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about diamond camera

what's about diamond's camera quality?

i´m also curious
if possible post some fotos by diamond camera?

You can see some photos at
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Touch-Diamond-Review-review-r_1956-p_5.html
There's also a nice review there

very good!
but my photos not so great
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took photos myself for test in different enviroments and wether conditions.

See these:
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1365731&page=35&pp=15&highlight=lens
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1365731&page=37&pp=15&highlight=lens
Though they req'd some minor mods...

OK...I have an interesting camera question. The XPERIA X1 is fairly similar in specification, and yet that can do 640x400px 30fps videos (according to PDAdb and Wikipedia) while the Touch Diamond can only do 320x240px 30fps videos. People have fiddled with the registry to get better video quality settings on other HTC devices, so does anyone know of something that I have overlooked which may make such a hack/upgrade impossible or not worth trying?
If not, can someone with the device please search the forums for details on how this was done before and see if they can record 640x400 or 640x480 30fps videos with their Touch Diamond.

YES !
brilliant, just what i've been scouring the net for the last hour....
..... VIDEO RECORDING DETAILS !
as DARK FIRE asks, the sony Xperia has the same chip driving the device and can do VGA video recording @30fps.
(unless you live in USA! political problems it seems lol!).
the 2 main deciding factors that i'm thinking of between getting an Xperia or a touch pro (raphael) are:
1)800*640 resolution is sweet, but on a 3" screen may be too much squeezed into too little. after having my universal for the last 3 years i love the big screen.
(i drooled over Qualcomm's SNAPDRAGON prototype!).
2)the video camera [email protected]
i want the camera recording feature as a priority, so if the diamond DOESN'T have [email protected] then that makes my mind up easy for the Xperia.
if, BOTH can do good video recording, then i'll need to think about the only issue of the screen size and resolution.
nowhere on the net could i find anyone reviewing the diamond and mention the video recording/playback quality,etc.
they always stop at the still camera shots.
so who's 1st to confirm the official spec of the diamond regarding video recording, and if any exist...hacks to improve it!

p3ngwin said:
brilliant, just what i've been scouring the net for the last hour....
..... VIDEO RECORDING DETAILS !
as DARK FIRE asks, the sony Xperia has the same chip driving the device and can do VGA video recording @30fps.
(unless you live in USA! political problems it seems lol!).
nowhere on the net could i find anyone reviewing the diamond and mention the video recording/playback quality,etc.
they always stop at the still camera shots.
so who's 1st to confirm the official spec of the diamond regarding video recording, and if any exist...hacks to improve it!
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Here you go mate: http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article775.html
On the middle of the page you'll find a link to download a clip recorded with diamond in it's original format. That video has on average about 19fps. Seems like the fps depends on lighting condition. lower lighting condition = low fps

AF241 said:
Here you go mate: http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article775.html
On the middle of the page you'll find a link to download a clip recorded with diamond in it's original format. That video has on average about 19fps. Seems like the fps depends on lighting condition. lower lighting condition = low fps
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i'm disappointed with the resolution & framerate from the 2 recordings on that site
those videos were Qvga and barely scraped above 20fps ( as you mentioned).
there is definatly something the matter with the software if it can't record [email protected]
the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 will (once finalized, as stated in the specs) record [email protected] in 2 formats, using the SAME CHIPSET as Diamond!
another example, the LG viewty, can record [email protected], QVGA up to 120fps.....although it is a different chipset and has the benefit of the Divx codec.
on this site, horrible as 1/2 the content & it's layout may be, the guy has a pre-production Xperia and plays around with it a lot.
on the topic of video recording, he takes a few videos, but his site uses GOOGLE VIDEO as a host.
the original Xperia recording is re-encoded for the web.this translates into even more artifacing and framerate issues.
he does give solid information about the quality and framerate of the Xperia's recordings, saying :
"The Quality of the video is much, much better when viewed on the X1 or from your computer.
The conversion process by Google to host this video has caused a degradation in quality and graininess that is not there when you view it as an original.
The Prototype does not have a menu for other video formats at this time, and, this video is in MPG4.3gpp format in about a 20mb file size.
Higher quality formats will be on-board in the commercial version. Already the frame rate has been improved from about 10 frames/sec to 22 frames/sec actual with a slight ROM improvement from .74 ROM to .75 ROM...."
the Nokia N93/95 series phones record very good video.
the Qualcomm chip found in the Diamond/Xperia SHOULD be able to at least match this.
here are videos recorded on the Nokia N93/N95.
video recording at a decent resolution and framerate is an important feature for me.
if the diamond struggles to do [email protected] then i will get the Xperia or something better later this year.....(like a SNAPDRAGON based device).

Optika said:
very good!
but my photos not so great
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You MUST be kidding, right? The HTC Touch Diamond camera is HORRIBLE.
If you take a picture of a not moving object like a building at very good light conditions, you may get a decent picture. Otherwise, this camera is USELESS and provides a horrible quality.
If you want to know what I'm talking about, compare the Touch Diamond camera to the Nokia E90 camera which has the same MP size.
Or if you really want to see what is possible with a TINY cell phone camera, get the new SonyEricsson C902 phone which is thinner and less wide than the Touch Diamond and it's pictures are incredibly good, almost at Nokia N95 level.
Also very important: shutter release speed and focusing speed, the C902 is aprox. three times faster than the Touch Diamond. OUCH.
The lack of a photo flash/light is also a problem.
So if you're looking for a good cell phone camera, the Touch Diamond is the wrong place to find it.

Quick question. Please read :X

Ok, So the camera's 3.2 mega pixel and the video recorder records pretty low res.
Would it be possible to edit the recorder so that it can record higher res/better quality?

Or is there any apps or console commands to change this

Unfortunatly the camera is very poor and nothing will fix it. Thats all there is too it.

Ok, Well that didn't answer my question.
Any the camera isn't poor it works great, Its a bit crappy in low light but still it looks awesome and better then a 5mp camera phone from samsung.

Frito37 said:
Ok, Well that didn't answer my question.
Any the camera isn't poor it works great, Its a bit crappy in low light but still it looks awesome and better then a 5mp camera phone from samsung.
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I actually have to agree with this as I've had the G600 and that camera SUCKED no matter what PhoneArena says. I noticed i would only use the G1 for pictures so i got rid of the 600

I took a picture of my eye and then shooped the hell outta it. (I added alot of the spots and wrinkles :X)
This is a resized/croped version, Hell you can see the g1 reflection in my eye.
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Its a nice camera!

Anyone? I still would like this answered

nice fake :-D

your question was answered in post 3 but ill repeat it for you.
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Unfortunatly the camera is very poor and nothing will fix it. Thats all there is too it.
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Ok you must not be able to read.
I'm not asking about quality of the camera.
Im asking if its at all possible to make video RECORDING better or higher res.
And what do you mean by nice fake?
If ur implying the pictures fake, Its not at all fake and was taken by my g1.

It depends alot on bandwidth of memory in the device. I dont know if it is possible right now to make a better/higer quality video recorder. If Google creates API's that take advantage of the full potential of the graphics chips we may get a better camcorder app.

I updated to hero and it seems to have a bit better video recording
but thats because of the codec it uses.

xsnipuhx said:
your question was answered in post 3 but ill repeat it for you.
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Seriously, read the freaking thread before saying something stupid.
As for the question, I'm sure a developer could create a new app for higher resolution video recorder because it has been done on other devices. Try requesting it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446769

just2good4u3434 said:
Seriously, read the freaking thread before saying something stupid.
As for the question, I'm sure a developer could create a new app for higher resolution video recorder because it has been done on other devices. Try requesting it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446769
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Thanks.
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post removed, misunderstood question

No, and the reason is:
A still camera has a longer exposure time and can dedicate more light overtime for each picture. A video has to a expose an image 30 times a second, so in order to expose properly the camera must take many pixels from the ccd and group them together as 1 pixel reducing image size for video. (I could be done by reducing FPS, but that will only go so far.)
And there is also issues with video format standards and the G1 ability to play back video to consider as well.

Heck, even my Canon 5D Mark II can only record video at 1/10th of the resolution it captures still images at. It does video at 1920x1080 or 2,073,600 pixels, whereas still images are captured at 5616x3744 or 21,026,304 pixels.
I think people expect far too much from a phone that has a camera that probably cost $15 to manufacture (the camera part - not the whole phone).

No I dont exspect it to do better i just wondering if it could.

Is there any possibility to improve the camera on OB?

all the pictures are blurry and the videos taken with the camera stops eventually for half a second (I guess this is because of the stock sdcard).
Is there any possibility to improve the camera performance to get clean pictures?
Thank you in advance,
Haitzo

I've no problem with my camera (good picture) or for video recording (except strange ration for 720p).
I think it's maybe your LG black who has defect ?

I agree with guyTam

I mean with not good light conditions, all the pictures are blurry. I have read the same problem on other users. The video issue is probably because of the stock sd card.
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haitzo said:
I mean with not good light conditions, all the pictures are blurry.
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That's with all phone cameras. They only work in perfect conditions. Sensor is too small for quality photo taking. Maybe with some Carl Zeiss, yes, you will get some nice looking photos.
Does that happen when you take landscape photos or with closer objects too?
I had similar problems with video recording but since started to use NOVA ROM, I don't any more. I have stock SD card.

No problems taking photos to landscapes, just in interiors and night pictures. I am using Pays rom, do you recommend me using nova? I am reading the thread and I thinks is still a little bit buggy?
Thank you

They both work better than stock. Tried both, I like Nova ROM more because of longer (by a lot) battery life. I don't play games so I don't know if they perform different speed wise. There is some bug with SD card but that's all.
If there will be some update for camera app, it will be from LG in next update (I hope). I don't think that anyone else can make any tweaks for stock app. Maybe some other app with filters like unsharp mask in Photoshop could do the trick.

quyTam said:
I've no problem with my camera (good picture) or for video recording (except strange ration for 720p).
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that's what i've noticed also... whenever i take videos and play them on the phone's video player, it looks fine, but when i transfer it to my laptop it looks kinda weird.
btw, the 5mp camera takes very nice stills. best one i had so far.

yeah because the lens sensor is too small; ƒ, shutter speed, can't be compared to real camera & the preview is only 4 inches resized to 800x480 obviously it looks good on phone, for excellent result you may not move/shake at all while taking a shot (if it possible, use a tripod). if the outdoor light is not enough... it can't be helped. ISO adjustment just makes your result even worse. here the example for outdoor shot from my phone:
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not too good for a camera but good enough for camera phone

lesp4ul said:
not too good for a camera but good enough for camera phone
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You are perfectly right

the aspect ratio of the videos recorded needs to be fixed, im surprised that LG hasn't fixed this after so long.
would be epic if devs managed to fix this before LG does

yeomond said:
the aspect ratio of the videos recorded needs to be fixed, im surprised that LG hasn't fixed this after so long.
would be epic if devs managed to fix this before LG does
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And the video format should not 3gp. The encoded results is horrible. Blurred, grainy, and awful audio quality.
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lesp4ul said:
And the video format should not 3gp. The encoded results is horrible. Blurred, grainy, and awful audio quality.
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I agree this one....the video format should be mp4.

I dont know what I did, But i just installed the stock rom after removing Nova. And surprisingly, the camera is taking awesome clicks. No speed lags for shutter/review. Aspect ratios seem fine for videos. And the video quality is amazingly improved.
Did someone just mention that Nova has better battery life ? What about pays ? hows the battery life on that ?

Post Pictures Taken with Xperia Z

Hi guys,
The best thing after design is Camera of Xperia Z, post some cool shots taken with your XZ (plz post 1image per post)
Note: If you like anybody's pics HIT THANKS !!!
Just to start here is mine.
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This was taken with hdr camera+ in quite low light.
Was comparing different camera apps last night.
Unfortunately the stock camera app either blurred it out, or fired flash and I got a blue white glare.

fards said:
This was taken with hdr camera+ in quite low light.
Was comparing different camera apps last night.
Unfortunately the stock camera app either blurred it out, or fired flash and I got a blue white glare.
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Dude, can you post the same shot taken by default camera !!
sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2

auto+

Stock camera auto+
obviously flash fired, unfortunately it appears to cause a glare

Stock camera forced hDr no flash (same as the hdr camera+ app)
As I said I think the stock app(appears to be customized Corel suite that several oems use) is the issue with this device.

fards said:
Stock camera forced hDr no flash (same as the hdr camera+ app)
As I said I think the stock app(appears to be customized Corel suite that several oems use) is the issue with this device.
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so for now which camera app you would suggest? thanks.

Picture taken in low light - My Ipad Mini
Auto Mode
sent from Xperia Z

fards said:
Stock camera forced hDr no flash (same as the hdr camera+ app)
As I said I think the stock app(appears to be customized Corel suite that several oems use) is the issue with this device.
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I just spilled tea all over myself laughing at your signature.
Wow..

fards said:
That phones too big!
why?
have you never held anything bigger than 4" in your hand? .
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LOL for ur Signature !!

All done in superior auto mode:

Akiainavas said:
All done in superior auto mode:
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Wow, I love the first one. I can't wait to take pictures of the beach!

MY little baby....it just rotate in the weird way lol.

I have done some tests today, simply to compare HDR and non-HDR photos (both in Normal Mode)
Without HDR :
With HDR :
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Without HDR :
With HDR :
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Without HDR :
With HDR :
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Without HDR :
With HDR :
Personally I think that in most cases HDR are a bit washed out.
HDR processing engine in XZ is not the best (I know what I am talking about, been doing photos for years ... with 60D, now with 7D over a year, processing with PS CS3, CS4 and now CS5).
What do you think guys ?

personally I think it's not post-processing the HDR properly, it's just saving the last exposure, (the stock camera takes 3 the same as the hdr+ app) then combines them.
You can see the different ones appear in the thumbnail preview in the stock camera app when you take a hdr photo, the last one is the one that shows up.
Must have a look at the logs, see if there's anything obvious.

fards said:
personally I think it's not post-processing the HDR properly, it's just saving the last exposure, (the stock camera takes 3 the same as the hdr+ app) then combines them.
You can see the different ones appear in the thumbnail preview in the stock camera app when you take a hdr photo, the last one is the one that shows up.
Must have a look at the logs, see if there's anything obvious.
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I wouldnt fully agree that it shows last from the 3. If it was, buildings would be properly exposed and the sky much over exposed. Like you can see this is not the case as the sky is still properly exposed.
Where to find these logs ?
I believe you are not talking about picture EXIF ?

Akiainavas said:
All done in superior auto mode:
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Looks like Basingstoke!
Sent from my C6603 using xda premium

here mine. one with auto and the other using panorama.

There's something wrong with some of your cameras,
it makes the sky look blue...
When everyone in the UK knows that it's grey
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trickyhenry said:
Looks like Basingstoke!
Sent from my C6603 using xda premium
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Because it is
fards said:
There's something wrong with some of your cameras,
it makes the sky look blue...
When everyone in the UK knows that it's grey
Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk 2
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I've seen the sun yesterday. I know, shocking!

[tip] improve the quality of your camera's photos

Well... First of all, sorry if im posting in the wrong section or something inappropriate, I just want to share this knowledge. Second, sorry for any english mistake, its not my native language.
The tip is very simple, no need to root, flash, or nothing like. Since the photos nowdays comes strongly processed and that throws away a lot of image detail, the tip goal is to get an image with practically no processing just like raw.
My device is the ZE550KL with snapdragon 410, 16gb, 2gb ram, with stock android 5.0.2. And have tested on it only. Please reply if it worked in your different device/rom.
Step 1: install Snap Camera HDR trial.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marginz.snaptrial
Open the app and wait the 10 sec limit.
Step 2: on photo settings, scroll down and uncheck "denoise". This will turn off the noise reduction.
Step 3: still on photo settings, set "sharpness" to -3. This will turn off digital sharpening, instead of reduce sharpness. You can notice a lot less noise due to noise not sharpened.
Step 4: repeat the same for the front camera settings and set "exposure" to -1. This will compensate a bug that makes front camera photos to overexpose 1 stop.
Ps: the app do not show shutter speed control, but you can set it on asus camera (up to 1 sec) and go to snap app and it will affect the shutter speed there.
Download the attachment to see a sample test.
Hope this can be useful to someone else.

Thank bro.....
But take a picture at night does it better stock camera ?!?

ValKyre said:
Thank bro.....
But take a picture at night does it better stock camera ?!?
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You know, we change the app but the camera is the same. The difference is in the post-processing. We might notice more noise, but I can assure you that there will be a lot more detail, with more expressive difference with front camera photos. Personally, I find that the photos with more detail are a lot better, so my answer to your question is yes. But some people may like better pictures more processed.

Ingloryon said:
You know, we change the app but the camera is the same. The difference is in the post-processing. We might notice more noise, but I can assure you that there will be a lot more detail, with more expressive difference with front camera photos. Personally, I find that the photos with more detail are a lot better, so my answer to your question is yes. But some people may like better pictures more processed.
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Great... Thank u... ^^
Because i see my zen 2 laser (8mpx) take a photo at night.... Bad....,long focus,and too noice
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I try some app and take camera HDR....
Follow u which is best?
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Great... Thank u... ^^
Because i see my zen 2 laser (8mpx) take a photo at night.... Bad....,long focus,and too noice
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I try some app and take camera HDR....
Follow u which is best?
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i tried stock camera for HDR, most of the time it is useless..

feinz91 said:
i tried stock camera for HDR, most of the time it is useless..
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Hmm.... I use stock cam hdr ..... It too bright @@

One questions... This camera app has more modes. HDR, Portrait...
Do I need to make the same changes to every mode I want to use?

vraciu' said:
One questions... This camera app has more modes. HDR, Portrait...
Do I need to make the same changes to every mode I want to use?
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Yes, those camera modes are something like "presets". Each one has different app settings. I find this feature kinda useless for my device.

Ingloryon said:
Well... First of all, sorry if im posting in the wrong section or something inappropriate, I just want to share this knowledge. Second, sorry for any english mistake, its not my native language.
The tip is very simple, no need to root, flash, or nothing like. Since the photos nowdays comes strongly processed and that throws away a lot of image detail, the tip goal is to get an image with practically no processing just like raw.
My device is the ZE550KL with snapdragon 410, 16gb, 2gb ram, with stock android 5.0.2. And have tested on it only. Please reply if it worked in your different device/rom.
Step 1: install Snap Camera HDR trial.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marginz.snaptrial
Open the app and wait the 10 sec limit.
Step 2: on photo settings, scroll down and uncheck "denoise". This will turn off the noise reduction.
Step 3: still on photo settings, set "sharpness" to -3. This will turn off digital sharpening, instead of reduce sharpness. You can notice a lot less noise due to noise not sharpened.
Step 4: repeat the same for the front camera settings and set "exposure" to -1. This will compensate a bug that makes front camera photos to overexpose 1 stop.
Ps: the app do not show shutter speed control, but you can set it on asus camera (up to 1 sec) and go to snap app and it will affect the shutter speed there.
Download the attachment to see a sample test.
Hope this can be useful to someone else.
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,........................
Super tip bro ...
I just followed it and got shot some nice photographs of my pet . .
Thanks man ...
Keep up the tip sharing ..:good:

Thx for the tips
Thanks for this usefull tips my camera can now be like proffetional dslr

Thanks :good:

How to set denoise option in j700h??????? Blessed help stock camera is suck

Strange....
I do not see either "denoise" or "sharpness" in the latest version.
Do you think they might have moved somewhere else - or does not work anymore?
Thanks

I wish this also worked in my PadFone S.
The camera in this phone is good. The exposure and white balance is almost always spot on but when I zoom in on photos, it looks like garbage because of the low quality post processing.