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N7 vs Ipad 3 - which to get ?!

Hey XDA community, I've been coming and going alot lately but I got tons of headaches off this so i thought let's see what you guys think,
I was offered a free ipad 3 from my brother, against getting a N7 from my out pocket, I has an ipod 4g and HTC explorer, so am not a fan or a
hater for any of those platforms actually I love them both equally plus, they are almost identical when it comes to apps availabilty, I know the ipad
might have a slight edge in frames in that area, now onto the most important part, I'll use it mainly for ebooks reading as am studying Comp.
Science and am a gamer web browsing .. ofc ! ( again no hate for the 7-in screen ) and please don't point to the "issues massacre" that's going on
about the N7 althought RMA is not an option for me if anything wrong goes on ...
long post, sry ​

What's with the crazy font and centering? Makes your post difficult to read.

Get the nexus 7. Compared to the iPad, n7 is just more convenient to hold and type in terms of weight and size and more portable. The size is good enough for reading also at least for me.

Theasa92 said:
Hey XDA community, I've been coming and going alot lately but I got tons of headaches off this so i thought let's see what you think guys,
I was offered a free ipad 3 from my brother, against getting a N7 from my out pocket, I has an ipod 4g and HTC explorer, so am not a fan or a hater for any of those platforms actually I love them both equally plus, they are almost identical when it comes to apps availabilty, I know the ipad might have a slight edge in frames in that area, now onto the most important part, I'll use it mainly for ebooks reading as am studying Comp. Science and am a gamer web browsing .. ofc ! ( again no hate for the 7-in screen ) and please don't point to the "issues massacre" that's going on about the N7 althought RMA is not an option for me if anything wrong goes on ... long post, sry ​
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Can you get both?
If in your position I would probably try and decide which size device would suit me better.... The bigger iPad is less portable and harder to use as a regular e-reader, but might be better for browsing and textbooks with diagrams and pictures.. The Nexus is more portable and a great all rounder (I am doing an IT degree and have no problems reading my textbooks.
I personally detest Apple's business practices and would never buy one of their devices, but their products are solid and you probably can't go wrong either way.
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_MetalHead_ said:
What's with the crazy font and centering? Makes your post difficult to read.
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Edited, thanks for the note.

NikonUser said:
Can you get both?
If in your position I would probably try and decide which size device would suit me better.... The bigger iPad is less portable and harder to use as a regular e-reader, but might be better for browsing and textbooks with diagrams and pictures.. The Nexus is more portable and a great all rounder (I am doing an IT degree and have no problems reading my textbooks.
I personally detest Apple's business practices and would never buy one of their devices, but their products are solid and you probably can't go wrong either way.
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lol thought about it but I thought of an X360 right away :silly:
you've got a good point, reading text about source code might get ugly on the N7 while going back and forth ...
about the "solid" thing, I've done a jailbreak on one of these babies, and the thing got re-springing every once and a while, while the N7 actually begs you to customize it lol
I've got a tickle though .. are you experiencing any lifting or anything ? since u've got an N7

NeverAlwaysEver said:
Get the nexus 7. Compared to the iPad, n7 is just more convenient to hold and type in terms of weight and size and more portable. The size is good enough for reading also at least for me.
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I agree as far as the size goes. I have both sizes, and I'm loving the 7" form factor. So much easier to handle when lounging around, and still big enough for my uses.

Theasa92 said:
I was offered a free ipad 3 from my brother
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Seems like a no brainer to me :laugh:

No matter what, nexus 7 is far better than iPad
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kenyee said:
Seems like a no brainer to me :laugh:
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Yeah, take the free ipad3. Though, I love my nexus 7. If it was free nexus versus ipad3 the nexus has now closed the gap I'd easily say take the free nexus and you'd be happy.

kenyee said:
Seems like a no brainer to me :laugh:
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if there was a like button you'd get a +1

hasibzaman said:
No matter what, nexus 7 is far better than iPad
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That's not a biased response at all.
@OP- I own both, and both are great devices in their own regard. The screen on the iPad is unparalleled, it has a ton of awesome games, and a bunch of great productivity apps. The Nexus 7 has the customizability, and a great form factor, plus all of Google's great cloud services. I take my N7 with me, and use the iPad at home. I think the 7" is a much better size for portability, and it's the perfect size for gaming, but unfortunately the iPad just trumps Android with the shear number of high quality games available. The N7 is also a better size for reading too. If it comes down to getting an iPad 3 for free or actually buying the N7, then I would take the iPad no question. If you were going to have to spring for either, then it would be a toss up and I would lean towards the N7. If I was in your shoes though, I would take the free iPad and buy an N7

Screw it.. am getting this freebie, then I'll re-think about this whole thing WHY THE HELL SHOULD I SAY NO TO A FREE IPAD !!
Thanks all for you're hot replies

Theasa92 said:
Screw it.. am getting this freebie, then I'll re-think about this whole thing WHY THE HELL SHOULD I SAY NO TO A FREE IPAD !!
Thanks all for you're hot replies
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Good choice. Then you can sell it and buy 3 Nexus 7's with the money. Keep one in your car, one at home, and one at work!
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_MetalHead_ said:
I would take the free iPad and buy an N7
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NikonUser1005409 said:
Can you get both?
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as you guys said - sorry If I forgot anyone else whoe said the same thing, should I close the thread now ? any last words ? :silly:

Take the free ipad, sell it, buy a brand new nexus7, and use the remaining on accessories, apps, and a nice dinner.
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If you need GPS then the iPad3 is useless if it's the WIFI only version since it doesn't have GPS. Take the free iPad3, sell it and buy two Nexus 7's.

I know for me personally, the ipad is too big. I like the 7 inch form factor, and the nexus 7 is designed to for portability and convenience. Just depends what your looking for I suppose. Honestly I'm not sure why anyone needs a bigger tablet but that's just me.
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Ironically I sold my iPad 3 earlier today.
Initially I bought the Nexus 7 in addition to the iPad but since owning it I just haven't put it down. Yes the iPad has more polished apps but the sheer power, flexibility and portability of the N7 can't be beaten. I found I simply couldn't justify keeping the iPad!
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You can't beat free.
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Uses of a tablet?

Well I was planning to buy my first tablet with the spare 500$ laying around. While doing some research, I thought " What will I do with a tablet?" . Here are some answers that I got
Play games
Watch Vidoes anywhere
Have Android on a big screen
????
Profit?
None of these answers where convincing and so I wanted to ask the community over here as many of you would have tablets.
Thanks

I use mine for a little bit of everything I'm a huge reader so mostly books. I have a nexus 7 good luck with whatever you get
And if you wanted an android with a huge screen get a galaxy note lol
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I used my Xoom to get back into comics. Hadn't read them since I was like 12 and back then I was never able to have a huge collection at my fingertips.

I'd use mine to run Linux and have a full os..... but I don't have one :/ .... guess my note is close enough got to love 5inch screens
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I couldn't find any uses for mine... I gave it to my mom... guess I coulda used it for xda, but I'm always on the laptop... and the tv's right in front of me...

Web browsing is my main use, secondary is gaming.

I use mine for...
1. Web browsing (XDA and all the other good stuff on the internet)
2. Games
3. Movies, Videos (YouTube and blah)
4. GPS

ipad is useful as a doormat

Just get a good laptop or upgrade your phone, Tablets aren't that useful

madmajd said:
Just get a good laptop or upgrade your phone, Tablets aren't that useful
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Opinion. Tablets definitely have a use, I dare you to find a laptop that weighs as little as a tablet with 10 hour battery life.

063_XOBX said:
Opinion. Tablets definitely have a use, I dare you to find a laptop that weighs as little as a tablet with 10 hour battery life.
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You got me there

I like web browsing on the Nexus 7 better than on my computer.

These are all awesome points but the only thing i cant get past is that i can do basically everything i can do on a tab and more on my phone. Im constantly texting people so is have to switch back and forth and it just doesnt seem practical.
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Tablets are first and foremost media consumption devices. They are terrible for productivity unless you get something of the transformer line and cannot play many high end games. Internet browsing, light games, and movies/videos are what tablets do best. They are the portability step in between ultrabooks and smartphones.

veeman said:
I like web browsing on the Nexus 7 better than on my computer.
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+1 on that.. I like watching movies on it more than on my TV..

veeman said:
I like web browsing on the Nexus 7 better than on my computer.
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flsmidth said:
+1 on that.. I like watching movies on it more than on my TV..
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Is the Nexus 7 screen big enough? I think the iPad's 9.6 inch is too big, and I haven't played with Nexus 7 till now. Does anyone know a shop where I can play with it? I tried Staples, Fry's and Best Buy and none of them have it on display.

So everyone just bought a tablet to do the same stuff their phones do?
So all in all, tablets are just giant cellphones with no 3g/4g(mostly)
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My tablet gets rid if my headaches.
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negrobembon said:
So everyone just bought a tablet to do the same stuff their phones do?
So all in all, tablets are just giant cellphones with no 3g/4g(mostly)
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That's how I kinda felt... Every purpose it had I had something better for the same purpose... TV to watch things... Phone for communications and messing around with on the go (when I go)... Computer for computing stuff...
Not saying there isn't uses for it, just I couldn't get into it... I still go take it back to throw a new rom release on it though...

ak700 said:
Is the Nexus 7 screen big enough? I think the iPad's 9.6 inch is too big, and I haven't played with Nexus 7 till now. Does anyone know a shop where I can play with it? I tried Staples, Fry's and Best Buy and none of them have it on display.
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Yeah, I feel the iPad screen is too big also, that's why I went with 7 inch tablets. And the N7 has a high enough resolution that text is still readable when zoomed out.
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negrobembon said:
So everyone just bought a tablet to do the same stuff their phones do?
So all in all, tablets are just giant cellphones with no 3g/4g(mostly)
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Bigger screen. The difference between a 4 inch screen and a 7 inch screen is huge.

Any phone announced at CES that destroy the N4?

Like the title says, anyone see anything so far that completely blows away the N4? There are quite a few brands I am not familiar with and am wondering if they take as long to get updates like samsung, htc, etc. If a phone had significantly better specs but also got quickly updated would price be the only advantage the N4 had?

There are no major flagship phones being announced as CES. That really isn't the show for mobile.

What is the show for mobile then? I saw a few from CES that looked like it would be that manufacturers flagship.

Just the Sony Xperia Z. But everyone who's done a comparison with that phone vs Nexus 4 was a little :silly:
I dont think the Xperia Z will get any faster updates than the Nexus 4. It will promise the consumers, but in the end not provide them with the results.
Design looks cool for it. I still prefer the Nexus 4 over that. The camera sensors on Son'y phones aren't that great even pushing 13 megapixels.

The nexus 4 has been murdered by the new krait 400 that is 75% faster and the tegra 4 with 72 GPUs. These me chips make me want to sell this phone.
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kioshi said:
Just the Sony Xperia Z. But everyone who's done a comparison with that phone vs Nexus 4 was a little :silly:
I dont think the Xperia Z will get any faster updates than the Nexus 4. It will promise the consumers, but in the end not provide them with the results.
Design looks cool for it. I still prefer the Nexus 4 over that. The camera sensors on Son'y phones aren't that great even pushing 13 megapixels.
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Sony has botched updates before. The Nexus 4 will definitely get updates first, if the Xperia Z even gets them.
Samsung didn't announce a new phone, I don't even believe HTC is there. Asus may have something.
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Ace42 said:
The nexus 4 has been murdered by the new krait 400 that is 75% faster and the tegra 4 with 72 GPUs. These me chips make me want to sell this phone.
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Current technology will always get murdered by newer technology.
Stick to one and buy the next new thing 1-2 years later.
The Nexus 4 will handle the next 3 updates easily as well as new games.
My Incredible is rocking 4.2.1 rom. Everything works on it, but i use it as a Google Music stream machine and the N4 as a daily phone.
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Sony has botched updates before. The Nexus 4 will definitely get updates first, if the Xperia Z even gets them.
Samsung didn't announce a new phone, I don't even believe HTC is there. Asus may have something.
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True, and they wonder why they are doing bad in the smartphone era. Maybe if they brought some of their high end lineups from Japan to other parts of the world, they'd be able to hold up to Samsung and others.
Asus i think has a new 7in tablet and something else i read.

kioshi said:
Current technology will always get murdered by newer technology.
Stick to one and buy the next new thing 1-2 years later.
The Nexus 4 will handle the next 3 updates easily as well as new games.
My Incredible is rocking 4.2.1 rom. Everything works on it, but i use it as a Google Music stream machine and the N4 as a daily phone.
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I'm planning on upgrading in 2014/15 but the power gap is much larger now than before. Tegra 3 to krait was like 360 to Wii u however s4 to krait 400 is core2duo to i5.
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Ace42 said:
I'm planning on upgrading in 2014/15 but the power gap is much larger now than before. Tegra 3 to krait was like 360 to Wii u however s4 to krait 400 is core2duo to i5.
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thought you were going to upgrade this year haha,
I mean, core2 duo isn't that bad vs i5. I can run all my design applications + 2012 Solidworks application easily.
2014 will be a interesting year for the smartphone wars. Sprint will go away and Softbank will enter US market w/ supposedly 2500mhz band.

kioshi said:
thought you were going to upgrade this year haha,
I mean, core2 duo isn't that bad vs i5. I can run all my design applications + 2012 Solidworks application easily.
2014 will be a interesting year for the smartphone wars. Sprint will go away and Softbank will enter US market w/ supposedly 2500mhz band.
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I love this thing too much to let it go. I much rather get a pc/console for gaming and wait for octocore or little.big phones.
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Ace42 said:
The nexus 4 has been murdered by the new krait 400 that is 75% faster and the tegra 4 with 72 GPUs. These me chips make me want to sell this phone.
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What phone has this chip? Or will? ....
I hate all tegra chips. I doubt the 4 will be anygood either.
Lets not even talk about the lack of games for Andriod. I still aint seen a game thats worth a damn, and none of them are graphically intense.....
But ok we all seem to need 50 core death phones. With fricken lazers on thier back sides.
Muwahahaha

Ace42 said:
I'm planning on upgrading in 2014/15 but the power gap is much larger now than before. Tegra 3 to krait was like 360 to Wii u however s4 to krait 400 is core2duo to i5.
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Wait, what? Are you saying tegra3 to krait is a downgrade?

NoL1m1tZ said:
What is the show for mobile then? I saw a few from CES that looked like it would be that manufacturers flagship.
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The show for mobile is Mobile World Congress scheduled on February 25-28.
Also some large manufacturers can host an individual event for a single flagship release.
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I haven't seen any real phones announced yet, but who cares it'll just be more carrier crap complete with locked bootloaders, outdated versions of android with skins. And the new snapdragons and tegra 4 are beasts but I have a hard time believing at this point you'd actually notice a difference, as everything is literally instant on the nexus 4
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I think I saw an XDA booth at the show?

Cor-master said:
I haven't seen any real phones announced yet, but who cares it'll just be more carrier crap complete with locked bootloaders, outdated versions of android with skins. And the new snapdragons and tegra 4 are beasts but I have a hard time believing at this point you'd actually notice a difference, as everything is literally instant on the nexus 4
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:silly: that's why you buy it unlocked instead of buying a branded carrier locked model

hp420 said:
:silly: that's why you buy it unlocked instead of buying a branded carrier locked model
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Not in the states. At least not for a reasonable price.
At any rate for any real good phone ever get announced at CES? Usually ces guarentees a bust. The xperia ion was a big phone at CES last year, but by the time it came out, it was old news and much weaker than the competition. IMO the best phones come out in the second half of the year, the filler crap gets announced at CES
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They did announce a phone with some sandpaper taped to its back.
Word on the street is it has the potential to destroy the N4.

Factor in price and constant updates and I don't think anything comes close. A faster processor and other things like that are less important.
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jmcsk8 said:
They did announce a phone with some sandpaper taped to its back.
Word on the street is it has the potential to destroy the N4.
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He he he
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Would you buy a phablet from htc? (A galaxy note-like device)

I admit, i'm an htc fanboy for many years. Heck, this website was born from an htc device. I am waiting on the note 3 as a secondary device (to mount in the car and use as a general tablet like device while keeping my one as my main handset due to size). If htc would make something like the note, 6- 6.5 inch screen etc., i'd be all over it. I'm starting this thread as sort of a petition for such a device. I'd also value any opinions but please keep it constructive. As soon as this becomes a "my samsung beats your htc beats your iphone beats your nexus" discussion, it will be closed by moderators and rightfully so. Try to keep it positive and see how many votes we can get FOR such a device. If you hate htc, buy a samsung and have a fabulous day!
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I'm starting this thread as sort of a petition for such a device.
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Petitions. Driving the global economy.

Well we're off to a good start
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I am a galaxy note user and thinking about my next device too. I would love to see a bigger HTC One, even though Note 3 will be overwhelming, I guess. The One is just amazing. And a newer HTC One multimedia giant with nice speakers 'sounds' even better ...
For me, it will depend mainly on design (hopefully no plastic-based Note 3) and if HTC can imitate nice features like multi window or air view (or/and build up other ones).
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There are rumours all over the internet about a so-called "HTC One Max" - a 6" version of the One. I can't think of any better middle-ground between phone and tablet as I think the HTC One is a truly gorgeous device. Now if they make a tablet that is similar then I'll wee in my pants, change them and go to the shop to purchase it immediately.

Archer said:
There are rumours all over the internet about a so-called "HTC One Max" - a 6" version of the One. I can't think of any better middle-ground between phone and tablet as I think the HTC One is a truly gorgeous device. Now if they make a tablet that is similar then I'll wee in my pants, change them and go to the shop to purchase it immediately.
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Are there indeed? That's great.

adamlee011 said:
Are there indeed? That's great.
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Like I said, it's all rumours at the minute, but here's an article...
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/htc/htc-one-max/20408/htc-t6-phablet-named-htc-one-max

I'm sure they are but if there are rumors, there's a possible market for it. It seems like a risk for them right now but if the one is bringing them back , and i hope it is, they may get back in the game. They're getting atention with the one. Pa 3+ is being officially released on it soon. Do you by chance remember the htc advantage?
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Like I said, it's all rumours at the minute, but here's an article...
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/htc/htc-one-max/20408/htc-t6-phablet-named-htc-one-max
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I don't care what they call it, with snapdragon 800 and an sd slot i'm in. It does appear they've been working on a phablet regardless.
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It needs to have:
- 32GB or above MicroSD!!! If not then never mind.
- Full HD (no more halfwitted 720/800 junk. Enough with the 2001 graphics.)
- Snapdragon 800
- Pen support. It's hard to beat the Wacom-supported Spen.
- 3GB or more RAM.
For me to consider it over the Note 3. The HTC One was never a serious contender for me, because 90% of the time I do not have an active WiFi connection, and I need the large extended storage space. (You try doing 6 hours a day by train without a large pack of decent film to watch.)

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It needs to have:
- 32GB or above MicroSD!!! If not then never mind.
- Full HD (no more halfwitted 720/800 junk. Enough with the 2001 graphics.)
- Snapdragon 800
- Pen support. It's hard to beat the Wacom-supported Spen.
- 3GB or more RAM.
For me to consider it over the Note 3. The HTC One was never a serious contender for me, because 90% of the time I do not have an active WiFi connection, and I need the large extended storage space. (You try doing 6 hours a day by train without a large pack of decent film to watch.)
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I admit it was tough for me to go with a32g device. I worked it out though as I'm still using the evo lte in the car for media nav hands freedialing texting etc. That's where the phablet's going whether htc or Samsung. As long as it has a card slot 16 gig is not a problem for me. 2 meg ram is more than enough on the one but more would still be fantastic. That's where the real performance improvements come in. I'll trade 4 extra cores for a gig of ram any day.
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No removable battery?
No external sdcard support?
Locked bootloader?
Thanks...but....No thanks.
I'll stick with my S3 and S4 and look into the S5 when it comes out.
(Yes, the ATT and VZW variants of the S4 have locked bootloaders....I'm on T-Mobile...doesn't affect me (regardless of what my sig says ))
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FlyGurl said:
No removable battery?
No external sdcard support?
Locked bootloader?
Thanks...but....No thanks.
I'll stick with my S3 and S4 and look into the S5 when it comes out.
(Yes, the ATT and VZW variants of the S4 have locked bootloaders....I'm on T-Mobile...doesn't affect me (regardless of what my sig says ))
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Most phones come with locked bootloader. Anyhow this isn't a comparison of the one and s3/4. I'm looking for people who WANT an htc phablet the rumors of which imply a removable micro sd fyi.
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Most phones come with locked bootloader. Anyhow this isn't a comparison of the one and s3/4. I'm looking for people who WANT an htc phablet the rumors of which imply a removable micro sd fyi.
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Not comparing. Simply saying "no more HTC"
(This coming from someone that owned MANY HTC devices)
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Moto X vs Nexus 4

I cracked the back on my N4 today, and with all the new about the Moto X does anyone think it's worth me waiting to grab one from the Play store when they release that version? Or should I just get another N4? I haven't found any comparison benchmarks.

I just posted my thoughts on this in the other thread so I might as well share it with you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44190983&postcount=25

knitler said:
I cracked the back on my N4 today, and with all the new about the Moto X does anyone think it's worth me waiting to grab one from the Play store when they release that version? Or should I just get another N4? I haven't found any comparison benchmarks.
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Is the front glass broke as well? If not I would just order the back cover and replace it. If you do make sure you order one with the NFC antenna if that is a must for you.
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sn0warmy said:
I just posted my thoughts on this in the other thread so I might as well share it with you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44190983&postcount=25
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I had seem some references in my RSS feeds that it wouldn't be available in the Play store sometime soon. Ars suspects that it will be 2-300 from the Store as well.
If I had a good, non-broken, Nexus I wouldn't think about changing. I'm only looking because I need to purchase a phone anyway.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-Moto-X-specs-review_id45958
Needs 1080 screen
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illr said:
Is the front glass broke as well? If not I would just order the back cover and replace it. If you do make sure you order one with the NFC antenna if that is a must for you.
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No but the crack goes down the housing along the bottom too. I was at a client and leaned over a wall forgetting it was in my shirt pocket. I'm lucky it didn't totally shatter when it fell.

I'm quite interested in how they rewrote the entire Linux base to run natively on the ARM instruction set. We may see unprecedented improvement in the delay in touch response that is seen on every Android device to date.
The voice recognition also seems like a massive push, even on the hardware side. I hope that can come to the Nexus 4, but I'm worried for battery life on that front. The X doesn't have the most powerful main SoC, but it looks like it will be a solid performer.
Not that I don't love the Nexus 4. I also love new contenders!
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CWalkop said:
I'm quite interested in how they rewrote the entire Linux base to run natively on the ARM instruction set. We may see unprecedented improvement in the delay in touch response that is seen on every Android device to date.
The voice recognition also seems like a massive push, even on the hardware side. I hope that can come to the Nexus 4, but I'm worried for battery life on that front. The X doesn't have the most powerful main SoC, but it looks like it will be a solid performer.
Not that I don't love the Nexus 4. I also love new contenders!
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Well with the other cores in the computing system dedicated to voice commands and sensors won't that alleviate the s4 to perform more efficiently?
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Smallsmx3 said:
Well with the other cores in the computing system dedicated to voice commands and sensors won't that alleviate the s4 to perform more efficiently?
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It should let the S4 sit at idle for longer periods of time.

Smallsmx3 said:
Well with the other cores in the computing system dedicated to voice commands and sensors won't that alleviate the s4 to perform more efficiently?
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Exactly my thoughts. Which is mainly why I thought that it would remain a solid performer. With all the other cores dedicated to performing other tasks, the S4 should be able to do main computing tasks quite fast. It remains to be seen how powerful that GPU is, however. But with all that optimization, though, it should provide an awesome experience!
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I have to say that the Nexus 4 takes it just because of the price. The moto X is awesome but I would have hoped for it to be available sooner and more affordable but I totally understand the pricing. After all Motorola is still an OEM just like Samsung and LG and HTC, the difference is they are owned by google now ( no pun intended). Since they are still an OEM they must release phones just like any other OEM and that is via carriers unlike the nexus devices.

Honestly? I think Moto X is waaaaay cooler than Nexus 4...

Marcb said:
Honestly? I think Moto X is waaaaay cooler than Nexus 4...
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It's also moto and vzw. No thank you.
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Marcb said:
Honestly? I think Moto X is waaaaay cooler than Nexus 4...
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Yes its cooler but is it 300$ more cooler than the N4? I don't think so... ( the off contract price is 575$ - 625$ depending of storage)
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XxLostSoulxX said:
It's also moto and vzw. No thank you.
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Not only VZW, all major US carriers.

barondebxl said:
Yes its cooler but is it 300$ more cooler than the N4? I don't think so... ( the off contract price is 575$ - 625$ depending of storage)
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Not only VZW, all major US carriers.
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Yeah, I know... i'm not talking about price point here... And Moto said it would be sold in Play Store as a "Play Edition" device... so i'm expecting something like USD 499 or USD 599...

Marcb said:
Yeah, I know... i'm not talking about price point here... And Moto said it would be sold in Play Store as a "Play Edition" device... so i'm expecting something like USD 499 or USD 599...
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Yes a play store version will be available but I doubt it'll be customizable like the regular version, also t probably wont have the features the regular one has.

In theory it shouldn't have the same features if it becomes one of the "pure" devices, because it will be "pure android" so unless they push the features that it has like voice activation over to the 4.3 stream it shouldn't have them. That would be a big setback as far as I'm concerned it's a very nicely designed device and I like the customization, but there is a reason why we have N4s and not Samsung Galaxys.
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o0stryxs0o said:
In theory it shouldn't have the same features if it becomes one of the "pure" devices, because it will be "pure android" so unless they push the features that it has like voice activation over to the 4.3 stream it shouldn't have them. That would be a big setback as far as I'm concerned it's a very nicely designed device and I like the customization, but there is a reason why we have N4s and not Samsung Galaxys.
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They could just push an update to Google Search (Google Now) to support the new chip on the Moto X, responsible for the voice commands...

I'm disappointed at the price but in terms of raw power, the 2 krait 300 cores in x should be close to the performance of the n4. That means it also gets ddr3 ram etc. Im not a real big amoled fan but the partial off screen notifications... If its truly off unlike the galaxy nexus screen, it should be nice. Time will tell. When will someone actually review this thing?
The biggest thing I care about is performance to battery ratio. I underclock and try to optimize most of my devices. My nexus 4 runs Trinity kernel in dual core mode and only 1024 MHz most of the time because not much needs the whole enchilada of power with the bandwidth of these new phones and loads of ram. It seems like moto is trying to go the apple route with usability and long battery life etc. 6 hours on screen out of the box with very little drain should be the goal of all these phones when on mobile data.
They are probably shooting themselves in the foot though delaying the 32gb version outside of att. The whole hype of customization and all those links to lock it down on one carrier. Pretty foolish when you think of their exclusivity of good phones with Verizon in the past contributed to their decline.
Mildly disappointed but still holding out hope till the first real reviews come out.
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There's already a Moto X thread which is borderline off topic. The mark manning Nexus 4 vs Any other phone thread is probably where this discussion should take place.
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