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[Q] HTC Incredible S reverting back to stock

Hello Guys,
I got my New Incredible S two days ago but I am unaware of the rooting/unlocking process.
Here are my questions:
1. I am now on Stock Gingerbread 2.3.5 ROM. Is there anyway that I can root my device without having to unlock it.
2. If I do root the device then will I be able to unroot it and revert back to stock (Any risks)
3. If I choose to unlock the device, can I revert back and re-lock it.
4. What is the difference between S-ON and S-OFF (I dont understand the terms in the first place)
5. Difference between the rooting and unlocking process.
Please guys, i will be greatfull if any of you can help me out with my queries. I am new to HTC. I was previously using a Galaxy S and it was too simple for me to install custom roms. Came to HTC only for the Sense UI.
Thank you.

irfan88 said:
Hello Guys,
I got my New Incredible S two days ago but I am unaware of the rooting/unlocking process.
Here are my questions:
1. I am now on Stock Gingerbread 2.3.5 ROM. Is there anyway that I can root my device without having to unlock it.
2. If I do root the device then will I be able to unroot it and revert back to stock (Any risks)
3. If I choose to unlock the device, can I revert back and re-lock it.
4. What is the difference between S-ON and S-OFF (I dont understand the terms in the first place)
5. Difference between the rooting and unlocking process.
Please guys, i will be greatfull if any of you can help me out with my queries. I am new to HTC. I was previously using a Galaxy S and it was too simple for me to install custom roms. Came to HTC only for the Sense UI.
Thank you.
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Welcome to HTC. I suggest you search and read the sticky posts in the forum. It will provide you with knowledge and answer your questions. On the HTC S-OFF provides you with a true unlocked system which makes it very easy to mod.
The official HTC unlock method does not really provide you with a flly unlocked system, so there are some mods that aren't as easy or impossible to perform.

tpbklake said:
Welcome to HTC. I suggest you search and read the sticky posts in the forum. It will provide you with knowledge and answer your questions. On the HTC S-OFF provides you with a true unlocked system which makes it very easy to mod.
The official HTC unlock method does not really provide you with a flly unlocked system, so there are some mods that aren't as easy or impossible to perform.
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So If I do perform the S-OFF following ur posts, Will I be able to revert the device back to S-ON. My main question is, If I go the route of S-OFF then will I get official updates from HTC?

irfan88 said:
So If I do perform the S-OFF following ur posts, Will I be able to revert the device back to S-ON. My main question is, If I go the route of S-OFF then will I get official updates from HTC?
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Yes the Revolutionary S-OFF can be undone and reverted back to S-ON. Yes if you S-OFF and keep your stock ROM, then you should get the ICS OTA notification, but you will have to revert back to stock in order to apply it.

tpbklake said:
Yes the Revolutionary S-OFF can be undone and reverted back to S-ON. Yes if you S-OFF and keep your stock ROM, then you should get the ICS OTA notification, but you will have to revert back to stock in order to apply it.
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Sorry mate, that did not clear my mind. In simple words, If I choose to S-OFF and stay on the stock rom Gingerbread 2.3.5, will I be able to apply the official ICS update even though I have S-OFF with stock rom.

irfan88 said:
Sorry mate, that did not clear my mind. In simple words, If I choose to S-OFF and stay on the stock rom Gingerbread 2.3.5, will I be able to apply the official ICS update even though I have S-OFF with stock rom.
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No the OTA update will fail because the S-OFF process write protects the bootloader and prevents anything from overwritng it to preserve S-OFF. The OTA will have a new version of the bootloader and since it will not be able to replace and update the S-OFF bootloader, you will end up with a phone that will not boot.

tpbklake said:
No the OTA update will fail because the S-OFF process write protects the bootloader and prevents anything from overwritng it to preserve S-OFF. The OTA will have a new version of the bootloader and since it will not be able to replace and update the S-OFF bootloader, you will end up with a phone that will not boot.
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Thanks man. No more questions for now. I think I will wait for the Official update to arrive on my phone and then update to Custom roms if I dont find the OTA update interesting enough.

[Q] Noob alert! Can anyone explain what S-off is?

I want to update my HTC one to 4.2.2 but mine is the US variant (HTC_001 and not locked to any carrier) so I guess it will be a while before the update goes OTA??
Anywho, I understand that there is away to change the MID to get OTA from UK (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322820)
But it says that I require "s-off".
Can you be kind enough to explain what it is and how I can get it?

uzman1243 said:
I want to update my HTC one to 4.2.2 but mine is the US variant (HTC_001 and not locked to any carrier) so I guess it will be a while before the update goes OTA??
Anywho, I understand that there is away to change the MID to get OTA from UK (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322820)
But it says that I require "s-off".
Can you be kind enough to explain what it is and how I can get it?
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S-off means security off.
There are certain partitions in the phone which contain the firmware, drivers, etc which are protected with s-on (security on). The reason for this is that if incorrect data is written to these areas your phone can become a permanent brick.
Obtaining s-off is a relatively easy process but can be risky if you don't know what you are doing.
My suggestion to you if you don't know what s-off is is to research and then some more and be familiar with the benefits vs risks.
In my signature below is a guide by vomer which provides details and links to the various processes you have to go through.

rider5512 said:
S-off means security off.
There are certain partitions in the phone which contain the firmware, drivers, etc which are protected with s-on (security on). The reason for this is that if incorrect data is written to these areas your phone can become a permanent brick.
Obtaining s-off is a relatively easy process but can be risky if you don't know what you are doing.
My suggestion to you if you don't know what s-off is is to research and then some more and be familiar with the benefits vs risks.
In my signature below is a guide by vomer which provides details and links to the various processes you have to go through.
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Thank you.
I looked into it, and the whole process is a very arduous task. You have to unlock the bootloader, then root it, then s off, then use that tutorial to change the MID.
I think there is too much risks given my knowledge of android hacking.
I guess ill just have to wait for OTA for the US variant.

uzman1243 said:
Thank you.
I looked into it, and the whole process is a very arduous task. You have to unlock the bootloader, then root it, then s off, then use that tutorial to change the MID.
I think there is too much risks given my knowledge of android hacking.
I guess ill just have to wait for OTA for the US variant.
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Why wait for an ota update when you could just unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, and install something like ARHD 12.0 which is rock stable and is way more faster than the stock rom.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium

uzman1243 said:
Thank you.
I looked into it, and the whole process is a very arduous task. You have to unlock the bootloader, then root it, then s off, then use that tutorial to change the MID.
I think there is too much risks given my knowledge of android hacking.
I guess ill just have to wait for OTA for the US variant.
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Yea..u dnt hv to s-off to flash custom rom...

uzman1243 said:
I want to update my HTC one to 4.2.2 but mine is the US variant (HTC_001 and not locked to any carrier) so I guess it will be a while before the update goes OTA??
Anywho, I understand that there is away to change the MID to get OTA from UK (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322820)
But it says that I require "s-off".
Can you be kind enough to explain what it is and how I can get it?
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Just wait for the OTA, should be soon.. I just got mine updated OTA 2 days ago HTC_044.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta

akk60 said:
Why wait for an ota update when you could just unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, and install something like ARHD 12.0 which is rock stable and is way more faster than the stock rom.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
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Hmmm well I prefer the Stock 4.2.2 with sense 5. And since mine is USA variant so the only way to get it will be to change the MID. so thats unlock the bootloader, then root it, then s off, then use that tutorial to change the MID.

alanchai said:
Just wait for the OTA, should be soon.. I just got mine updated OTA 2 days ago HTC_044.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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USA man, its always the last one that gets the updates. But thank god mine is not given to an carrier.

[Q] OTA Update After Root

I am planning on unlocking and rooting my Canadian HTC One Silver on Rogers, right now actually, but I am just curious, 4.3 is supposed to be out for me sometime this weekend, maybe even tonight or tomorrow, so is it worth rooting atm or should I wait for 4.3 then wait for a root method or whatever I have to do, I am new to android and to rooting but I have been researching it for ages while I was stuck with BB7...
So, if this is not something to worry about or you think I should just go for it, is anyone willing to help me root over skype or TV or whatever, I am still confused and could use some... live help. I have a good mic and I am a good listener so it shouldn't be an issue.

Wait the Update and unlock the phone after
Because, if you want do the OTA after the unlocking, you have to revert back to lock and install it
I think is better do all after the OTA

Guich said:
Wait the Update and unlock the phone after
Because, if you want do the OTA after the unlocking, you have to revert back to lock and install it
I think is better do all after the OTA
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Was wondering the same actually...
I have unlucked my One, flashed TWRP recovery, made a backup of the stock rom and flashed a custom rom.
If I'd want to get the official stock update (if I understand correctly that's the only way to also flash firmware if you are S-ON with hboot 1.54?) the process would be:
* Restore the stock rom backup
* Flash stock recovery
Am I missing something?

dagrim1 said:
Was wondering the same actually...
I have unlucked my One, flashed TWRP recovery, made a backup of the stock rom and flashed a custom rom.
If I'd want to get the official stock update (if I understand correctly that's the only way to also flash firmware if you are S-ON with hboot 1.54?) the process would be:
* Restore the stock rom backup
* Flash stock recovery
Am I missing something?
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Relock the bootloader after the points you writed
The command is:
Code:
fastboot oem lock

Guich said:
Relock the bootloader after the points you writed
The command is:
Code:
fastboot oem lock
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Great! And can I unlock afterwards again using the same way I did before using the same file from htc-dev?
Cheers

dagrim1 said:
Great! And can I unlock afterwards again using the same way I did before using the same file from htc-dev?
Cheers
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Yes, but if you will get the new update with the new hboot, is better unlock with a new code

Guich said:
Yes, but if you will get the new update with the new hboot, is better unlock with a new code
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I understand, still have to wait till the update actually comes available but it's always good to be prepared Thanks again!

[Q] AT&T OTA Not working - Stock

Hey guys, I just bought this phone yesterday from AT&T. Just out of the box I received an OTA update, which I thought was the KK update. But no, I am stuck on android 4.1.2 and Sense 5.0, and when I try to update, all I get is a message saying that everything is up to date and there are no updates available for me.
I am on the AT&T network at the time, and my phone is completely stock, no mod whatsoever. Any ideas what is going on????

You might want to exchange for a new unit or request for them to update, for all we know applying solutions suggested by us might just void the warranty instead.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

Piachnp said:
Hey guys, I just bought this phone yesterday from AT&T. Just out of the box I received an OTA update, which I thought was the KK update. But no, I am stuck on android 4.1.2 and Sense 5.0, and when I try to update, all I get is a message saying that everything is up to date and there are no updates available for me.
I am on the AT&T network at the time, and my phone is completely stock, no mod whatsoever. Any ideas what is going on????
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use this RUU to get to 4.3 >> http://androidruu.com/getdownload.p...13_10.38j.1157.04_release_334235_signed_2.exe
you need locked / relocked bootloader
being your on 4.1.2 now would be a great time to get s-off before doing the ruu update. check this guide for getting s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506

clsA said:
being your on 4.1.2 now would be a great time to get s-off before doing the ruu update. check this guide for getting s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
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+1 .. do it now!

Lets say I don't do S-Off (i don't really know what that is, my earlier phone was a crappy samsung) and I do the update with the RUU, will I be able to do S-Off later???
The thing is that i don't want to void the warranty. Coming from a really bad phone, where I had to mod EVERYTHING to get it working acceptably, I would really like to settle down and be stock for a while. Of course, that feeling will probably last a few months and then I will be flashing roms every 2 days lol.
If I flash the RUU manually, that doesn't void the warranty right? I mean, its an official firmware i suppose. On the other hand, if I can only do the S-Off thing right now, i might consider staying a while longer with 4.1.2 ... after all it is not so bad.

Piachnp said:
Lets say I don't do S-Off (i don't really know what that is, my earlier phone was a crappy samsung) and I do the update with the RUU, will I be able to do S-Off later???
The thing is that i don't want to void the warranty. Coming from a really bad phone, where I had to mod EVERYTHING to get it working acceptably, I would really like to settle down and be stock for a while. Of course, that feeling will probably last a few months and then I will be flashing roms every 2 days lol.
If I flash the RUU manually, that doesn't void the warranty right? I mean, its an official firmware i suppose. On the other hand, if I can only do the S-Off thing right now, i might consider staying a while longer with 4.1.2 ... after all it is not so bad.
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Yes it is HARDER to do S-OFF on later updates.

SaHiLzZ said:
Yes it is HARDER to do S-OFF on later updates.
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Mmm I think I'll start reading more before I make any decisions. Eventually I will root and install custom rims and kernels, so I'd like to keep my options open. If it's HARD but not impossible I might upgrade and stay stock.
Would you say there's a big difference between 4.1.2 / Sense 5.0 and 4.3 / Sense 5.5 ???

It's not that hard really.. i decided to s-off when im already running a KK rom. Firewater worked like a charm.
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Gain S-Off now, and forever be happy. I never cared about OTA when I had that phone, I could run any RUU I wanted to, I changed from ATT to Dev, to GPE and back so many times. Just awesome.

JiroPrinz8 said:
It's not that hard really.. i decided to s-off when im already running a KK rom. Firewater worked like a charm.
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Until you get whelped..

Updating to 4.4.3 OTA

Hi all, back to an Android phone after a long time. It's a pre owned HTC M7 Sprint. I have received the Official 4.4.3 and sense 6 update, however, before proceeding wanted to ask fro help. Will updating make me lose root? Or S-Off?
Thanks,
Jude

judebrent87 said:
Hi all, back to an Android phone after a long time. It's a pre owned HTC M7 Sprint. I have received the Official 4.4.3 and sense 6 update, however, before proceeding wanted to ask fro help. Will updating make me lose root? Or S-Off?
Thanks,
Jude
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I think you are in the wrong forum as there is not an upgrade to 4.4.3 for sprint yet.

judebrent87 said:
Hi all, back to an Android phone after a long time. It's a pre owned HTC M7 Sprint. I have received the Official 4.4.3 and sense 6 update, however, before proceeding wanted to ask fro help. Will updating make me lose root? Or S-Off?
Thanks,
Jude
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As a general rule, you need stock recovery and stock rom to successfully execute the OTA update. So you will loose root but you should retain S-OFF.

majmoz said:
As a general rule, you need stock recovery and stock rom to successfully execute the OTA update. So you will loose root but you should retain S-OFF.
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Thanks, I am on stock rooted, so I'll proceed later during the day.

judebrent87 said:
Thanks, I am on stock rooted, so I'll proceed later during the day.
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How did you get an OTA 4.4.3 M7 Sprint update? When did it go out?

Like I said I'm new to all of this and could have made a mistake. The update is for sense 6, unsure about the rest. Advise now would be helpful.

judebrent87 said:
Like I said I'm new to all of this and could have made a mistake. The update is for sense 6, unsure about the rest. Advise now would be helpful.
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As far as I know, the OTA 4.4.3 hasn't been sent out yet for the Sprint HTC One (M7). My understanding is it should be released any day now.