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apt-x supported?

Hey xda,
does the Galaxy S support "apt-x" (lossless codec for audio over bluetooth)?
If not, I heard that the Galaxy Tab 7.0 supports apt-x, is it portable to other Samsung Phones like S I, S II etc.?
Maybe supercurio got an idea

I'd like to know as well.

Which sound chip is better - Galaxy S4 vs One?

I have a pretty limited knowledge on this but from what I have read if both uses the Snapdragon 600, then the sound quality (with headphones) would be the same? Or would there be any differences which makes one better than the other?

Soundchip... whatever...
HTC One = AMP + Stereo Speakers !

I think the word ur looking for is DAC [Digital to analogue converter]..Samsung uses WOLFSON [one of the best]..Dont know about HTC but it must be great from what i am seeing.

LOL I have a one x and the sound with an audio mod that allows 96khz resampling is the best audio that i have heard yet. It beats my friends galaxy s3

cuyo11 said:
LOL I have a one x and the sound with an audio mod that allows 96khz resampling is the best audio that i have heard yet. It beats my friends galaxy s3
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I dont own a sg3 so I dont know if they have the wolfson DAC, if not that would be the main reason why. What audio mod are you using, acid or beats audio or something else? My personal opinion along with my buddies when comparing my note 2 against their phones is that the note 2 blows away the competition as long as I have voodoo sound support. Nothing can compare to that audio mod, I will personally slap anyone that things the beats audio mod or the beats audio headphones are actually good
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NA S4 vs One: The HTC One wins. They have the same DAC, but htc has an external Amp.
Int. S4 vs One: S4 probally wins, but no1 has tested yet. If it has a Wolfson DAC, S4 wins, but by a small margin I would assume.

cuyo11 said:
LOL I have a one x and the sound with an audio mod that allows 96khz resampling is the best audio that i have heard yet. It beats my friends galaxy s3
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Tegra 3 has a rubbish DAC
Maedhros said:
NA S4 vs One: The HTC One wins. They have the same DAC, but htc has an external Amp.
Int. S4 vs One: S4 probally wins, but no1 has tested yet. If it has a Wolfson DAC, S4 wins, but by a small margin I would assume.
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Generally, Wolfson > Qualcomm > Tegra. HTC One has qualcomm but I am interested to see what they have done with their "beats" stuff hardware wise

Beats is a stupid software mod which increases the trebble and bass..there are no real sound improvements in it. Marketing gimmick.

ethan3686 said:
Beats is a stupid software mod which increases the trebble and bass..there are no real sound improvements in it. Marketing gimmick.
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HTC have made an effort to provide good sound hardware (eg the speakers) so I wouldn't be surprised if we see some improvement over the One X. A dev who went to the launch event in the US told me that the sound through headphones was very impressive compared to his DNA

ethan3686 said:
Beats is a stupid software mod which increases the trebble and bass..there are no real sound improvements in it. Marketing gimmick.
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Normally I would agree with you 100% but in this case I think you are wrong. Beats sucks, but the audio for the One has been completely redesigned in-house and the drivers are made by HTC specifically for the in-house chip and made to interface with Beats.
But don't take my word for it; if any one is farmiliar with Myriam Joire (a.k.a tnkgrl) of Engadget you know she's a programmer and has a background in Audio, she knows here stuff better than 99% of the people here. On the latest mobile podcast (linked below, around 35 mins in) she talks about how its the by far the best audio you will get on any mobile device, period. She mentioned it was a league ahead of the iPhone/iPod, but no other devices were even mentioned. I'm not an audio file, but when I hear one make very bold statements like that, its quite impressive.
I would say the One wins by a long shot.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/14/engadget-mobile-podcast-173-03-14-13/

[Q] S4 active & Bluetooth APt-x

I recently purchase the At&t S4 active and a pairs of Sennheiser MM-550X,
Those of you who don't know apt-x is codec for bluetooth to keep the sound quality as the original (really close to) source sound files,
in compare to normal Bluetooth which downgrade sound quality to near 120Kbps.
SGS4 active supposed to support this but on the web there's so little information about it,
So.. I want to know how can i confirm Mine got the Apt-x? from what I heard some android version Not support this..
Does Acid audio engine support this?
Is anyone tried?
Thanks!

Questions and help issues go in Q&A and Help sections
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FNM

Also interested, how to make sure that APT-X is working on new 4.4 Kitkat stock ROM? Thx!

Sorry for bumping this thread.
I would also like to know if there is a possible way of seeing if APT-x is active.
From my experience, I don't seem to hear any difference in quality between my S4 and iPad, but the iPad does not support APT-x.
The quality sounds terrible compared to a wired connection, loosing fine detail present in a 320kbps track. It also sounds compressed as well.

[SPLIT THREAD] The first Soundmod for the Xperia Z5 : Project Desire

Hello I am PDesire and I want to show you the first Soundmod for the Xperia Z5
Project Desire
The Xperia Z5 have a Good DAC but with Project Desire, you can feel what the Singers feel, hear what they hear, enjoy what they enjoy
Project Desire have many Features like an improved DSEE-HX for better Audiophile feel or White Noise Killer, it's Ultra Clear and wonderful for your ears, you will hear what you never heard
Are you interested in it?
Then watch to our Original thread, follow the install Instructions, and enjoy Project Desire
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...dmod-project-desire-feel-dream-sound-t3130504
Enjoy Project Desire
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good mod thanks for shared.

when u say it has a good dac which dac does it have and do u know if the sony z5 premium also has a good dac and which one

hykhleif said:
when u say it has a good dac which dac does it have and do u know if the sony z5 premium also has a good dac and which one
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It use the S810 DAC with latest Snapdragon Hexagon DSP, the Z5 Premium have the same, the amplifier is a TFA98XX (Sadly no S-Master HX)

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It use the S810 DAC with latest Snapdragon Hexagon DSP, the Z5 Premium have the same, the amplifier is a TFA98XX (Sadly no S-Master HX)
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so is that supposed to be a good dac, compared to wolfson dac in note phones
and what is the s-master hx

hykhleif said:
so is that supposed to be a good dac, compared to wolfson dac in note phones
and what is the s-master hx
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Definitely is the Z5 DAC better than the Wolfson DAC
S-Master HX is an amplifier by Sony, it enchanting Hi-Res alot and it can upscaling Compressed files (like DSEE-HX)

can i ask please so does the sony z5 premium output 192/24bit without down sampling, in other words if i play 192/24bit will it be output as 192/24
can i ask how can one know that this dac is better than a wolfson dac,
over head-fi forum the people there trash the sound quality of the z5 premium comapred to lg v10

hykhleif said:
can i ask please so does the sony z5 premium output 192/24bit without down sampling, in other words if i play 192/24bit will it be output as 192/24
can i ask how can one know that this dac is better than a wolfson dac,
over head-fi forum the people there trash the sound quality of the z5 premium comapred to lg v10
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Yes it outputs 192kHz 24bit
And I know that Z5 DAC is better because first: DSEE-HX second: wolfson DAC can only output 96kHz 24bit third: the DSP is definitely better
And the LG V10 uses an higher DAC 384kHz 32bit but the CPU will be on full load if it play that, Sony Z5 would be keep cool and play that without any issues

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Yes it outputs 192kHz 24bit
And I know that Z5 DAC is better because first: DSEE-HX second: wolfson DAC can only output 96kHz 24bit third: the DSP is definitely better
And the LG V10 uses an higher DAC 384kHz 32bit but the CPU will be on full load if it play that, Sony Z5 would be keep cool and play that without any issues
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thanks so much, i believe if u mention that about lg v10 people will not like it in the head-fi.org site

burc ugur said:
good mod thanks for shared.
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I agree,very good

How to increase volume in stock z5

PDesire said:
Definitely is the Z5 DAC better than the Wolfson DAC
S-Master HX is an amplifier by Sony, it enchanting Hi-Res alot and it can upscaling Compressed files (like DSEE-HX)
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wow, what a bold statement

My audio settings seems the same, cant see any new.. if i access desire player, and go to sound setting its the same. How come no new customization options are visible. 3.5.61 first, then 40.v.m.l

Does Project Desire work on MM?

Speaker & Audio-Quality

How is the speaker audio-quality compared to something like HTC One devices?
Is the DAC & AMP somewhere near the quality of the HTC 10, LG V20 or Axon 7?
Regards Forsaked

I can only compare to the iPhone 6S.
The speaker of the P10 is a bit louder, but on the loudest setting it sounds a bit distorted or overdriven. When I set 2 steps down it sounds like the iPhone 6S in direct comparison. The loudest setting is good for ringtones and they sound really well, if you don't have songs like metal or trance as ringtone.
With headphones (Beyerdynamics DT-770) and some FLAC files I couldn't hear any differences.

Pocketnow made an audio review for the P10.
https://youtu.be/jBzEmOhfcSU

The loudness of headphone output is 1/3 of iphone 7, 40% quieter than Galaxy S7. Not very loud. Both Phonearena and GSMarena confirm this.

I can confirm that the sound in P10 is very nice in Bowers and Wilkins P5 jack.
If you run flacs and Hi-Res Audio its very nice. Blutooth in AAC is also nice.
The Sound in P10 is designed by Hardan Kardon and the DAC is made of Yamaha Commercial Audio
It is well enough loud, if you use the Huawei music app you must run DTS.
Its pros is rock, blues, vokal, acoustic, jazz, funk etc... The sound is egaging, dynamic, detailed and lively better than iphone 4S, and other mobiles ive tried. The phones strongest audio card is something called SEPARATION, between instruments, that is simply outstanding. You hear details of what drum it is, clear vokal, and all the instruments is well placed in a room.
Classical sounds nice, but is not its strongest card, it could have more clarity and focused details..
If your are a Beats head, that damage your ears with hiphop, Skrillex and tekno at high volume, maybe your not satisfyed.
I cranked House of Pain Jump around in Poweramp, and that sounded nice.
HTC 10 should on the papers have better audio sound tho.

But I want to know if the Huawei P10 is ready with drivers to connect a Dac via USB for example Dragonfly.
I ask this because alot of other people wants to know the same.

Works with ESS chipset in the B&O modular for the LG G5.

I prefer to disable DTS. Nice sound but the volume is a little lover than Htc

I just want to give my opinion on this:
I have both the Axon 7 and the P10 Plus and I must say that output is better in the P10 Plus, and I don't understand why.
I don't know what kind of sorcery does DTS mode, but it pumps the sound in a really nice way.
When you disable DTS, Axon 7 sounds better in HiFi res.
Probably is because there is no way to use the AKM DAC on the Axon 7 with a proper equalization, so even when the sound is good, it can't be used along the Dolby Atmos feature. Dolby Atmos only kicks in when using the speakers, or if you want to use it with headphones, it will automatically change to Snapdragon DAC. So far there is no way to use Atmos and the AKM dac together.
I'm using Sony XBA-H1 which I find pretty decent earbuds to test this.
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Its Confirmed by Huawei that P10 use the latest Hi6403 soundchip (typical with Kirin960) that supports Hi-Rez
Its rumoured that Harman Kardon, and Yamaha Commercial Audio group has worked on the sound in P10

It's just to bad that the amplifier is to weak. It makes the volume lower than the competitors.

ClausG76 said:
It's just to bad that the amplifier is to weak. It makes the volume lower than the competitors.
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I don't know, but this P10 Plus sounds better than my Axon 7, and is supposed that Axon 7 is the best audio phone.
Activating DTS make everything more punchier and richier.

The Audio quality is great. But the low volume might be because of some EU regulations.

ClausG76 said:
The Audio quality is great. But the low volume might be because of some EU regulations.
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Problem is that we don't have a way to equalize the output using the high quality dog, because as long as we turn on Dolby Atmos, it changes to Qualcomm one.
Is a pity we don't have a stock or default equalizer besides Dolby Atmos, because is useless if we want the best quality out of the headphone jack.

I don't know if this trick or a simualy trick works
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/guide-increase-headset-volume-t3624236

ClausG76 said:
I don't know if this trick or a simualy trick works
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/guide-increase-headset-volume-t3624236
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Is not only about the volume, but more of the equalization, and no trick can help with that.

Galaxo60 said:
Is not only about the volume, but more of the equalization, and no trick can help with that.
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Poweramp?
Just hoping that beta testing is done soon for Hi rez audio version...
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Imnotdriving said:
But I want to know if the Huawei P10 is ready with drivers to connect a Dac via USB for example Dragonfly.
I ask this because alot of other people wants to know the same.
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Just connect and Play... I use a dragonfly Red, and It works fine

Have no problems with volume on my Sony 100 headphones jack and Poweramp or Sony music player Hi-rez
But sad not Poweramp has Hi-Rez support for Hua yet....
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Have no problems with volume on my Sony 100 headphones jack and Poweramp or Sony music player Hi-rez
But sad not Poweramp has Hi-Rez support for Hua yet....

Using stock music player with my Trinity Master IEM (2BA drivers, 1 dynamic) and it has the best sound output so far among my existing devices (xiaomi mi3, nexus 5, oppo f1s). The sound is crisp and full. With DTS, everything sounds louder but more artificial.