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Vote on Rootzwiki to help get CM7 to bionic

VOTE AGAIN ROUND TWO!
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?7634-Round-2-Battle-for-the-Bionic-Dev-Giveaway
Vote for RevNumbers
He did a great job on Droid 2 and it would be great to have him with cvpcs working on the bionic

Been using CM7 for awhile on Fascinate and Droid, I am still hmm not quiet sure I want to put CM on Bionic...soo much bugs, so unstable..eheheh

Bump! The race is close, single digits close! Help Rev over the top!

BUMP FOR ROUND two

Why the heck not, I love CM7, BUMP
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For anyone who wants CM7 on their bionic, I highly recommend going the extra mile to register with the site, if you are not already, because if the CM7 team has the bionic, it can finnaly be developed for
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CVPCS already has a bionic, and has been working on it since about launch day. He had it booted in about a day.
This phone will get CM7 no matter who you vote for. If I were you guys, I would vote for a non CM7 person (like Nitro or Liquid) so we can get some variety.
Just my 2 cents...
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mistawolfe said:
CVPCS already has a bionic, and has been working on it since about launch day. He had it booted in about a day.
This phone will get CM7 no matter who you vote for. If I were you guys, I would vote for a non CM7 person (like Nitro or Liquid) so we can get some variety.
Just my 2 cents...
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Those guys are already out of the running. There was a tie between Rev and Framework earlier today and there's now a 1v1 vote up to be the tie breaker.

And then along came Debbie Downer:
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Ok, I see lots of "cm7 ftw" type comments. I thought my post in the other thread would be enough, but maybe it should be said again.
AOSP/MIUI will not come to this phone anytime in the foreseeable future. Let me break it down like this.
Remember on the Evo back before shinzul and toast got wimax working? We are kinda in the same position again. Here we are, faced with devices that contain a totally new form of data. One that isn't available in the aosp repos. One that we have no reference code for. One that the code is different for on each lte device.
Your first question is probably, "Well they did it on the Thunderbolt, why not the Bionic?" Fair question, and seeing as we got aosp and lte on that device witgout the help of cm, I think I'm in a position to answer it. The thunderbolt runs a qualcomm chip, unlike the charge and the bionic. Qulacomm has this nifty little site called Code Aurora Forums. CAF is where all the lte code came from. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but neither slayher nor xoomdev wrote 99% of the lte code. The difficult part with the bolt was making it all work with our existing rom code.
This code WILL NOT work on non qualcomm devices, I would hope that goes without saying.
So where's that leave us you ask? SOL. Or **** out of luck for those of you who don't know l33t sp3ak.
Remember my comment about wimax and team w1n? Those guys literally wrote the wimax code FROM SCRATCH. And it took FOREVER. The evo just got wimax on aosp months ago, and how long was the device out for?
What's this all actually mean you ask? It means don't expect with one of these guys to bring miui or cm7 or anything non blur based to this device. Not that I think either of these guys arent amazing devs, they both are. No disrespect to either one, but I think even they would agree that they aren't up to the challange of writing lte literally from nothing.
Also, one more thing on the wimax-evo/lte-bionic comparison. Yea, before the evo got wimax, it still had 3g and was a perfectly functional Rom. In this case its going to be a little different.
DISCLAIMER
The follow statements are the only thing in this post I ccannot 100% back up. I'm 99% of their correctness, but could be wrong.
With my experience with lte, its all or nothing. You don't get working 3g and no 4g. You get it all or you get basically an ipodtouch. Nothing but wifi.
Now, someone did mention that the bionic has seperate radios, unlike the bolt. They used this as an argument that 3g can be fixed before 4g is made to work. My argument against that is to look at the current cm7 build for the bionic. No data. No 3g. Data is RARELY an obstacle for aosp on devices. Usually only when something weird is going on, like what Samsung does, or where lte is involved.
Again, I could be wrong. But I doubt it.
Tldr : Quit expecting aosp on this device. And if you ***** out whoever wins for not getting aosp booted, I will personally print out this post, find you and shove it down your throat.
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The only reason it hurts so much is because it's likely 100% true :'(

Why would I want anyone wasting their time on CM7 for Bionic? I know that it's fun to get hold of lots of new ROMs and spend all your free time every evening trying new ones, but it's going to take a while and in the meantime, there's this Ice Cream Sandwich thing (anybody else heard of it) that's coming out.
Love the CM offerings; CM7 was fun on my Eris... but would be as enticing as Eclair with modded Sense on my Bionic! Anybody have a good reason to pursue this further aside from new toys???

The more the merrier?
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quentin0 said:
And then along came Debbie Downer:
The only reason it hurts so much is because it's likely 100% true :'(
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All he's really saying is don't be a c*nt if one or the other comes out with nothing immediately. Understand what's what going in, etc.

idefiler6 said:
All he's really saying is don't be a c*nt if one or the other comes out with nothing immediately. Understand what's what going in, etc.
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Its a new technology naturally it will take longer to figure out ^_^

Is it me or is it slowing down

I haven't seen much on roms lately. All the one's out here aren't stable either. We only have a couple fully working roms and none of them are being update. If I get a new phone any suggestions on what it should be to take advantage of the most fully functional roms?
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I found Liberty ROM to be quite stable, and while I don't want to jinx it, I've been running Maverick 4.0 for a day or so and it seems great!
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked, it will open up more kernel dev options (for the genius' out there!) which could open up more/better ROM possibilities for us (fingers crossed).
I don't think I'll be upgrading to another phone until a new physical keyboard model comes out. And hopefully it's quad-core with at least a gig of RAM. (512mb on my XT860 has been killing me) ;D

Unfortunately I dont think the kernel will ever be unlocked on our phones... that's Motorola for you.
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But now it's Google...we may get lucky
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Ever since they switched to the nightlies and stopped posting new beta's on here It slowed down, IMO.
I'm happy with Mavrom 4.0 I guess, but would've loved to see hashcode etc. focussing on getting video on ICS, rather than adding features etc. Other ROM makers could've tried that. Who cares about advanced settings when you can't even record a video?

Google is going to probably sell Motorola hardware section to Huawei and keep the core just as legal requirements. Also, they said they are not going to interfere with Motorola decisions on their products. Google only bought Motorola for their parents, nothing more, nothing less.
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Exactly ... but I don't want this to be a Motorola bash... even tho its easy to do... lol... so for now I would like to see a list of roms that are fully functional. I'm on liberty and I keep going back to that just because everything works... what other roms are in this category. And I agree that a extra features aren't important till a fully or close to fully completely working roms is in place. What's the point of all the bells and whistles if you can't even use the basic functions of a phone.. don't get me wrong now. I love trying new roms but it becomes a downer when you get one that has cool extras but you end up going back to a working rom for taking video or watching Netflix .... even if your on safestrap to go back to that functional rom. And the other question is if I change phones what would be a good phone to go to just for rom purposes ...
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The problem iswith the hardware codes and drivers. Every phone probably has this problem with ics. They add more features cause this is almost impossible. The attic has a really good developer support. I would definitely go back yo it if I could but I had nothing but problems with mine. Anyone know how to make a rom? I wanna get into it.
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Atrixn00b said:
The attic has a really good developer support.
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I assume you mean Atrix instead of attic?

The real issue to all of the problems is the bootloader. When you can customize the kernel to fit your rom you pretty much take care of any problems. Not to say there aren't roms with custom kernels that don't have issues .... there are but thats due to other things. Programming or incompatibly issues. All of our roms are franken roms held together by bungee cords and duct tape. The devs do a great job with what they have at hand so when time comes for them to build a rom on a phone with a unlocked bootloader, I don't blame them.. much more freedom and the ability to create awesome roms the way they want. All the stable roms we have are just built around the original with some cleaning up and a splash of color... I wonder what it feels like to know when you pick a rom no matter what it is and you know its going to work and the only reason you don't stick with it is because you don't like the way it looks or it doesn't have a extra you want... how sweet.
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Yeah... it was good when i had my Desire Z. All kinds of roms for that thing!
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[q] why no new vivid roms ?

Why has there not been any new htc vivid development ? The roms that are available seem to all be on hold ? This is a great phone, the rom im using is great but wondering about any new development or updates.

Cause this phone is hard to dev for....
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mrwranglers42 said:
Why has there not been any new htc vivid development ? The roms that are available seem to all be on hold ? This is a great phone, the rom im using is great but wondering about any new development or updates.
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if you want different roms theres always miui or de-sensed just google them cant post links here

The other reason is because a lot of the devs who worked on this phone have move on to the HTC One or SGIII. This phone is over a year old, which is a lifetime in phoneyears, unfortunately.

this badass named mg2195 is deving a cm10 rom ^-^

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ess.boyer said:
The other reason is because a lot of the devs who worked on this phone have move on to the HTC One or SGIII. This phone is over a year old, which is a lifetime in phoneyears, unfortunately.
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That is a load of crap I have been through alot of phones and they all have alot more roms to offer than the vivid.

dealtsoul said:
That is a load of crap I have been through alot of phones and they all have alot more roms to offer than the vivid.
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Woahhh there don't get angry xD It's due to the age (most dev's want the newest and best phone) and also due to the fact that this phone just wasnt that popular...

If its not popular why is the HTC hd2 still getting development and that was launched waaaaay back. And how is this phone hard to dev for???
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The phone is just full of shotty hacked up htc code. They just threw together a bit of everything to make it work, which kinda ruined it for everyone wanting to create custom non-sense based roms

Instead of posting multiple threads in here about why there aren't more ROMs, why not go talk to the makers of ROMs such as JellyBro and JellyBam to see if they will support our device, now that we're cm10 official. Or go create your own.
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No need for 4.2

Kind of funny but I've been thinking about this. 4.2 is almost an update designed to make bare bones aosp android better, and does almost nothing for a phone with a manufacturer skin. 4.1 would be great on this phone with project butter, better notifications, and Google now, but here's the rundown on 4.2 features:
Better camera app: sense 3.6 already has a nicer one than aosp. No photosphere but its kinda of a gimmick "look what my phone can do" feature anyway. The stock camera app has always sucked until 4.2 and the update finally brings it up to par with custom ui's, but does nothing for us.
Improved lockscreen with widget support : sense pretty much has the best lockscreen with shortcut support and notification widgets that appear through sense apps. Custom widget support would be nice but aosp still doesn't have shortcut support.
Gesture typing: yep, we got it on the stock "touch input" keyboard. next
Quick settings : yep sense has that too
Tv out support : while we don't have miracast support, about every htc device post evo 4G has either an hdmi port or mhl support. I'm sure the vivid is no different, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Better alarm clock app : the aosp alarm clock app has always been an after thought until 4.2,however ui's like sense and touchwiz have always had really nice alarm clock apps and the 4.2 app really just brings stock aosp up to par with the ui's
User profiles: this feature is tablet only and disabled on the phones so the vivid wouldn't get it anyway.
I think that's about it. So there you have it! I really kind of believe 4.2 is catered to nexus devices, and I honestly could see a lot of manufacturers passing on this as if they do update, then it'll be little more than a version number change. If you're in the market for a non nexus phone and it has 4.1, then your already up to date.
Just something I thought about. Thoughts?
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And before anyone calls me out, I got a nexus 7, so I use 4.2 on a daily basis, so I'm not just posting on stuff I've read lol.
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I have a nexus 7 also and personally I'd like to see 4.2 on the vivid because I HATE sense.... Didn't realize how much I didn't like it until I played with pure android. But I'm guessing that if we can't get CM10 to work on this phone, there'd be no reason to worry about 4.2 or not!
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Yeah I'm not to keen on sense either, thought it was awesome until I got a phone with it and had to use it every day. If by some Longshot we get jellybean, I hope it comes with Sense 4+ and not the underwhelming sense 3.6 that's on this phone now. From what I've seen sense 4 is world's ahead of what we have.
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Once cm10 is completed bring 4.2 will be easy as there isn't much difference between 4.1.2 and 4.3 when it comes to making things work
Anyways I love the 4.2 camera...and I think I read others here on the vivid are able to use it on ICS....
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Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Cor-master said:
Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Lol I feel the same...but since I have the phone and at least somewhat knowledge on this stuff I figured I might as well try my best...that being said I hate HTC and will never get another one...this vivid ruined it for me. Like you say, stock wise this phone is great...but that's it. Once you go into the world of custom ROMs this phone takes a major dive to nowhere :/
And honestly...ialthough I will keep trying I don't think I'll personally ever figure out the ril/mic issue...but since we got h8rift now I think we may stand a fighting chance...he is a real dev, I'm just a contributor...hence our titles
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Yeah they can make some beautiful looking phones with excellent build quality but sense hasn't aged well and every post sensation device has been a lot less developer friendly. I almost think they feel insulted that anyone wouldn't want to use sense and feel like their phones are perfect already.
But the one x, one x+, and DROID DNA are all gorgeous looking. Hell really so is our phone. Make no mistake their phones are awesome its just the software that blows.
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the droid 4 is not avaiable outside of the USA, you have to buy it e.g. via ebay.
but pay attention, the phone may not work directly in your country / with your provider, so you'd have to GSM-patch it, but there are some good explanations here.

These phones suck anyway...save your money. Major software issues, locked boot loader.
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JayH1980 said:
These phones suck anyway...save your money. Major software issues, locked boot loader.
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JayH, then why do you post in this forum? If you don't like it, don't buy it.
The phone is definitely great if you can handle it, not the best and the newest, but it has the most awesome physical keyboard I ever used, and the support for the roms getting built is also very good. Thanks to safestrap, the locked bootloader isn't a downer. (at this point: THANK YOU HASHCODE).

There are good stable ROMs for this phone. Eclipse ICS + olegfusion's GSM patch or Olegfusion's version of the stock 217 ROM are the ones to go for if you want it to just work. The ports of Cyanogenmod etc. aren't quite there yet, though they are getting close.
There's also one in the dev section now that appears to be stock but with additional languages including Italian.
But yes you'll be needing to buy one from the USA. I got mine from Devices Now and would happily recommend them, especially since they will ship you the phone already upgraded to ICS which takes out most of the work of making it work on GSM.

I posted because I own one of these phones sadly... Hash has done a great job but you have to use up valuable memory to load custom roms due to the locked boot loader. I came from an HTC Evo 3D(sprint) to this phone and the HTC was far superior.
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JayH1980 said:
I posted because I own one of these phones sadly... Hash has done a great job but you have to use up valuable memory to load custom roms due to the locked boot loader. I came from an HTC Evo 3D(sprint) to this phone and the HTC was far superior.
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well, some people like it, some people dont.
I came from a Galaxy Note, but I was willing to take the burden of going to a lower screen resolution because of the very nice hardware keyboard.
I had the HTC Desire Z ( / G2) before my note and I'm very sad the leading manufacturers haven't found a way to make a good phone (maybe not as thin as others, but less bulky) with a full keyboard.