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Just got my Kaiser, lovely boxing, lovely phone but I've had a little unpleasant surprise - I've entered SIM card while phone was already on. In result Kaiser have just crashed - I mean switched off itself. Anyone else noticed similar trouble? Does it mean there is still need to switch the phone off before changing SIMs?
Anyway, going to explore Kaiser.
its not a crash, its just what it does from what I have read, so i guess its just not "hot swapable"
y2whisper said:
its not a crash, its just what it does from what I have read, so i guess its just not "hot swapable"
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It seems like - switching off occurs in the exact moment of unlocking SIM card cover... Well, shame - SIM hotswapping would be really cool
SIM card hot swapping is really bad. I work at a Operator and you don't want to know what kind of network trouble this can bring.
I've also had the Kaiser for a couple weeks now, and yes, it is supposed to shut down when you open the SIM cover. It's just for your own protection, you can even break your SIM if you remove it while the device is on (and, has a electric current flowing to the SIM).
thats what many design work are done to prevent users from doing things dangerously. If you've noticed, that all phones SIM cards are hidden under the battery and/or blocked by the battery in one way or the other. That's to force user to shut down the phone before doing anything with it. I'm sure that's for the protection of the SIM and/or not making a mess on the telco system, which may heavily affect the phones popularity
Not true. Another HTC handset with easy access to SIM card slot locatyed under slide out keyboard:
HTC VOX
also:
HTC TOUCH - side access to SIM card
hanmin said:
thats what many design work are done to prevent users from doing things dangerously. If you've noticed, that all phones SIM cards are hidden under the battery and/or blocked by the battery in one way or the other. That's to force user to shut down the phone before doing anything with it. I'm sure that's for the protection of the SIM and/or not making a mess on the telco system, which may heavily affect the phones popularity
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eva_d said:
Just got my Kaiser, lovely boxing, lovely phone but I've had a little unpleasant surprise - I've entered SIM card while phone was already on. In result Kaiser have just crashed - I mean switched off itself. Anyone else noticed similar trouble? Does it mean there is still need to switch the phone off before changing SIMs?
Anyway, going to explore Kaiser.
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It's actually in the manual. Page 24 section 1.2
Always turn off your device before installing/replacing the USIM/SIM card and battery.
Cheers.
SecureGSM said:
Not true. Another HTC handset with easy access to SIM card slot locatyed under slide out keyboard:
HTC VOX
also:
HTC TOUCH - side access to SIM card
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Interesting.. I'd guess I'm at the old age. I did a bit of research, it seems that THERE ARE phones out there that can have hot-swap SIM. This is news. From Nokia N93 review
The hot-swap SIM slot is a very good solution, especially for users having more than one SIM. It allows you to exchange SIM cards without the necessity to switch off the phone and remove the battery. It is enough to switch phone in offline mode while changing card. At least it should work and it works on N90 just fine but on N93 with the current firmware version it is impossible to remove the SIM card even in offline mode because it causes prompt freezing.
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Redah said:
SIM card hot swapping is really bad. I work at a Operator and you don't want to know what kind of network trouble this can bring.
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Such as? Hotswapping SIM card from network's point of view looks exactly the same as removing battery without actually switching off the phone, as many people do. In such case network get no notification (IMSI detach) at all about switch off, and the only 'trouble' is network still 'thinks' that user is reachable until the next PLU (Periodic Location Update) or call attempt..
Well explained article on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSI_detach
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I've also had the Kaiser for a couple weeks now, and yes, it is supposed to shut down when you open the SIM cover. It's just for your own protection, you can even break your SIM if you remove it while the device is on (and, has a electric current flowing to the SIM).
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That's reasonable explanation. I have never got SIM card damaged, but I'd rather prefer not to experience it in future. In fact, my the very first SIM card I have *ever* had is already over 8 years old and still works perfect.
I have an LG Revolution, 12 days old, rooted.
LAst night i plugged in my phone and it would not charge, after trying several chargers, i decided to do a hard reset. I do the hard reset and now the Sim card is not being recognized. When i turn the phone on, it is waiting for activation, I can't get any further than that. I took my phone to the verizon store and they tested out my sim card in another phone and it worked fine. I can't unroot my phone because superoneclick can't recognize my phone, I think I need to turn on usb debugging and change it to "internet connection" but I can't access those options because the sim card activation screen is the only thing it lets me do.
Any thoughts?
Thanks for any help
had this issue once before and just had verizon replace the sim card. According to them its a known issue with teh 4g phones after doing a factory restore. Just don't let them mess around with your phone after they do the swap and they won't notice/care if its rooted.
The guy at the store i went to put my sim card into his phone and it worked fine, would it still be the sim card?
I got a brand new sim card and it still is not being recognized, any suggestions?
keep trying to activate it and make sure your in a 4g area.
The closest 4g area is like 40 minutes away from me, I wasn't near a 4g area when I first had it activated either?
I had the same problem with my wifes, I has to call and they did some sort if data reset from their end, and it worked.
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This worked for me. Take out SIM, power up and let it try to activate, put SIM back in and try it again.
I'm on my second Revo because of this issue. I did a factory restore and it wouldn't recognize the SIM. The Verizon store tried another card and ended up giving me a new phone. I've been very leery of doing another reset...
Patrick, thanks for the suggestion. Pulling the sim out and starting it and letting it try to activate, then shutting it off and putting the sim in. work for me, it got me to the "please wait while sim card is activate"
but my phone would just stay there forever and eventually tell me the sim was not supported on this device.
I called customer support, they told me they had to register that sim card number to my account. 2 minutes later i'm up and running!!!!
Thanks for everyones input.
Yes there's something really wrong with these phones. I'm on my third revo still having the boot up and sim issues. I might keep exchanging untill they give me a bionic.
I experienced this issue as will on my 1st Revo. They replaced the phone and declared it a 'bad' sim slot...no card would work.
My first factory reset ended up in several Sim cards being toast up at the VZW store. Turns out I had my phone on 3G only (to conserve battery). For this reason, I leave my phone on 4G Auto all the time, just in case.
rpatrick said:
This worked for me. Take out SIM, power up and let it try to activate, put SIM back in and try it again.
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Just had this happen to me. Followed these instructions and it worked like a charm! This is a great phone but there are so many little bugs that need correcting...
ufkal said:
My first factory reset ended up in several Sim cards being toast up at the VZW store. Turns out I had my phone on 3G only (to conserve battery). For this reason, I leave my phone on 4G Auto all the time, just in case.
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I have read about 5 threads where others had the same issues! I wanted to post a warning in the Dev threads but I'm afraid of being band.
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Just want to confirm that pulling the battery and SIM; placing the battery back in with out the SIM; trying to activate; pulling battery; putting both back in fixed my activation issue as well. Thank you very much.
zmhutchinson said:
I have read about 5 threads where others had the same issues! I wanted to post a warning in the Dev threads but I'm afraid of being band.
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The main thing is that if you have clockwork mod installed DO NOT wipe in the about phone area! Only wipe data IN clockwork. Also just for safety I keep the exitrecovery.zip in my sdcard if it does get stuck looping into cwm.
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The main thing is that if you have clockwork mod installed DO NOT wipe in the about phone area! Only wipe data IN clockwork. Also just for safety I keep the exitrecovery.zip in my sdcard if it does get stuck looping into cwm.
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Yeah I learned the exitrecovery.zip trick today too.
I am never going to use this as a cell phone. Is there a way to disable the cell phone part of it? Not physically, but by removing certain drivers? I know about airplane mode, just wondering if there were a different way.
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I am never going to use this as a cell phone. Is there a way to disable the cell phone part of it? Not physically, but by removing certain drivers? I know about airplane mode, just wondering if there were a different way.
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I think this is the best solution or if you remove the SIM.
If you want physicall you must remove the antenna.
dragosneagu95 said:
I think this is the best solution or if you remove the SIM.
If you want physicall you must remove the antenna.
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SIM? I didn't know sholes had a SIM. Where is it?
Drop out the battery(I think you know how).Then,you will see two places : one with the SD card and another with the SIM.If you will remove the SIM you will you will not be able to make calls.
dragosneagu95 said:
Drop out the battery(I think you know how).Then,you will see two places : one with the SD card and another with the SIM.If you will remove the SIM you will you will not be able to make calls.
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Nope. No such thing. This IS an OG (verizon) Droid 1 we are talking about. I see the SD card. There is nothing else that looks like it in the battery area.
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Nope. No such thing. This IS an OG (verizon) Droid 1 we are talking about. I see the SD card. There is nothing else that looks like it in the battery area.
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But if you don't have a SIM card in the phone you can't make calls.Or can you?Tell me more detailed youre problem.
Only GSM Milestones (sholes_umts) have SIM cards.
The Droid (sholes) is a CDMA device and therefore has no SIM card. The necessary information is stored on a chip soldered directly onto the motherboard.
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Nope. No such thing. This IS an OG (verizon) Droid 1 we are talking about. I see the SD card. There is nothing else that looks like it in the battery area.
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You can delete the CALL and SMS app from you ROM, if you have root access. But I can't see any reason to do that.
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You can delete the CALL and SMS app from you ROM, if you have root access. But I can't see any reason to do that.
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3 reasons I can thing of right a way.
More room for stuff you want to add to ROM.
Stop the annoying "Activate" screen from coming up all the time!!!!
Save some battery.
I'm unsure if my problem has to do with Verizon or if I need to run a factory reset or try other options. Here's my story:
As soon as the phone arrived today, I unlocked, rooted, and flashed TWRP. No sim was in at any point since I didn't have a nano sim to use for it.
I tried cutting my Galaxy Nexus micro sim into a nano sim (apparently this works for some people), but the N6 states "no sim card - no service" so I don't think it worked.
Went to a Verizon store and got a nano sim for 28 cents, but the clerk couldn't activate it or bind it to my account since Verizon doesn't have the N6 IMEI numbers in their database. He told me to call support. Support was actually helpful, somewhat knowledgeable at least, and tried to activate the sim card over the phone.
Apparently the sim is pending activation from the phone, but I'm still getting the "no sim card - no service" errors. Does anyone know if this error means that it can't connect to the network, or if the phone thinks the sim is physically missing? There seems to be only one way to add the sim to the little tray as far as I can tell (gold face up, matched corner).
Has anyone else had similar issues? Should I try reverting (unroot/stock recovery/etc)? I'm not sure what the best approach is to activate the sim as I'm uncertain if the issue is still with Verizon or the N6.
EDIT: Everything is working now. For those of you moving from a phone with a micro sim, all you need to do is:
1. Cut the micro card down to the size of a nano
2. Drop it in your nexus6
3. Make sure wifi is off if you've already run through the setup. This was my mistake!
4. Give it a few minutes and you'll see the mobile icon flash LTE
It may help if you change your mobile network settings to LTE preferred.
Same thing happened to me. Did you try spinning the sim card around? The notched corner didn't look so much like a notch by the time I was done trimming...
Larzzzz82 said:
Same thing happened to me. Did you try spinning the sim card around? The notched corner didn't look so much like a notch by the time I was done trimming...
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Interesting. I trimmed off all the white plastic on the left and right sides so that I can rotate it or even flip it over. Going to try a few permutations... nothing yet. That's all it took eh?
That's all it took for me. Everything works. Data, voice, sms,mms... Everything.:good:
Larzzzz82 said:
That's all it took for me. Everything works. Data, voice, sms,mms... Everything.:good:
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Still no dice. The gold face should be face up, right? I noticed that after a few minutes the error changes to "selected network unavailable", so maybe I'm putting it in right but now its just not being registered.
So far in my experience that message means you need to nuke and repave, including userdata.....YMMV
EDIT: Probably easier to get a new SIM from VZW, thats what I did
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So far in my experience that message means you need to nuke and repave, including userdata.....YMMV
EDIT: Probably easier to get a new SIM from VZW, thats what I did
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Thanks, I'll try a factory reset. I'm only running stock... can't imagine root or custom recovery would prevent the sim from being recognized. Perhaps when you click "skip" for the sim card part of the setup it can never be reconciled.
Factory reset didn't work either. Really irritating, it looks like the N6 that shipped from the play store came with android 5.0 instead of 5.0.0 or 5.0.1... possibly a development version from months ago?
I flashed the latest 5.0.1 factory images (boot, system, radio), then flashed TWRP, then did a factory reset to wipe data. At the setup prompt when I rebooted, it still says "insert sim card".
I'm not sure what else to try. If the sim card isn't activated I can't tell if that's why it wants me to insert a card, or if it physically thinks it is missing. I may need to order a nano sim to micro sim adapter, then put that in my old gnex and activate it that way, and finally move it over to the N6.
Does anyone have any other ideas or think I may have overlooked something?
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Factory reset didn't work either. Really irritating, it looks like the N6 that shipped from the play store came with android 5.0 instead of 5.0.0 or 5.0.1... possibly a development version from months ago?
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All of the stock shipped with 5.0 so far. Not 5.0.0. 5.0.1 update notification "should" arrive after initial bootup
Contacts screen side up. It took a while to get onto the network initially. .#.#4636#.#. On the dialer opens a testing menu. There is a drop down menu, middle of the phone info page. Mine is set to lte/cdma auto
Thanks, never knew about hidden dialer apps. I set mine to the same. It's been a few hours and still no connection, so I'm going to assume the fact that the sim isn't activated is what's causing the phone to believe it's not inserted. I really need another phone to test with... if the sim card can be activated or work on another device, and still doesn't work in the N6, then it'd be a hardware problem.
Also good to know 5.0 is standard.
Update: I tried using the cut micro sim again, but this time turned wifi off. Looks like cutting the micro sim worked after all. I'm somewhat recognized by the network, but the sim used no longer maps to my account, so I'm getting a verizon webpage stating "device error" and to call customer support. I think if I can get verizon to revert changes made on my account yesterday back to the gnex with my old sim that this will work.
Moral of the story - cutting micro sim cards will work, but turn off wifi when trying to test your sim!
I'll report back once this is finally resolved. Hopefully this helps someone else.
Got it working - just had to get a new micro sim for my gnex, re-activate that device, then I was able to cut it down to nano size and load it into my nexus6. With wifi off this time, everything worked, and it connected to the network.
I've updated the original post with instructions for anyone else who might be having this problem.
Hey guys , first of all sorry for my poor English
Im from Taiwan and was attracted by Droid turbo from Verizon
recently, I just got Droid turbo XT1254
it was confirmed that 4G SIM card in Taiwan could work on this phone
however , the first time i plugged my sim card into the phone and powered it on
it just stuck, couldnt input the passward of sim card pin
but the power button and volume button seem to be fine
here is the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7e_VnZLDS4
ive tried to fix it in ways
(1)
boot it on without SIM
same consequence, cant slide to unlock to the table
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with SIM card
go to fastboot mode and wait until it shut down
boot it on and the same consequence as well
(3)
without SIM card
go to fastboot mode and wait until it shut down
boot it on and it work!!!
slide to unlock and put in my SIM card
everything works
by the way
ive tried to wipe in recovery mode but remained the same
Is it the problem that i put in NON-Verizon SIM card?
BTW
software version
23.21.44
SU4TL-44
Thx for reading my post and sorry for my poor English again
MOTO Droid turbo is an awesome phone
so im no expert here but if you can put in the official VZW sim and see if that does anything if you can boot into the phone without the sim its a issue with that sim card if you have verizon id suggest calling them idk if you actually need the sim also if you can get into the phone then put the sim back in and you dont get that lock screen again go into settings >More>cellular networks and see if it allows you to change anything id look at preferred network type you have three options Global, LTE/CDMA and LTE/GSM/UMTS mine is on global so try that out and let me know worst case ill look into it for you you may need the unlock code for the phone or something i dont really know
well
i download the latest VRZand flash through mfastboot manaully
it works
All good
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