hi guys
i hope i can explain what's happening in correct english, if i make some mistakes please forgive me
i've got a big problem with my one
when i start the camera app, and it happens EVERY TIME, the camera takes a long time to begin "responding" to my commands
i'll try to explain
i start the camera
the camera begins to focus all the way out, then come back all the way in, and THEN if i tap it will correctly focus on the object i tapped on
if i tap before all this, it just doesn't focus
so i have to wait several seconds to begin "shooting" photos, and this happens anytime i will start the camera app
with the night or in low light, the problem is even bigger taking betweet 5 to 10 second to be "operative"
i've made a video on this problem but please be advised i've used an iphone in one hand while having the htc in the other, so i don't know if you can see exactly what happens
it's normal or it's my one that is faulty?
PS: i had this problem with stock 1.28 and now i have the trickrom 3.5 ( based on 1.29 ) and the issue is still here
in the video you can see that i try to focus on the electronic cigs without success... i will reach to focus around 0:24
looks like your lens isnt moving to focus.. have u tried sending it in?
shiningarmor said:
looks like your lens isnt moving to focus.. have u tried sending it in?
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yes it works but after 5-10 seconds... then it focus correctly on anything i tap on
sending it in you mean in warranty? i imported the phone.... would be really a mess to send it
HTC doesn't care. You can send it in teo HTC USA and they will take care of it. I had a international ONE X that had different processor housing etc... and they took care of it no problem.
nullkill said:
HTC doesn't care. You can send it in teo HTC USA and they will take care of it. I had a international ONE X that had different processor housing etc... and they took care of it no problem.
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this is interesting
i'm in italy but i don't want to be without the phone right now so i think i'll wait
in the meantime let's see if someone other has got the same problem :-/
sorry for the up but... i'm the only one with this problem? :-/
Could be a hardware issue. Some early devices has a focusing problem.
same here mine doesn't focus good, i might bring it back to the t-mobile store where i bought it
I'm having the same problem on the canadian version of the HTC One. Did you guys found a fix?
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Hi everybody,
Today I started the barcode scanner app, it showd the picture from the camera for 1 second and suddenly became broken in a way that it no longer shows the picture but a pink "snow" or "lines" kinda like you get on the tv when you lose a signal.
It wasn't just the barcode scanner though, it was also the original camera app that showed the same affect.
I tried a few restarts and even returned to an earlier nand backup I did this morning.
But, non of it helped.
I have CM 7.1 .
Bought it almost 2 years ago, but still not ready to let go, even if some things are starting to be slow.
I recently also changed the max clock speed through CM settings to 1113MHZ so that things would go smoother.
Is there anything to do to fix this besides replacing the sensor?
If not, is it the sensor that is the problem here? Do you think I can still find that part on ebay or something?
Thanks
Update:
Here's a picture of what the camera app shows:
h**p://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4930/photo00001r.jpg
What phone do you have?
My old phone (HTC EVO, no 3D) had the same problem. The screen went pink in whatever camera app I was using. You might want to wait a few days and see if it fixes itself. Otherwise I think you should visit the shop where you bought it.
Depending on the cost, you should decide if you want to fix it yourself. (with the risk of losing warranty and not fixing anything at all.)
I bought it 2 years ago at a small shop, they gave me an already rooted phone with 1 year warranty.
Anyway, I already voided whatever I could with rooting, flashing roms and recoveries and changing the back covers of the phone
It's the europe (GSM) version of the nexus one. I think the same one you would get from buying directly from google.
btw, I posted a link in the orginal post to a picture that will show how it looks.
Sorry, false alarm.
Just got the battery out and back in and that solved the problem.
Thanks for your help though
Ah. Good to hear that!
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Hi!
I am using HTC ONE about 10 days. No drops, no hits against walls or anything. 5 minutes ago wanted to take a picture and suddenly focus went "offline"
Camera makes that noise when you are focusing, but nothing happens. I rebooted phone, but nothing changed.
Am I the first one with this problem?
Solutions?
Thanks!
edit: factory reset did not help
I think the problem is optical image stabilization which is/are jammed. I don't hear that "click" sound when starting camera app. That click sound means that IS started to work.
sorry for my bad grammar. Not my native language.
gjirts said:
Hi!
I am using HTC ONE about 10 days. No drops, no hits against walls or anything. 5 minutes ago wanted to take a picture and suddenly focus went "offline"
Camera makes that noise when you are focusing, but nothing happens. I rebooted phone, but nothing changed.
Am I the first one with this problem?
Solutions?
Thanks!
edit: factory reset did not help
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Hi Please see my post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288668&page=3
same problem...This might be big issue
I think my problem is different. After night I realized that if I don't use ONE for several hours than focus works for ~5 sec. I start Camera app and can focus one time. When camera focus then image stays sharp for like 5 sec and then goes all blur. And after that focus is not working and I'm back to where I started. So everythink works for like 5 sec and then all goes wrong. After some hours I can focus one more time and again - all stops after some seconds. First time I see something like that.
I've got the same problem. I honestly think the only solution is to exchange for a new phone.
try change iso manually
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I've got the same problem. I honestly think the only solution is to exchange for a new phone.
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I had the same problem and tried to play with the Iso settings,and i change it manually on 200,and it worked for me,now it focuses on a landscape photo just well.in the indoors,i let iso automatic and it focuses fine,i guess is a software issue,and they'll solved it with the next update
throw the phone very hard onto your bed. that should unjam the sensor
Got the same problem. Got worse over time. Now it won't focus at all.
There's no other way than send it to repair. Hope I don't get problems with the unlocked bootloader...
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Got the same problem. Got worse over time. Now it won't focus at all.
There's no other way than send it to repair. Hope I don't get problems with the unlocked bootloader...
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Your name seems german. My One with unlocked bootloader didn't get repaired + I had to pay 30€ for sending a bootloader-opened phone.. be careful.
uZzY94 said:
Your name seems german. My One with unlocked bootloader didn't get repaired + I had to pay 30€ for sending a bootloader-opened phone.. be careful.
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Yes, the phone is gonna go to htc Germany Hope they fix it. As long as there is no S-off, I have no other chance than hope.
I already have been anxiously following the S-off announcement ("very soon "). But time goes by and there is no s-off yet
Well, let's keep fingers crossed.
Neuer_User said:
Yes, the phone is gonna go to htc Germany Hope they fix it. As long as there is no S-off, I have no other chance than hope.
I already have been anxiously following the S-off announcement ("very soon "). But time goes by and there is no s-off yet
Well, let's keep fingers crossed.
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Well I sent it too from germany (o2), repairing company is Arvato. Arvato declines repairing when bootloader is open...
Well, I had long discussions with HTC because here in Switzerland HTC only offers three days of DOA, while Samsung, Apple, Nokia and other all have 14 days.
I noticed the camera problem (which got worse over time) on the 5th day, so out of DOA. I finally got them to accept to exchange the phone on DOA terms. So, the phone probably goes to HTC directly, hopefully not to some repair company.
But considering your case: Germany has much more consumer friendly laws than Switzerland. I am pretty sure, the seller needs to prove (!) that you are responsible for the defect within the first 6 months. Otherwise be must repair the phone. I think an unlocked bootloader is no proof that you have damaged the camera. I would talk with them and tell them that they must abide to the law. It should be must easier than here in Switzerland.
gjirts said:
Hi!
I am using HTC ONE about 10 days. No drops, no hits against walls or anything. 5 minutes ago wanted to take a picture and suddenly focus went "offline"
Camera makes that noise when you are focusing, but nothing happens. I rebooted phone, but nothing changed.
Am I the first one with this problem?
Solutions?
Thanks!
edit: factory reset did not help
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One thig I have found - once the battery charge is 25% or above, autofocus starts working. Checkitout
IINexusII said:
throw the phone very hard onto your bed. that should unjam the sensor
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people scoff at this, but when my focus gets jammed I give it a sharp whack on the back and then it focuses again. Doesn't work every time but there is nothing else to do.
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Router said:
One thig I have found - once the battery charge is 25% or above, autofocus starts working. Checkitout
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I can confirm this still happens some times above 90% battery, I think this is unrelated
hello i have the same problem
after i dropped my phone camera cannot focus on far objects then 15cm.
object further then 15 cm are blurry.
factory reset didnt help.
Same issue! I've posted a bit about it in Page 10 of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45010584
Does anyone with a Google Play Edition ROM have this issue? A user of XDA suggested that it is possibly only affecting AOSP ROM users.
I spoke to someone at HTC here in the UK and he basically said that they have NO grounds to refuse to repair it under warranty if the fault you return it for is not caused by something you have done, either damage or by unlocking and flashing. I think they are out of order to charge you to repair a phone that is faulty when you unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do with the fault.
I just sent mine back because the shots were all blurred unless doing macros. I had the same issue as a previous poster aswell, the click when you open the camera only happened about once every dozen or so times I opened it, even then the shots were still blurred. I sent it back with a relocked bootloader, stock ROM and tampered flag still present and they have repaired mine and I'm awaiting its return from UPS.
sky autatis
AllAboutTheCore said:
I spoke to someone at HTC here in the UK and he basically said that they have NO grounds to refuse to repair it under warranty if the fault you return it for is not caused by something you have done, either damage or by unlocking and flashing. I think they are out of order to charge you to repair a phone that is faulty when you unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do with the fault.
I just sent mine back because the shots were all blurred unless doing macros. I had the same issue as a previous poster aswell, the click when you open the camera only happened about once every dozen or so times I opened it, even then the shots were still blurred. I sent it back with a relocked bootloader, stock ROM and tampered flag still present and they have repaired mine and I'm awaiting its return from UPS.
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When you find out what was fixed can you let us know? And if it actually fixed the issue?
Just been reading this as I have the same problem. No close focus for me, but far focus was ok-ish. Gave it a few slaps on my thigh and it seems to be more or less ok again for normal focus conditions, although anything under 30cm distance isn't going to focus at all. It's been driving me mad for weeks now.
HTC One Kamera problem
Neuer_User said:
Got the same problem. Got worse over time. Now it won't focus at all.
There's no other way than send it to repair. Hope I don't get problems with the unlocked bootloader...
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Hi! Am living in Germany as well. Could you get any answer from HTC service?
I am having an issue with my standard htc one.
When i am on calls the person on the other end is saying that i sound very quite. I have had this with a couple of different people i have called.
The phone is a brand new replacement from o2.
I at first thought it was due to the case i have on the phone blocking the mic however having removed the case and tried another test call the problem is still there.
Any suggestions of what to try or why this is
anyone else had this?
thanks
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I am having an issue with my standard htc one.
When i am on calls the person on the other end is saying that i sound very quite. I have had this with a couple of different people i have called.
The phone is a brand new replacement from o2.
I at first thought it was due to the case i have on the phone blocking the mic however having removed the case and tried another test call the problem is still there.
Any suggestions of what to try or why this is
anyone else had this?
thanks
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Call your provider reps and get another new model...
Just had it replaced by o2 as the last one had a random vibrating and overheating issue.
Getting fed up with constantly having to change this one....seems to be one problem after another.
Any possible fix or cause?
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hpsauce37 said:
Just had it replaced by o2 as the last one had a random vibrating and overheating issue.
Getting fed up with constantly having to change this one....seems to be one problem after another.
Any possible fix or cause?
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Are u on stock or did u flash any Rom or custom kernel?
99piotrek said:
Are u on stock or did u flash any Rom or custom kernel?
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no completely stock
the phone was purchased on o2 contract by a friend who then didnt like it/get on with it so i bought it off him. The phone i received had an issue with random vibrating so he returned it for a brand new replacement.
All i have done is unlocked the phone (by code) so i can use it on my network which is 3
it would seem that the htc one seems to be plagued with a number of different issues and no sooner than you manage to sort one out by exchanging it you end up with another problem!
Its getting very frustrating as i so want to like this phone....the first phones i had (bought sim free) had issues with captive buttons and build quality which led me to change back to an iphone.
After a couple of months decided to try the htc one again in the hope that all the early issues were resolved and here we are again with yet different problems.
i had this issue too, i think its related to Radio and Firmware,
just flash 2.24 and see if it fixes it, if not try ARHD 12.1 (With Wipe)
Muhammad.Muayad said:
i had this issue too, i think its related to Radio and Firmware,
just flash 2.24 and see if it fixes it, if not try ARHD 12.1 (With Wipe)
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glad its not just me then, was yours an o2 one also?
really hope it can be sorted by firmware....can you tell me which firmware yo put on yours please..a link would be great
im guessing i have to unlock the bootloader and put a recovery and root again? i did this with the last one to try and resolve the random vibrating issue however that turned out to be a hardware problem
I have read some issue about problems with the mics on the phone just wish there was a way to be sure before flashing just in case i have to send it to htc to get sorted...would rather avoid sending away though
thanks for the help
hpsauce37 said:
glad its not just me then, was yours an o2 one also?
really hope it can be sorted by firmware....can you tell me which firmware yo put on yours please..a link would be great
im guessing i have to unlock the bootloader and put a recovery and root again? i did this with the last one to try and resolve the random vibrating issue however that turned out to be a hardware problem
I have read some issue about problems with the mics on the phone just wish there was a way to be sure before flashing just in case i have to send it to htc to get sorted...would rather avoid sending away though
thanks for the help
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just locked on my phone and it says the software is 2.24.206.1 so does this mean that it must be a hardware issue or is it still worth flashing something?
Hej, had the same problem and thought it would be the rom (cm-10.1-20130706-NIGHTLY-m7ul).
Well, it became apparent that it was the genuine HTC double flip case, who seemed to cover the micro just next to the micro usb connection.
Xayden said:
Hej, had the same problem and thought it would be the rom (cm-10.1-20130706-NIGHTLY-m7ul).
Well, it became apparent that it was the genuine HTC double flip case, who seemed to cover the micro just next to the micro usb connection.
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thats why i thought it might be the case however the problem is the same with the case removed (poetic case) so dont think its that. I just dont want to unlock bootloader etc and risk messing up my return to htc if it is definatley a hardware issue.
Getting really annoying this now though as the rest of the phone is perfect, build, captive buttons, ear speaker etc
Yeah, seems to be a good idea not to mess around with roms while the device itself ain't running as it should.
Just had a look at the poetic case and the hole for the micro seems rather big, so it seems unlikely that this is the problem.
How about the hole being filled by like, dirt? Just had to think about my htc one. Sometimes the speaker grill is filled with some tobacco leftovers who float around in the same pocket as in which I put the phone. Even though it seems rather unlikely, no possibility should be left unregarded.
Xayden said:
Yeah, seems to be a good idea not to mess around with roms while the device itself ain't running as it should.
Just had a look at the poetic case and the hole for the micro seems rather big, so it seems unlikely that this is the problem.
How about the hole being filled by like, dirt? Just had to think about my htc one. Sometimes the speaker grill is filled with some tobacco leftovers who float around in the same pocket as in which I put the phone. Even though it seems rather unlikely, no possibility should be left unregarded.
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thanks again
i have considered the possibility of the mic hole being blocked although the phone is only a day old. I am pretty sure though that the phones supplied by o2 to replace faulty phones are actually reconditioned phones so it is possible that could be fluff or blocked, On looking it does seem that the hole for the mic is rather small and i am wondering if that in the machining process that maybe that holes is not opened up as much as it should be or is not clean....think i might try opening the hole abit using the sim ejecting tool or a pin. Just a bit concerned about the possibility of damaging the mic but then if it is faulty anyway then i guess i have nothing to lose.
will report back in a bit
hpsauce37 said:
glad its not just me then, was yours an o2 one also?
really hope it can be sorted by firmware....can you tell me which firmware yo put on yours please..a link would be great
im guessing i have to unlock the bootloader and put a recovery and root again? i did this with the last one to try and resolve the random vibrating issue however that turned out to be a hardware problem
I have read some issue about problems with the mics on the phone just wish there was a way to be sure before flashing just in case i have to send it to htc to get sorted...would rather avoid sending away though
thanks for the help
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i had 2.19 running 4.1.2 then i upgraded to 4.2.2 and 2.24 ARHD 12.1, the Proximity sensor is fixed and call quality has been improved but sometime it gets bad.
as for O2, i am running M7 unlocked (international)
here is the Link, just flash this ROM (Firmware, Radio, and OS is included) "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023"
Ok so I have tried to make the Mic hole bigger/clean it out and and first couple of test calls it seemed it improved it. However it seems almost now like the problem is intermittent as other calls have shown the problem to still be there, this is really getting frustrating now.
Can it really be software related? Is there anymore conclusive tests I can do to help identify the problem.
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Ok so I have tried to make the Mic hole bigger/clean it out and and first couple of test calls it seemed it improved it. However it seems almost now like the problem is intermittent as other calls have shown the problem to still be there, this is really getting frustrating now.
Can it really be software related? Is there anymore conclusive tests I can do to help identify the problem.
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BUMPPPP!
I got this problem all of a sudden
Did you solve the problem op?
I've isolated my problem to the bottom mic, cause recording videos is mainly fine (guessing it records only with one of the mics now though) and when I put it on speakerphone it works. However when I take a normal call, or use gnow it doesn not really register. When I really yell it comes through softly.
People on the other side of the phone can't hear me well, I have a feeling something's stuck in my mic port
Thanks
Hello
I have a problem with my Htc One. Someone had this problem? (when i zoom in camera)
1/ http://hpics.li/d46ad94
2/ http://hpics.li/8ff1391
3/ http://hpics.li/0b9d54b
when I print the picture, it appears too.
My htc is in after-sales service. I'm wait answer.
Thanks in advance (and sorry for my bad English).
no need to think too much. send it back to store, it's faulty. I had a faulty one with a ghost spot and switched to a new one.
Yes, agreed. That's not software.
Yes I think is not software but hardware.
You think HTC will change just the camera or I'll have a new device ?
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Yes I think is not software but hardware.
You think HTC will change just the camera or I'll have a new device ?
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take it back to the store you bought it from and they should swap it. If you bought it recently.
otherwise you'd have to send it to HTC for warranty repairs, and they'd probably take it apart and just swap the camera out.
Hello guys! I have a question
Is it worth to buy this phone? I start to think this phone is good (and looks like old htc sensation xe its cool) but then i saw its not really popular...
As i saw Venom had only one rom for it (but they dont want to update the rom) [not sure because its perfect or they dont care anymore]
I think soon i'll buy a new phone cause my phone start to kill me.... So what u guys think? worth to buy?
This phone unpopular cuz m8 or unpopular cuz bad phone?
Thanks for the answers!
[And sorry for my bad grammar]
princesama1 said:
Hello guys! I have a question
Is it worth to buy this phone? I start to think this phone is good (and looks like old htc sensation xe its cool) but then i saw its not really popular...
As i saw Venom had only one rom for it (but they dont want to update the rom) [not sure because its perfect or they dont care anymore]
I think soon i'll buy a new phone cause my phone start to kill me.... So what u guys think? worth to buy?
This phone unpopular cuz m8 or unpopular cuz bad phone?
Thanks for the answers!
[And sorry for my bad grammar]
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Personally, I am very happy with the purchase. The phone itself is fantastic. The problem, IMO, is marketing. This phone came out shortly after M7 and only for Asian markets. M7 was the international flagship that received all the attention and this one was left in the shadow.
This means that you won't find many ROMs or other stuff for this phone, but personally, I don't mind this, I think it's just fine even with the stock system with a few small modifications.
Thanks for the answer! Then i think if i'll have money i'll buy this phone
[Long time ago my senastion xe died and this phone looks like same but better]
Is there something that you dont like in this phone?
Laggs/Freeze/ bad game support/ "heat if u use too much"? or anything?
princesama1 said:
Thanks for the answer! Then i think if i'll have money i'll buy this phone
[Long time ago my senastion xe died and this phone looks like same but better]
Is there something that you dont like in this phone?
Laggs/Freeze/ bad game support/ "heat if u use too much"? or anything?
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Well, there are a few things, such as the battery drain in Android 4.4, but I fixed that on my phone. Then there's the inconvenient placement of the power button (it's somewhat difficult to reach at the very top of the phone), but there's also a kernel for that.
Also, there's the purple camera issue, which is apparently a hardware problem and the only way to get it fixed is to send your phone to a service center to get the camera replaced. Mine does that too and I haven't found the time/motivation to send the phone for a repair yet; I don't use the camera that often.
Finally, there's a slight backlight bleed from the capacitive buttons. I hardly ever notice that, though, because you'll only see that at night when your screen is very dark and moreover you can dim the button backlight to reduce the effect.
Thanks for the answer!
"purple camera issue" its for your phone only or all phone may have this problem?
"slight backlight bleed from the capacitive buttons." I cant imagine this what is that?
http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_IMAG0838_c68bdcdc57.jpg like this? so mobil screeen lock but still light on buttons?
Same question: this is your phone ony or all phone have this?
These quiet big problems tho
princesama1 said:
Thanks for the answer!
"purple camera issue" its for your phone only or all phone may have this problem?
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This is a rather common issue with both the M7 and Butterfly S. Try to look around the forum, you'll find this has happened to a lot of people. Only today I have noticed mine started doing it too, which is too bad, since my warranty expired only a short while ago. I suppose I'll try to send it for a repair anyway, once I get a backup phone.
And since you don't seem to be familiar with this, it only happens in low light.
For reference, here are two pictures just snapped with my camera. In the first one you can only see a very subtle tint around the edges while the second one is almost entirely purple, with only a small change in the amount of light captured.
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"slight backlight bleed from the capacitive buttons." I cant imagine this what is that?
http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_IMAG0838_c68bdcdc57.jpg like this? so mobil screeen lock but still light on buttons?
Same question: this is your phone ony or all phone have this?
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When the screen is completely black and the capacitive buttons' backlight is on, you'll see a faint light near the bottom edge of the screen (from the direction of the buttons). It appears to happen with all phones, but as I said, it is only noticeable when the screen is completely black. I, for example, only see this for about a second after I turn the display off, because the buttons' backlight turns off with a slight delay.
Thanks! (its looks like a pic with instagram xD)
I think maybe ill wait for buying these kind of serious problems.
If you could buy this or m8 which would u choose?
At this point the HTC E8 is a much better buy if you can get it cheaper.
princesama1 said:
Thanks! (its looks like a pic with instagram xD)
I think maybe ill wait for buying these kind of serious problems.
If you could buy this or m8 which would u choose?
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At this point, I suppose I'd go with M8, but mostly because of the one-year difference.
By the way, I'll add one more thing about the purple camera problem – it has been reported numerous times that after replacing the camera the problem hasn't reappeared. Also, I suppose phones manufactured after a certain date shouldn't be affected by this, but this is just speculation on my part.
FYL21 said:
At this point the HTC E8 is a much better buy if you can get it cheaper.
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Yes, but keep in mind that the E8 is, again, not an international phone, but only for certain markets, so it's unlikely to get a lot of attention around here.
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Yes, but keep in mind that the E8 is, again, not an international phone, but only for certain markets, so it's unlikely to get a lot of attention around here.
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Yes I know, it depends where princesama1 is from. It's already been released in India, China, and has been announced for Taiwan and Russia. Except Russia, the Butterfly s was available in these markets.
They announced the J Butterfly today in Japan, it seems to be basically an E8 with dual 13MP cameras, waterproofing. Not sure if it has IR blaster or a bigger battery.
Thanks for the answers! If i'll have enough money probaly go with m8 (but with that i dont like that it dont have capacitive buttons only touch screen) if not ill go with Butterfly s