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I heard that the batch sold this Christmas will be arriving with 4.2, after the issues I've heard about I think I'd rather stick with a stable release. (16 GB Wi-Fi)
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Harry GT-S5830 said:
I heard that the batch sold this Christmas will be arriving with 4.2, after the issues I've heard about I think I'd rather stick with a stable release.
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I would assume they would be. Unless there was a hardware change, I would think you could fastboot flash a 4.1.2 os to it, of course providing you fastboot flash the earlier boot as well. This is speaking in regards to grouper, because I have no idea what the os progression of tilapia was.
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4.2 is totally stable. Stop reading and try it for your self.
Downgrade...haha.
Whats unstable about 4.2?
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The 4.2 issues have mostly been from upgrading, and have been cured by a data wipe. Yeah, it sucked for people who don't like reinstalling apps, but that's what Titanium Backup is for. Getting a fresh 4.2 tablet shouldn't cause you any worries, so feel free to enjoy it. A little patience will pay off as those few apps work out their compatibility issues. And, hey, isn't the bleeding edge the point of a Nexus anyway?!?
If you do have problems, flashing a 4.1.2 image shouldn't be a problem.
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I heard that the batch sold this Christmas will be arriving with 4.2, after the issues I've heard about I think I'd rather stick with a stable release. (16 GB Wi-Fi)
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Yes you can! Just download the original firmware for 4.1 and use one of the tools available, dont remember the names. Not sure if you can get 4.1.2 though, but 4.1 no problem! 4.2 is the first android release that I dont think is an improvement from previous versions.
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Upgrade the tablet once you get it, before installing apps. Or do a factory reset after upgrading. That cures 99% of the problems out there. No reason to stay with a lower firmware..
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Although Google has told you not to downgrade units shipped with 4.1.2 or later to 4.1.1, due to hardware issues. 4.2 may/may not work.
Just recently, all the tech sites are saying, Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie will not be released at Google I/O in May, but instead just Android 4.3;
http://www.aegindia.org/2013/04/android-key-lime-pie-not-appearing-on-google-io/2122449.html
According reliable information, the release of Android Key Lime Pie is postponed by another two to four months. The delay will give sometime for the manufacturers to provide Android 4.2.2 update for their devices.
A lot of sites, saying behind the scenes that Samsung will be very upset with Google to see Android 5.0 released, just a month after they just brought out their flagship new phone the Galaxy S4, running Android 4.2. Samsung does not want to be trumped just a few weeks later, making their brand new S4 outdated with 4.2, if 5.0 comes out shortly afterwards.
And rumors saying Google would rather release Android 5.0 on a brand new Nexus phone at the same time. So going to the typical Fall release, we will see a Nexus-Five phone running Android 5.0, competing at the same time, directly against the iPhone 5S.
Now who will be the manufacture of the Nexus-Five ? Most point to LG again, or possibly Sony this time. But "5" will be the magic number; Android 5.0, Nexus 5, and 5" screen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251704
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Curious what 4.3 will add to Jellybean ? Just minor tweaks and bug fixes ?
Will "Babel" be the main new feature ? Which I think is combining all Google Messaging to one main app ? Maybe Project Battery, giving even better battery life on stock Android ?
This is upsetting lol .. Also I will be pissed if a new nexus comes out already
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a new nexus phone will be out toward the end of the year, klp will be released with it.
I'm so done with jellybean
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Kinda dumb that Google would delay it just because Samsung would throw a fit.
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From now on every new android version comes with new nexus device.
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Totally agree. I could not see an all new version Android 5.0 still being released on the current Nexus 4. I would think Google would want to release a brand new fully new version, on a brand new phone at the same time.
I expect Android 4.3 next month, released on the Nexus 4, and the only new "Nexus" device coming out at Google I/O will be the new revised Nexus 7 tablet.
And then in the Fall we will get the Nexus-Five phone, running Android 5.0.
I've only had my nexus 4 for 2 months!! Rawr
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The Galaxy Nexus came with ICS(first device to have it). It also got updated to JB 4.1 as soon as it was released (June 2012 ?). So why is everyone making a fuss about the N4 getting 2 major Android releases (4.2 and possibly 5.0). In fact 4.2 was not even a Major update over 4.1.
I really hope Google brings out KLP in I/O!
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Saddened by anyone who believes this headline. Unconfirmed entirely and mere speculation. I have literally read no major sites covering this "news"
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Saddened by anyone who believes this headline. Unconfirmed entirely and mere speculation. I have literally read no major sites covering this "news"
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Agreed. I highly doubt they would postpone their software because Samsung is having a fit .However I would see it would make since to do Nexus 5 with key lime pie. I think key lime pie is going to be a almost entirely different os most likely mirroring their new google play/search style. Just my opinion though.
So the rumor that Google would reveal Key Lime Pie at their developer conference has been dispelled by... more rumors. This is a fun game.
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Seems as Nexus owners we're not the first to get the update this time. It could turn out to be an elaborate fake but probably genuine as Google are an experimenting company and have released two flagship devices with a vanilla Android option (although they're not "nexus"). From what I've read there doesn't appear to be any big changes (if any actually visible) and more fixes/optimisations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342362
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Seems as Nexus owners we're not the first to get the update this time. It could turn out to be an elaborate fake but probably genuine as Google are an experimenting company and have released two flagship devices with a vanilla Android option (although they're not "nexus"). From what I've read there doesn't appear to be any big changes (if any actually visible) and more fixes/optimisations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342362
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Flashed it on my GS4 and working like a charm (and it's the international version of course). No root yet, so i'll switch back to 4.2.2 to get my apps lol (can't restore through TB Pro duh).
It's just a leak so don't worry about it. The Nexus devices will definitely get the 4.3 first.
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Flashed it on my GS4 and working like a charm (and it's the international version of course). No root yet, so i'll switch back to 4.2.2 to get my apps lol (can't restore through TB Pro duh).
It's just a leak so don't worry about it. The Nexus devices will definitely get the 4.3 first.
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Cool, I'm another few months away from a handset upgrade and so it definitely makes these phones an even better proposition, having access to stock android goodness. Was impressed seeing how quickly someone had put a vanilla 4.2.2 ROM together for the HTC One, then seen this and was very surprised.
Its good to see really as it shows that Google and the handset makers are finally getting why people like android so much and that is the option of choice and customisation. It may not be the exact reason for doing so but they must be conscious of it. As the last I/O conference showed, it was very developer orientated
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Flashed it on my GS4 and working like a charm (and it's the international version of course). No root yet, so i'll switch back to 4.2.2 to get my apps lol (can't restore through TB Pro duh).
It's just a leak so don't worry about it. The Nexus devices will definitely get the 4.3 first.
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Try rooting with Motochopper. Should still work on 4.3
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What are the new features?
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IRX120 said:
What are the new features?
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All features are under the hood. This explains it better: http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-leaked-android-43-rom-google-edition-galaxy-s4
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Try rooting with Motochopper. Should still work on 4.3
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I switched back to TW ROM for now. I found the camera app of TW to be of better quality and also if I have the S4, might as well use the features included in it.
So basically 4.3 has very little changes?? Mostly stuff no one will ever see or notice. In other words a placebo update basically to keep flash happys content until key lime comes out! LOL
Yay!
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So basically 4.3 has very little changes?? Mostly stuff no one will ever see or notice. In other words a placebo update basically to keep flash happys content until key lime comes out! LOL
Yay!
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Majority of what is updated won't be frontend. Just additions to the internal workings of android. Maybe some slimmed down code for some Google system apps and such.
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Majority of what is updated won't be frontend. Just additions to the internal workings of android. Maybe some slimmed down code for some Google system apps and such.
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And yet people will push seniors and kids out of their way to get their hands on! LOL.
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And yet people will push seniors and kids out of their way to get their hands on! LOL.
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Hahaha of course, its a new version of android. , also the pics I posted are a fake, just change your version number in build.prop and reboot. Even the easter egg reads the build.prop.
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That picture had the JDQ39 build number. Fake. 4.2
Edit: just read last post lol. I didn't know the easter egg read the build.prop.
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That picture had the JDQ39 build number. Fake. 4.2
Edit: just read last post lol. I didn't know the easter egg read the build.prop.
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Those are from my LGOG.
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My guess is 4.3 is just bug releases and something to keep us occupied before key lime pie
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Does not look like a whole lot of new stuff, wonder if battery and memory management will be any better
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Does not look like a whole lot of new stuff, wonder if battery and memory management will be any better
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Oh yeah, battery life on 4.2.2 is soooooo terrible /sarcasm
I routinely get 8 to 10 hours of screen time depending on how much standby there is.
I never said it was bad i just said i wonder if it will be better, no need for a stupid comment
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Those are from my LGOG.
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It took me a few minutes to figure out what a LGOG is lol
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I'm sure you've all heard new android 4.4 kitkat.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
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Not buying it. First of all KitKat is a trademarked name... Also the whole "golden ticket" willy wonka thing is bogus too.
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Not buying it. First of all KitKat is a trademarked name... Also the whole "golden ticket" willy wonka thing is bogus too.
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Pull out your wallet. Google spokeman confirmed it
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Not buying it. First of all KitKat is a trademarked name... Also the whole "golden ticket" willy wonka thing is bogus too.
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Dude they partnered up duh. They've already got the statue. And they're not doing anything willy wonka golden ticket things.. Is just a contest for N7s and a couple play store gift cards
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I feel like kitkat is gonna be dope. Anyone think our phone will be able to handle it? (they seem to have no doubt that the nexus 7 2013 will have it and besides the ram being 2gb and that AHD being 1gb, the specs don't between the two don't differ much [feel free to nicely correct me if I'm wrong])
4.4 is being made for older phones with lesser specs than ours. The question is will the carriers give it out to us?
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4.4 is being made for older phones with lesser specs than ours. The question is will the carriers give it out to us?
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The answer is no, our talented devs will
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The answer is no, our talented devs will
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Exactly lol. We won't even get an official 4.2.
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Exactly lol. We won't even get an official 4.2.
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Did AT&T users even get 4.1.2?
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Did AT&T users even get 4.1.2?
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Yeah got that right after my first AHD. Caused my phone to bootloop and had to get another.
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Well then I'm gonna be hopeful for a PAC 4.4
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its on the official android site
http://www.android.com/
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I feel like kitkat is gonna be dope. Anyone think our phone will be able to handle it? (they seem to have no doubt that the nexus 7 2013 will have it and besides the ram being 2gb and that AHD being 1gb, the specs don't between the two don't differ much [feel free to nicely correct me if I'm wrong])
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in fact ive seen devices that originally came with gingerbread running 4.2.2 very well and not only that motorola will upgrade moto-x to kitkat atrix hd is only a 200mhz slower than moto-x
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in fact ive seen devices that originally came with gingerbread running 4.2.2 very well and not only that motorola will upgrade moto-x to kitkat atrix hd is only a 200mhz slower than moto-x
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Exactly! I personally am not down with the moto x. Its just a (very) slightly updated version of the matrix HD. And the real deal killer (from what I've heard) is that there's no f*#$%¡£ SD card slot.
Slightly of topic: since we where talking about kitkat running on older phones, does anyone else find it awesomely funny that the HTC dream/ T-Mobile G1 (the first official android phone) can run jellybean? Sure it's crap compared to ours now but the fact that it can even boot is cool.
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"It's our goal with android kitkat to make an amazing android experience available for everybody"
We'll see what that really means
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They should just push it out... forget the carriers.
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Did AT&T users even get 4.1.2?
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AT&T users got 4.1.1...
i actualy did not know that and not only that att cut there main support for atrix hd as soon as moto-x came out and i haveused the moto-x its really more of a downgrade than an upgrade and you are correct it does not have a external sd card slot which prevents me from even thinking about the moto-x as a possible device
thats why i havent bought the nexus 4
Well I don't really think that 4.4 KitKat will be the next version of android. I don't know why but it just doesn't sound right. I mean all these hints from Google about klp for nothing? If you remember a Google employee had posted a picture of android eating klp which actually "confirmed" klp as the next version of android for me. It could be a marketing trick, like they show kitkat and then release 5.0 KLP . It could be a small "lie" from Google so that it keeps us thinking that they release 4.4 and then, boum they release 5.0. I could be wrong but I don't think 4.4 will be next version of android if you think how many android versions 4+ has supported (4.0, 4.1, 4.1.2, 4.2.1, 4.2.2, 4.3, and now 4.4???) All other android version numbers were supporting no more than two versions of android (1.5, 2.0, 2.2, 3.0,) Also I don't think Google would use a copyrighted name as their next version of android. Like I said, this could be a "trick" from Google or I could be totally wrong
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Well I don't really think that 4.4 KitKat will be the next version of android. I don't know why but it just doesn't sound right. I mean all these hints from Google about klp for nothing? If you remember a Google employee had posted a picture of android eating klp which actually "confirmed" klp as the next version of android for me. It could be a marketing trick, like they show kitkat and then release 5.0 KLP . It could be a small "lie" from Google so that it keeps us thinking that they release 4.4 and then, boum they release 5.0. I could be wrong but I don't think 4.4 will be next version of android if you think how many android versions 4+ has supported (4.0, 4.1, 4.1.2, 4.2.1, 4.2.2, 4.3, and now 4.4???) All other android version numbers were supporting no more than two versions of android (1.5, 2.0, 2.2, 3.0,) Also I don't think Google would use a copyrighted name as their next version of android. Like I said, this could be a "trick" from Google or I could be totally wrong
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Here's the story behind the story
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/3/4691040/android-kitkat-the-story-behind-a-delicious-partnership
Basically this makes me want to eat KitKats. They are delicious!
//I'm a sucker for marketing...bought a 6er of these because I liked the way the bottles looked.
Okay, so this happened: Android Police: Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 OTA
Hopefully it won't take long for us now
Yay! I have my Nexus 4 rooted and have the bootloader unlocked running stock ROM 4.3 (JWR66Y) with TWRP recovery flashed and LTE enabler flashed. What is the easiest way for me to update to 4.4? (either through OTA or flashing the 4.4 ROM/update)
We are the next hour by tomorrow nexus 4 gets kitkat
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Yay! I have my Nexus 4 rooted and have the bootloader unlocked running stock ROM 4.3 (JWR66Y) with TWRP recovery flashed and LTE enabler flashed. What is the easiest way for me to update to 4.4? (either through OTA or flashing the 4.4 ROM/update)
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OTA Updates won't do you no good, even if you receive a notification with rooted stock, it'll most likely fail.
Either flash back to bone stock (no root, no custom recovery) and hope you get it soon, or wait until someone gets the N4 OTA, rips out the new binaries and compiles a new ROM with them from scratch, which you then can flash via CWM/TWRP.
Personally, I choose the latter. Also, do read the article in the link, it explicitly states that only the N7 and N10 have their OTA's rolling out so far, the time specified for our device is still "soon".
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OTA Updates won't do you no good, even if you receive a notification with rooted stock, it'll most likely fail.
Either flash back to bone stock (no root, no custom recovery) and hope you get it soon, or wait until someone gets the N4 OTA, rips out the new binaries and compiles a new ROM with them from scratch, which you then can flash via CWM/TWRP.
Personally, I choose the latter. Also, do read the article in the link, it explicitly states that only the N7 and N10 have their OTA's rolling out so far, the time specified for our device is still "soon".
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Thanks! I know, just getting ready to see my options. Thanks again
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Thanks! I know, just getting ready to see my options. Thanks again
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Ah, okay, I didn't know how familiar you are since you only joined this year ^^
I have a penchant to explain things in long-winded posts, it's a failing, I know
Google clearly said it, "Screw you Nexus 4."
Plus Google is always following the same Apple model. Wtf would they keep Google Experience launcher and Transparency limited to NEXUS 5? See the picture. Nexus 7 running 4.4 OTA doesn't have GEL or transparency. SERIOUSLY GOOGLE?
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Google clearly said it, "Screw you Nexus 4."
Plus Google is always following the same Apple model. Wtf would they keep Google Experience launcher and Transparency limited to NEXUS 5? See the picture. Nexus 7 running 4.4 OTA doesn't have GEL or transparency. SERIOUSLY GOOGLE?
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N4 will get the transparency, but not GEL
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That's the problem. I don't see why not. Been using it on Custom ROM for 10 days. Works fine.
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That's the problem. I don't see why not. Been using it on Custom ROM for 10 days. Works fine.
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for me 4.4 will be the 1st stock that will not use, GEL is one of the best features from 4.4(looks like from N5) so the 4.4 update will be just to get custom 4.4 roms less glitched / more optimized
Tomorrow is November 13. Didn't I hear there was a Google Search update coming on November 13th. Since GEL is pretty much powered by Google Search, I am guessing GEL can get on devices tomorrow. Just a guess. If it is true, I win a cookie.
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Tomorrow is November 13. Didn't I hear there was a Google Search update coming on November 13th. Since GEL is pretty much powered by Google Search, I am guessing GEL can get on devices tomorrow. Just a guess. If it is true, I win a cookie.
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That actually makes sense, maybe the reason google didn't put it in the factory images for other nexus devices is because they're going to roll it out through the play store, as the google search update
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That actually makes sense, maybe the reason google didn't put it in the factory images for other nexus devices is because they're going to roll it out through the play store, as the google search update
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Plus, it was also rumored to get rolled out though Play store anyways. Everything will come together soon enough. We just gotta wait.
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That actually makes sense, maybe the reason google didn't put it in the factory images for other nexus devices is because they're going to roll it out through the play store, as the google search update
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Interesting
Damn! Can't wait. I hope we get GEL officially.
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When I see *Currently only on nexus 5, I'm thinking " itll be out for other devices". Its that word "Currently", it they really wanted to be dickheads Google could have said *Only on nexus 5
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Agreed it will come after few fixes and may be with 4.4.1
The build number for the N7 and N10 is KRT16O that is different than the N5's.
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The build number for the N7 and N10 is KRT16O that is different than the N5's.
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That's interesting, maybe it already is the 4.4.1 Update.
I miss JBQ.. The OTA is being pushed to those devices, yet there are no factory images for those devices.. Such a backwards rollout.. These things are supposed to go hand in hand.