One's unibody quality - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I think this will be my new smart phone when I upgrade my contract. But my concern is, as the title states, it's unibody's quality. The iphone5 was a failure.
For those lucky enough on xda that has the phone, your thoughts?

The issues with the iphone were evident straightaway from what I can recall..
This has been around for almost a month.. reviews have had it. No real issues.
Don't own one so cant give you a first hand account though.

pjdm5 said:
I think this will be my new smart phone when I upgrade my contract. But my concern is, as the title states, it's unibody's quality. The iphone5 was a failure.
For those lucky enough on xda that has the phone, your thoughts?
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Definately better than my iPhone 5. The only minor issue I have is that the headphone jack is a little fringed (really, not much, but it bothered me )... but I solved that issue with a scalpel But that's not a problem with the unibody... the aluminium is absolutely flawless.

mDaniel said:
Definately better than my iPhone 5. The only minor issue I have is that the headphone jack is a little fringed (really, not much, but it bothered me )... but I solved that issue with a scalpel
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I raised a thread on the Q&A thread. Some ONEs are coming with tiny nicks on the bezel edges of the aluminium, and one poster already said their Mrs managed to damage the metalwork edge just with her fingernail. So I have no doubt its better than iPhone 5...but aluminium is a soft metal.

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[Q] Future damage on HTC One

I can't decide between the HTC One and the GS4 for one reason only: body damage. All the reviews so far have been about the usual stuff, but no one mentions what possibly could happen in the future. Now, all my previous phones have been plastic, and the scratches and damages have been minimal. But I was just wondering, with the metal and all, how badly it would get affected? Would the body degrade after a year?
Some reports say that the S4 is worse than the One or Iphone 5 in terms of durability. But i want to hear from the users themselves what the reality is.
P.S: I won't use a case, because i'm not about to buy a good phone and ruin its looks with a case.
Appreciate your honest feedback!
Thanks
kingzain900 said:
I can't decide between the HTC One and the GS4 for one reason only: body damage. All the reviews so far have been about the usual stuff, but no one mentions what possibly could happen in the future. Now, all my previous phones have been plastic, and the scratches and damages have been minimal. But I was just wondering, with the metal and all, how badly it would get affected? Would the body degrade after a year?
Some reports say that the S4 is worse than the One or Iphone 5 in terms of durability. But i want to hear from the users themselves what the reality is.
P.S: I won't use a case, because i'm not about to buy a good phone and ruin its looks with a case.
Appreciate your honest feedback!
Thanks
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I had an S3 prior to my One, and have vowed not to go plastic again, as after 12 months my S3 especially the back was covered in ugly scratches, even the plastic case I had on for a month scratched the S3.
The One is made from an aluminium alloy since Aluminium as a pure metal I am sure is way too soft, I think Al-Mg-Si is probably the elements but I dont know the mix.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_alloy
Try this one
http://www.5stareasyofficesupplies....master-Yellow-Phone-Sim-Free&IdProduct=879095
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schrickm5 said:
I had an S3 prior to my One, and have vowed not to go plastic again, as after 12 months my S3 especially the back was covered in ugly scratches, even the plastic case I had on for a month scratched the S3.
The One is made from an aluminium alloy since Aluminium as a pure metal I am sure is way too soft, I think Al-Mg-Si is probably the elements but I dont know the mix.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_alloy
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Oh I didn't know that the S3 could get that bad. Most people have said that plastic handles it well. Thanks for your help though.
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Try this one
http://www.5stareasyofficesupplies....master-Yellow-Phone-Sim-Free&IdProduct=879095
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What a wonderful on-topic post! Thank you soooo much for your kind help and tip. You have solved all my problems.
After having my One for a week , I have managed to bump into the corner of the table and that corner tap into the camera area and shattered the lens cover and damaged the camera modules, it wasn't hard but with sheer bad luck it dented the surrounded area (hardly visible due to no scratches) but it's there.
dethree said:
After having my One for a week , I have managed to bump into the corner of the table and that corner tap into the camera area and shattered the lens cover and damaged the camera modules, it wasn't hard but with sheer bad luck it dented the surrounded area (hardly visible due to no scratches) but it's there.
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Oh jeez that sucks! I hope you had warranty.
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What a wonderful on-topic post! Thank you soooo much for your kind help and tip. You have solved all my problems.
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Seriously, if people thought about what could happen in the future no one would buy anything. Like you I don't really like cases but after paying nearly £500 on this phone I decided to buy a nillkin case off eBay for under £5 and it hardly adds any bulk to the phone, I've still had people ask what phone I've got and been impressed
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Nillkin-Matte-Back-Hard-Cover-Case-LCD-Guard-HTC-One-M7-LTE-64GB-32GB-/130869235452?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D7468025070692046485%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D130869235452%26
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Seriously, if people thought about what could happen in the future no one would buy anything. Like you I don't really like cases but after paying nearly £500 on this phone I decided to buy a nillkin case off eBay for under £5 and it hardly adds any bulk to the phone, I've still had people ask what phone I've got and been impressed
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Nillkin-Matte-Back-Hard-Cover-Case-LCD-Guard-HTC-One-M7-LTE-64GB-32GB-/130869235452?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D7468025070692046485%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D130869235452%26
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Ah that's a really nice case. Thanks. Minimal and clean. I was looking at a DoubleDip case as well but it seems a bit odd. This is definitely cheaper and better.

[Q] Is my HTC One defected ? Please have a look

Hi Guys ;
I have just bought a HTC One but I notice there is a slight gap between the aluminium part and the plastic body in both top and bottom front of the phone. is it a defect ? or is it the same for everyone ? I would appreciate if you take a look at pictures and tell me how it compares to your HTC One.
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ugly. i would return it if i was u
hello00 said:
ugly. i would return it if i was u
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I would definitely return it if it is a defect. so your HTC one has no gaps ?
fifthelement said:
Hi Guys ;
I have just bought a HTC One but I notice there is a slight gap between the aluminium part and the plastic body in both top and bottom front of the phone. is it a defect ? or is it the same for everyone ? I would appreciate if you take a look at pictures and tell me how it compares to your HTC One.
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hi,
i think its fairly common to a varying degree. Mine is pretty much exactly the same both top and bottom. At the moment it doesn't bother me as it is only a samll gap but i certainly would return mine if it started to get any worse. One of my friends has a one and it is horrific, especially around the usb port and another friend who has the one has no gaps whatsoever. So its a bit of a lottery. If it bothers you then i would return it, if you can live with it then enjoy.
Mine has a very tiny opening like yours on the top and my screen is raised a little bit. I've decided not to worry about it unless it gets worse because from what I've searched these are fairly common build quality issues. It's likely that you'll receive another one with some sort of issues.
Welcome to the party, pal:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197732
Its really only a defect cause HTC tried to make the entire phone gapless and advertised it as such.
Unfortunately, unlike the main aluminum body where the plastic was injected and molded into it, the top and bottom speaker grilles are simply glued on.
Like others have said, its a lottery. Go exchange it if you want. But if you can deal with it and there arent other major issues, just keep it.
For me, my first one had a gap, which didnt bother me, but it had some bad overhang and a recessed power button. So I exchanged it.
New one has a tiny overhang, tiny gap, and proper power button. I'm keeping it.
fifthelement said:
I would definitely return it if it is a defect. so your HTC one has no gaps ?
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no gaps at all
fifthelement said:
I would definitely return it if it is a defect. so your HTC one has no gaps ?
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Or you can try and fix it yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250527
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dirtyhamster73 said:
Or you can try and fix it yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250527
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I think that is for pushing the screen down.. dont think it'll work with the the speaker grills.. it might need some adhesive.
rkial said:
I think that is for pushing the screen down.. dont think it'll work with the the speaker grills.. it might need some adhesive.
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People have claimed it also worked for the speaker grills.
Someone said to aim the blow dryer in to the gap, let it get hot, clamp it down....They said that the adhesive for the grills will get soft and after I think 9 days they said the gap is still closed. Someone even stuck theirs in the fridge after to harden the glue after. Forget if they were fixing the screen lift or gaps. Could be in another thread where I read it...Sticking it in the fridge is a little too nuts for me...lol
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Thank you all for your feedbacks and recommendations. I decided to keep the phone as there is no guarantee to get a better replacement phone. I can live with it.
fifthelement said:
Thank you all for your feedbacks and recommendations. I decided to keep the phone as there is no guarantee to get a better replacement phone. I can live with it.
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Dude I totally agree. Keep your phone.
Don't let these OCD freaks tell you your phone looks ugly, those gaps are pretty much on 90 percent of the phones. It has no bearing on how your phone operates.
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How come HTC have had such a rough journey with the One?

I mean, build quality issues everywhere, and not just with the One. I get it that first batch phones are prone to act up, but somehow HTC always have phones like these and not just in first batches. Why is it like this? Don't they have any sort of quality control at all?
Don't get me wrong, I am a happy HTC One owner with a seemingly faultless phone (just a 1mm gap that I didn't even notice, but my younger brother), but this is scaring me, a lot.
With phones costing as much as they do, and only getting more expensive, you'd expect them to be of a certain quality and not just a five-second put together.
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I mean, build quality issues everywhere, and not just with the One. I get it that first batch phones are prone to act up, but somehow HTC always have phones like these and not just in first batches. Why is it like this? Don't they have any sort of quality control at all?
Don't get me wrong, I am a happy HTC One owner with a seemingly faultless phone (just a 1mm gap that I didn't even notice, but my younger brother), but this is scaring me, a lot.
With phones costing as much as they do, and only getting more expensive, you'd expect them to be of a certain quality and not just a five-second put together.
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In all fairness, HTC aren't alone when it comes to bad batches. Literally every phone has had its problems, as soon as a phone hits the masses there's always going to be problems. And in all honesty the one has stood up pretty well. Besides the phone getting hot I can't say that I've has any issues myself.
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dladz said:
In all fairness, HTC aren't alone when it comes to bad batches. Literally every phone has had its problems, as soon as a phone hits the masses there's always going to be problems. And in all honesty the one has stood up pretty well. Besides the phone getting hot I can't say that I've has any issues myself.
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But it seems that HTC have the highest amount of faulty and fault-prone phones. I mean, gaps and things not being fitted correctly. I get that for the first few batches, but now? An acquaintance of mine is on his 5th (fifth) One and the store he bought the original one from (a carrier store but the phone itself is unbranded) has now contacted HTC and he has been promised a Dev edition of the phone and that it will be thoroughly checked before being handed to him.
It shouldn't have to be like that and it's not exactly helping them up from the ground.
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But it seems that HTC have the highest amount of faulty and fault-prone phones. I mean, gaps and things not being fitted correctly. I get that for the first few batches, but now? An acquaintance of mine is on his 5th (fifth) One and the store he bought the original one from (a carrier store but the phone itself is unbranded) has now contacted HTC and he has been promised a Dev edition of the phone and that it will be thoroughly checked before being handed to him.
It shouldn't have to be like that and it's not exactly helping them up from the ground.
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I have seen a lot of them coming through where i work, maybe i've been quite lucky with past phones, but yea you do have a point with HTC, I think that's why they beefed up their repair service, i've got a number for them which I sometimes give to clients and the quickest turnaround was one day (normally 3 - 5 days, as opposed to two or more weeks) which is pretty phenomenal when you consider that the likes of samsung and blackberry take two weeks to get you your phone back and you seldom have any input on what happens to your phone, kind of like your friend getting promised a dev edition.
My desire HD had a GPS problem, and this is actually my third One, the first one had a back button problem, the second i found that it got quite hot and the third was just as hot when stressed, seems that it's just the way this phone is.
Saying all that though, I apparently got quite lucky with my samsung, only had the one and it was perfect for the ten months i had it for, but again people coming in to my work place with SDS, overheating, call related problems like drops and silence, 3G drop outs, broken wifi, screen anomalies, the works, and blackberries, omfg, that company has got build quality issues, the middles optic button breaking and the software, my word i don't know where to begin, freelancing the bbm software is probably the best move RIM have done in years.
Overall i think that some people are simply unlucky with their phones, I think that HTC's aren't too bad in comparison to other handsets but they are definitely one of the companies that have issues.
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I have seen a lot of them coming through where i work, maybe i've been quite lucky with past phones, but yea you do have a point with HTC, I think that's why they beefed up their repair service, i've got a number for them which I sometimes give to clients and the quickest turnaround was one day (normally 3 - 5 days, as opposed to two or more weeks) which is pretty phenomenal when you consider that the likes of samsung and blackberry take two weeks to get you your phone back and you seldom have any input on what happens to your phone, kind of like your friend getting promised a dev edition.
My desire HD had a GPS problem, and this is actually my third One, the first one had a back button problem, the second i found that it got quite hot and the third was just as hot when stressed, seems that it's just the way this phone is.
Saying all that though, I apparently got quite lucky with my samsung, only had the one and it was perfect for the ten months i had it for, but again people coming in to my work place with SDS, overheating, call related problems like drops and silence, 3G drop outs, broken wifi, screen anomalies, the works, and blackberries, omfg, that company has got build quality issues, the middles optic button breaking and the software, my word i don't know where to begin, freelancing the bbm software is probably the best move RIM have done in years.
Overall i think that some people are simply unlucky with their phones, I think that HTC's aren't too bad in comparison to other handsets but they are definitely one of the companies that have issues.
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The One does get hot, there's no way you can get around that and it's the metal that's to blame. I think it goes without saying that metal conducts heat and cold a lot better than plastic. Though the S4 has occasional overheating as well.
Theshawty said:
The One does get hot, there's no way you can get around that and it's the metal that's to blame. I think it goes without saying that metal conducts heat and cold a lot better than plastic. Though the S4 has occasional overheating as well.
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Oh crikey yea, the S4 can bake, I had a hard choice between the two, I had the One first, got some white solo beats, two screen protectors and a double dip flip case for free.
I spent about a week with it and was about to exchange it for the S4 and return all my bits, but it really grew on me, not to mention the build quality is probably the best i have ever seen on a phone (bar a few bad eggs of course) coupled with the fact that they're both generally the same hardware bar the overclock on the S4 i decided to opt for the One and since then i'm constantly reaffirmed that i did the right thing, I'd missed sense since the EVO 3D and i'm glad i stuck it out, the S4 for me was a bit floaty, if you know what i mean, everything is really bright and in your face, I knew i would have just put apex and a theme on there and had done with touchwiz, I can still do that on the One but i actually like sense this time round.
Plus there are a lot of experimental features like the air gestures which i knew were just extra factors for possible failings, many of which have already been reported (phone calls in pockets, volume going up and down on it's own, screen clicking things without you doing anything, etc)
I've heard about a few things you can do about the heat on the One, apparently theres a cooling feature in some of the kernels but i'm not holding much hope for it's actual real life performance, i guess time will tell.
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Oh crikey yea, the S4 can bake, I had a hard choice between the two, I had the One first, got some white solo beats, two screen protectors and a double dip flip case for free.
I spent about a week with it and was about to exchange it for the S4 and return all my bits, but it really grew on me, not to mention the build quality is probably the best i have ever seen on a phone (bar a few bad eggs of course) coupled with the fact that they're both generally the same hardware bar the overclock on the S4 i decided to opt for the One and since then i'm constantly reaffirmed that i did the right thing, I'd missed sense since the EVO 3D and i'm glad i stuck it out, the S4 for me was a bit floaty, if you know what i mean, everything is really bright and in your face, I knew i would have just put apex and a theme on there and had done with touchwiz, I can still do that on the One but i actually like sense this time round.
Plus there are a lot of experimental features like the air gestures which i knew were just extra factors for possible failings, many of which have already been reported (phone calls in pockets, volume going up and down on it's own, screen clicking things without you doing anything, etc)
I've heard about a few things you can do about the heat on the One, apparently theres a cooling feature in some of the kernels but i'm not holding much hope for it's actual real life performance, i guess time will tell.
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The S4 can take a hike. I could have accepted that it's plastic, but it has a lot of things I don't like:
Glossy/slippery polycarbonate
Physical home button
Ugly design
Samsung
I have been a samsung fan since the S2, but have to say, the build quality of the ONE, even with the so called gaps, is a lot better than the S3 and S4.
The galaxy s2 was amazing for build quality, no squeeking back cover, and withstood drops onto concrete without breaking. The S3 and S4 and squeeking, badly built, dainty devices that break with only minor 1 foot drops.
I've dropped my HTC One, twice, from over a meter, onto stone tiles, with only scuffs to the corners of the housing. Two friends have broken their SGS3's, one twice, with only 1 foot drops onto the floor.
As for overheating, my One gets what could only be described as warm, not hot. Sgs4 overheats like mad.
I think HTC are getting a rough deal, because they aren't Samsung or Apple. As soon as you tell someone your phone is HTC, they instantly lose interest and wonder off lol.
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As soon as you tell someone your phone is HTC, they instantly lose interest and wonder off lol.
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Oh, don't I know it, lol! :laugh:
dladz said:
In all fairness, HTC aren't alone when it comes to bad batches. Literally every phone has had its problems, as soon as a phone hits the masses there's always going to be problems. And in all honesty the one has stood up pretty well. Besides the phone getting hot I can't say that I've has any issues myself.
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Agreed. OP, head on over to the Apple forums, search for iPhone 5 threads from October last year and you'll see that there were tons of issues with the iPhone 5 on launch from the cosmetic (the electroplating on the chamfered edges was poor and you get screen sensitivity issues when you use the phone while it's plugged in).
I think we're just more sensitive with HTC issues because they've had a really rough time of it the past 24 months -- whether it's in the financial press or among tech sites and everything gets blown out of proportion.
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Agreed. OP, head on over to the Apple forums, search for iPhone 5 threads from October last year and you'll see that there were tons of issues with the iPhone 5 on launch from the cosmetic (the electroplating on the chamfered edges was poor and you get screen sensitivity issues when you use the phone while it's plugged in).
I think we're just more sensitive with HTC issues because they've had a really rough time of it the past 24 months -- whether it's in the financial press or among tech sites and everything gets blown out of proportion.
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I know about the issues the iPhone 5 had. Anyways, I think everyone are praising Samsung because Samsung has a lot of money and easily enough money to pay off reviewers. I mean, why else would anyone with a fully functioning brain even remotely like something made out of glossy polycarbonate and have an ugly design at that?
It's to me something extremely hard to understand, but maybe it's because I think logically, who knows.
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I have been a samsung fan since the S2, but have to say, the build quality of the ONE, even with the so called gaps, is a lot better than the S3 and S4.
The galaxy s2 was amazing for build quality, no squeeking back cover, and withstood drops onto concrete without breaking. The S3 and S4 and squeeking, badly built, dainty devices that break with only minor 1 foot drops.
I've dropped my HTC One, twice, from over a meter, onto stone tiles, with only scuffs to the corners of the housing. Two friends have broken their SGS3's, one twice, with only 1 foot drops onto the floor.
As for overheating, my One gets what could only be described as warm, not hot. Sgs4 overheats like mad.
I think HTC are getting a rough deal, because they aren't Samsung or Apple. As soon as you tell someone your phone is HTC, they instantly lose interest and wonder off lol.
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What rubbish. The S3 or 4 for that matter might feel less strong, but if anything they are stronger and the fit and finish is better. My One (im on my third after rejecting the other 2 for faults) is lumpy on the sides, it has variable gaps all around and seems easily damaged. Its already more marked than my S3 was at the end of its life despite being in a case.
I eventually cracked the back of my S3, I replaced it with a new original part for £8 and sold it on for £300 after a year. I have already seen marked HTC Ones sell for less.
Its a beautiful phone but flawed like no other.
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I know about the issues the iPhone 5 had. Anyways, I think everyone are praising Samsung because Samsung has a lot of money and easily enough money to pay off reviewers. I mean, why else would anyone with a fully functioning brain even remotely like something made out of glossy polycarbonate and have an ugly design at that?
It's to me something extremely hard to understand, but maybe it's because I think logically, who knows.
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No it because your tastes differ and youre to self important to accept anyone elses opinion. I actually prefer the front of the S4, but the back of the One.
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No it because your tastes differ and youre to self important to accept anyone elses opinion. I actually prefer the front of the S4, but the back of the One.
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Lol!
I would accept that the phone is made out of polycarbonate or other types of plastic, but why the hell did they go with the glossy/slippery finish?
The S3 and S4 both feel budget, there's no denying that and one doesn't want to put a case on his or her One solely because it feels so great but I will have to put a case on it because it's more prone to serious injuries than any other phone I've ever had. Plastic seems to withstand damage the most. I think I've dropped my S3 in a lot of various ways. Screen down, screen up, each of the sides and then I remember I dropped it and it literally bounced off on a solid concrete floor and how does it look today? Almost mint. It's got minor scratches on a the back only visible if you look like really close. It's got some color loss in one of the upper corners and that's about it, the screen has no scratches whatsoever.
That's what I liked with the S3. I don't dare drop the One.
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Lol!
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Keep laughing, it just shows im right.
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Keep laughing, it just shows im right.
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I do accept people's opinions. It's not like I'm showing metal phones down their throats. If they want plastic phones, that's fine.
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I do accept people's opinions. It's not like I'm showing metal phones down their throats. If they want plastic phones, that's fine.
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Then maybe you needed to word your comment better rather than sound so self righteous. There is no right and wrong in design.
Its cultural, design is very much a cultural thing. Take cars for example, Americans like their cars massive, bloated, over the top, loud, garish. The Chinese like them bland, slab sided with tiny wheels, ill proportioned to my eyes.
Some like the glossy finish, it doesnt take Samsung to pay them off. after all the designers and whoever signed off the design must like it, and it has sold 10 million in a month..
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What rubbish. The S3 or 4 for that matter might feel less strong, but if anything they are stronger and the fit and finish is better. My One (im on my third after rejecting the other 2 for faults) is lumpy on the sides, it has variable gaps all around and seems easily damaged. Its already more marked than my S3 was at the end of its life despite being in a case.
I eventually cracked the back of my S3, I replaced it with a new original part for £8 and sold it on for £300 after a year. I have already seen marked HTC Ones sell for less.
Its a beautiful phone but flawed like no other.
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No it because your tastes differ and youre to self important to accept anyone elses opinion. I actually prefer the front of the S4, but the back of the One.
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I don't know why you're flaming the other poster: he's only expressing his opinion. Also, what you meant to write was "you're too self-important..."
Seriously, though -- the main critique against the GS4 is that it's ugly -- the reviewers are just afraid of not getting any inside information on upcoming Samsung releases which is why they're circumventing the fact that the S4 is a poorly-designed device.
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Then maybe you needed to word your comment better rather than sound so self righteous. There is no right and wrong in design.
Its cultural, design is very much a cultural thing. Take cars for example, Americans like their cars massive, bloated, over the top, loud, garish. The Chinese like them bland, slab sided with tiny wheels, ill proportioned to my eyes.
Some like the glossy finish, it doesnt take Samsung to pay them off. after all the designers and whoever signed off the design must like it, and it has sold 10 million in a month..
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In the first place, those sales figures are meaningless absent context: you have to ask things like: did Samsung subsidize the sales? Was there a discount incentive to order in bulk? How many units were available to ship? Also, you have to take into account the fact that there were production issues with the HTC One.
Besides, HTC have come and said that they've sold 5 of the One. That isn't too bad considering that Samsung can outspend everyone outside of Apple to market their devices -- and that includes giving retailers sales incentives and their more aggressive advertising.
All I can say is this.
I had an s2 for about 2yrs and the main problems I had with it was, the charger port going out. Overheating, it would get almost burning hot in my pocket, and with the jelly bean update the battery die way to fast. Would lose 3-5% just by unplugging.
The s3 didn't add much I wanted so I didn't get one
My friend did and had the s2 before. Said it wasn't much of a change and that the s3 was cheap. He broke the battery back, chip the sides and then finally broke the screen.
Had the phone not about 6months. He said his old s2 was build better and last longer then that and he went back to it once the s3 was done.
To me the HTC one feels nice and I don't have a problem with anything. No overheating, crazy battery, I haven't drop it but I'm willing to beat it won't fall apart like a s3 or s4.
But to each his own. There is people who look iPhones but imo they are cheap parts of crap. Have replaced way to many screens for people that drop them from small Heights.
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I don't know why you'r flaming the other poster: he's only expressing his opinion. Also, what you meant to write was "you're too self-important..."
Seriously, though -- the main critique against the GS4 is that it's ugly -- the reviewers are just afraid of not getting any inside information on upcoming Samsung releases which is why they're circumventing the fact that the S4 is a poorly-designed device.
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Why? Well this is what he said..
'It's to me something extremely hard to understand, but maybe it's because I think logically, who knows. '
So anyone who likes the S4 is not thinking logically? There is no logic to taste anyway..
I have said this before in previous threads but the S4 is a quality device. Its made of good quality plastic, and crucially, its made well. The HTC is also made of good quality materials, but its made badly. Whether you like how the material are used is not a build quality issue, its an issue of taste.
I'll try to word my sentences better next time. Sometimes, they sound better in my head and in my native language then come out sounding completely wrong in English. ^^

Should I buy the HTC One?

I'm thinking of purchasing an HTC One, but I'm a little bit skeptical because of the durability of the camera lens. There have been many posts about the lens breaking due to temperature issues, and this is hindering me from buying the phone. To those who haven't experienced this issue, is it worth buying for, and are there any ways that could be done to prevent the lens on the HTC One to crack? Thanks.
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I'm thinking of purchasing an HTC One, but I'm a little bit skeptical because of the durability of the camera lens. There have been many posts about the lens breaking due to temperature issues, and this is hindering me from buying the phone. To those who haven't experienced this issue, is it worth buying for, and are there any ways that could be done to prevent the lens on the HTC One to crack? Thanks.
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I have used my phone in temperatures so hot it has shut itself off, twice, to the point where touching it hurts, and my camera lens is perfectly intact. I know a friend who uses his One pretty often for gaming and his gets hot too, and his has fallen over 10 times (the back housing looks terrible :crying and his camera lens has yet to see a single scratch (even I wonder how...). Point being, the camera lens is tough to break, ever since the One X. Don't ever take the word of the few 2 or 3, when the rest of the 2,000 or 3,000 are enjoying similar or even equal set ups :highfive:
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I have used my phone in temperatures so hot it has shut itself off, twice, to the point where touching it hurts, and my camera lens is perfectly intact. I know a friend who uses his One pretty often for gaming and his gets hot too, and his has fallen over 10 times (the back housing looks terrible :crying and his camera lens has yet to see a single scratch (even I wonder how...). Point being, the camera lens is tough to break, ever since the One X. Don't ever take the word of the few 2 or 3, when the rest of the 2,000 or 3,000 are enjoying similar or even equal set ups :highfive:
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I think you should check out the XDA thread on the HTC One camera lens shattering.
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I think you should check out the XDA thread on the HTC One camera lens shattering.
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I did, but it honestly seems as if that guy had it happen by accident.. I mean, even I have by mistake hit the wall or desk with my phone in my pocket and the phone was the one actually recieving the hit, not a ding or scratch and even less a crack.. I also put the phone with the screen facing inside and the back outside when in my pocket.
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I did, but it honestly seems as if that guy had it happen by accident.. I mean, even I have by mistake hit the wall or desk with my phone in my pocket and the phone was the one actually recieving the hit, not a ding or scratch and even less a crack.. I also put the phone with the screen facing inside and the back outside when in my pocket.
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alright thanks for the reply. so i shouldn't worry about the camera lens being too fragile right? I don't want to spend $500 on a phone and have to pay for repairs for poor manufacturing on the camera.
ipeemyself said:
alright thanks for the reply. so i shouldn't worry about the camera lens being too fragile right? I don't want to spend $500 on a phone and have to pay for repairs for poor manufacturing on the camera.
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Not really, those lenses are actually pretty tough to crack... I really can't imagine more than maybe hitting the corner of a table or a raised pointy object with the lense, maybe a fall with a tpu case since camera lenses are never covered... But outside of a hard/unplanned impact where the lens took all the force, I can't imagine a regular, everyday scenario where the camera lens would actually break by just using it... Heck, look up Poetic Atmosphere case on youtube, that case is HELL to get on and off... I feared cracking my screen and camera lens when taking it off cause I applied a lot of preassure, both glasses are still holding on strong
ipeemyself said:
I'm thinking of purchasing an HTC One, but I'm a little bit skeptical because of the durability of the camera lens. There have been many posts about the lens breaking due to temperature issues, and this is hindering me from buying the phone. To those who haven't experienced this issue, is it worth buying for, and are there any ways that could be done to prevent the lens on the HTC One to crack? Thanks.
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I think that buying an HTC device in general is a gamble. their QC is very bad. I had a desire which was amazing. then I bought a ONE X It's in repairs for a year now and nothing functioning with it. now I have the ONE for about a month now and guess what? I have dust on the inner part of my screen, the top bit of the digitizer is not working and have the known problem of the pink haze while taking pictures in low light.
for me, the camera lens is fine, you need to be careful about other stuff.
eranbaruch said:
I think that buying an HTC device in general is a gamble. their QC is very bad. I had a desire which was amazing. then I bought a ONE X It's in repairs for a year now and nothing functioning with it. now I have the ONE for about a month now and guess what? I have dust on the inner part of my screen, the top bit of the digitizer is not working and have the known problem of the pink haze while taking pictures in low light.
for me, the camera lens is fine, you need to be careful about other stuff.
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the color hue is normal in low light, stupidly normal if u ask me... dunno why it does it, but i dont like it still, it only happens on the most darkest of places with barely any light... dust in ur screen? thats why carriers replace One devices if they come with that screen bump issue or the gap issue is too serious, it's practically mandatory for them to replace the device if it has those manufacturer defects (already been talked about since the phone was released, btw). the digitizer area not working u may already know it's because of the dust. anyway, mine was one of the many One's that didn't have any screen gap or bump, so no dust in mine
to be brutally honest, buy the damn phone. its a beast, and until you encounter a problem, dont worry about it. Ive had mine naked for 3 months, and no scratches, dings, dents, build issues, nothing. dont let a bad apple ruin the bunch.
Toxicoblivion said:
to be brutally honest, buy the damn phone. its a beast, and until you encounter a problem, dont worry about it. Ive had mine naked for 3 months, and no scratches, dings, dents, build issues, nothing. dont let a bad apple ruin the bunch.
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+1, I just use a case cause I get distracted easily and sometimes accidents happen... Rarely, but, u never know XD do u use a screen protector? Mine collects more finger prints than the very screen and it's kinda beat up, so I was considering taking it off...
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+1, I just use a case cause I get distracted easily and sometimes accidents happen... Rarely, but, u never know XD do u use a screen protector? Mine collects more finger prints than the very screen and it's kinda beat up, so I was considering taking it off...
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No never have. Screen is Gorilla Glass V2. Why would you need a screen protecter unless your draggin keys, shards, or something rugged against it. I have no scratches on my phone.
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No never have. Screen is Gorilla Glass V2. Why would you need a screen protecter unless your draggin keys, shards, or something rugged against it. I have no scratches on my phone.
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Well, only reason I'm using one is cause the One X had GG2 too but it got scratched while in my pocket :/ really have no idea how it happened cause I always keep my pockets clean, plus the One I'm using right now is a warranty replacement, the previous One (sold to me by a friend who didn't know he had 304 days of warranty on the phone) had some scratches on the screen, but it was obviously abused lol it had dings n all, he rlly doesnt take care of his phones... I'm glad he now has an S4 XD
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Well, only reason I'm using one is cause the One X had GG2 too but it got scratched while in my pocket :/ really have no idea how it happened cause I always keep my pockets clean, plus the One I'm using right now is a warranty replacement, the previous One (sold to me by a friend who didn't know he had 304 days of warranty on the phone) had some scratches on the screen, but it was obviously abused lol it had dings n all, he rlly doesnt take care of his phones... I'm glad he now has an S4 XD
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Me to while in my pocket With the HTC one I never had scratches on my previous devices maybe the screen quality i had was bad but im going to send it to the my carrier back along With soms other problems.
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Toxicoblivion said:
to be brutally honest, buy the damn phone. its a beast, and until you encounter a problem, dont worry about it. Ive had mine naked for 3 months, and no scratches, dings, dents, build issues, nothing. dont let a bad apple ruin the bunch.
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I had a scratch in nowtime but my previous devices never im really taking care of it.
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ipeemyself said:
I'm thinking of purchasing an HTC One, but I'm a little bit skeptical because of the durability of the camera lens. There have been many posts about the lens breaking due to temperature issues, and this is hindering me from buying the phone. To those who haven't experienced this issue, is it worth buying for, and are there any ways that could be done to prevent the lens on the HTC One to crack? Thanks.
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HTC have sold over 5 million of these units... people without problems do not report that they do not have problems, it's only those that do which make up a very tiny percentage
Just my $0.02 for what it's worth.... I traded an SGS4 locally for my HTC One and I only had it 3 days when I broke the LCD. Mind you, I had an Incipio Feather case on it (which does nothing for shock and more to prevent scratches). Here's the weird part, I dropped it literally 6-10" at most on to a ceramic tile floor. The display did NOT shatter upon impact. I picked it up, examined it... Everything looked fine and then I sat it down on a marble countertop and right there before my very eyes I watched the LCD glass spiderweb as I heard the creaking sounds of the glass cracking. It was the MOST bizarre experience. A) I've never broken a display before and B) I typically take VERY good care of my devices since I usually buy off contract every 6 months or so. I sent it in to an authorized HTC repair center, paid $180 and they fixed my device flawlessly. My One is still in MINT condition. I think as long as you take care of your device you won't have a problem with the camera lense. Taking into consideration that thread you pointed out I'm surprised my cam lense didn't break too. But, it didn't. I was very pleased with HTC's efficiency at repairing my device but was worried they wouldn't reassemble it well. My worries were not justified. Take it for what it's worth to you.
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Great news guys, I just picked it up. hope all goes well. *fingers crossed*
Luisit0 said:
Well, only reason I'm using one is cause the One X had GG2 too but it got scratched while in my pocket :/ really have no idea how it happened cause I always keep my pockets clean, plus the One I'm using right now is a warranty replacement, the previous One (sold to me by a friend who didn't know he had 304 days of warranty on the phone) had some scratches on the screen, but it was obviously abused lol it had dings n all, he rlly doesnt take care of his phones... I'm glad he now has an S4 XD
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Maybe im just insanely lucky then. Idk. But, no scratches, no QC problems, no problems at all. I have no complaints. This phone is rugged even while naked, which is sweet because it lets me enjoy that super premium feel when i get to hold it.
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ipeemyself said:
Great news guys, I just picked it up. hope all goes well. *fingers crossed*
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Looking sweeeeeeeeeet. Hope you enjoy it.
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Already dented my N5

Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Strange. The Cruzerlite (which are thin TPU cases, cheap in my opinion) drop test stood up to NUMEROUS drops & the device survived without any sign of damage. Not a scratch or dent.
Is you device white or black? My old Nexus 10 had a defect in the black soft touch coating that looked like a dent, but it was more likely an issue in the molding or application process.
vodka7 said:
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Pics?
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Pics?
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Mine is the white version, but the dent is on the top right above the camera, on the black portion, right where the side casing touches the glass. I would have a very hard time photographing this because of where it is on the phone/lighting etc.. ill try when I get home though.
vodka7 said:
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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a picture speaks a thousand words
I have about 5 or so nicks on the sides where the glass and plastic edge meet on my naked white N5. I agree that the plastic used is pretty brittle but it's not noticeable unless you really look for it.
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Get a sufficient case otherwise you can't really complain...
I have one little mark or nick as well where the plastic case meets the glass on that tiny little lip. My 2 year old got a hold of my phone and dropped it on a metal external hard drive case the day I got it and it landed right on 90 degree edge of the case... I went temporarily insane. It is very small but kind of surprised me I guess. I dropped my galaxy S3 many times and never got more than the little hairline scratches you see in glossy plastic. That soft touch coating seems to have some give to it. It was my fault. My parents gave my kids a new ipad mini and I set my phone on top of it. I was in the other room and heard him say "new tablet". I knew at that moment the mistake I had made...
I have one of those really slim cases on the way which would have prevented it. I typically don't use cases and am usually not bothered by the small marks I get on my phones but because some of those ultra thin cases are so slim now days I am going to try one out. Marking up a brand new phone is a little different than one that's a year+ old...
I too, also have a slight dent under the screen bezel part of mine. I have never dropped mine. Noticed it while it was on the table; that the reflection of the curtain was slightly bent at the one area, instead of being completely straight. Looked closely, and sure enough, there was a dent. It's not noticeable during day-to-day use, but you CAN notice it if looking at the reflection it shows.
The chrome bezel on the nexus 4 was susceptible to dents as well.
A few weeks ago the Nexus 5 flew out of my hands and landed on our concrete driveway. I feared the worst, but only a small dent in the upper left corner of the back panel and some scratching is all that happened. Lucky me, but I still hate it. Never had a single blemish on the Nexus 4.
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The sides of this phone are fine, besides the fact that they collect dust like crazy. The screen, however, is not. Another guy posting on Android Central also reported having a dent, similar to mine. I actually think this dent came with my device. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago, but disregarded it, as I thought it was the screen protector that came with the phone, but I decided to remove it and check again. It IS a part of the screen
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The sides of this phone are fine, besides the fact that they collect dust like crazy. The screen, however, is not. Another guy posting on Android Central also reported having a dent, similar to mine. I actually think this dent came with my device. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago, but disregarded it, as I thought it was the screen protector that came with the phone, but I decided to remove it and check again. It IS a part of the screen
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Normal. That's why most early glass screen protectors were not sticking properly.
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Normal. That's why most early glass screen protectors were not sticking properly.
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Normal? How is a dent on the screen normal? My Nexus 10 does not have this, my old Samsung Vibrant does not have this. Why would a dent on a Nexus 5 be normal?
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Normal? How is a dent on the screen normal? My Nexus 10 does not have this, my old Samsung Vibrant does not have this. Why would a dent on a Nexus 5 be normal?
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I would say it's normal because of the following reasons:
1) it doesn't effect the usage of the device in any way
2) it's barely noticeable even in the "perfect" lighting conditions
3) many have reported the exact same thing in the early tempered glass threads; the only time it has ever come up or been noticed.
So why exactly is it a problem for you? Corners were cut to make this phone at a cheap price I would think that's pretty clear. It's also not the screen itself but around it.
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In my N5 have no dent and any scratch..
I love with my N5
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I would say it's normal because of the following reasons:
1) it doesn't effect the usage of the device in any way
2) it's barely noticeable even the "perfect" lighting conditions
3) many have reported the exact same thing in the early tempered glass threads; the only time it has ever come up or been noticed.
So why exactly is it a problem for you? Corners were cut to make this phone at a cheap price I would think that's pretty clear.
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There's a difference between "corners being cut" to make the device cheaper and really poor quality control. I understand them using a less camera module and a lower capacity battery, and a screen that washes out when tilted, etc, but the numerous issues with the hardware is ridiculous. Dents in screen, poor GPS connectivity, Wi-Fi problems, dust under screen, loose vibration motor, rattling buttons, and so on.
There is no reason for hardware bugs like this. To lower the price, lesser powerful hardware is used, but the low price is no excuse for poor quality. Like some users said, in terms of hardware, this device is like an alpha, and the only way to receive the "perfect" device is to continuously RMA.
We paid for the device, we should not be getting so many faults and issues.
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There's a difference between "corners being cut" to make the device cheaper and really poor quality control. I understand them using a less camera module and a lower capacity battery, and a screen that washes out when tilted, etc, but the numerous issues with the hardware is ridiculous. Dents in screen, poor GPS connectivity, Wi-Fi problems, dust under screen, loose vibration motor, rattling buttons, and so on.
There is no reason for hardware bugs like this. To lower the price, lesser powerful hardware is used, but the low price is no excuse for poor quality. Like some users said, in terms of hardware, this device is like an alpha, and the only way to receive the "perfect" device is to continuously RMA.
We paid for the device, we should not be getting so many faults and issues.
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How is it even a defect? It's not even noticeable. No one would consider it a hardware bug except apparently you. Please explain how this effects the usage of your device in any way.
Poor quality control is EXACTLY how corners are cut. Manufacturing anything has margin of errors and the less margin of error you're willing to release the more phones are "thrown away" and the more money a released device will cost. I'd explain more but I'm sure Wikipedia or a Google search can better explain the finer points of manufacturing and quality control then I can.
You read the specs of the phone and it has everything a $700 phone has but it costs $400. How did you think that was accomplished?
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You read the specs of the phone and it has everything a $700 phone has but it costs $400. How did you think that was accomplished?
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There is a lot of discussion about that price... but Google routinely undercuts the competition when it comes to the nexus line (looking at you, 7)
Looking at the specs of the 5, then looking at comparable phones out ing the market, the only conclusion I can come to is that Google is letting these things go at either zero margin, or (my thought) at a fairly beefy loss.... kicking back cash to LG to cover their losses.
All you need to do is look at the other phones available at the same full retail price... does the 5 seem anywhere close to those? Nope, it blows them all out of the water... laughable in most cases. Now, you can cut corners to lower prices, but you can't cut THAT much.
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There is a lot of discussion about that price... but Google routinely undercuts the competition when it comes to the nexus line (looking at you, 7)
Looking at the specs of the 5, then looking at comparable phones out ing the market, the only conclusion I can come to is that Google is letting these things go at either zero margin, or (my thought) at a fairly beefy loss.... kicking back cash to LG to cover their losses.
All you need to do is look at the other phones available at the same full retail price... does the 5 seem anywhere close to those? Nope, it blows them all out of the water... laughable in most cases. Now, you can cut corners to lower prices, but you can't cut THAT much.
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The actual cost break down might never be known. One thing is for sure though, LG is not willing to take any loss and whatever Google may have paid them "extra" they will still try and build the phone as cheap as they possibly can.
LG does not consider the Nexus as their flagship phone and will never treat it as such. It's a phone they were contracted to build and they will cut every corner they can. It's just business.

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