variants? Since the note 7 replacement would get resolved faster that way, opposed to exchanging every battery in the note which would technically make every device a refurbished, it would take longer that way and would devalue the device...faster way to satisfy customers is sending the varients that aren't exploding which are the exynos varients...
Whats your feedback and thoughts on this!?
Thanks in advance!
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Probably not happening. I don't think any of the snapdragon models caught fire.
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danon.brown said:
Probably not happening. I don't think any of the snapdragon models caught fire.
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So why is all the U.S carriers recalling the Note 7's SD820 here...??
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RidinNerdy said:
So why is all the U.S carriers recalling the Note 7's SD820 here...??
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To cover all angles.
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Not a chance. The carriers need their bloat, and will not recode everything for a different chipset within 2 weeks.

danon.brown said:
To cover all angles.
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Makes sense
KillaHurtz said:
Not a chance. The carriers need their bloat, and will not recode everything for a different chipset within 2 weeks.
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Your right..
I guess it was just wishful thinking[emoji18] [emoji18] [emoji18]
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danon.brown said:
Probably not happening. I don't think any of the snapdragon models caught fire.
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This guy is in the US so I assume it was a Snapdragon model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQOiilJwJ0
@RidinNerdy The replacements will be the same as we have now.

Recall through Samsung and not carriers
What if we send our phones through Samsung instead then to the carriers? Some people in the US bought the phone unlocked and Samsung is offering their own exchange program not for those people but just in general.
Here is the link to Samsungs announcement of the exchange program: http://news.samsung.com/us/2016/09/02/samsung-establishes-u-s-product-exchange-program-galaxy-note7/

The exynos models were the ones that caught fire...not the snapdragon.

charlieb620 said:
The exynos models were the ones that caught fire...not the snapdragon.
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Yeah but we don't wanna think that, we want the exynos because they have root(ignorance is bliss[emoji18]) , plus it would make sense for them to give us an unlocked version because if i have tmobile version and i exchange it for theirs im sure they are not carrying the T-Mobile/Sprint/Verizon/at&t varients so ill get a debloated note 7 ***PROFIT*** THANK ME LATER!
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being in US doesnt mean he couldn't have Exynos, but AFAIK the problem is batteries made in Korea, not cpu etc. Probably majority of batteries made in Korea would go to Exynos equipped models for local markets and it seems most of Tmo phones are made in China for example, but the problem is most may not mean all and if they were short of chinese batt. in China, they could have shipped some from Korea and If I had to guess, that could be reason for global recall, they may not be 100% sure if some faulty batteries from Korea didn't end up in China made US models. I wonder if there is a program able to read batt info, if such info exist. It blows my mind, that all this could be avoided if only there was simple access inside, like on older models.

If they switched the processors, I would bail out getting the Note 7 altogether. I had a Note 10.1, 12.2 and note 5 all with exynos processors and all of them couldn't handle heavy activity after a certain period of time. Putting the snapdragon processor in the Note 7, S7 and S7edge was smart of Samsung.
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being in US doesnt mean he couldn't have Exynos, but AFAIK the problem is batteries made in Korea, not cpu etc. Probably majority of batteries made in Korea would go to Exynos equipped models for local markets and it seems most of Tmo phones are made in China for example, but the problem is most may not mean all and if they were short of chinese batt. in China, they could have shipped some from Korea and If I had to guess, that could be reason for global recall, they may not be 100% sure if some faulty batteries from Korea didn't end up in China made US models. I wonder if there is a program able to read batt info, if such info exist. It blows my mind, that all this could be avoided if only there was simple access inside, like on older models.
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I like how you think especially since I thought the same way. It seems they are protecting their battery source as they don't want to "out" them. I agree a simple app to detect what battery you have would make sense. They are gonna refurbish the returned phones somehow

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Yeah but we don't wanna think that, we want the exynos because they have root(ignorance is bliss[emoji18]) , plus it would make sense for them to give us an unlocked version because if i have tmobile version and i exchange it for theirs im sure they are not carrying the T-Mobile/Sprint/Verizon/at&t varients so ill get a debloated note 7 ***PROFIT*** THANK ME LATER!
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If you really want to do that, just return your TMo for a refund and then buy the Exynos version from Samsung or a retailer who carries it.
Personally, I prefer the Snapdragon one, that's why I bought from a carrier.

harveydent said:
If you really want to do that, just return your TMo for a refund and then buy the Exynos version from Samsung or a retailer who carries it.
Personally, I prefer the Snapdragon one, that's why I bought from a carrier.
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If i buy it from samsung i cant finance the phone, i have to pay $850 plus tax, if i buy from tmobile store and thrn go to the samsung store ill get:
exynos note 7 varient
No bloat
New battery
Still be under finance
***..profit!!!***
Way better this way, Harvey Dent u are in no condition answer these questions, last time i saw u, u were in the hospital in Dark knight
Thnx kBye![emoji8]
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I have to disagree.
I especially wnt the exynos processor.
Things to consider:
I've had the same models, but my 12.2 pro is lte, so it has the snapdragon 800 processor.
10.1 and 12.2 Wi-Fi were 32bit processors. Those exynos models were behind qualcomm snapdragon at the time, and their scores showed it.
Note 5 was 64 bit exynos, and was faster than 810 snapdragon counter part
808 snapdragon was hexacore and as well, slower.
Hard to compare them, reason they went with qualcomm was qualcomm came out with lte embedded, so it didn't need another module draining battery. Last year's note 5 came worldwide Exynos, and if you compare last year's exynos to this year's snapdragon (hard reset Note 5 vs hard reset Note 7) you would be hard to believe the snapdragon 820 is faster. As a matter of fact it's not, except on paper. I've seen the exynos 88xx blow away the snapdragon 820.
I for one would love it if they replaced them. I'm a Note fanboy. I've had every note except the original, and they've all gotten better, with my exception being they note 7 in terms of software. This is the first time I feel let down
I've had the S7 Edge for the last 5 months, I loved the screen and especially the battery life. Samsung has released a product that just wasnt ready. I don't have a surface thermometer, but I'm being I could bake an egg on this. I don't feel it most of the time, because i have it in a case (platinum, which by the way covers both edges of the screen so you can't use any edge option, and cuts off some letters on web pages) but there's just something wrong this year.
Samsung has started to listen to... the media and websites instead of consumers. Websites complained it wasn't like their beloved Apple, all glass and Prone to break or shatter. They took the IR away. Sealed their battery, made their cameras 4:3 by default, took all their little options away that websites thought werw too much (but could all be turned off if not needed, such as eye scrolling, motion swiping, photo formula text editing (check the note 4 advertising about taking a photo of a paragraph and being able to move it around including the formula)), it just doesnt make sense.
Back to the subject, to me, and i am currently using both, the exynos 7420 found in the note 5 with the gpu mali T760 seems faster in real life than the snapdragon 820 with adreno 530. I suspect after seeing as much that the exynos 8890 in the international version. ( 930FD ) is faster.
Sorry I'm just so disappointed and blown away by how hot this is. And performance is bad all over for me

pete4k said:
being in US doesnt mean he couldn't have Exynos, but AFAIK the problem is batteries made in Korea, not cpu etc. Probably majority of batteries made in Korea would go to Exynos equipped models for local markets and it seems most of Tmo phones are made in China for example, but the problem is most may not mean all and if they were short of chinese batt. in China, they could have shipped some from Korea and If I had to guess, that could be reason for global recall, they may not be 100% sure if some faulty batteries from Korea didn't end up in China made US models. I wonder if there is a program able to read batt info, if such info exist. It blows my mind, that all this could be avoided if only there was simple access inside, like on older models.
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playya said:
I like how you think especially since I thought the same way. It seems they are protecting their battery source as they don't want to "out" them. I agree a simple app to detect what battery you have would make sense. They are gonna refurbish the returned phones somehow
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It looks like THEY were the battery source and it was put into 70% of the phones released.
"Samsung SDI supplied 70 percent of the batteries fitted into the 2.5 million estimated Galaxy Note 7 units that have so far landed in consumer hands and stores. The other 30 percent of batteries have been provided by Chinese battery maker ATL."
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-7-drops-samsung-sdi-batteries-714788/

sledgie said:
I have to disagree.
I especially wnt the exynos processor.
Things to consider:
I've had the same models, but my 12.2 pro is lte, so it has the snapdragon 800 processor.
10.1 and 12.2 Wi-Fi were 32bit processors. Those exynos models were behind qualcomm snapdragon at the time, and their scores showed it.
Note 5 was 64 bit exynos, and was faster than 810 snapdragon counter part
808 snapdragon was hexacore and as well, slower.
Hard to compare them, reason they went with qualcomm was qualcomm came out with lte embedded, so it didn't need another module draining battery. Last year's note 5 came worldwide Exynos, and if you compare last year's exynos to this year's snapdragon (hard reset Note 5 vs hard reset Note 7) you would be hard to believe the snapdragon 820 is faster. As a matter of fact it's not, except on paper. I've seen the exynos 88xx blow away the snapdragon 820.
I for one would love it if they replaced them. I'm a Note fanboy. I've had every note except the original, and they've all gotten better, with my exception being they note 7 in terms of software. This is the first time I feel let down
I've had the S7 Edge for the last 5 months, I loved the screen and especially the battery life. Samsung has released a product that just wasnt ready. I don't have a surface thermometer, but I'm being I could bake an egg on this. I don't feel it most of the time, because i have it in a case (platinum, which by the way covers both edges of the screen so you can't use any edge option, and cuts off some letters on web pages) but there's just something wrong this year.
Samsung has started to listen to... the media and websites instead of consumers. Websites complained it wasn't like their beloved Apple, all glass and Prone to break or shatter. They took the IR away. Sealed their battery, made their cameras 4:3 by default, took all their little options away that websites thought werw too much (but could all be turned off if not needed, such as eye scrolling, motion swiping, photo formula text editing (check the note 4 advertising about taking a photo of a paragraph and being able to move it around including the formula)), it just doesnt make sense.
Back to the subject, to me, and i am currently using both, the exynos 7420 found in the note 5 with the gpu mali T760 seems faster in real life than the snapdragon 820 with adreno 530. I suspect after seeing as much that the exynos 8890 in the international version. ( 930FD ) is faster.
Sorry I'm just so disappointed and blown away by how hot this is. And performance is bad all over for me
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See you know what your talking about these other guys don't, they don't know that the In-House processor works better because it's theirs just like apples works wonders on their phone because it's their own, better battery on the exynos and root is available aswell...smh..i want exynos
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Technically it was always QUALCOMM that had their processors rootable, Samsung had theirs under lock and key, lots of developers were asking Samsung to release notes on their exynos as they werent following the "rules" of openness. International versions always had the exynos, and most Wi-Fi models. It's just we got really lucky last year because of the 810 overheating. This year's model didn't have "liquid cooling" that the s7 and s7 edge had, and it's just... It's almost like I'm using a knock off phone.
I've never considered going back to a previous model of any phone. That said this was not Samsung's first "dud". Their S2 on Sprint was an exynos and it was a beast. On T mobile it was a TI OMAP I think 4430. Let's just say it showed me back then how awesome it (exynos) was.
Everyone who has used a note always gets a Better version of the S*. This year it seems we have gone back....1,2,3 year's
? And I'm not talking about the denotation.

People long forgotten...
http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-aware-of-exynos-documentation-issue/
To this day developers are still asking...
My take they are releasing the QC versions in the US because they don't want to give that documentation needed. Everyone keeps saying some underhanded anti-competitive deal, but if that's the case then how does Apple do it? Why they do it with the Note 5, and why wasn't there hoopla when that happened? The promise was made in the US, and magically we stopped getting Exynos the following year. When they released a Exynos version everyone asked for documentation they switched us back to QC. We will always see QC as long as we remember they promised documentation. They only give us the ones for Panda boards last I remember and 32 bit only.

Root on snapdragon

Am I understanding correct that as of yet, the snapdragon version of the note 8 cannot be rooted?
Also, if I am planning on rooting, should I NOT take the current ota update?

ParrSt said:
Am I understanding correct that as of yet, the snapdragon version of the note 8 cannot be rooted?
Also, if I am planning on rooting, should I NOT take the current ota update?
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There may eventually be an engineer-kernel related root maybe 6 months down the road, but it will be super limited and slow.
Also, OTA won't affect root, since an engineer kernel can be flashed over anything (since its for developers to test hardware).
I have the Snapdragon variant as well here in Canada, and I'm selling the phone for full value and will be ordering the F model on Swiftronics when its available (as of now only the FD is up). I'm currently selling it on Kijiji, but if I don't sell it in 5 days, I'm going to drive to Mississuaga to refund it at the Samsung store, and then I'll pop by the Swiftronic retail store which is also conveniently in Mississuaga as well.
Lastly, as you are most likely aware, rooting any Samsung phone will void full warranty 99% of the time, and is NOT covered by any imported variant (anything outside your country regardless of the method of purchase). This includes Swiftronics retail outlet (just got off the phone with them).
So if you really want to keep your warranty, I would suggest waiting for the Snapdragon root, which will most likely keep the warranty and risk having to wait up to a year and have super limited abilities, or sell the phone, get the F variant and lose warranty completely and obtain 100% root access with full kernel/ROM support. I'm personally choosing this option, as I thought I could live without root, but the small things add up and make it impossible for me to live without lol.

Not so worried about warranty but will this phone never get a full and proper root like every other android phone I've owned?

ParrSt said:
Not so worried about warranty but will this phone never get a full and proper root like every other android phone I've owned?
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You may want to track the history of rooting previous Samsung phones. The short answer is that an unlocked bootloader has been very difficult to achieve on Snapdragon SOCs. Without that, root is a hit or miss.
What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?

douger1957 said:
You may want to track the history of rooting previous Samsung phones. The short answer is that an unlocked bootloader has been very difficult to achieve on Snapdragon SOCs. Without that, root is a hit or miss.
What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?
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F2FS makes the phone snappy AF
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ParrSt said:
Not so worried about warranty but will this phone never get a full and proper root like every other android phone I've owned?
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Take a look at this thread for S8+, root took almost 5 1/2 months and it still has a locked bootloader.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...root-g955u-g955u1-snapdragon-sampwnd-t3658911

I didn't get a chance to mess root on the s8 but using the ENG kernel on the s7 edge to get root was horrible. wasn't really worth the trade off IMO. it slowed down the phone, lagged like crazy. even after messing with kernel settings to make it stable it still was slower then stock. I know how important root is to some people but anymore stock with some ADB mods is OK with me. I wish I had root to debloat my phone some on the stock TMO firmware(unlocked firmware loses to many features) but it is what it is for now.

douger1957 said:
You may want to track the history of rooting previous Samsung phones. The short answer is that an unlocked bootloader has been very difficult to achieve on Snapdragon SOCs. Without that, root is a hit or miss.
What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?
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I always liked finding a custom Rom that has cool icons and battery mods and choosing setting options that my room doesn't have. I just like full customization.

My friends worship me better when i have root, since we all have the same phone, and they see what i can do after root, i charge $50 for root and $75 to install rom, $150 w/root/rom/complete debloatation!
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Every phone that I have owned that had a locked bootloader has gotten root. Every one of them. Now you might not be able to flash kernels. But I never do that anyway. So don't worry about it the Snapdragon will get root. Remember the phone just came out on the 15th. I guarantee someone is working on root as we speak.

ParrSt said:
I always liked finding a custom Rom that has cool icons and battery mods and choosing setting options that my room doesn't have. I just like full customization.
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I did too in the past but not on the S8+ or the Note 8. There is now Substratum for Samsung without root and SytemUI Tuner from the Play Store that you only need several adb commands to give it permissions where you can really make it yours. Also a thread on the S8+ site for layers and most of those work on the Note 8 too.

ggrant3876 said:
I did too in the past but not on the S8+ or the Note 8. There is now Substratum for Samsung without root and SytemUI Tuner from the Play Store that you only need several adb commands to give it permissions where you can really make it yours. Also a thread on the S8+ site for layers and most of those work on the Note 8 too.
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Watch “Reason for root” on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/234526431
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ggrant3876 said:
I did too in the past but not on the S8+ or the Note 8. There is now Substratum for Samsung without root and SytemUI Tuner from the Play Store that you only need several adb commands to give it permissions where you can really make it yours. Also a thread on the S8+ site for layers and most of those work on the Note 8 too.
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Do you use Swift for Samsung on the note 8? If so, what layers do you use? The ones for the S8/S8+?

jason504 said:
Every phone that I have owned that had a locked bootloader has gotten root. Every one of them. Now you might not be able to flash kernels. But I never do that anyway. So don't worry about it the Snapdragon will get root. Remember the phone just came out on the 15th. I guarantee someone is working on root as we speak.
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It will be hacked root like the s8, hopefully not limited to 80% battery charge
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6

force70 said:
It will be hacked root like the s8, hopefully not limited to 80% battery charge
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
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What do you mean 80 battery charge?

jason504 said:
What do you mean 80 battery charge?
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If you root you can only charge to 80%.
Unless it was already fixed, i have an exynos so dont read alot on the snapdragon so dont know.
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6

force70 said:
If you root you can only charge to 80%.
Unless it was already fixed, i have an exynos so dont read alot on the snapdragon so dont know.
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Well that sucks I will not root if that's the case.

GermanGuy said:
Do you use Swift for Samsung on the note 8? If so, what layers do you use? The ones for the S8/S8+?
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Right now I'm using Swift Dark for the S8, and I'm using the nav bar from here, Parapaer. Using the carrier hider from here. Got rid of the battery charging icon from here, with several adb commands for permissions. Haven't had a single issue but if you do just boot into safe mode and uninstall the offending layer.

douger1957 said:
What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?
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Honestly I was looking at this question and it made me think because I've also rooted every single phone I've had for the past seven years this is the first Samsung device I bought I usually stuck to Motorola and the Nexus lineup and all of those phones I rooted them to do everything the Galaxy Note 8 does by default already customisation and performance
Up until yesterday the only real reason I had to root my Note 8 was to disable Bixby but Samsung did the right thing and gave me that already
Now I honestly don't even care about rooting

force70 said:
If you root you can only charge to 80%.
Unless it was already fixed, i have an exynos so dont read alot on the snapdragon so dont know.
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It's been fixed, hill billy method.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73619880&postcount=2399

should i buy?

hey i am currently on the market for a new phone, i currently have the google pixel xl and i love it, ive heard bad things about the 2xl though with all the problems it has and i dont like the fact that the s9+ is unrootable in america and the international version doesnt work on my carrier sprint because they only support cdma bands and the international version only supports the GSM bands and ive heard the OP6 is terrible from a lot of people so that really just leaves the note 8 but it doesnt seem like theres much as far as development goes for it

Veid71 said:
hey i am currently on the market for a new phone, i currently have the google pixel xl and i love it, ive heard bad things about the 2xl though with all the problems it has and i dont like the fact that the s9+ is unrootable in america and the international version doesnt work on my carrier sprint because they only support cdma bands and the international version only supports the GSM bands and ive heard the OP6 is terrible from a lot of people so that really just leaves the note 8 but it doesnt seem like theres much as far as development goes for it
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U.S. snapdragons are also bootloader locked, like the S9s. The international versions are not, and have lots of development in the roms section. Not sure they would work with Sprint either though.

sefrcoko said:
U.S. snapdragons are also bootloader locked, like the S9s. The international versions are not, and have lots of development in the roms section. Not sure they would work with Sprint either though.
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it makes me wonder though, if i can buy an unlocked phone then why are the bands different? shouldnt an unlocked phone be able to go to any carrier with both gsm and cdma?

Veid71 said:
it makes me wonder though, if i can buy an unlocked phone then why are the bands different? shouldnt an unlocked phone be able to go to any carrier with both gsm and cdma?
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I know what you mean, but I guess there are just different phones for different markets. If they are sim unlocked then all it means is that it is not locked to a particular carrier. It doesn't automatically guarantee that it will work with every carrier around the globe, or work in the exact same way. I believe the U.S. Snapdragons have CDMA (unlike Exynos), but I've never used Sprint so can't say for certain how that works. I can't see the Note 8 being different from the S9 in that regard.

sefrcoko said:
I know what you mean, but I guess there are just different phones for different markets. If they are sim unlocked then all it means is that it is not locked to a particular carrier. It doesn't automatically guarantee that it will work with every carrier around the globe, or work in the exact same way. I believe the U.S. Snapdragons have CDMA (unlike Exynos), but I've never used Sprint so can't say for certain how that works.
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yeah i just looked up their processors and it looks like snapdragon supports gsm and cdma but exynos doesnt support cdma atleast for the s9+ so im still stuck lol it looks like the note 8 you can root on the sprint version but i didnt see too much development for it is snapdragon just unrootable or do you think theyll find a way to root it? i really like the features and things of the s9+ but theres just such an untapped reservoir of potential with not rooting it

Veid71 said:
yeah i just looked up their processors and it looks like snapdragon supports gsm and cdma but exynos doesnt support cdma atleast for the s9+ so im still stuck lol it looks like the note 8 you can root on the sprint version but i didnt see too much development for it is snapdragon just unrootable or do you think theyll find a way to root it? i really like the features and things of the s9+ but theres just such an untapped reservoir of potential with not rooting it
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I have an Exynos so I may be mistaken here, but to my knowledge the U.S. snapdragons were able to be rooted on Nougat (even with their locked bootloaders), but it's not possible at the moment on Oreo. That could change, but I don't know how likely (or unlikely) that is. Check out the SamFail thread for more info on root for Snapdragon.

sefrcoko said:
I have an Exynos so I may be mistaken here, but to my knowledge the U.S. snapdragons were able to be rooted on Nougat (even with their locked bootloaders), but it's not possible at the moment on Oreo. That could change, but I don't know how likely (or unlikely) that is. Check out the SamFail thread for more info on root for Snapdragon.
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the s9+ can be rooted? ill check it out

I am starting to consider the Note 8 as well. I had a Note 3, loved it, had an S7 Edge for a couple years but recently sold that and picked up a Pixel 2 XL. In my case the 2 XL is a great phone, it's fast, stock android is great, but it continually drops the Bluetooth connection to my Gear S3 frontier which is maddening. The S7 Edge was rock solid and never once dropped the connection to the watch, the 2 XL has dropped the connection at least half a dozen times today alone.
$200 off currently on an unlocked Note 8 has me seriously considering returning the 2 XL as I am still within the 30 day return period.

Veid71 said:
the s9+ can be rooted? ill check it out
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I don't know about the s9, I was speaking about the note 8.

The most important reason to buy a note series device should be the s pen, in your case, I believe that the spen is not the main reason, so, I would sugest to you to get another device

naiku said:
I am starting to consider the Note 8 as well. I had a Note 3, loved it, had an S7 Edge for a couple years but recently sold that and picked up a Pixel 2 XL. In my case the 2 XL is a great phone, it's fast, stock android is great, but it continually drops the Bluetooth connection to my Gear S3 frontier which is maddening. The S7 Edge was rock solid and never once dropped the connection to the watch, the 2 XL has dropped the connection at least half a dozen times today alone.
$200 off currently on an unlocked Note 8 has me seriously considering returning the 2 XL as I am still within the 30 day return period.
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I've actually just today considering trading my Unlocked Note 8 for the Google Pixel XL 2 but it didn't go through as planned. I'm really interested in the great camera on the XL 2 and I'd like to try the stock Android experience. Do you only have Bluetooth issues on the gear s3? I have the Fitbit Ionic and use Bluetooth in my truck so if there's a serious Bluetooth issue I'm not so sure anymore. I had the same Bluetooth issues on the LG V20 which is why I got the Note 8.

xbmoyx said:
I've actually just today considering trading my Unlocked Note 8 for the Google Pixel XL 2 but it didn't go through as planned. I'm really interested in the great camera on the XL 2 and I'd like to try the stock Android experience. Do you only have Bluetooth issues on the gear s3? I have the Fitbit Ionic and use Bluetooth in my truck so if there's a serious Bluetooth issue I'm not so sure anymore. I had the same Bluetooth issues on the LG V20 which is why I got the Note 8.
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Honestly, as much as I love the Pixel 2 XL, the camera is great and stock Android is exactly what I had hoped (no junk apps, nothing I can't remove if I don't want it etc.) the Bluetooth issues are seriously frustrating. What is doubly annoying is that on Monday for example, it disconnected from my Gear S3 at least half a dozen times, but yesterday did not disconnect a single time. If you take a look though, BT connectivity issues definitely plague the 2XL, take a look at this thread for example, started in October last year: https://productforums.google.com/fo...!msg/phone-by-google/-lpPfDGvkNw/hzLdYStbAgAJ As you can see, it is still ongoing and covers all sorts of devices.
I am kind of stuck really, part of me wants to return the phone because I use the Gear S3 far more than I ever expected, taking calls on it is handy if I am in the garage for example and don't have my phone on me, my work calendar syncs to it which is great for quickly checking in the morning on my meetings etc. But, on the flip side the phone is so fast and smooth, that I really enjoy using it.
Overall how do you like the Note 8? I loved my Note 3, one of my favorite phones to date.

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Honestly, as much as I love the Pixel 2 XL, the camera is great and stock Android is exactly what I had hoped (no junk apps, nothing I can't remove if I don't want it etc.) the Bluetooth issues are seriously frustrating. What is doubly annoying is that on Monday for example, it disconnected from my Gear S3 at least half a dozen times, but yesterday did not disconnect a single time. If you take a look though, BT connectivity issues definitely plague the 2XL, take a look at this thread for example, started in October last year: https://productforums.google.com/fo...!msg/phone-by-google/-lpPfDGvkNw/hzLdYStbAgAJ As you can see, it is still ongoing and covers all sorts of devices.
I am kind of stuck really, part of me wants to return the phone because I use the Gear S3 far more than I ever expected, taking calls on it is handy if I am in the garage for example and don't have my phone on me, my work calendar syncs to it which is great for quickly checking in the morning on my meetings etc. But, on the flip side the phone is so fast and smooth, that I really enjoy using it.
Overall how do you like the Note 8? I loved my Note 3, one of my favorite phones to date.
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Thank you for your honesty. I did further research and I found many saying my $300 Fitbit Ionic watch isn't compatible with the Pixel 2 XL, so I'm glad I didn't trade my device yet. The only device I wouldn't mind trading for is the S9+ because I know there won't be any issues with compatibility.

Buy an iphone

xbmoyx said:
Thank you for your honesty. I did further research and I found many saying my $300 Fitbit Ionic watch isn't compatible with the Pixel 2 XL, so I'm glad I didn't trade my device yet. The only device I wouldn't mind trading for is the S9+ because I know there won't be any issues with compatibility.
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No problem, I wish I had known about the Bluetooth issue before getting my 2XL. I had heard there were some issues but was not expecting it to be quite so extensive. Annoyingly, I may be stuck with the phone as I am a few days outside the 15-day return window, which will leave me just hoping for a fix.
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Buy an iphone
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:laugh::laugh::laugh:

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Buy an iphone
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You sellin?

Considering T-Mobile upgrade - any hope for root?

I had a Samsung S4, rooted it, loved it. I upgrade to the S7e without checking, and no root. I upgraded to LG G7, thinking they couldn't possibly be this bad - no root.
So, any hope of the T-Mobile version having root? It's not a dealbreaker (the G7 has terrible cameras anyway) but knowing what the options are is nice.
I'm hoping that I can still get the $390 off when trading in my G7 despite getting two with the B1G1 a year ago... lol
Thanks!

Based upon past history, the T-Mobile SD855 version (or any American variant) is unlikely to get root, due to locked bootloader. I had a TMo S7 which got root via a leaked engineering kernel, but it was not satisfactory to me, nor many people. I got an international Exynos S7 which has full root, ROMs, etc. and is WAY better. The Exynos S10 is expected to get the full root treatment, but it hasn't yet. I'm holding off on buying a G970F S10e until root is established. Typically takes roughly a month, if I remember correctly, although this model appears it will be a bit trickier.

If you're counting on being able to root this phone, the best advice is probably get another phone. My Note4 took almost two years to see root and by the time it did, most developers had moved on. The Note7 had an engineering kernel "leaked" but that phone didn't last long. The Note8 was rooted for a short time but without an unlocked bootloader and an available recovery, flashing ROMs wasn't possible.
The enthusiast community is so small these days it doesn't pay to unlock the bootloaders. Samsung and others make far more money selling to corporations and government entities which value security.

Zero to None for the North American Snapdragon...

Unless you get the China version. That I believe has unlockable Snapdragon.

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Unless you get the China version. That I believe has unlockable Snapdragon.
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Where did you read that?

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Where did you read that?
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Non-North American Snapdragon (China, Central/South America) models are traditionally bootloader unlockable.

The unrooted T-Mobile S10 is okay at best. It's only real saving feature is the sound quality
Finance the Razer Phone 2. It's only $500

blackknightavalon said:
The unrooted T-Mobile S10 is okay at best. It's only real saving feature is the sound quality
Finance the Razer Phone 2. It's only $500
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Seems like a nice phone, and a great value, though I am not a huge fan of no headphone jack. Also it's a side grade for me from my G7 (both are S845s). But looking at the forum, rooting sure looks easy. I'll keep it in mind, thanks.

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Seems like a nice phone, and a great value, though I am not a huge fan of no headphone jack. Also it's a side grade for me from my G7 (both are S845s). But looking at the forum, rooting sure looks easy. I'll keep it in mind, thanks.
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Processing speed difference is infinitesimal in my opinion, and rooting will just get easier very soon. Razer just released full audio source and the devs are >< that close to cracking the encryption issue for fully working TWRP
Samsung doesn't care about the development community and their last good phone in my opinion was the S5

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Exactly what the dude below you said and the should work well with Verizon and Sprint according to Chinese Note 9 (same bands as Chinese s10) users claiming they got everything working at least on Verizon.

Exynos and Verizon

Oh darn, I cracked my S8 screen, time for a new phone! I didn't have the Exynos S8, so I was never able to root this phone, and I miss it desperately. I'm probably going to buy an S10 or maybe S20, and it looks like there's still no Snapdragon root. My question is - is there any drawback to getting an Exynos version, and does it place nice with Verizon? Are all international versions Exynos? What search terms do I have to use to verify that I'm getting an Exynos version? Basically - is there any reason not to get an Exynos S10? Is there an Exynos version of all of the S10 phones (S10, S10+, S10 Ultra)?

I have been Rooting Samsung Galaxy's since the S6.
My friend owns several independent phone stores.
We have tried virtually every provider out there.
Prior to owning Samsung Galaxys I WAS an iphone owner. (My very last iphone was a 5.)
I always Jailbroke the iphones and the reason I stopped purchasing was the price...
So, what I have found out about buying and rooting Samsungs is this:
I don't believe you will get the performance of a U.S . phone when you purchase a EXYNOS.
My belief is due to the fact that you won't have the same bands available to you vs the American version. If you can live with less connectivity then go ahead and make your purchase.
Additionally, the whole process of Rooting a Samsung Exynos phone is complicated. You are not likely to Hard Brick the phone, but be prepared to spend time on XDA solving your problems.
Because of my background in Computer Systems Analysis, and due to the fact that I am patient and willing to ask the questions, plus read through an entire blog listing for the specific download, I have been successful...but to what end? When I think about the time spent, aggravation, etc., there is a diminishing loss ... currently running S10e EXYNOS Rooted with TWRP
Look for the SM-G970F SM-G973F SM-G975F versions which are EXYNOS

Thanks, although that's disappointing. I don't mind the technical stuff, I've rooted every phone prior to my s8, and I don't mind a challenge, I've softbricked plenty of phones, but haven't hard bricked one yet. I've done IT stuff my whole life, so if it's not actively on fire, it's still fixable, and I learn stuff in the process.
But from your reply and doing a lot of reading, it does seem like Exynos would be a significant performance hit. I'm really stubborn about things being open source and hardware being hackable, and my biggest reason for rooting is simply because I should be able to on principle, and I have daddy issues and don't like being told what to do, lol. I'll have to balance that with the performance/connectivity hit.
I'm assuming it's the same deal with the note line? Exynos is the only thing rootable and is significantly slower? Phooey. I've been using Samsung galaxies for the last 8 years or so, maybe I should look into the Pixel? I think that's the only other comparable Verizon phone?

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Thanks, although that's disappointing. I don't mind the technical stuff, I've rooted every phone prior to my s8, and I don't mind a challenge, I've softbricked plenty of phones, but haven't hard bricked one yet. I've done IT stuff my whole life, so if it's not actively on fire, it's still fixable, and I learn stuff in the process.
But from your reply and doing a lot of reading, it does seem like Exynos would be a significant performance hit. I'm really stubborn about things being open source and hardware being hackable, and my biggest reason for rooting is simply because I should be able to on principle, and I have daddy issues and don't like being told what to do, lol. I'll have to balance that with the performance/connectivity hit.
I'm assuming it's the same deal with the note line? Exynos is the only thing rootable and is significantly slower? Phooey. I've been using Samsung galaxies for the last 8 years or so, maybe I should look into the Pixel? I think that's the only other comparable Verizon phone?
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Actually its not the same. I just switched to Note 10+ Exynos and the performance is extraordinary! I havent rooted it yet, but out of the box everything is fast, including uploads of pics. I went to the Plus because of the higher resolution & 12GB memory + MicroSD Capability.