I bought my N4 on 22-3-13.
it is a great device and i tried calibrating the screen before sending it in.
i had a REV11 unit.
anyway my problem was that i was having really yellowish tint on all screen but specially from left lower corner.
but the most annoying were the huge black spots especially on the upper side-center of the screen.
ok i did not worry cause some told me that that was just glue waiting to dry (well that is just BS).
the spots became larger and easier to spot when phone was getting hot( normal hot) and my eys were getting tired by that ( i guess because knowing where it is was making me concentate on that).
so i sent it to LG service here in Greece-Athens explaining the problem and along with the phone i sent a comparison pictire with another N4 of a friend.
their response toward me was " We see nothing. it is perfect. we are sending it back to you"!
lol. i asked them to keep it and contacted the customer protection agency.
2 days later LG calls me and says they are exchanging my motherboard. i asked them why, 2 days earlier you found nothing?
the responded it was the fault for the bad screen.
so they sent it back and guess what, the problem is still there and they sent a REV10 which i δon't minδ that but the previous board was flawless.
so now i am very pissed and will send it back on monday but to conclude, how dumb do you have to be not to exchange the screen and instead chang the MB when it is clearly the fault of that?
P.S: which one you think looks better?
The left one for sure is better
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The left one for sure is better
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that is my point. they said it is the same. everyone i have asked say the same.
also a third one looks just like the left one. great
Personally, I don't see a problem with either. There will always be minor variations with screens.
If you want to be really picky about things, the left one that's "better" has a blueish hue on the top 1/3rd of the screen. I'd rather take the right one, but that's the point it's all subjective.
It looks like gamma variation. IMO the right one looks better. It looks like it has deeper blacks.
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Are the brightness levels the same on both of the phones in that picture?
I know there are screen variances with this phone, though many don't believe. My coworkers Nexus 4 scree has washed out colors, whites aren't white, and just plain doesn't look as good as all of the others I've seen.
Some reviews you see on the web talk about the screen of the N4 seeming washed out. My phone isn't washed out in the slightest bit.
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it's not even close.. the one on the left looks great, the one on the right looks like sh*t
You'd have to be blind not to admit that.
I just replicated the exact same thing with my friend's N4.
1) Gamma/Saturation can make it look exactly how yours do.
2) Brightness, I've got one set low and one set high and they do the same as what yours do...
I like the one on the right
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Personally seeing issues like this makes me understand why companies lock bootloaders, and try to chase away modders like most on XDA. We are the most pickiest of all cell phone uses. We create problems that don't really exist and brick more phones than anybody else.
Having two phones with two different color tint is perfectly normal it happens all the time with big screen TVs. A manufactured doesn't always use the same supplier to supply a LCD screen Hance the different color tint.
Just get on with your life enjoy the phone and stop looking at a white screen
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I was in the cell phone industry for over 10 years and this is a normal variation. Literally it happens all the time you probably might not have noticed if you had not had two phones next to each other. If you had brought that back to my store we would have told you it was normal. If phone manufacturers replaced phones for minor variations they would not be. If you don't like it sell it.
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Yellow tint goes away after one week of using the device. Or root it and put your own screen values.
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Personally seeing issues like this makes me understand why companies lock bootloaders, and try to chase away modders like most on XDA. We are the most pickiest of all cell phone uses. We create problems that don't really exist and brick more phones than anybody else.
Having two phones with two different color tint is perfectly normal it happens all the time with big screen TVs. A manufactured doesn't always use the same supplier to supply a LCD screen Hance the different color tint.
Just get on with your life enjoy the phone and stop looking at a white screen
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If they did that successfully, your phone would suck bro. The "modders"as you so elegantly put it are the reason things improve. Don't believe me? Look at how many 3rd apps turned into features that Android uses now as part of their OS. Linux is beautiful because of open source and sharing ideas. Go buy an iPhone and "get on with your life". It's consumers like you that allow mfgs to cram crap down your throat
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If they did that successfully, your phone would suck bro. The "modders"as you so elegantly put it are the reason things improve. Don't believe me? Look at how many 3rd apps turned into features that Android uses now as part of their OS. Linux is beautiful because of open source and sharing ideas. Go buy an iPhone and "get on with your life". It's consumers like you that allow mfgs to cram crap down your throat
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Nothing against "modders" as I'm one myself. And I do appreciate the work that some have done on certain devices. But I mostly talking about the nitpicking, OCD'ing flashaholic that return devices after devices for minor imperfections like a squeaking volume rocker or yellowish tint, I can name a million more things but lets leave it at that.
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I'll leave mine here got the same problem
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Please Help me
Sorry this is off topic:
[Q] (hardware problem)
Can somebody help me with my power button problem :
here is the link to the thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2231944
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Are the brightness levels the same on both of the phones in that picture?
I know there are screen variances with this phone, though many don't believe. My coworkers Nexus 4 scree has washed out colors, whites aren't white, and just plain doesn't look as good as all of the others I've seen.
Some reviews you see on the web talk about the screen of the N4 seeming washed out. My phone isn't washed out in the slightest bit.
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yes they are absolutely stock. brightness 100% manual mode
it is not only the colors, it is the black spots too if you read my OP. they make my eyws suffer just by knowing they are there.
it is not a taboo to ask what you payed for, which is an perfect working gadget. and i payed almost 500 euro for that.
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I was in the cell phone industry for over 10 years and this is a normal variation. Literally it happens all the time you probably might not have noticed if you had not had two phones next to each other. If you had brought that back to my store we would have told you it was normal. If phone manufacturers replaced phones for minor variations they would not be. If you don't like it sell it.
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just so you know i am in the mobile phone industry.
i have a service center for mobile phones. i do not want to mention which one i represent.
i am not talking about color variations or lcd suppliers, i tried to calibrate it, but nevermind that, as i keep on saying the spots make the difference.
and i never asked the service to change the MB. i was very specific describing the problem.
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Sorry this is off topic:
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Can somebody help me with my power button problem :
here is the link to the thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2231944
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you can just peel the mylar of the on/off button and scratch it or clean it with glass fiber.
remont the mylar, remont the switch, assembly the phone.
should be working
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All this talk about dead pixels,dust, screens coming apart etc. I have not one issue with my Rooted N7 and my First ever tablet .
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I've only had mine for 12hrs so far ..... don't want to jinx anything so I'll leave it at that for now I'll get back to you in a week.
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All this talk about dead pixels,dust, screens coming apart etc. I have not one issue with my Rooted N7 and my First ever tablet .
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I think most people who get a defective unit complain... while most that don't have no reason to post that they rec'd a great product. I myself have a flawless one as well. Plus 5 of my friends...
I'm about to be on my third and my patience is starting to run thin. May keep the next one regardless and RMA direct with Asus. Scary that I'm actually expecting it to be faulty and hope its broken enough for RMA.
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I have no issues with either of mine (both are 16g pre order units.)
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No issues here.
99% of the noise is either people with WAY out of kilter expectations for a £160 tablet, or are simply Apple shills.
You also have to consider that on forums like this, you will only ever hear from people with problems. Nobody comes here to say things are running fine.
Every device has manufacturing issues for sure, but considering the high numbers of Nexus7 devices shipped, and the rock-bottom pricing, it's actually rather good. Although try telling gutter press reporters like The Register and Engadget this, they will stir up an old crap if it means website hits. Both sites have destroyed their credibility in recent years over desperate fanboy reporting.
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All this talk about dead pixels,dust, screens coming apart etc. I have not one issue with my Rooted N7 and my First ever tablet .
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Mine is 100% perfect. The couple of people that I know personally with N7's have no issues either. I'm starting to think there is a lot more fiction than fact in these forums.
No issues at all. Screen is flush. Ran a display test and no dead pixels. All is well
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had the thing less than 24 hrs:
screen good no dead pixels or flicker or construction problems
headphone socket seems ok
speaker volume in the normal range
only quandary is which gel case to buy ...
You sure you have a flawless nexus 7? Please make a video and post it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1789450
Download the multitouch test app, put your tablet on the table and make the axis cross, like in the OP video.
Thank you very much, we really need your feedback to know if we should RMA it. Cheers!
Nope. Mine is flawless.
Another 100% perfect tablet here. This is my first tablet and I have to say that it is unbelievable, especially at this price point. I really think that both the hardware and software on this thing gives us a snapshot into the future of these devices.
I already want to integrate jellybean into some sort of home automation system. With Google Now the possibilities are very cool.
Everything is great except looking on the centre of the left long side the screen is like half a mm lifted but don't mind it and wouldn't have noticed it if I didn't know what to look for
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I to have a good unit. Got paranoid, thought I had dead pixel, but it was a speck of dirt.
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Got to play with a brand new one for a week, flawless.. I've now seen 3 additional units, they look ok as well.
Don't know of anyone personally who has one with any issues yet. None of these people use forums.
Via my HTC Rezound
After a few hours fine so far, touch wood.
No dead/stuck pixels.
No sign of screen lift, though I gather this may not be immediately evident.
Don't notice any ghosting.
Thought headphone socket was broken till I realised you need to push a bit harder than I'm used to on other devices to get them to click in place.
Only small glitch was while undergoing a lot of switching between different wifi options (testing speeds on home wifi, mobile tether blue tooth tether etc) settings force closed and sound stopped working till after reboot.
Free content is junk like I expected.
After unlocking bootloader used another email seem to have a second offering of credit. Didn't have card registered so it says I'll get credit when I register a card. Will wait till I have used first credit and know more about any repercussions for this.
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I got a good one.Everything works well and I am very pleased with it.
Of course I am older that a lot of you guys and might just not be so picky about things that don't matter to me.:laugh:
jaroslavj said:
You sure you have a flawless nexus 7? Please make a video and post it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1789450
Download the multitouch test app, put your tablet on the table and make the axis cross, like in the OP video.
Thank you very much, we really need your feedback to know if we should RMA it. Cheers!
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Why should someone seek out a defect they wouldn't ordinarily notice or care about? Yes, you can be a hypochondriac when it comes to electronics too. Realistically we all have "something wrong" with us at any given time, and the same thing can be said about your electronic device.
Each and every device (not just N7s) out there has some kind of "minor defect" (and by that I mean doesn't work precisely as the owner might expect). The point is, owner who aren't obsessed about having a "perfect" device don't run 20 different diagnostic apps to try to hunt down that "defect".
I'm not saying every person who complains about a defect is a hypochondriac, there are definitively a select few real issues out there just like their always have been and always will be with every electronic device. However, there are many many more people who will just never be pleased, like those who have had multiple RMAs.
I have had mine since the 17th, no problems yet.
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16 gig pre-order from the PS and I haven't noticed any issues
I'm sorry to say my second Nexus 7 despite initially looking good has now popped the left side of its glass and displayed a stuck green sub-pixel. I'm really disappointed as I think its a fantastic device apart from the poor QC. I may try and buy later if I see on this forum that ASUS have got there act together.
Good luck to all who are trying to get a decent unit.
Poor QC, overinflated expectations for a entry level device, or a newly registered shill poster.
I replaced mine through the play store and its perfect. Maybe I just got lucky.
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Poor QC, overinflated expectations for a entry level device, or a newly registered shill poster.
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LOL! I dont think expecting the glass to be stuck to the body of the device is an 'inflated expectation'? regardless of price point. Tosser :laugh:
Yeah I'm pretty sure the front is not supposed to fall off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
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He is right. My first nexus had screen lift. My second had a faulty LCD and my third has screen lift again.
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Same here, my second replacement is good, glad i did it instead of putting up with a creaky raised screen
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haloimplant said:
Yeah I'm pretty sure the front is not supposed to fall off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
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Some of them are built so the front doesn't fall off at all... just some aren't prepped quite as safe as some of the others
Here is a thought... A crazy one I know but here you go....
Instead of constantly replacing a newly released device because of minor screen lift that does not effect normal use how about taking a chill pill, breathing in and out and relaxing?
Mine has screen lift and it still works great! Me? I will wait a few months and replace it once the flaw is fixed in manufacturing and there has been enough time to filter out all the flawed still in stock versions...
When I picked up my first one and it had screen lift, I was disappointed and angry. When I exchanged for a second one and it had screen lift and a non-functioning touch screen, I was just angry. When I picked up my third one with screen lift I just shrugged. Yesterday I picked up my fourth one with screen lift and a loudly popping speaker and I just laughed :silly:
There must be bad lots or something?
On my first unit I bought at staples and everyone I know local has no issues and no replacements. I have been and will keep looking for issues on them but so far so good.
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Here is a thought... A crazy one I know but here you go....
Instead of constantly replacing a newly released device because of minor screen lift that does not effect normal use how about taking a chill pill, breathing in and out and relaxing?
Mine has screen lift and it still works great! Me? I will wait a few months and replace it once the flaw is fixed in manufacturing and there has been enough time to filter out all the flawed still in stock versions...
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Yeah, what is up with people, expecting a product without defects? That is just weird.
Hopefully those people get filtered out of the gene pool and we can live in a peaceful future were defects are accepted as normal.
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Yeah, what is up with people, expecting a product without defects? That is just weird.
Hopefully those people get filtered out of the gene pool and we can live in a peaceful future were defects are accepted as normal.
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Learn to read....
I said nothing about a defect being acceptable..
You may now remove foot from mouth...
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Here is a thought... A crazy one I know but here you go....
Instead of constantly replacing a newly released device because of minor screen lift that does not effect normal use how about taking a chill pill, breathing in and out and relaxing?
Mine has screen lift and it still works great! Me? I will wait a few months and replace it once the flaw is fixed in manufacturing and there has been enough time to filter out all the flawed still in stock versions...
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I'll bet that what actually happens is you'll send yours in, and you'll receive a refurb with EXACTLY the same problem. But you're so Zen-like about the whole thing, you'll just smile and go through the process over and over and never lose your cool. I envy your calm.
Of course, you'll have to hope the defect is obvious immediately, because every time you connect a new device to your Google account (and granted, one should put a hard limit on how many defects one accepts before considering the product to be junk) you'll use up a Google Music activation. And we can only deactivate 10 devices in a year. A big deal? Maybe, if you go through freaking defective products like this trying to get one that works decently.
Oh, and that will be another device that shows up in your list in Google Play that you can't delete. You'll remove it from the menu, but it'll be sitting there, taunting you.
Oh, and maybe you open an ebook on the defective that's limited to 3 devices, and then you can't open the book on your new one. And maybe the "remove from device" option isn't there, so you have to go through Google to get things fixed. But hey, relax, right?
If you're happy to sit on a defective device for months with the hope that it'll be better fixed later, knock yourself out. For some of us, the Nexus 7 is a special device, being the only Nexus tablet, and we just want one without defects. This whole preachy routine really does get a bit old.
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Here is a thought... A crazy one I know but here you go....
Instead of constantly replacing a newly released device because of minor screen lift that does not effect normal use how about taking a chill pill, breathing in and out and relaxing?
Mine has screen lift and it still works great! Me? I will wait a few months and replace it once the flaw is fixed in manufacturing and there has been enough time to filter out all the flawed still in stock versions...
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Here is a rational thought.
How about a device should not have a so called minor screen lift issue. That moves around when you touch you the screen. That when you pick up the device and hold it the damn thing feels like it is falling apart and about to simply break.
Only a fool would accept that and keep the device. It doesn't affect normal use? What are you smoking? A touch screen device with a defective screen doesn't effect normal use? So you're going to keep a bad crappy device for a couple of months because hell I don't know why. So everybody else should keep their as well.
These devices currently have a ton of QC issues. Fact. People will report and discuss them. The only trolls are the people that keep saying people reporting issues etc must be trolling.
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I'll bet that what actually happens is you'll send yours in, and you'll receive a refurb with EXACTLY the same problem. But you're so Zen-like about the whole thing, you'll just smile and go through the process over and over and never lose your cool. I envy your calm.
Of course, you'll have to hope the defect is obvious immediately, because every time you connect a new device to your Google account (and granted, one should put a hard limit on how many defects one accepts before considering the product to be junk) you'll use up a Google Music activation. And we can only deactivate 10 devices in a year. A big deal? Maybe, if you go through freaking defective products like this trying to get one that works decently.
Oh, and that will be another device that shows up in your list in Google Play that you can't delete. You'll remove it from the menu, but it'll be sitting there, taunting you.
Oh, and maybe you open an ebook on the defective that's limited to 3 devices, and then you can't open the book on your new one. And maybe the "remove from device" option isn't there, so you have to go through Google to get things fixed. But hey, relax, right?
If you're happy to sit on a defective device for months with the hope that it'll be better fixed later, knock yourself out. For some of us, the Nexus 7 is a special device, being the only Nexus tablet, and we just want one without defects. This whole preachy routine really does get a bit old.
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Guess how many devices I have linked to my account? lol
Seven GNex phones and two N7s. I've returned 4 N7s but one of them had a broken touch screen so I couldn't actually set it up and on the other the screen lift was so bad that I didn't bother powering it up. Crazy stuff. I honestly don't know why I keep coming back to the Nexus brand after my recent experiences.
Here's an actual rational though.
Only a fool would fail to read and call someone out for something opposite of what they said.
CHILL OUT, COUNT TO 10 before you make yourself look like an idiot again. He never suggested you accept a flaw, he said that repeatedly doing the same thing and expecting a different result is not the best idea. Obviously you want the device, but instead of complaining about it here, which will do absolutely freaking nothing, why not take a breath and waiting a week? Rapid fire returns sure haven't worked for you yet.
Yawn....
Every device has growing pains the the N7 is no different... Google botched the pre-orders and they have a manufacturing issue to correct...
I will TRY and make this simple...
Let say Google had 10 million produced before they correct the manufacturing process / defect.. Now lets say they sold 5 million... That leaves 5 million defective units still on shelves / in stock...
You can continue to exchange it until the cows come home and guess what? Your replacement is going to come from the defective (read: in stock) pile until the defect is corrected and the originally shipped (read: defective) units have been depleted...
Save yourself the headache, stress, tantrums and wait a few months for the issue to be resolved and the fixed units to become the in stock norm...
If the unit has an issue that prevents it from functioning then that's another matter... Slight screen raise is not one of those... Keep on replacing it and keep getting the same (read: originally manufactured defect) unit in the mail... It's your headache not mine and I'm not the one throwing a tantrum in an online forum..
I will wait a few months and exchange mine once Google has resolved the issue and the in stock tablets are that of the fixed variety...
My .02
Solange82200 said:
Same here, my second replacement is good, glad i did it instead of putting up with a creaky raised screen
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Same for me. I contemplated not returning it to Office Depot but I ran by there at lunch and swapped for this one which appears good so far.
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Learn to read....
I said nothing about a defect being acceptable..
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You said you are fine with screen lift. Screen lift is a defect.
Just received my order of two 16GBs yesterday. The first one (for myself) has a black dot between the screen and the glass, right in the middle. I tried to live with it but its very distracting especially on a light background.
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
I'm very disappointed with the QC of the N4. So much for fighting through orders and shipping
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Just received my order of two 16GBs yesterday. The first one (for myself) has a black dot between the screen and the glass, right in the middle. I tried to live with it but its very distracting especially on a light background.
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
I'm very disappointed with the QC of the N4. So much for fighting through orders and shipping
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Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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will they charge him restocking fee as mentioned in google play store under refunds?
send me the flashing red one plz
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if you really happy with the phone, give google a call explain the defect they will send
replacement pretty fast like 3 days, they actually have stock just for defect so u wont wait weeks for it.. and the best part is you dont have to ship yours first they ship it
once u get it u can ship yours.. good luck
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Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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If they had a higher price I wouldn't of had to upgrade!
Dang it Google!
I will probably do an RMA since the phone is awesome...when it works.
Where can I find the number to call Google?
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if you really happy with the phone, give google a call explain the defect they will send
replacement pretty fast like 3 days, they actually have stock just for defect so u wont wait weeks for it.. and the best part is you dont have to ship yours first they ship it
once u get it u can ship yours.. good luck
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There's quite a few of us RMA people still waiting for ours to be shipped. Been a week
So did you get a replacement ?
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There's quite a few of us RMA people still waiting for ours to be shipped. Been a week
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Hmm that's weird. Got mine 3 days after calling called Monday received it Thursday
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phositadc said:
Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
ogrillion said:
I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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Of course the price is connected with quality check, but man, let the truth enlighten you: the number of posts regarding defects would be way smaller; take HTC for example (or iPhone, I AM IN NO WAY AN APPLE FANBOY, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY APPLE THING )
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Of course the price is connected with quality check, but man, let the truth enlighten you: the number of posts regarding defects would be way smaller; take HTC for example (or iPhone, I AM IN NO WAY AN APPLE FANBOY, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY APPLE THING )
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Yeah I agree if they had charged us an extra $150 each I think they could have done at least something to improve the quality and reduce defects. Of course, knowing Google they probably would have just given us the middle finger, kept the extra cash, and sent out defective products anyways.
Sad. But that's now my impression of Google.
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phositadc said:
Yeah I agree if they had charged us an extra $150 each I think they could have done at least something to improve the quality and reduce defects. Of course, knowing Google they probably would have just given us the middle finger, kept the extra cash, and sent out defective products anyways.
Sad. But that's now my impression of Google.
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Not sure why you think that, but OK.
ogrillion said:
I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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Of course quality control affects price. QC can be very labor intensive($$$), from just auditing the boards and components at various levels of production, to scrap (throwing away defective product $$$) or rework (labor intensive $$$) of product with defects. I speak from experience here. No doubt QC suffered in order to offer the Nexus 4 at this price. Of course, it probably didn't suffer as much as it might have from other manufactures, as Google does not have to make money on the device itself as they can rake in the money from the Play store.
I mean, I love that I am able to purchase such a high end device for $299/349, but I think we really have to worry about what this will do to the rest of the Android ecosystem. Amazon has already been putting the hurt on everybody (other than Apple) in the tablet market with their Fire tablets (again, they can make money from the Amazon app store, and other content), and now Google is putting the Squeeze on everybody else with the Nexus 4, the Nexus 7, and the Nexus 10.
Competition is good for everybody, but if only Apple, Amazon and Google can make money due to owning the content stores, then that's a bad omen for the industry IMHO. But I digress.
You know I see everyone blaming Google when Google didn't make the hardware. They only did the software. I saw this coming when then announced LG was the hardware OEM. They have never been known for outstanding hardware.
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zelendel said:
You know I see everyone blaming Google when Google didn't make the hardware. They only did the software. I saw this coming when then announced LG was the hardware OEM. They have never been known for outstanding hardware.
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Google was the supervisor of the whole project. Google selected LG. If you think the phone is perfect, Google deserves most of the credit. If you think it sucks, Google deserves much of the blame.
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Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
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Have you tried charging it on a pc?
Plug it into USB port of computer and leave for half hour.
This happens on a few android devices when fully discharged and pc charging is the only way to do it sometimes.
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I've got an rma out for mine for a similar issue, there's a black squiggly line going across my camera lens...seems like it's probably stuck between my camera lens and the glass. Not a huge deal, but definitely an annoyance to have to send it back, especially after unlocking and rooting it.
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I'm inclined to believe that offering these Nexus devices at such a low price has resulted in quality control going out the window, as well as warranty. The Nexus 4 seems to have a lot of issues and the Nexus 7 has had its fair share as well.
I had a Nexus 7 and the first one I got had a washed out screen and the well known screen lift on the left side so I exchanged it and my second one only had screen lift as well but to a much lesser degree so I kept it. A couple months go by and I go to pick it up off my table, placing my thumb on that left side and the screen cracked from one side to the other, leaving the top portion unresponsive to touch. I called up both ASUS and Google and neither would do anything about it.
That experience and what I'm seeing here about the Nexus 4 has resulted in me losing faith in Nexus devices, which sucks because I loved the Galaxy Nexus and was really looking forward to this year's Nexus phone.
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I'm inclined to believe that offering these Nexus devices at such a low price has resulted in quality control going out the window, as well as warranty. The Nexus 4 seems to have a lot of issues and the Nexus 7 has had its fair share as well.
I had a Nexus 7 and the first one I got had a washed out screen and the well known screen lift on the left side so I exchanged it and my second one only had screen lift as well but to a much lesser degree so I kept it. A couple months go by and I go to pick it up off my table, placing my thumb on that left side and the screen cracked from one side to the other, leaving the top portion unresponsive to touch. I called up both ASUS and Google and neither would do anything about it.
That experience and what I'm seeing here about the Nexus 4 has resulted in me losing faith in Nexus devices, which sucks because I loved the Galaxy Nexus and was really looking forward to this year's Nexus phone.
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Agree completely. My nexus 7 had screen lift issues but I didn't care enough to RMA. Maybe I should have, though, because it completely died while charging last week, and now I have no choice but to RMA.
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Hi everyone, i would like to share a experience i've had with both of my nexus 4 ordered from the google play with you other n4 possessors.
This is not a troubleshooting topic it's just a kind of survey i'm doing.
I've received my nexus 4 in december, and i noticed there was something going on with the display, some horizontal lines stayed on the screen while i was swiping the homescreen or changing image/scrolling webpages. Then after a while i noticed there was a dark horizontal line on the left side of the screen.This line doesn't appear on white images, it can be seen more on grey or dark backgrounds, e.g. put the 4th default wallpaper and scroll all the way to the left and you should be able to see it. Also, this line became more and more marked on the screen depending on the temperature of the battery, e.g. while charging or playing heavy games or flash player. I called google play ordered a replacement and i got it the day after, turn it on, install all my apps, and the line was STILL there, also on the new device.
My question is, am I so unlucky that i've received 2 faulted devices from google or everyone has this problem? can anyone please check?
P.s. put brightness to the maximum when checking.
where is this line appearing i cant understand
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where is this line appearing i cant understand
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On the left of the screen, horizontal dark line, it can be seen better on a gray or dark image, such as the wallpaper i suggested
The line actually appears when I'm swiping away recent apps..hadn't noticed until now. It could probably be fixed with switching roms though. I'm on JD's perfect android right now. This is my 3rd nexus device, no problems on it, 303k.
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justin11141 said:
The line actually appears when I'm swiping away recent apps..hadn't noticed until now. It could probably be fixed with switching roms though. I'm on JD's perfect android right now. This is my 3rd nexus device, no problems on it, 303k.
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Thanks for checking justin, can you also check it again when the battery gets warmer? like just play a heavy 3d game or charge the phone. it should be more marked, sometimes i can even see it over my power control widget :crying:
Yeah my line is different I believe, I put the phone to charge and put on grand theft auto. Nothing really appeared.
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Anyone else willing to check their displays and help me out?
Are you sure you don't mean vertical line? on the left side.
If so then yes mine has it.
I can't see any line on my display
oh god guys i meant Vertical..meangreenie is right.. sorry everyone, i mean vertical line on the left of the screen!
I've got 2 vertical lines on both sides of the screen (left and right) and they're not that much visible but they're always there. IT just looks as if those sides were a little bit dimmer than the rest of the screen.
I have same problem on my n4,there's grey line on left screen which more visible when the device getting heat..is it possible to disappear by itself after few time?or should i claim my warranty?thx before and sorry for my bad english
Guys I'm having the same issue. Should I claim my warranty? Or any solution to make it disappear? For me this is a very costly phone and I don't wanna take any risks. I can see the line in most apps even in chrome while typing in address bar the window greys out. At that time its perfectly visible. Its jus 1 month old n now I'm **** scared
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Guys please help
I'm glad I caught this thread. I bought a refurbished Nokia wireless charging plate. I didn't have the good sense to check XDA first, and sure enough the thing has compatibility issues. I thought I'd just leave it on the plate overnight to settle in as some people have suggested, and after about an hour my screen was violently flashing on and off with pronounced vertical lines over the screen (discoloration, not a line of pixels). After a while the lines mostly faded, but I can still see them just as described in this thread when I pull down the notification tray or open any app with a grey background (like the gallery).
I just got an RMA today. I'm wondering whether we've all experienced power issues or if I just didn't notice the lines until I was looking for them.
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I'm glad I caught this thread. I bought a refurbished Nokia wireless charging plate. I didn't have the good sense to check XDA first, and sure enough the thing has compatibility issues. I thought I'd just leave it on the plate overnight to settle in as some people have suggested, and after about an hour my screen was violently flashing on and off with pronounced vertical lines over the screen (discoloration, not a line of pixels). After a while the lines mostly faded, but I can still see them just as described in this thread when I pull down the notification tray or open any app with a grey background (like the gallery).
I just got an RMA today. I'm wondering whether we've all experienced power issues or if I just didn't notice the lines until I was looking for them.
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Is the replacement normal?? There is no other way to solve this problem ??
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Is the replacement normal?? There is no other way to solve this problem ??
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I'm not so sure that this is even a problem that an RMA is going to fix. Like I said, I only noticed it when I was looking for it. Might just be a charactaristic of a batch of panels, more like a light leak than damage.
However, if it is damage there is no way you're fixing it without an RMA. It's clearly not a software level issue.
I thought I was the only one. Mine has it but I barely notice it anymore.
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I have same problem on my n4,there's grey line on left screen which more visible when the device getting heat..is it possible to disappear by itself after few time?or should i claim my warranty?thx before and sorry for my bad english
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hi... User from my local forum had same problem with You, 1 vertical grey line on left side of screen.. it only appear when screen start getting heat and temporary disappear after long idle.. but he said after 2-3 months that line disappear permanently by it self... maybe it is some kind of glue...?
Been using my nexus 4 for a month and noticed this just a few hours ago. Scared the **** out of me and still am. But just to confirm, this is common on our phone....right?
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I also have it on my phone . I noticed that abt a week or two ago. But now it is getting better, not that dark now as it was when phone was quite warm.
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I contemplated not writing this. In tech sometimes we require so much perfection, we forget what's actually important to us. Furthermore we forget that any software issue can be conquered by the great devs here at XDA. With the fear of sounding hypocritical, here's why I found myself going back to the HTC One after a short two week affair with the S4.
I had very real issues with my silver HTC One. The S4 was the answer to those issues. After a couple weeks with the S4 I really missed one thing about the HTC One - the camera. I have 2 babies and after missing several pictures of them over the past couple weeks I became very frustrated with the slow launch and slow picture taking of the S4. I was enjoying all the other features but this was beginning to stick in my crawl. So I really researched the issues I was having with the HTC One. I found out that the brightness quick toggle was solved through Viper Rom and menu button was easily mapped to a short hold of the back button.
Now I had a problem because I was torn between going back to the HTC one (most of which for me all had build issues) or staying with the S4 and waiting for developement to speed up camera and some of the overall lag I was experiencing. So I went out to Best Buy and decided to check out a black HTC One. I don't know if it's simply because the manufacturing was updated or refined but it was perfect. Zero gaps, seemless bezel and no dead or stuck pixels. Having only one trade left at best buy I made the leap and swapped back to the HTC One. I think this was a great decision. Again a big factor was the camera, being able to post edit my shots - remove people from the background and make a drama shot without having to put it in that mode before shooting the picture is really fast and convenient. I in one day caught 3 great pictures that I would have needed to adjust settings on BEFORE taking with the S4. Pictures I think I would have missed with the S4. Also I didn't realize how different (brighter and somewhat crisper) the HTC One screen was. There will of course be sacrifices with the HTC One, no swappable battery, awkward placement of power button and no multi-window. But, the tradeoff is one I'm ok with. Black HTC One made the difference for me.
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Welcome back, I think?
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No offense, but wall of text is extremely hard to read.
Welcome back, I think?
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Thanks, I broke it up a little. I honestly am glad to be back. I had some issues with the HTC one and panicked a little but with this new one I'm definitely enjoying HTC and especially glad to have ZOE back. It's really a standout feature.
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Thanks, I broke it up a little. I honestly am glad to be back. I had some issues with the HTC one and panicked a little but with this new one I'm definitely enjoying HTC and especially glad to have ZOE back. It's really a standout feature.
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Don't feel bad my man. I was in the same situation as you. It was just something about this HTC One.
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I'm currently in panic mode trying to figure out what to do with my silver One. Thanks for the great post.
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Morghan said:
I'm currently in panic mode trying to figure out what to do with my silver One. Thanks for the great post.
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...and why is that?
I am about to end my remorse period and am 50-50 on the phone. Love it but gets too hot and eats too much battery sometimes (I'm a light user). I like it but I also got a SGS4 for my friend and I keep staring at it...
So, why panic mode? Thinking of returning... or?
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I'm currently in panic mode trying to figure out what to do with my silver One. Thanks for the great post.
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Glad I can help. This has been a hard decision for me but I'm glad to finally settle with the HTC One and think I've made the best decision for me.
In my opinion, figure out a way to swap for the black. I don't know if it's because of a refined manufacturing process, Better materials or what - but the difference between the two colors is night and day. No misfires pushing the back or home buttons and no gaps anywhere. I'll post pics when I get home. If you bought from sprint and go in to change color they'll charge a restocking fee. I would recommend pointing out a flaw with the silver (I'm sure you probably have one) and ask to change to a black one as you have heard reports of better assembly and less issues. If you bought from Best Buy or the like you can swap without fee's. That's why I almost exclusively by phones from Best Buy now.
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Glad I can help. This has been a hard decision for me but I'm glad to finally settle with the HTC One and think I've made the best decision for me.
In my opinion, figure out a way to swap for the black. I don't know if it's because of a refined manufacturing process, Better materials or what - but the difference between the two colors is night and day. No misfires pushing the back or home buttons and no gaps anywhere. I'll post pics when I get home. If you bought from sprint and go in to change color they'll charge a restocking fee. I would recommend pointing out a flaw with the silver (I'm sure you probably have one) and ask to change to a black one as you have heard reports of better assembly and less issues. If you bought from Best Buy or the like you can swap without fee's. That's why I almost exclusively by phones from Best Buy now.
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I agree, Best Buy was the way to go for me. Ended up getting data error 104 all the time on my first one.....exchanged the phone 6 times per sprint techs requests before I figured out they had my SIM ID incorrect on my account. The One (silver) I have is absolutely perfect now.
If I got my HTC one online, can I exchange at best buy?
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If I got my HTC one online, can I exchange at best buy?
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if you got it from Best Buy online then yes
I spent less then a week with the S4 before I gave in to my overwhelming felling of missing an HTC device. I liked some of the features but the phone just felt cheap and the Sprint service in my area doesn't seem to play well with Samsung Phones. Lots of dropped calls and frequent signal fluctuations. Love the ONE very happy I made the switch...