ICS on G Note - any objective reviews? - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

HI
Can anyone point me to an objective review of Samsung Stock ICS on the G Note?
There seem to be lots of conflicting reports. I would like to know
- Is the battery life really worse or is it just that a battery calibration procedure needs to be done?
- Does the 'Possible bricked device if reset done' problem applies to all roms or NOT?
- How much better are the S-Pen apps?
- What are the functional improvements - E.g. Better camera tap to focus?, Smoother / faster graphics?
- What exactly is worse compared to GB (Gingerbread) ?
Thanks

differences between GB and ICS are many and make the best use of daily ICS .. the battery is sufficient to calibrate here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765609 .. .. , spenn the app does not work with all cooked rom.. The rotation has improved in this latest update, devices, improved screen rotation, multitasking seems faster and there have been improvements to the application of the screen, multitasking seems faster and there have been improvements to the application of the camera. Most of the changes are not immediately visible and are very specific, but make ICS camera. Most of the changes are not immediately visible and are very specific, but make ICS an operating system more complete, smooth and satisfying. A video of pocketnow shows us all the news.

Battery better?
noob here, but dun quite see that installing ice cream sandwich helps with battery life...
this is wat happened to my battery life...any any input anyone?
the long gap of inactivity in Screen is when i was sleeping, but even after closing all apps, off wifi, off data, off bluetooth, my battery went from 70% to 40% over 1 night, in less than 8 hours...wats going on?

coming from bricking
I had a bad experience installing RR5...Bricked the phone ..unbricked using ketang method.. using different pit on odin 1.85 flashing stock rom...
Now I'm on RR6 ..but lost about 4GB of internal memory... note is smooth and fast... and I'm about to flash speedmode 3.3...
Coming from Darkyrom gingerbrad... few things are missing... the most important one is the launcher on landscape mode...
Installed emmc check which stated my chip to be insane but the sectors i use to be OK.
We live and learn
(by the way I did follow all the instruction for a full wipe)...

MetaDude said:
- Is the battery life really worse or is it just that a battery calibration procedure needs to be done?
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For me, battery life is no different. Some people have reported worse battery, but I'm not sure if this is down to the ICS install or something else.
MetaDude said:
- Does the 'Possible bricked device if reset done' problem applies to all roms or NOT?
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AFAIK, all Samsung ICS roms have the potential to cause the eMMC bug and brick your device when a factory reset/full wipe is done.
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- How much better are the S-Pen apps?
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The S-Pen apps are a little better, nothing huge but if you're a heavy S-Pen user you'll probably be happy with the improvements.
MetaDude said:
- What are the functional improvements - E.g. Better camera tap to focus?, Smoother / faster graphics?
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Functionally, ICS on the Note is incredibly similar to GB. The TouchWiz UI and framework are identical, which is a shame as from a usability perspective it doesn't feel like an update. The only functional improvements imo are a better range of options in the Settings app and the ability to install ICS only apps (like Chrome beta).
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- What exactly is worse compared to GB (Gingerbread) ?
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I think ICS isn't as snappy as GB, especially with widget scrolling in social hub and agenda.

Thanks Nos0x - I do use the S-Pen apps but I would like significant improvements there.
I think I'll stick with GB for now.

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2.1 vs 2.2 issues

Is this really the decision we have to make?
V2.1
Pro
Better battery life
More stable
Con
Camera picture shifted by a pixel resulting in a line down the side.
Slower
Stuck with old 2.1 applications
V2.2
Pro
Faster
Newest applications such as GMail are much more usable, there are also new applications for 2.2+ only
Camera pictures turn out correctly
Con
Camera application crashes unexpectedly
General instability of the phone and its applications
Terrible battery life (at least 50% less on a good day)
ps. if any of these can be resolved please let me know. If you have anything to add to the list, also let me know. I've been switching back and forth between the two trying to figure out which I like more, but I find either way I'm terribly annoyed by something.
I disagree with the cons of v2.2.1, the camera works perfect, no instability and the battery lasts 1 1 / 2 to 2 days
max_avatar said:
I disagree with the cons of v2.2.1, the camera works perfect, no instability and the battery lasts 1 1 / 2 to 2 days
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+1, And i think that the battery drain deppends of the OC, and the care of the usser.
3 days with out changer with and extremly care and oc.
I see 2.1 is more stable and faster than 2.2
because and this is happened with me
apps installed in 2.1 are the same in 2.2
but 2.2 needs more time to open the desktop and the apps menu
and sometimes appear ( problem loading widget ) so i need to reload the widget
and for that reason I'm gonna stay on 2.1 because I'm tired with 2.2
notice\ If u have any solution for the problem mentioned above please
tell me
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I disagree with the cons of v2.2.1, the camera works perfect, no instability and the battery lasts 1 1 / 2 to 2 days
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1 1/2 to 2 days... hmm. I never make it 48 hours on 2.2.. 36 with minor usage. But 2.1 with the same usage I usually make 3 days at least.
Ifiuse said:
+1, And i think that the battery drain deppends of the OC, and the care of the usser.
3 days with out changer with and extremly care and oc.
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Fair enough, but I make 3 days normally on 2.1 with mine over-clocked to 1.1GHz. At least from what I remember. I have recently gone back to 2.1 and will report back if I'm thinking of 800 MHz and got confused.
On 2.2, with 700 Mhz I never lasted much more then 36 hours, so either way I feel 2.1 is doing much better.
What mod do you guys use? or just the un-modded beta kernel?
hearts king101 said:
I see 2.1 is more stable and faster than 2.2
because and this is happened with me
apps installed in 2.1 are the same in 2.2
but 2.2 needs more time to open the desktop and the apps menu
and sometimes appear ( problem loading widget ) so i need to reload the widget
and for that reason I'm gonna stay on 2.1 because I'm tired with 2.2
notice\ If u have any solution for the problem mentioned above please
tell me
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Maybe I'm missing something but the GMail app, for one, doesn't seem to be updated on 2.1? I can't even copy/paste, I don't have the new header, etc. Can anyone correct me on this if I'm wrong?
2.1 is definately more stable.. however faster I'd say I agree with you if you install JIT beta and overclock it (which is fine, considering it still runs longer for meoverclocked than the 2.2 kernel) but without those mods its a lot more laggy for the UI.
EDIT: Apologies, I just noticed the multi-quote button. Next time I promise not to spam post.
2.1 cons: can't upload directly from website. eg, imageshack. Don't have flash support on website. Apps2sd need tedious step to install.
2.2 cons: stock camera doesn't support widescreen. Wifi instability.
Lets see how official 2.2 perform.
No Milestone camera application supports widescreen.
The stock Motorola Camera has only a crop mode that strips the top and bottom parts of the picture (lowering its resolution) that is called "widescreen"...
Also, there's no 2.2 for Milestone yet, there is only an early 2.2 beta firmware available (and there are also 2.2 ROMs that depend on components - e.g. kernel, gsm/umts stuff etc. - extracted from the early beta, which makes them beta too).
So no fair comparison is possible at this moment.
I have to add that the motorola usb networking driver is rock solid on 2.2 unlike the one from 2.1 that hangs under heavy network traffic.
This is impacts the reliability of USB tethering.
kabaldan said:
No Milestone camera application supports widescreen.
The stock Motorola Camera has only a crop mode that strips the top and bottom parts of the picture (lowering its resolution) that is called "widescreen"...
Also, there's no 2.2 for Milestone yet, there is only an early 2.2 beta firmware available (and there are also 2.2 ROMs that depend on components - e.g. kernel, gsm/umts stuff etc. - extracted from the early beta, which makes them beta too).
So no fair comparison is possible at this moment.
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It may be crop, but it still look nice.
Yeah, still waiting for the release of Q4 for EU..

LG P970 Android speed

Hi,
I recently got this phone and upgraded it to android 2.3 (V20N), but with both FroYo and Gingerbread, the phone seems to be a bit slow. Opening application list, opening apps, or even just switching desktop screens is not as smooth as i would expect it to be. Everything has a little bit of lag to it, and and switching desktop screen is a little bit choppy, not perfectly smooth...
My brother has very cheap Samsung Galaxy Mini, and every single action on his phone is a lot more fluid, responds instantly with no lag, and animations are perfectly smooth.
I think LG messed up when customizing Android for this phone. My question is... is there any way to make OS run as fast as on Samsung Galaxy Mini for example? Is there any stock android ROM available without any LG bloat added?
Thanks in advance.
It seem you have some app, which consumes your power. Try the app betterbatterystats here from the forum to identify this app. Normaly these kind of apps are realy strong battery eater.
The hotmail app is normaly a "hot" candidate of a trash app.
If you don't have success make a factory reset, of course make before a backup of your personal data.
And everytime you have the option to change to a cooked Rom like Zeuss by Huexxx. This Rom rocks!
No, i dont have any demanding apps running on background. I have battery stats app where i see that nothing consumes power, and also my battery usually lasts for over 4 days, so i dont think there is any problem with that.
The problem is that the system overall is not nearly as smooth and responsive as galaxy mini, which has a lot worse HW specs, yet it responds a lot quicker and all animation are a bit smoother. For example, in LG-edited android, pinch gesture on desktop causes very laggy animation. Widged browser by LG has very laggy scrolling and moving icons around desktop in edit mode is laggy too. Everything by LG is just laggy, and whole system doesnt respon indstantly, but with some delays.
It is not the smooth experience i want it to be.
I also want either clean Android rom, or original vendor ROM. I dont want any customized third party ROMs, for several reasons:
1, Zeus is overclocked. I hate that, it decreases hardware lifespan.
2, While ROM cooks are usually skilled editors and programmers, they are really bad designers, and usually design appearance of ROM to their own taste with no uniform aesthetics and design that would look professional. I want a professional visual design, and those unfortunately in most of the cases come only from the Google or vendors (HTC, samsung...) themselves.
3, ROM cooks usually include a lot of their bloatware. Vendors do too, i know, but in their case, those additions at least have some unified ideology.
4, Most of the custom ROMs are usually rooted. I simply don't want that.
Oh, and i forgot to add. I hate the performance of the stock ROM even right after factory reset. I did factory reset several times. But it doesn't solve speed issue by any means. The OS is just slower and laggier by its nature. The way LG altered it.
Zeus is overclock-able but by default runs on max 1000.
Give it a try. I try many rooms and always come back to it for the smooth running.
And yes LG have screwed big time the poor black on the software side.
First show this video of a stock v20, if your fone is a lot slower, give it back, to repair or to get one new or another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_uYbs0PfE&list=UU7YbxG8ZoH2OBuLc-v-VTSQ&index=3&feature=plcp
It isn't your/our job to make it work.
Over cooked ROM Zeus, base on LG v20:
1. It isn't overlocked, but you can if you want.
2. It´s nice, but you have a lot of themses to select. Original LG, ICS...
3. It have no bloadware. It is realy clean and have a costumice tool. Everything can be modified to everyone needs.
4. Everyones onwn decision.
and it is a lot more fluid that the stock one.
Ok, gotta try zeus.
Rawalanche said:
Ok, gotta try zeus.
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If you have a hardwareproblem I would'n root. Compare with above linked video. If yours is slower, give your phone back.
Well, unfortunatelly it seems that i order to instal Zeus ROM, i would need to root my phone, and i dont want to do that.
Also, yes... my phone runs exactly as fast as in the video above, but it is still not nearly as fast as Galaxy Mini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVomy_hEjpM&feature=relmfu
This is video of Galaxy Mini, it responds a lot quicker, and also animations are a lot smoother than in case of P970. Especially the pinch animation on desktop for example
I don't see a difference between the Mini in the video to mine OB with Zeus. Consider that the OB has 5x more resolution than the mini.
What you can try is another launcher like Zeam Launcher, Launcher Pro or Go Launcher. All the three works more fluid than LGs one.
Regards.
Which one of the 3 would you recommend/consider fastest?
Rawalanche said:
Which one of the 3 would you recommend/consider fastest?
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In order of appearance faster->slower, but also from some features to complex. Make a try they are simpel to install and to deinstall all 3 works good. I actually prefer 360 launcher due its features, but it isn't fast.
Ok, thank you very much. Launcher was indeed the problem. I tried all 3 and I am sticking with Launcher Pro as it seems to be fastest of the 3. My phone finally feels snappy. Thanks!

Pillama-rom-0.3

Argentinian dev max_choco issued new Pillama-rom-0.3 yesterday (link:http://d-h.st/CLX). He is obviously one of the most recognisable devs around. According to his description main characteristics of the new Rom are:
Deodexed
Zippaling
Mobile Bravia Engine
Sound Settings by max_choco
Longer lasting battery
Better fluidity
3g tweaks
Retouching wifi
Scanning slow wifi
AOSP Clock
Cron script
Jelly Charge (thanks @ zeppelinrox)
Suport init.d
Init.d script (adapted for this terminal accurate)
YouTube.apk updated
Flash player
Removed Smart Actions
Improvements shooting
Lag in the launcher eliminated
Improved GPS Accuracy
Rooted
Busybox included
Added Cron teawk's speed (thanks dev team "conquerver")
Removed notification of the ADB
Sd Card Speed ​​Fix
Kernel Tweak's
Journaling
Governor's CPU Settings
And installation instruction:
Unzip, copy the generated folder to / sdcard / ClockworkMod / backup Login to cwm recovery select backup & restore> restore> select the unzipped folder. then do wipe data, wipe cache, wipe cache davilk and wipe batery stats. Reboot system now.
All credits and rights go to max_choco (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2179009). I'm only the messenger. So don't thanks me, thanks him.
Please could you clarify as to what is Jelly Charge?
unuk50 said:
Please could you clarify as to what is Jelly Charge?
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The question should be addressed to the author, he'd know the best. But as he reffered to zeppelinrox regarding this matter, it might be assumed that improvements are regarding charger and launcher. Zeppelinrox describes these changes like features that "makes your phone fast, super snappy with better multitasking".
... here come the roms! ...
Post originial ; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=2191769
thank's for shared...!!!!!
sorry but I've got a problem...
I've the pi-llama 0.2, downloaded the 0.3, unzipped and copied the directory to clockwork mod/backup under "root/data/media/".
booted the phone into CWM 6.0.1.9, BACKUP AND RESTORE, RESTORE, can't open directory and file not found message comes.
It doesn't work with "INSTALL FROM SD CARD" using the ZIP file neither
what can i do?
I'm doing something wrong for sure...
thanx
cinaski33 said:
sorry but I've got a problem...
I've the pi-llama 0.2, downloaded the 0.3, unzipped and copied the directory to clockwork mod/backup under "root/data/media/".
booted the phone into CWM 6.0.1.9, BACKUP AND RESTORE, RESTORE, can't open directory and file not found message comes.
It doesn't work with "INSTALL FROM SD CARD" using the ZIP file neither
what can i do?
I'm doing something wrong for sure...
thanx
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likely copying it to external sd
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likely copying it to external sd
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did it. thank you. working smooth...
Hello,
Tested and adopted !
All is perfectly working !
Enjoy !
My question might be a bit too silly, but I've had an LG Optimus Black and the more you tweaked it, the better it got. However, it started to fade because of the Overclock, gps-wise and 3g-wise, everything was getting really dark. So, I decided to buy once and only an SGS3 and it died 3 days later, it literally died, nobody knows why. It IS a good phone, batter lasts about 8hs, and has a lot of power. It lags, which i didn't expect and it does not perform as well on wi-fi as a true quad core should perform. My point is: whatever it is that you do, the RAZR i does it just so fast, so good, it is like a train, maybe not the fastest and not the biggest but the most efficient. Does this phone get EVEN better by rooting/flashing custom ROMs? I'm starting to think that it just won't. The hardware seems to be polished at its maximum and working in perfect harmony.
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My question might be a bit too silly, but I've had an LG Optimus Black and the more you tweaked it, the better it got. However, it started to fade because of the Overclock, gps-wise and 3g-wise, everything was getting really dark. So, I decided to buy once and only an SGS3 and it died 3 days later, it literally died, nobody knows why. It IS a good phone, batter lasts about 8hs, and has a lot of power. It lags, which i didn't expect and it does not perform as well on wi-fi as a true quad core should perform. My point is: whatever it is that you do, the RAZR i does it just so fast, so good, it is like a train, maybe not the fastest and not the biggest but the most efficient. Does this phone get EVEN better by rooting/flashing custom ROMs? I'm starting to think that it just won't. The hardware seems to be polished at its maximum and working in perfect harmony.
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Hi,
In my opinion it gets better if it is rooted as there are some apps I use like Titanium Backup or Root explorer. Currently I do not see a need to flash a custom rom for some reasons. The phone is fast, stable and the battery lasts for at least 2 days however the architecture is x86 as you probably know. This could be the reason why the phone is not in focus of devs. Nevertheless there is the first custom rom.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191769
Whatever you do, if the phone is running ICS and you are planning to upgrade to JB I recommend to do this first.
Can anyone provide screenshot of the rom please
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nomboly said:
My question might be a bit too silly, but I've had an LG Optimus Black and the more you tweaked it, the better it got. However, it started to fade because of the Overclock, gps-wise and 3g-wise, everything was getting really dark. So, I decided to buy once and only an SGS3 and it died 3 days later, it literally died, nobody knows why. It IS a good phone, batter lasts about 8hs, and has a lot of power. It lags, which i didn't expect and it does not perform as well on wi-fi as a true quad core should perform. My point is: whatever it is that you do, the RAZR i does it just so fast, so good, it is like a train, maybe not the fastest and not the biggest but the most efficient. Does this phone get EVEN better by rooting/flashing custom ROMs? I'm starting to think that it just won't. The hardware seems to be polished at its maximum and working in perfect harmony.
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You got a point. It really doesn't get faster, because its already fastest as it could be. But this ROM gave me a better battery performance, and the fact that it its deodexed gives us more liberty to tweak around. But it isn't a must, like in other devices, have a custom ROM to get a good performance. Whit RAZR i its just a choice...
Enviado de meu XT890 usando o Tapatalk 2
Custom brightness coming soon...
Just a quick heads up regarding the brightness settings in this rom: it uses the standard brightness curves, which are far too bright.
I am working on new brightness curves for this rom, which I have working on my phone, and I will make them available very soon.
In the meantime, do not flash my modified framework-res.apk (from Matt's thread) on this rom: the mountpoint settings are different, and it work at all you will likely lose access to the internal storage.
I think the same... I'm a newbie, but I had HTC one S, Motorola Atrix 4g, this one is winning talking about battery and performance all around. I would have appreciated a better camera, but that's it. I really enjoy it, missing just some custom rom for playing a bit with, but Max Choco's has started this way for this great toy.
Thank you...
arman68 said:
Just a quick heads up regarding the brightness settings in this rom: it uses the standard brightness curves, which are far too bright.
I am working on new brightness curves for this rom, which I have working on my phone, and I will make them available very soon.
In the meantime, do not flash my modified framework-res.apk (from Matt's thread) on this rom: the mountpoint settings are different, and it work at all you will likely lose access to the internal storage.
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Any news about the brightness curves ????

Custom stock ROM comparisons?

Hi. Can anybody who flashes regularly give me a brief comparison of the current versions of dmod, benzrom and enox? Pros cons etc.
Is this kind of topic allowed? They all contain init.d and build prop tweaks etc, I want to know about smoothness, ram, bugs, user opinions etc.
Any brief summaries are welcome and of course if somebody wants to give me a long read I'd be happy to and discuss
P.S. Keep it cool, clean and fair?
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all of them are buggy ****, ****ty (not even working) unoptimized init.d causing problems, deodexed ****holes driving down the performance noticeably. battery life is ****ing horrible exept enox revenge, but enox also contains problems in non working widgets etc. (hope v5.0 is usable).
benz => ****ing ****ty bull**** ugly interface buggy options etc
dmod=> ****ty nonworking init.d, ugly interface, battery drainage by failed debloat
enox => its decent but nonworking widgets, failed debloating, slowed down cuz deodex, and fail init.d, this is the only rom having potential to develop to best rom, and better than rooted stock etc
rooted stock is the god tier option until theres fully working CM / PAC / AOSP ? or one of the roms gets really better (benz, enox, dmod).
peace. just the facts.
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all of them are buggy ****, ****ty (not even working) unoptimized init.d causing problems, deodexed ****holes driving down the performance noticeably. battery life is ****ing horrible exept enox revenge, but enox also contains problems in non working widgets etc. (hope v5.0 is usable).
benz => ****ing ****ty bull**** ugly interface buggy options etc
dmod=> ****ty nonworking init.d, ugly interface, battery drainage by failed debloat
enox => its decent but nonworking widgets, failed debloating, slowed down cuz deodex, and fail init.d, this is the only rom having potential to develop to best rom, and better than rooted stock etc
rooted stock is the god tier option until theres fully working CM / PAC / AOSP ? or one of the roms gets really better (benz, enox, dmod).
peace. just the facts.
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actually dmod is one of best roms here , i'm using it and everything works , init.d also working , and where you seen "ugly interface"? i found it excellent and is same interface like standard stock ( almost ) use a launcher and you will get off ( nova launcher prime ) , and about battery it keeps me up 3 days even with wifi on use a prompt apps to set your phone ( du battery saver - set it to airplane mode during night so you can save some battery ) otherwise everything is excelent and is moving fast ,flawless not even freezes .
Well I wanted to keep it clean but I enjoyed the responses so far (om a natural pessimist) and you're roughly both correct. Deodex degrades overall performance and the debloats are mostly failed (always re-debloat them myself after installation), init.d tweaks have caused me problems.. Although I don't mind the user interfaces I am starting to think rooted stock is the best option unless somebody makes a real barebones option...
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BenzROM lots of useful features however i find that some are more than what I need
DmonROM nice look and feel, just a bit of a heavy ROM not suited to my requirements
enoxROM nice look and feel, could do with a few more tweaks and features
barebones ROM is what i was aiming for with my FaustROM, which ended up being a bit of a fail so have not done any additional work on it
instead have done a mod/port of the enox ROM which I have used some of the apks but used most of the other stuff from my original FaustROM
i get decent battery time, decent performance playing games like FF6 and Iron Man 3 without any lag

[Q]About firmwares and custom roms etc.

Hello people.
I recently bought an xperia z1. A very nice phone which works really well, except for a few things. Hence this topic.
I experience good battery life and quite fast loading of apps etc, but i notice that scrolling inside some apps goes stuttery and laggy. Something i didn't expect from a phone with this kinda hardware. Ecspecially phonebook, call log and gmail have problems with this, just like facebook for example.
Now the questions.
Is this a thing that will be fixed in a future firmware release? And if i install a custom rom using a something like doomkernel, will this issue be better?
It really bothers me somehow, and i don't mind unlocking the bootloader to fix this issue. But if i'm not sure that it will fix this stutter and lag, i think it might not be worth it getting problems etc with warranty.
Thanks in advance for answering
Yes, it can be improved. There is not fix on that and no one can said perfectly what is related too. I got some light laggy launcher but i live with that as it do more stuff than the stock one.
So, if you find an application laggy is not the phone, is the application it self which is badly coded and don't working correctly as it should.
I give you an example, I have Virtua Tennis purchased long time ago, V2.0, then updates after updates the game become laggy as hell, what that mean, that mean updates are ment to improve the application but if they are bad coded they will give you laggy issues, I reverted to v2.0.
At the end I don't think a Firmware will solve all this problems but you can be sure, you will get improvements installing Custom Roms or Custom Kernels which are ment to performing your device.
I don't saying it is worth to unlock bootloader, check also the applications which working in background, all the time they are the main reason for laggy phone as they run and eat ram and CPU.
You have to spend time flashing some latest FW and find the most stable combination.
eclyptos said:
Yes, it can be improved. There is not fix on that and no one can said perfectly what is related too. I got some light laggy launcher but i live with that as it do more stuff than the stock one.
So, if you find an application laggy is not the phone, is the application it self which is badly coded and don't working correctly as it should.
I give you an example, I have Virtua Tennis purchased long time ago, V2.0, then updates after updates the game become laggy as hell, what that mean, that mean updates are ment to improve the application but if they are bad coded they will give you laggy issues, I reverted to v2.0.
At the end I don't think a Firmware will solve all this problems but you can be sure, you will get improvements installing Custom Roms or Custom Kernels which are ment to performing your device.
I don't saying it is worth to unlock bootloader, check also the applications which working in background, all the time they are the main reason for laggy phone as they run and eat ram and CPU.
You have to spend time flashing some latest FW and find the most stable combination.
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Thanks for the quick answer!
And what you're saying about the background apps eating ram and cpu, i was thinking the same thing. I notice the lag is random, sometimes it goes quite fluent and sometimes its like i'm working with a phone that can't handle the os because of low specs. Really weird. Is there any tool that gives detailed insight into these background apps and stuff?
The main thing bothering me is the phone/phonebook/call log app which is delivered from sony itself. It's just text, and even that makes the scrolling in that app very stuttery. While i get updates for apps like album, and the scrolling inside that app goes smooth as silk. Just like scrolling within chrome (although it sometimes hangs for a very short moment).
And btw. rooting and deodexing without unlocking the bootloader, will that help too? I guess there's tools that make better performance too then. Or is working with unlocked bootloader better?
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Is there any tool that gives detailed insight into these background apps and stuff?
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Yes, there is an application which check what application wake up your phone or running when the phone is in sleep or even when it should be off but is not. At the moment I don't remember that application as I never used that one, but I know there is as it was mentioned many times for the same reason and battery drain.
saintgein said:
And btw. rooting and deodexing without unlocking the bootloader, will that help too? I guess there's tools that make better performance too then. Or is working with unlocked bootloader better?
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Root your phone will definitely help in many ways as many Applications to check your system need Root access, and also if you find an system app that cause your issues and uninstalling is necessary then Root is needed too. Deodexing can improve the customization as it meant for it but is not for performance, so is just up to you if you want to do it or not. There is no tool which will improve performance on your phone, my personal opinion they are all junk application, like the kind of System cleaner. Android is not Windows.
Rooting and Deodexing can be done without Unlocking Bootloader. Unlocking Bootloader is for flash Custom Kernels only. You still can flash Custom Roms based on Stock Kernels.
I'm really thinking of doing that right now. Also because of scrolling cache, which i think might be the cause for the issue i'm having trouble with.
Do you know something about it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2762732
saintgein said:
I'm really thinking of doing that right now. Also because of scrolling cache, which i think might be the cause for the issue i'm having trouble with.
Do you know something about it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2762732
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Not really but that kind of stuff it can not be done without Root, I guess.
Where did you find the information about it?
eclyptos said:
Not really but that kind of stuff it can not be done without Root, I guess.
Where did you find the information about it?
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I noticed that custom roms like romaur and ihackers included that mod. Then i looked it up on google and found some articles which said that many apps have a bad way of handling that cache. I also don't have any experience with other firmwares than the unrooted 4.4.2. Hence my question.
Now i'm also thinking that sony puts alot of effort into optimizing apps for this purpose with new devices, maybe that's why i hear that the 4.2.2 experiences are much better than the newest 4.4.2. But that can also be a bit negative thinking, since i still got hope that future firmwares will make scrolling through call log/phonebook or gmail better.
Although on my old xperia s i noticed the same. With the 4.1 firmware installed, the facebook app scrolled alot better then the with the updates that came after it. Just like stock browser always been the best scroller. Unlike chrome and firefox for example. On my z1 chrome clearly is the best scroller btw, just hangs sometimes. But then it's on long facebook pages etc. Otherwise its very fluent.

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