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I don't know if you guys saw the news but I was looking forward to AT&T adding family data plans in hopes I'd save some cash. Well they announced them today and it's a nightmare. Currently I'm paying $50 for 2 gigs per line, total 4. Under AT&Ts new plan I'd have to pay $85 a month for 1 gig! They aren't making you switch but still wtf?
I'm sick of carriers and carrier phones. I love my vivid but can't deny the fact that with the new features of ICS came new bugs, and it's looking like we're left for dead. The Vivid is hitting eol status on some carriers, and it came out after the Google flagship! And I hate seeing that ugly at&t logo. Freaking ruining the looks of my phone pasted dead center on the bottom of the front. And they lock these phones down so much that hacking them is getting harder to impossible! A couple years ago CyanogenMod was a safe bet but due to ril issues we sure don't have that option.
Updates are only going to get worse. I'm at the point now where if it doesn't have a Nexus in the brand name I can't recommend it. Android phones are slowly but surely becoming the new feature phones. And every device I've had, updates brought new issues with them and the carriers never released any updates to fix those issues. You shouldn't have to root your phone to take care of them!
So for the half assed treatment we get for buying the carrier phones what do we get in return from them? Higher rates with excuses. They claim "due to the high costs of today's smartphone" ah save it! My old Samsung Eternity dumb phone was $450 off contract, a Galaxy Nexus is $350 so how do smartphone costs have anything do do with their nickle and diming? Why does my insurance deductible cost $120 now when my old eternity was only $50 and costs the same amount?
But you know what? When your contract is up or if you own your own phone you don't save anything. So how do smartphone costs have anything to do then? I should get a discount if I choose to not subsidize my phone but nope that's not how they roll.
I don't plan on getting rid of this phone anytime but I may after the next Nexus is announced. I'll see how I like it then. At any rate I'll continue to be an AT&T customer until March of 2014 and then at that point I'll be taking whatever phone I have to a no contract low cost option. I'm sick of carriers and sick of their phones too.
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I used a non-carrier phone for the last year, as well as a carrier-based phone. I had planned to switch to virgin mobile, and bought an LG smartphone. I set it up with Google Voice and Groove IP for calling, rooted it with no worries, loaded it up with free apps and the latest ROMs. It did a great job with email, texting, internet, all the same stuff we do on our Vivids. The only down side was the occasional lack of WiFi. If WiFi is e easy to get to, it is a nice way to go. I got a kick out of showing people my android phone running ice cream sandwich and telling them I paid 0 per month.
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cmerlyn said:
I used a non-carrier phone for the last year, as well as a carrier-based phone. I had planned to switch to virgin mobile, and bought an LG smartphone. I set it up with Google Voice and Groove IP for calling, rooted it with no worries, loaded it up with free apps and the latest ROMs. It did a great job with email, texting, internet, all the same stuff we do on our Vivids. The only down side was the occasional lack of WiFi. If WiFi is e easy to get to, it is a nice way to go. I got a kick out of showing people my android phone running ice cream sandwich and telling them I paid 0 per month.
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Ha I know a guy that uses an old iphone 3g as a wifi only phone. What you do is get a portable wifi hotspot, it's what $25 a month? Keep that in your pocket and you can use wifi for everything! There was a write up on lifehacker back in the day about making a poor man's iphone with a portable wifi hotspot and an ipod touch lol.
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BTW I'm not ripping on the vivid so much as the carrier. I like my phone but I almost regret it just because I'm financially obligated to at&t till 2015 now. I really feel like for a measly 4 gigs on 2 lines. I'm already paying too much and I was hoping with maybe a little relief with shared plans and they totally blow. I really don't get how it's "shared" with a per line fee. Total lunacy! You'd have to be insane to switch.
The phone I don't regret, the upgrade that required 2 more years of service I regret if that makes sense.
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T Mobile. $60 dollars a month, no contract. Includes Unlimited talk and text with 2GB of data. $70 is unlimited talk, text and 5GB and its much better than AT&T. I made the switch and haven't had a dropped call since.
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I'm currently running H20 wireless 60$ dollars a month unlimited talk and text but just with 2g of data it connects on att towers.
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Yeah I think I'll look into straight Talk and t mobile. Hell without the contract, and an unlocked nexus that works on all gsm bands you can go wherever you want
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Unlocked nexus I would get on T-Mobile.Ran it on the vivid just get edge other than that I would be on T-Mobile lol
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Unlocked nexus I would get on T-Mobile.Ran it on the vivid just get edge other than that I would be on T-Mobile lol
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Yeah the nexus has T-mobile and AT&T bands for fake 4G, thats what sucks about carrier phones lol. you really can't take them anywhere else. AT&T and T-mobile phones are interchangeable except for the 3G bands, thats pretty much the main difference. So if you get a T-mobile phone it won't work on AT&T's 3G network, and AT&T's 3G phones won't work on T-mobile's 3G network.
I remember the Nexus one Google actually made 2 versions of it because of the bands, but the Galaxy nexus has all GSM bands, which is nice
I work at a junior college with two campuses. One of them is kind of up in the hills, and the *only* signal they get is AT&T, so I am pretty much stuck with that until my job changes. I've been paying about $70/month for two dumb phones, just upped my bill by $30 (minus my discount) for the Vivid. I'm not complaining, but my daughter is moving out and wants to bail on AT&T entirely, probably go Virgin Mobile no contract. That is still the cheapest I have found.
I work at a junior college with two campuses. One of them is kind of up in the hills, and the *only* signal they get is AT&T, so I am pretty much stuck with that until my job changes. I've been paying about $70/month for two dumb phones, just upped my bill by $30 (minus my discount) for the Vivid. I'm not complaining, but my daughter is moving out and wants to bail on AT&T entirely, probably go Virgin Mobile no contract. That is still the cheapest I have found.
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Yeah that's typical of college campuses. I remember my brother had to get Verizon when he went to ball state because no other carrier could get a signal there. My issue with virgin is they run on Sprints network which is cdma and with cdma you pretty much are buying a phone that only works on one network.
Straight Talk seems like the best deal from what I've seen because you basically can get any carriers service without going through the carrier. The Android phones they sell run on sprints network but many people on xda have bought unlocked nexuses and basically gotten service through AT&T without the at&t hassle
See only tmobile does it right in that if you own your phone you save money. If subsiding the phones really are costing at&t and Verizon that much then both should offer discounts or better plans for those who have their own phones and don't opt to bite on early upgrades etc.
Either way I'm stuck with at&t till March of 2014 so I went ahead and grabbed the 3 gig data plan before it goes away in August. Me and my wife were both on the 2 gigs for $25 each plan. In February they killed that plan off in favor of a 3 gig for $30 plan. I kept both our plans at the time as I hadn't yet discovered Google Music and had a hard time even using a gig but now with slacker and Google I'm having to constantly monitor my data and still find myself rationing the last few days of my billing cycle with only 250 megs remaining. The extra gig is just enough really to not have to worry about it. Figure get it now before they do away with it in august!
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I'm selling my Vivid. I've only had it two months, but I need the cash to finance new Galaxy Nexus I got this week. The Nexus is wide open to development and has a thriving (mostly positive) community. AT&T really hobbled the Vivid, which could have been so much more. Whether that's the reason for the negativity surrounding this phone, I don't know, but I don't see myself going back to a carrier phone again.
I like HTC phones, though. I wish it was somehow possible to magically merge the Nexus guts with the Vivid's case and screen. Maybe someday HTC will make a Nexus for Google.
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I'm selling my Vivid. I've only had it two months, but I need the cash to finance new Galaxy Nexus I got this week. The Nexus is wide open to development and has a thriving (mostly positive) community. AT&T really hobbled the Vivid, which could have been so much more. Whether that's the reason for the negativity surrounding this phone, I don't know, but I don't see myself going back to a carrier phone again.
I like HTC phones, though. I wish it was somehow possible to magically merge the Nexus guts with the Vivid's case and screen. Maybe someday HTC will make a Nexus for Google.
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Yeah I do think all the security hurdles cause mysterious issues in roms, then the average xda member gets mad at the developers for not fixing the issues, then the developer snaps back, then mods get involved and the developer gets banned, then the members are like wtf, they get mad back and next thing you know the whole community is in disarray!
At least that's my thoughts.
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I actually wanted a nexus. I was hoping at&t would announce it on contract and I got sick of waiting. Me and my wife were both tired of our lagtivates, and I talked to at&t about early upgrades and got me and my wife both Vivid's. And I swear right after my 30 days Google announced the nexus for 400 bucks on the play store. The word I said when I saw the article started with f and was 4 letters long.
That being said I don't hate the phone its fast, and has a kick ass camera but I also thought I wouldn't be interested in flashing custom roms if I had a nice enough phone. No other way to sum it up than saying this is not a developers phone and in those regards I do regret it a bit, however if I really wanted to get a nexus, well a vivid is worth more than a Captivate ebay anyway.
Other than battery life I got no complaints
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I buy the phones and just use wifi. And I have a free phone for calls only. Bottom line you dont need data to use android. Just wondering how long that will last before they make it mandatory to have a data plan. To make people like me pay for service.?
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Lol carriers. Get a Straight Talk AT&T Sim. $45/month for unlimited talk, text, and 2gb data, no contract. Beats the piss out of AT&T, H2O, and every other carrier and MVNO out there. QFT
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I buy the phones and just use wifi. And I have a free phone for calls only. Bottom line you dont need data to use android. Just wondering how long that will last before they make it mandatory to have a data plan. To make people like me pay for service.?
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You must be on an olllld contract. On newer plans, if they discover you have a smartphone on a "dumb phone" plan, they'll "upgrade" you into the most expensive data plan. AT&T did that to my wife when I dropped her SIM into an old iPhone. She was happy to use it as Wi-Fi only, but got a text saying they discovered the change and were changing her plan.
I fought with all four carriers about this. None of them will sell you a smartphone anymore without forcing you into a data plan. They claim that people were buying smartphones without data plans, and then complaining when they got charged for using data. Jerks.
The only thing I like about buying phones on carrier is that they are piss cheap, and I have trouble justifying 4x the cost for a phone from overseas.
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Lol carriers. Get a Straight Talk AT&T Sim. $45/month for unlimited talk, text, and 2gb data, no contract. Beats the piss out of AT&T, H2O, and every other carrier and MVNO out there. QFT
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Actually, ST's data is unlimited, not 2GB, for that price.
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I think carriers subsiding days are numbered honestly, largely thanks to Google and the cheap tablet wars, as cell phone hardware is getting cheap and then Verizon wants to sell you a locked down Motorola that takes a year to get an update for $300 on contract, but you can get a nexus, have your updates instantly and only pay $50 more! It's not just the nexus that's cheap either, that new sexy Motorola Atrix HD is only $450 no commitment. I mean if you absolutely have to have a gs3 or one x yeah subsiding is your best bet but there are quickly becoming a alot of good phones for $350 to $500.
I'm ready for it to end. If subsiding ends and people start wanting to hold on to their phones, manufacturers will make less phones, and support them better. I can't fault any manufacturer right now for not having jelly bean as without source they can't do anything, but 6 months to a year is a bit much and to stop supporting a phone like ours when it's only been out like 8 months, but I'm tied to it for at least 18 months, well that's just lunacy!
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to stop supporting a phone like ours when it's only been out like 8 months, but I'm tied to it for at least 18 months, well that's just lunacy!
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I find it ridiculous how a lot of the phones are made to barely even last through 6 months of light use, and you end up having to 1) Cheat the company out of a replacement. or 2) Pay for another phone without the contract discount, and still be stuck with that company. Straight Talk looks really really appealing, I've been dying for a good enough reason to sell my Vivid, and go Galaxy Nexus and being able to switch from at&t to a cheaper/better alternative whenever I want without buying a new phone would be great.
I can't take it. After getting spoiled by having a Galaxy Nexus for just over a few weeks- I find myself really wanting the Nexus 4 but since Verizon wants to go all Fascist about what gets on their precious network- all of us Verizon users are all stuck out in the cold.
Does anyone actually think that maybe there's enough demand for the Nexus 4 on Verizon's network that they might actually listen and change a policy or two so that they'll work with Google to get it?
Not a chance. Google learned their lesson with the horrible CDMA carriers.
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Not a chance. Google learned their lesson with the horrible CDMA carriers.
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This. It's not up to Verizon.
Just switch to T-Mobile if you're in a good area, it's fast enough
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This. It's not up to Verizon.
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Sure it is. Google won't deal with them because of the way they treat their network. I blame Verizon, not Google. And if Verizon sees it's going to hit them in the pocketbook, then that's how change is made.
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Just switch to T-Mobile if you're in a good area, it's fast enough
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I'm not. Verizon has the best coverage in this area. And I'm on a corporate plan.
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Sure it is. Google won't deal with them because of the way they treat their network. I blame Verizon, not Google. And if Verizon sees it's going to hit them in the pocketbook, then that's how change is made.
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Definitely not up to Verizon! When Google says they'll make a CDMA version, THEN its up to Verizon....Google is not making one...yet at least
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Definitely not up to Verizon! When Google says they'll make a CDMA version, THEN its up to Verizon....Google is not making one...yet at least
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Okay- so answer this, WHY did Google not want to make a CDMA version?
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Okay- so answer this, WHY did Google not want to make a CDMA version?
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Because CDMA sucks?
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Okay- so answer this, WHY did Google not want to make a CDMA version?
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Because CDMA technology isn't used in most of the world. It also costs more in licensing out the modems and radio technology. Google wanted to make the Nexus 4 a cheap, unified device. Putting it on a CDMA network would cost them more money if they wanted to keep this idea in play.
They aren't going to make a model for CDMA because 95% of the world uses GSM.
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Because CDMA sucks?
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And it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Verizon went Nazi and won't release timely updates to Android without extensive approval?
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And it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Verizon went Nazi and won't release timely updates to Android without extensive approval?
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The issue isn't Verizon not updating the device. Google could care less. It's about paying more money to get a device to run on an obsolete network. Read my previous post.
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And it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Verizon went Nazi and won't release timely updates to Android without extensive approval?
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That has something to do with it. Only apple gets away with that stiff it seems.
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The issue isn't Verizon not updating the device. Google could care less. It's about paying more money to get a device to run on an obsolete network. Read my previous post.
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Cute. So in other words- no Nexus 4 because Google could also care less about us Verizon folks using it or not.
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Okay- so answer this, WHY did Google not want to make a CDMA version?
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CDMA is a DEAD technology! Future is GSM!
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Cute. So in other words- no Nexus 4 because Google could also care less about us Verizon folks using it or not.
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I do not see how in anyway my response could be deemed "cute", but whatever.
And I said it's because Google doesn't want to be losing money on a device. The Nexus 4 is already DIRT cheap. Getting the proprietary CDMA radios licensed out for it would cost this thing called MONEY.
I'm on Verizon myself, but enjoy my Nexus 4 on T-Mobile. Stop your whining and get it on another carrier if you want it so bad.
If Google were to look at it from an American standpoint, yes putting it on our CDMA carriers would be logical as they have the largest consumer base, but they aren't. They are looking at it at a Global standpoint. We're one of the only countries that uses CDMA technology (yes there is a few small carriers here and there outside, but that's it). It makes MORE SENSE to put a device on a global standard format than one just for our carriers. The Nexus 4 was designed to be a cheap, fast, and universal device.
This is also the reason why the Nexus doesn't have full 4G LTE Support (Even though it can be tricked into reading 4G LTE rigidly with a MOD).
Licencing fees.
Either get a Nexus or Don't. Verizon can't do anything about a GSM device coming onto their network unless they were to redevelop it themselves, which in that case they probably would NOT sell it for $300.
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I do not see how in anyway my response could be deemed "cute", but whatever.
And I said it's because Google doesn't want to be losing money on a device. The Nexus 4 is already DIRT cheap. Getting the proprietary CDMA radios licensed out for it would cost this thing called MONEY.
I'm on Verizon myself, but enjoy my Nexus 4 on T-Mobile. Stop your whining and get it on another carrier if you want it so bad.
If Google were to look at it from an American standpoint, yes putting it on our CDMA carriers would be logical as they have the largest consumer base, but they aren't. They are looking at it at a Global standpoint. We're one of the only countries that uses CDMA technology (yes there is a few small carriers here and there outside, but that's it). It makes MORE SENSE to put a device on a global standard format than one just for our carriers. The Nexus 4 was designed to be a cheap, fast, and universal device.
This is also the reason why the Nexus doesn't have full 4G LTE Support (Even though it can be tricked into reading 4G LTE rigidly with a MOD).
Licencing fees.
Either get a Nexus or Don't. Verizon can't do anything about a GSM device coming onto their network unless they were to redevelop it themselves, which in that case they probably would NOT sell it for $300.
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Right. I got that from your first post. The "cute" was sarcastic.Guess I'll stick with Samsung for now.
And just where was I whining?
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Right. I got that from your first post. The "cute" was sarcastic.Guess I'll stick with Samsung for now.
And just where was I whining?
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Reiterating your belief that Verizon has control over a GSM device when people have told you they DON'T indicates whining to me.
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Reiterating your belief that Verizon has control over a GSM device when people have told you they DON'T indicates whining to me.
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No. Whining would be "But I reeeeaaaallllly waaaaaaannnnt iiiiittt! Why is Google so meeeeaaaann?"
I honestly had heard that Google stopped working with Verizon due to Verizon's policies about locking down phones on their network. They don't release updates in a timely manner at all. Hell even the GNEX still hasn't gotten 4.2.x from them. If you're not on a custom ROM, you're on 4.1.2 right now.
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No. Whining would be "But I reeeeaaaallllly waaaaaaannnnt iiiiittt! Why is Google so meeeeaaaann?"
I honestly had heard that Google stopped working with Verizon due to Verizon's policies about locking down phones on their network. They don't release updates in a timely manner at all. Hell even the GNEX still hasn't gotten 4.2.x from them. If you're not on a custom ROM, you're on 4.1.2 right now.
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If you really really want it that much, you'll switch to T-Mobile/AT&T and get one. Or even better, get yourself a straight talk sim card and no commitment, its only 45 bucks a month.
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This is a heads up so take it as you may.
I just came from T-Mobile and one of the reps told me they had a really big meeting recently and T-Mobile is planning on retiring their unlimited data.
Signs that this might be true:
1: T-Mobile officially getting iPhone 5. We all know this means a flock of isheeps heading to T-Mobile for unlimited data and iPhone
2: LTE network currently rolling out. T-Mobile iPhone 5 will probably support LTE. So who really thinks you'd have unlimited LTE for around $70? Unheard of.
3: T-Mobile merging with metro pcs aiming to pass at&t as number 2 carrier. We all know the bigger a phone company gets, the less ****s they give about their customers.
4: all this new "unCarrier" crap they're dropping all has data of 2gb, 5gb and highest being 12gb.
I'm thinking this is all gonna happen either when the iPhone 5 is sent to T-Mobile or when their LTE network is solid enough across the boards. Let's look at Verizon when they got rid of their unlimited data and how LTE was spread almost instantly. But on the bright side, I believe from an article that I came across, they'll get rid of it and go back to throttling when LTE is out. What that means is when you go past your data allowance on LTE network, you get throttled down to 4g instead of edge/2g/3g.
Once again, this is all stuff I figure is gonna happen from all the recent changes going on. Feel free to comment your opinions and thoughts
Isn't that what they're doing now? Their plans just throttle you after a certain data amount, except the $70 unlimited everything(no throttling) plan.
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my confusion comes from when our FW was updated, our LTE radios got turned off.. - can anyone confirm this ?
so now T-Mobile is rolling out LTE, so where does that leave us ?
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my confusion comes from when our FW was updated, our LTE radios got turned off.. - can anyone confirm this ?
so now T-Mobile is rolling out LTE, so where does that leave us ?
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We were never suppose to have lte be on
Our phones. It never went for FCC certification for lte.
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They must be retarded to get rid of unlimited data
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nighthawk626 said:
This is a heads up so take it as you may.
I just came from T-Mobile and one of the reps told me they had a really big meeting recently and T-Mobile is planning on retiring their unlimited data.
Signs that this might be true:
1: T-Mobile officially getting iPhone 5. We all know this means a flock of isheeps heading to T-Mobile for unlimited data and iPhone
2: LTE network currently rolling out. T-Mobile iPhone 5 will probably support LTE. So who really thinks you'd have unlimited LTE for around $70? Unheard of.
3: T-Mobile merging with metro pcs aiming to pass at&t as number 2 carrier. We all know the bigger a phone company gets, the less ****s they give about their customers.
4: all this new "unCarrier" crap they're dropping all has data of 2gb, 5gb and highest being 12gb.
I'm thinking this is all gonna happen either when the iPhone 5 is sent to T-Mobile or when their LTE network is solid enough across the boards. Let's look at Verizon when they got rid of their unlimited data and how LTE was spread almost instantly. But on the bright side, I believe from an article that I came across, they'll get rid of it and go back to throttling when LTE is out. What that means is when you go past your data allowance on LTE network, you get throttled down to 4g instead of edge/2g/3g.
Once again, this is all stuff I figure is gonna happen from all the recent changes going on. Feel free to comment your opinions and thoughts
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This won't be true for the foreseeable future since their new marketing campaign is centered around the option of unlimited data. Remember LTE is a more efficient use of spectrum so it can handle a larger load than other network types. They've also probably done their research on what the average consumer uses in data so they priced their unlimited plan based on the law of averages.
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nighthawk626 said:
This is a heads up so take it as you may.
I just came from T-Mobile and one of the reps told me they had a really big meeting recently and T-Mobile is planning on retiring their unlimited data.
Signs that this might be true:
1: T-Mobile officially getting iPhone 5. We all know this means a flock of isheeps heading to T-Mobile for unlimited data and iPhone
2: LTE network currently rolling out. T-Mobile iPhone 5 will probably support LTE. So who really thinks you'd have unlimited LTE for around $70? Unheard of.
3: T-Mobile merging with metro pcs aiming to pass at&t as number 2 carrier. We all know the bigger a phone company gets, the less ****s they give about their customers.
4: all this new "unCarrier" crap they're dropping all has data of 2gb, 5gb and highest being 12gb.
I'm thinking this is all gonna happen either when the iPhone 5 is sent to T-Mobile or when their LTE network is solid enough across the boards. Let's look at Verizon when they got rid of their unlimited data and how LTE was spread almost instantly. But on the bright side, I believe from an article that I came across, they'll get rid of it and go back to throttling when LTE is out. What that means is when you go past your data allowance on LTE network, you get throttled down to 4g instead of edge/2g/3g.
Once again, this is all stuff I figure is gonna happen from all the recent changes going on. Feel free to comment your opinions and thoughts
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Are you a writer for androidandme?
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pwc realtor said:
This won't be true for the foreseeable future since their new marketing campaign is centered around the option of unlimited data. Remember LTE is a more efficient use of spectrum so it can handle a larger load than other network types. They've also probably done their research on what the average consumer uses in data so they priced their unlimited plan based on the law of averages.
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This ^ and I work for T-Mobile and they most definitely are not going to be removing unlimited data lol stop trying to spread silly rumors.
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This isn't really anything to do with the Nexus 4, right?
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Verizon dropped unlimited data plans after it lost the right to block tethering apps in the Android market.
http://lifehacker.com/5933152/the-right-to-tether-what-the-verizonfcc-settlement-means-to-you
T-Mobile already bans tethering on it's unlimited plan, but allows it on metered plans.
They just don't want to end up competing with home broadband providers. Why pay for FIOS, when you can tether LTE?
what? does it make sense to remove unlimited data after releasing new plans this week? thats a marketing and pr nightmare.
thread needs to be closed
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T-Mobile unlimited data isn't going anywhere. They just spent a fortune on their network in all aspects. Now GTFO!
I work for tmobile and I can tell you that unlimited data is here to stay
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Lol you all have your opinions. I'm pretty sure everyone on Verizon felt the same way thinking LTE meant unlimited data for more people. Just remember, before the "no cap" commercials, T-Mobile has always been unlimited. Its still gonna be unlimited to a point where you pass a certain usage. But hell, let's all wait and see
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Oh and just because you work for T-Mobile doesn't mean you know ****. I know a lot of idiots that work at T-Mobile that I have to explain stuff to majority of the time. To some people its just a job
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Oh and just because you work for T-Mobile doesn't mean you know ****. I know a lot of idiots that work at T-Mobile that I have to explain stuff to majority of the time. To some people its just a job
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Take a chill pill
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Oh and just because you work for T-Mobile doesn't mean you know ****. I know a lot of idiots that work at T-Mobile that I have to explain stuff to majority of the time. To some people its just a job
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You're no more credible than anyone else here, bud. If anything, you're less credible for posting a RUMOR (From a rep no less. Irony much?) that holds very little water considering how T-Mobile is very proud of being one of the only carriers to offer truly unlimited data. All you have done is create a flame topic for which you should be thrown in that fire. Don't tell people to comment their thoughts and opinions if you can't handle it.
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Yes u are true.......
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Does anyone really need more than 12 GB a month?
OP using no evidence to back his claim. OP is an idiot lock thread
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Please use this thread to discus both upgrading and/or other devices in this thread, be respectful always. Thanks
Naddict said:
Please use this thread to discus both upgrading and/or other devices in this thread, be respectful always. Thanks
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But we already have an off topic thread >_>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2319960&highlight=off+topic :good:
Coming from this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446195
Just stopped in to sprint store and they said the had no clue what this was and nothing like that would be coming to sprint.sprint always seems to be the last to know anything..plus the last to get anything new in....
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In case you didn't know, Sprint store employees are NOT allowed to tell customers about upcoming events or promotions.
Trust me, they do know about such things.
I know this because a sprint store employee told me that they do know about upcoming promotional events.
ObrienDave said:
Coming from this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446195
In case you didn't know, Sprint store employees are NOT allowed to tell customers about upcoming events or promotions.
Trust me, they do know about such things.
I know this because a sprint store employee told me that they do know about upcoming promotional events.
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Especially since most times they have to be trained on certain devices and promotions..
Nexus 5 will be sprint compatible.... we will find out in a few weeks!
sure is im getting my nexus 5 in 2-3 day!!! its on its way to my now!! ill miss my s4 but hello nexus 5!! soooo much more development.. perfect phone for me seeing im a crack flasher.. there will be so many rims and kernels... heaven!!!
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sure is im getting my nexus 5 in 2-3 day!!! its on its way to my now!! ill miss my s4 but hello nexus 5!! soooo much more development.. perfect phone for me seeing im a crack flasher.. there will be so many rims and kernels... heaven!!!
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I'm not gonna ruin the Nexus 5, by putting it on Sprints network. Hello T-Mobile!
I work at Sprint and I play with all the new devices when they launch. First impression of the Nexus was it felt cheap. And the fact that it's made by LG this time just backs up the why the quality somewhat trash. The obnoxious circle phone speaker in the front was hideous. I thought it was a front facing speaker like HTC's One but it was an in call speaker. It looked like a knock off of all the phones that are out.
I did enjoy playing with the camera. A lot of new stuff that I want sure how to use yet but first impression was that the camera would be 1 of the key selling points for the phone. I had mixed feelings about the gigantic app icons but like I said it was my first impression so they could grow on me.
The feel of the phone in terms of performance wasn't bad. My GS4 is smoother with scrolling but I am stock rooted with stock kernel and debloated so Im pretty sure once this phone is too then it will be smooth as well. I did like how apps would open very quickly. Not much faster than my GS4 but was noticeable.
Honestly the phones performance isn't something to debate about because it is very resposnsive. And the Google Now feature is dope as well, but the feel and look of the phone just felt cheap like it was made from recycled parts or something. Just my 2 cents. The phone is a decent LG quality phone. If you like LG then go for it.
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imneveral0ne said:
I'm not gonna ruin the Nexus 5, by putting it on Sprints network. Hello T-Mobile!
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TMobile doesn't have real LTE....
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TMobile doesn't have real LTE....
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Neither does Sprint. How is something "real" if it doesn't tangibly exist in any measurable form in most places.
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Neither does Sprint. How is something "real" if it doesn't tangibly exist in any measurable form in most places.
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TMobile has 3G HSPA + which isn't actually any form of 4G but they advertise it as that. Your LTE capable phone isn't even on a real 4G or 4G LTE network.
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TMobile has 3G HSPA + which isn't actually any form of 4G but they advertise it as that. Your LTE capable phone isn't even on a real 4G or 4G LTE network.
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So I had been toying with the idea of going from S4 -> N5, and went to the sprint store to play with N5. It does feel snappy. Just like when I install a fresh new rom on S4. Though Google Now fc on me on the N5.
Next I loaded up the same web page on both devices and noted that the page pan was not that significantly different.
Not convinced quite yet, but I may change my mind later. Still waiting for the ipad air to arrive which would keep me entertained for a while.
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Neither does Sprint. How is something "real" if it doesn't tangibly exist in any measurable form in most places.
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Because it is still being launched?
I feel like a lot of Sprint people expect Sprint to have LTE up in their back yard instantly. People always compare their LTE to Sprint. Verizon had a two year start on LTE deployment than Sprint since they chose to go with Wimax.
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TMobile doesn't have real LTE....
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T-Mobile absolutely has LTE. And theirs is at least 20 times faster than Sprint's LTE here. I'm on Sprint LTE at home, and I just got 124 kbps down and 300 up. That's actually pretty good for their LTE! And it's been launched here for a few months. I guess that's what you get when you launch LTE handsets before you even have an LTE network to use them on anywhere in the nation. Once it's turned on, there are thousands of handsets sucking down the bandwidth as soon as it's turned on. Would probably help if they weren't running each tower off of one single Comcast cable modem...
Obviously that last part isn't true. but they shouldn't be selling or having LTE service here, if 124 kbps is there idea of LTE.
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T-Mobile absolutely has LTE. And theirs is at least 20 times faster than Sprint's LTE here. I'm on Sprint LTE at home, and I just got 124 kbps down and 300 up. That's actually pretty good for their LTE! And it's been launched here for a few months. I guess that's what you get when you launch LTE handsets before you even have an LTE network to use them on anywhere in the nation. Once it's turned on, there are thousands of handsets sucking down the bandwidth as soon as it's turned on. Would probably help if they weren't running each tower off of one single Comcast cable modem...
Obviously that last part isn't true. but they shouldn't be selling or having LTE service here, if 124 kbps is there idea of LTE.
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Just an issue with that area. I consistently get 500kbps at my work, come home and get over 30mbps. The network is building, give it time.
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T-Mobile absolutely has LTE. And theirs is at least 20 times faster than Sprint's LTE here. I'm on Sprint LTE at home, and I just got 124 kbps down and 300 up. That's actually pretty good for their LTE! And it's been launched here for a few months. I guess that's what you get when you launch LTE handsets before you even have an LTE network to use them on anywhere in the nation. Once it's turned on, there are thousands of handsets sucking down the bandwidth as soon as it's turned on. Would probably help if they weren't running each tower off of one single Comcast cable modem...
Obviously that last part isn't true. but they shouldn't be selling or having LTE service here, if 124 kbps is there idea of LTE.
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Than LTE hasn't been officially riled out yet in your area.it well get better. I typically get between 15-30mbs down and 10-15mbs up on Sprint LTE and my area is only 75 percent rolled out. When I first started getting LTE in my area I would only get 1-2mbs down. Hang in there and it will get better. Also, all carriers sell their LTE phones before the network is built out.
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*Useless Complaint to Follow*
Why, oh WHY did Kies pull the mja update! *Sniff* My one play day a week I get and it's not there..
/complaint - Off to dev section I go..
problem solved !!
Wrong topic sorry
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So it sounds like a device bought from the play store or Motorola directly will work on VZW with a previously activated nano SIM...my question is what downsides are there to going this route versus waiting?
VoLTE will be a big deal when VZW devices are upgraded to it...will a non-VZW nexus be able to take that upgrade? I assume dev support for this device will be strong but I would be hesitant to rely on that for such a critical (simultaneous voice and data) upgrade.
People that are going this route have no VoLTE support.... Nor can they do voice and data simultaneously... I am leary on going this route bc i refuse to pay 650 and the phone be limited and not fully supported.
However i really think the wait will be longer than we expected. I doubt vzw releases the nexus 6 this year at all. They are pushing Droid Turbo units as much as possible for however long
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We have no way of knowing the deal on volte so to say those that buy it from google play won't get it is just silly. The carrier version will be identical to the versions bought on google play except for a small carrier partition for ringtones and custom boot animations (look at what att did). I'm pretty sure the n6 has simultaneous voice and data but I'll check with my friend to confirm.
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We have no way of knowing the deal on volte so to say those that buy it from google play won't get it is just silly. The carrier version will be identical to the versions bought on google play except for a small carrier partition for ringtones and custom boot animations (look at what att did). I'm pretty sure the n6 has simultaneous voice and data but I'll check with my friend to confirm.
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Users have already confirmed it does not....and Volte requires a feature provisioning
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Ah well that's a bit of a bummer. Doesn't necessarily mean that the one from Verizon will though
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Ah well that's a bit of a bummer. Doesn't necessarily mean that the one from Verizon will though
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Well thats the problem...when and how long are you willing to wait? The purpose of a nexus is too have lollipop and the newest version of android
By the time Vzw releases devices like note 4 and s5 and moto x will already have their versions of Lollipop....smh
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And that's my concern...VoLTE isn't a Google enhancement, its VZW only. If VZW never releases the N6 it will likely never support voice and data...and even of they do release it, I am worried the update will be VZW-device specific. Maybe it can be ported, but that's a big maybe.
Its torture waiting as i have purchased every nexus at launch.. And i cracked my Nexus 5 screen last week ....i check vzwsupport twitter page daily. They continue to say they have no news on the nexus 6
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Its torture waiting as i have purchased every nexus at launch.. And i cracked my Nexus 5 screen last week ....i check vzwsupport twitter page daily. They continue to say they have no news on the nexus 6
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Amigo, soonest I'd expect N6 sold via VZW is New Year's.
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Amigo, soonest I'd expect N6 sold via VZW is New Year's.
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I hope your right lol, knowing Vzw it wi be end Jan early Feb
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The device will be the same device that's on the play store or any carrier for that matter...your SIM will work...and if you lose your SIM, Verizon will give you a new one..you may need to cut it depending on what phone you currently have, but you don't have to worry about service...you can even add your Nexus on your account using the "bring my own device" page...if VOLTE requires software from Verizon, it will surely get added to the custom ROMS...its a Nexus after all...most customizable phone available.