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[Q] What does the latest CM build (6.1.0) offer

Hi everyone,
I've never used an HTC Android before, although I've had a Galaxy S for a while now. Looking to get a Dream for my fiancee who's a total newbie to Android, and despite looking for answers a lot, I couldn't find what the latest CM build for G1 offers (or any other custom ROM). From what I've gathered, the G1 is severely constricted in its default form, and while it's evident that CyanogenMod is going to improve things a lot, what specifically is going to change.
My main questions:
The Android version?
Apps2SD?
Impact on camera?
Speed?
Battery life?
Touchscreen responsiveness?
Any other info that someone can highlight, regarding whether this decision is wise or not (considering that G1 is the only cellphone falling in my budget atm)?.
I found this link on CM forums, but didn't make much sense to me. Any help would be greatly appreciated

I use CM6.1 now mainly because it's a bit snappier than CM5. A major feature that's missing for me is apps2sdext. Native froyo apps2sd still puts the data of apps in internal memory so apps2ext lets you have a lot more apps installed.

I had CM6 installed on my G1 and i was pretty slow. I also had apps randomly close because I guess the phone was running out of memory. SuperD with ram hack was really fast for me and I've had it installed for the past 4 or 5 months and haven't had any issues until yesterday but IDK if its a software or a hardware problem.

[Q] What does the latest CM build (6.1.0) offer?

I had posted this in Q&A already, but didn't get a satisfying answer - I need to make my decision today so please forgive my wrong posting and help me out a bit - also. if CM isn't the right choice, please tell me what is and should I go for the G1 or not?
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Hi everyone,
I've never used an HTC Android before, although I've had a Galaxy S for a while now. Looking to get a Dream for my fiancee who's a total newbie to Android, and despite looking for answers a lot, I couldn't find what the latest CM build for G1 offers (or any other custom ROM). From what I've gathered, the G1 is severely constricted in its default form, and while it's evident that CyanogenMod is going to improve things a lot, what specifically is going to change.
My main questions:
The Android version?
Apps2SD?
Impact on camera?
Speed?
Battery life?
Touchscreen responsiveness?
Any other info that someone can highlight, regarding whether this decision is wise or not (considering that G1 is the only cellphone falling in my budget atm)?.
I found this link on CM forums, but didn't make much sense to me. Any help would be greatly appreciated

Isn't CM7 the latest?
You can get all the way up to the (almost) latest android. 2.3 as far as I've seen.
For ROMs I'd recommend SparksMod2.1.
A fresh battery can last you about two days if you toggle data/wifi/bluetooth controls off and on when you're not using them, and while running your SetCPU max @ 528 and your min @ 245.
I can pretty much answer all your questions by saying, perfect, as long as you have it setup right.

aussiehairspray said:
Isn't CM7 the latest?
You can get all the way up to the (almost) latest android. 2.3 as far as I've seen.
For ROMs I'd recommend SparksMod2.1.
A fresh battery can last you about two days if you toggle data/wifi/bluetooth controls off and on when you're not using them, and while running your SetCPU max @ 528 and your min @ 245.
I can pretty much answer all your questions by saying, perfect, as long as you have it setup right.
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Thank you for your response. I believe CM 6.1.0 is the current stable build, no idea about CM7 frankly. But it seems I can go for this device thanks again!

Nook Color cm7 performance

Hi,
Im looking for a cheap tablet to gift. After considering the choices, i see nook color fits the bill...
However, i noticed people complaing about some problems like choppy youtube, sleep of death problems, etc with cm7.. I want to know how bad it really is? is it worth buying over regular tablet? Thing is I'm prepared to take a chance, but im gifting it to someone who wont update to latest ROM by himself..so i want to know if cm7 is stable on NC for regular stuff like games browsing, youtube etc...
Also how is the impact of overclocking on battery..is it able to give 6-7 hour runtime on 1.2ghz on interactive governer?

Mafioso said:
Hi,
Im looking for a cheap tablet to gift. After considering the choices, i see nook color fits the bill...
However, i noticed people complaing about some problems like choppy youtube, sleep of death problems, etc with cm7.. I want to know how bad it really is? is it worth buying over regular tablet? Thing is I'm prepared to take a chance, but im gifting it to someone who wont update to latest ROM by himself..so i want to know if cm7 is stable on NC for regular stuff like games browsing, youtube etc...
Also how is the impact of overclocking on battery..is it able to give 6-7 hour runtime on 1.2ghz on interactive governer?
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I have absolutly no problems with CM7 on the NC. I have oc'd to 1.1 and can run 9 hours with the screen on. I use it for everything, and would have no problems giving it as a gift to my gf to use as such.
Although, if you are going to give it and never update it, or be there to fix something if anything happens to have, I would buy an android tablet. Not the off name cheepy ones.
If it has to do with funds, I would choose the NC in the end.

It's a good tablet and performs quite nice on cm7. Have it clocked to 1GHz and it stays stable.
Sent from my [R3] BLURR3D DROID BIONIC using XDA App.

It works fine for the most part. Some people do have trouble with sleep but not me. It does have performance problems with Flash video but I think that's due to Flash being very demanding.
YouTube works fine. Netflix does too. Those are my sources of video. Although I use my Nook mostly for web and reading.
The Nook Color is a good cheap tablet with CM7. The best part is the IPS LCD you get for this cheap price.

thanks for the feedback....NC it is then

I forgot to mention that with YouTube you need to run an older version than the one in the market. For some reason the latest version won't play HQ. Just search for YouTube 2.1.6 apk.
Or here is my backup.

Why wouldn't the person you're gifting it to ever update it?
It's pretty simple through Rom Manager, and as long as they just do it like once a week/once every other week to whichever nightly has the most stars in the list... They'd probably be alright.

Yoinx said:
Why wouldn't the person you're gifting it to ever update it?
It's pretty simple through Rom Manager, and as long as they just do it like once a week/once every other week to whichever nightly has the most stars in the list... They'd probably be alright.
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It seems pretty easy for us...but for a person who isn't technologically savvy or lacks interest in it, its a big deal...Most people are fine as long as it does basic things right and don't care much for new enhancements...

It's entirely possible to never flash again once you have a stable release running. If Android 4 works out on Nook Color maybe that will be worth upgrading too. Otherwise we are pretty much past the teething problems of getting a decent kernel for 2.3, for example. 7.1.0 is a huge improvement over 7.0.3 primarily because of the kernel improvements that arrived since May.
I suggest you explore the stock firmware too. Maybe root it so you can install the market. The stock firmware has official support and you might appreciate that.

The stock firmware has official support and you might appreciate that.
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Not once you root it. It would have to be restored to unrooted stock if any official support was needed.

swaaye said:
It's entirely possible to never flash again once you have a stable release running. If Android 4 works out on Nook Color maybe that will be worth upgrading too. Otherwise we are pretty much past the teething problems of getting a decent kernel for 2.3, for example. 7.1.0 is a huge improvement over 7.0.3 primarily because of the kernel improvements that arrived since May.
I suggest you explore the stock firmware too. Maybe root it so you can install the market. The stock firmware has official support and you might appreciate that.
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Well I have tried using the nook on stock firmware, on B&N itself...but It didn't feel very snappy as other android devices...maybe rooting helps...
But that is why I am interesting in putting cm7 on it before gifting it..
BTW have ordered the nook, its on its way..

Yea there's no doubt that Dalingrin's Nook Color kernel in CM7 is a lot nicer overall than the stock software. That's where most of the speed comes from. Although he used their code, he tweaked it and threw in some enhancements.
If you want the most speed be sure to run 16bit transparency color. You can find that in the CM7 settings under performance. It speeds up scrolling considerably.

Should i root my HTC One ?

Hi all. I rooted my Sony Xperia Neo because he needed it, better speed, higher clock speed, everything better.
Then i bought HTC One X. After 6 months i rooted that to. Much better battery, more speed, smoother, better roms over all.
I am between rock and a hard place with the HTC One. Should i root it? What are the benefits? It's fun i know, but will the battery last so much longer? It has speed. It's smooth.
Please help make this decision easier :silly:
Thanks

I honestly don't think there's any real need to root it unless either you find bad performance in some areas or you want access to root apps.
Much like you, I've rooted previous devices because they needed that extra boost so I'd flash certain ROMs and/or kernels to solve those problems.
I didn't root my One for about a month because I wanted to see how it performed and it needed no boost whatsoever. I did end up rooting it though purely so I've got access to root apps which I'd previously used and got so used to them.
So my advice would be to leave it unrooted for now so you have time to really test the phone out and then see if you feel it needs any improvements at all
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

if youre satisfied with your phone as it is, i wouldnt root it just yet. unless youre bored or something and just want to mess around. or wait until you have a need to root it and then just do it.

I would agree with what has been said above by my fellow XDA'ers. I haven't rooted my One and it's going on 2 weeks now since i bought it. I honestly don't feel like i need any more CPU/GPU performance out of the device. I managed to get an AnTuTu score of 26511 on a completely untouched stock setup. All the apps and games that i've tested - and i've bought a handful of the most graphically demanding ones, like GTA Vice City, Modern Combat 4, etc - have showed no slowdowns or lags whatsoever. It's like having a Snapdragon 800 device at the moment - there are no apps/games right now that actually require its power. All that you can find on the Google Play store runs perfectly on a Snapdragon 600-powered device. Maybe by the end of this year or early 2014, if newer apps/games prove a bit laggy on the stock ROM, then i would consider rooting. By the way, i would highly recommend ARHD ROM from all the feedback that i've read. I downloaded his ROM already, but haven't made up my mind when to install it.

Battery life
Is the battery life better on the rooted htc one?
That's the biggest concern i have because im not too impressed with the battery performance on the stock phone.
I'm thinking about putting the latest cyanogenmod version on my one but not sure if i want to go through with it. I've had mine for couple days now.

[Q] Nub seeking advise (cm10 or cm11)

Hey everyone, awesome site! Yep, first post. :cyclops:
I'm completely new to Android though I have hacked a few things and understand the importance of making absolutely sure you know the procedures and make backups in case things get fubar. I've been digging through the posts quite a bit and of course see that opinions on use, stability, etc seem to vary a bit. What I'd like some kind feedback on is (as a nub) am I better off starting out using CM10 and then when I'm ready I can move on to CM11 or has CM11 been developed well enough to just start there. Also wondering how stable is "stable" on both. I'm much more interested in having a good and stable experience than a few extra bells and whistles until the kinks are worked out. I'm running a stock Nook HD+ now so it's all an upgrade in any case. Thanks in advance for all constructive feedback.

I went straight from rooted stock on my HD to CM 11 so I don't know how CM 10 ROMs are. But the CM 11 builds I've used from verygreen's thread since early January have been rock solid on my HD. Just 1 spontaneous reboot in the entire 2 months -- when granting superuser access to an app. That's it. Wi-fi, bluetooth, web browsing, music and video playback are all working fine. Swiping between screens is smooth. I did a clean install before I put CM 11 on, and I think that makes a difference vs. those who did dirty installs.
If you have an HD, CM 11 will let you use full screen mode which is very valuable for a 7" screen. I don't think you will get that with a CM 10 build which is based on JB. If you have an HD+, the gain in screen space that Kit Kat gives you is not as critical.
If you go to CM 10 first, you might have to reinstall everything for a clean install before jumping to CM 11. So you would ultimately save a lot of time by going straight to CM 11.

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hey Jodo901 :good:
my experience was that i purchased a HD+ and did loads of reading both prior to and after purchase. I chose the nook for a number of reasons (price vs performance) but also the awesome input from the guys here on XDA around custom roms.
For years I've always looked to get my devices updated with custom roms but always like to have a proper noob guide lol. The best place to start for me on the HD+ is this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
It explains the process step by step and is idiot proof (i did it!!) I have read numerous threads about which rom to put on the HD+ but settled on the stable 10.1.3 rom. i considered the 10.2 rom but the 10.2 had mixed reviews on the HD+ and the consensus was that 10.1.3 was a stable, mature and smooth rom. I am watching the CM 11 releases closely but it remains a work in progress, although from posters on the thread it seems that it is running almost perfectly. I will switch to CM 11 once verygreen posts a "stable" release - plus you can flash the roms as you wish, so can start with the stable 10.1.3 and then reflash when you're more confident or feel that the CM11 rom is more mature.
My advice would be go for 10.1.3 and follow the guide above. I didn't think the stock rom was that bad, but the 10.1.3 is night and day imho, its smooth, repsonsive and allows lots of funky tweaks. I've had this rom on my HD+ for a few days and am very pleased :fingers-crossed:
all the best with your choice fella
fish

Thanks for the quick responses guys! You've given me a bit more to consider and look into. That was one of the threads I bookmarked yesterday so thanks for pointing out it's validity. A further question that now comes to mind from what you both have said is how much of a hardware difference is there and is that something that can make a performance difference? Guess I'm still gonna be info diving for a bit tonight after work.

KitKat does improve on performance over Jelly Bean, but it's not something that will affect your daily use. I'm currently using CM 10.1.3 (stable) on a Nook HD+ and HD. I'm considering upgrading the HD to CM 10.2.1, as there is a stable build out. I will definitely upgrade to KitKat/CM11 when a stable build is released.
Personally, I only install stable builds. I don't want the hassle of encountering issues with nightlies. I find that CM10.1.3 is extremely stable, and I have not had any problems with it; although battery life is reduced from the original stock ROM, but that's nothing to be worried about. In conclusion, no issues with the CM10.1.3 stable build.
As a note, I also believe the TRIM issue has been fixed with the CM10.2.1 stable too on the Nook HD+; so CM10.2.1 should be fine too, but I haven't tried it yet.
All the best.

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Jodo901 said:
Thanks for the quick responses guys! You've given me a bit more to consider and look into. That was one of the threads I bookmarked yesterday so thanks for pointing out it's validity. A further question that now comes to mind from what you both have said is how much of a hardware difference is there and is that something that can make a performance difference? Guess I'm still gonna be info diving for a bit tonight after work.
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hey jodo
i'm not sure what you mean by hardware difference? if you mean the effectiveness of each rom on the HD+ i suppose its a matter of preference and through trial and error in trying the roms available. It seems that CM11 is considered the faster of the roms available but as said previously this is an on-going rom development and not considered stable.
I considered what i was going to use my HD+ for, which in my case was surfing and reading books/comics and getting the best return on the stupidly low price vs decent spec and awesome screen. I didn't buy it to game as 1. its hardly a powerhouse for gaming and 2. i dislike mobile gaming and prefer PS and XBOX for that sorta thing. My priorities were smoothness, stability, customisation and battery life which i feel 10.1.3 provides, but others may disagree lol.
Fish

Thanks again for the input guys. :good:
I finally have a some time to dig in on the forums a little and maybe get to the rooting later. I'm running very light on the apps at this point. Just some online stuff, ebooks, comics, etc. Mostly looking for more control and customization.
@fishman09 - I thought perhaps there were hardware differences depending on the manufacture date of the Nook HD+ unit but I haven't seen anything like that so I assume it's a non issue. I know this can be something that makes a difference when hacking older game systems (Xbox, PSP, etc)
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Thanks again to everyone who gave me their 2 cents on my way into all this fun custom Android stuff on my Nook HD+!!
I have now successfully installed 10.2.1 and so far its working well and looks great.

Another data point: I was in same position as you. Decided to go for a cm11 nightly build (this was back in _Jan). It ran reasonably well, but I wondered if 10.2 would be more stable or better with battery life. It felt about the same, with couple missing things, notably no hiding of soft buttons. So I've now gone back to cm11, a march nightly build. I think it is as good as a $120 tablet is going to get . So I'm pretty happy and staying. I even enabled ART runtime and so far everything has run except asphalt 8.
Just make sure you format and wipe everything after doing a backup during your install process.

My Conclusion...or the time being.
Well after about 3 or 4 days of normal usage with CM 10.2.1 I have decided to go back to the stock version of the Nook.The difference in battery drain did not outweigh the bonuses of the upgraded OS for me at all. I would say the battery life was only about 2/3 as long. This is a big drawback in my opinion considering I really wasn't running anything differently. Yeah, it was a bit prettier and more customizable and I was very impressed with the stability, but it's kind of pointless to have a wireless device that you have to keep plugging in all the time.

Jodo901 said:
Well after about 3 or 4 days of normal usage with CM 10.2.1 I have decided to go back to the stock version of the Nook.The difference in battery drain did not outweigh the bonuses of the upgraded OS for me at all. I would say the battery life was only about 2/3 as long. This is a big drawback in my opinion considering I really wasn't running anything differently. Yeah, it was a bit prettier and more customizable and I was very impressed with the stability, but it's kind of pointless to have a wireless device that you have to keep plugging in all the time.
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I got my new Nook+ last week and pondered whether to root and which ROM to use. After one week of use, I have no real issues keeping it stock for now but will follow the kitkat development for possible future rooting.