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childs gift and rooting

i purchased 2 nook tablets for an 8 and 11 year old. im debating whether to not root it because i think it wil be easier for them to follow interface and the only downside i see is having to pay for apps that may be free on amazon or play store. can i have some input here? is there a super easy rooted rom that a child can follow? or are there many free aps if i just keep it as an out of box nook. thanks so much guys

Rooting by someone()'s All-in-one at the Nook HD, HD+ General section works great for me as it is very easy. The HD+ still works like the original and at the same time can use apps from Play Store (or side load). Only if you want B&N updates it could mean losing your root, but as someone() disabled automatic updates you can wait with updating until others have checked the effects of the updates.
Getting ADB working is the most difficult part. I already had a so called 8bootloop, restoring the original software after experimenting a bit too much, but within half an hour I got it all working again. B&N profiles were updated after logging in, even the profile I already made for my daughter was available. Just my view, more experience users may correct me.

gorelow said:
i purchased 2 nook tablets for an 8 and 11 year old. im debating whether to not root it because i think it wil be easier for them to follow interface and the only downside i see is having to pay for apps that may be free on amazon or play store. can i have some input here? is there a super easy rooted rom that a child can follow? or are there many free aps if i just keep it as an out of box nook. thanks so much guys
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Do you mean Nook Tablets or Nook HD or HD+? They are different devices.
Sent from my NookColor running CM10 on SD using Tapatalk.

If all you are looking for is apps, you can side load without rooting, just load on your machine then adb install. I find s lot of free apps don't even show up for tablet, but I copy over from my phone and adb install them, usually without problem
Ps, you can also load a different launcher of course....
Sent from my BNTV600 using xda app-developers app

i was actually talking about the original nook tablet. i didnt know you could sideload without rooting. does that mean i also dont have to block the otas? thanks

gorelow said:
i was actually talking about the original nook tablet. i didnt know you could sideload without rooting. does that mean i also dont have to block the otas? thanks
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Yep we are all hd folk here, can't speak to the tablet, but so far the ota hasn't borked us. And once adb is working, you can side load anything as long as it doesn't touch /system. Including a launcher which is highly recommended since the b&n launcher won't show all the apps easily.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app

gorelow said:
i was actually talking about the original nook tablet. i didnt know you could sideload without rooting. does that mean i also dont have to block the otas? thanks
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If you can get ADB working on your nook tablet you should be able to sideload apps without rooting. And they should be safe if B&N sends an update to the ROM. But you might get better advice by posting in the Nook Tablet forum. Users there know more about the Tablet.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD

leapinlar said:
If you can get ADB working on your nook tablet you should be able to sideload apps without rooting. And they should be safe if B&N sends an update to the ROM. But you might get better advice by posting in the Nook Tablet forum. Users there know more about the Tablet.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD
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sorry didnt realize tis wasnt the reg nook forum thanks

[Q] New Nook HD+ questions

I have a new Nook HD+, upgraded from the Tablet (which I loved), and so far am enjoying it alot. Got a new SanDisk Ultra 64gb micro SDXC I class 10 memory card for it. Have several hundred B&N proprietary books and several hundred bought from other sites including a few really large medical texts and journals that are fairly graphic intense. Can anyone give me any advise regarding setting this up to get the maximun use (the Nook experience) for this card? I am still learning alot and not real computer savvy so use small words.... I see alot of words like Rooting and CM10 and am not sure what all of this means as of yet. Appreciate any and all help I can get and hope this is the correct forum to post this in.
Thanks
Pookie

If books and reading are your priority, I would get the Play store up and running so you can install other readers. Generally rooting is for more involved application s and android tweaking. Going to cm10 is really more about a native android tablet experience, May not be important to you. See leapinlars thread in development to install the changes and enjoy!
Ps the reason for the play store is the paucity of apps from b&n
Sent from my BNTV600 using xda app-developers app

pookiebr74 said:
I have a new Nook HD+, upgraded from the Tablet (which I loved), and so far am enjoying it alot. Got a new SanDisk Ultra 64gb micro SDXC I class 10 memory card for it. Have several hundred B&N proprietary books and several hundred bought from other sites including a few really large medical texts and journals that are fairly graphic intense. Can anyone give me any advise regarding setting this up to get the maximun use (the Nook experience) for this card? I am still learning alot and not real computer savvy so use small words.... I see alot of words like Rooting and CM10 and am not sure what all of this means as of yet. Appreciate any and all help I can get and hope this is the correct forum to post this in.
Thanks
Pookie
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If you came from the Nook Tablet running stock software and using B&N proprietary books, you probably want to keep running stock B&N on the HD+. So I would recommend you go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and flash the Gapps + Extras zip with my CWM SD. That way you can enjoy your B&N content and use Play Store to get and install more applications to get the most out of the Android experience.
Sent from my HD+ running CM10 on SD with XDA Premium

Re: Nook HD+ question
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If you came from the Nook Tablet running stock software and using B&N proprietary books, you probably want to keep running stock B&N on the HD+. So I would recommend you go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and flash the Gapps + Extras zip with my CWM SD. That way you can enjoy your B&N content and use Play Store to get and install more applications to get the most out of the Android experience.
Sent from my HD+ running CM10 on SD with XDA Premium
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Do I do this to the card on a desktop then mount it to my Nook or mount it to the Nook and download those zips to it there? If I do it to the SD card using the computer and adaptor then, when I mount the card will the Nook want to reformat it or should it just recognize the card/zip? Have a smaller card I may just try it on first to make sure I do it right. If I make an error or have trouble will reformatting the card return it to its initial "state" or would it be ruined and a new one required? I appreciate the information. The instructions seem to be written pretty straight forward so hopefully I wont have any trouble as, previously mentioned, I am somewhat lacking in computer-ese.
Thank you

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Do I do this to the card on a desktop then mount it to my Nook or mount it to the Nook and download those zips to it there? If I do it to the SD card using the computer and adaptor then, when I mount the card will the Nook want to reformat it or should it just recognize the card/zip? Have a smaller card I may just try it on first to make sure I do it right. If I make an error or have trouble will reformatting the card return it to its initial "state" or would it be ruined and a new one required? I appreciate the information. The instructions seem to be written pretty straight forward so hopefully I wont have any trouble as, previously mentioned, I am somewhat lacking in computer-ese.
Thank you
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You do everything on the PC until you are ready to install to the nook. Then you put the card in the nook, boot and a new program will come up automatically. Just follow the directions in the thread.
And you can reuse the card for something else later if you want.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD

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You do everything on the PC until you are ready to install to the nook. Then you put the card in the nook, boot and a new program will come up automatically. Just follow the directions in the thread.
And you can reuse the card for something else later if you want.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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" I have a second zip which adds Gapps/Play Store and enables Unknown Sources along with setting OTA (Over the Air) updates to manual. You can download my NookHD-HDplus-Gapps+Extras-for-stock-rev1.zip here " <--------So this is the only thing I really need to download and install to the SD card then it would appear correct? This is applicable to both HD and HD+ from what I read?
Will give it a try and see what happens
Thank you

pookiebr74 said:
" I have a second zip which adds Gapps/Play Store and enables Unknown Sources along with setting OTA (Over the Air) updates to manual. You can download my NookHD-HDplus-Gapps+Extras-for-stock-rev1.zip here " <--------So this is the only thing I really need to download and install to the SD card then it would appear correct? This is applicable to both HD and HD+ from what I read?
Will give it a try and see what happens
Thank you
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You need to download the file and copy it to the card. Then insert the card in the nook and boot. The CWM program will come up and your have to choose install zip from SD. The rest of the directions are in the cyanogenmod recovery section of that thread. Just follow the instructions there. When done you take the card out and boot back to stock and you have Play Store that you can use to install even more apps.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD

soft keys and notification
how do i get the soft keys on cm10 nook hd+ to be seperate from the status bar?
i want to have the status bar on the top and the soft keys on bottom just like on the nexus 10.
and are there any ports for miui and aokp for the nook hd+ dual boot?

Zachinater said:
how do i get the soft keys on cm10 nook hd+ to be seperate from the status bar?
i want to have the status bar on the top and the soft keys on bottom just like on the nexus 10.
and are there any ports for miui and aokp for the nook hd+ dual boot?
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CM10 (Android 4.1) has three graphical interfaces. Phone, tablet and phablet. Phone for small devices, tablet for big devices and phablet for medium devices. The interface is controlled mostly by screen density and size. The tablet has the single combined navigation/status bar at the bottom. The other two have the split controls like you want. When Android went to 4.2 it did away with the tablet interface, so that is what you probably saw on the Nexus 10. To make the HD+ running CM10 move to the split phablet interface you need to raise the lcd density in /system/build.prop. The default for the HD+ is 240. You need to raise that to get to phablet. I don't know the exact figure. I know 300 is phablet. Or you could just switch to CM10.1 (4.2).
And CM10/CM10.1 are the only alternate ROMs for the HD+.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD

thanks
leapinlar said:
CM10 (Android 4.1) has three graphical interfaces. Phone, tablet and phablet. Phone for small devices, tablet for big devices and phablet for medium devices. The interface is controlled mostly by screen density and size. The tablet has the single combined navigation/status bar at the bottom. The other two have the split controls like you want. When Android went to 4.2 it did away with the tablet interface, so that is what you probably saw on the Nexus 10. To make the HD+ running CM10 move to the split phablet interface you need to raise the lcd density in /system/build.prop. The default for the HD+ is 240. You need to raise that to get to phablet. I don't know the exact figure. I know 300 is phablet. Or you could just switch to CM10.1 (4.2).
And CM10/CM10.1 are the only alternate ROMs for the HD+.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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thanks for the help. any ideas on when the next update for cm10.1 will be out. i want to switch but i want a more stable version.
and how do i switch the kernal on cm10 nook hd+ to one that can overclock?
thanks

Zachinater said:
and how do i switch the kernal on cm10 nook hd+ to one that can overclock?
thanks
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You can't. There is not one available.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD

leapinlar said:
You can't. There is not one available.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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Do you think there will ever be any kernels other than stock on the HD/HD+?
Your wealth of knowledge and helpfullness is awesome; and for that, I thank you.

codya321 said:
Do you think there will ever be any kernels other than stock on the HD/HD+?
Your wealth of knowledge and helpfullness is awesome; and for that, I thank you.
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Yes, will be ... if anyone start work on this ... or current dev's have time for this. HD+ is so new ... and actually little bit specific and not common item.

[Q] How to keep stock Nook HD+ reader app after installing CM10.1?

Hey guys, I am about to root and install CM10.1 on my new Nook HD+. However, I absolutely hate the Nook app that comes in the Play Store and would like to keep the stock HD+ reader app for my ebooks as I read a lot and like it so much better. Is there a way to do this, like apply just a root to the stock ROM and copy the APK over or something like that?
Looking forward to all replies,
Chris

xPisces said:
Hey guys, I am about to root and install CM10.1 on my new Nook HD+. However, I absolutely hate the Nook app that comes in the Play Store and would like to keep the stock HD+ reader app for my ebooks as I read a lot and like it so much better. Is there a way to do this, like apply just a root to the stock ROM and copy the APK over or something like that?
Looking forward to all replies,
Chris
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Nope. The stock nook app will not run on CM. The only thing you can do is dual boot. That is, put stock or CM on internal memory and stock or CM on SD. You can do it either way.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

Running the stock Android version of the Nook Reader might not be an issue anyway; apparently you can't even get it to run without sideloading it.
Of course, since I cracked all my Nook books so I could read them in a generic reader app, it's not really much of an issue for me.

leapinlar said:
Nope. The stock nook app will not run on CM. The only thing you can do is dual boot. That is, put stock or CM on internal memory and stock or CM on SD. You can do it either way.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app
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So the only thing I can pretty much do is get an eReader app from the Play Store to read my books? Which one do you think is best and do you use?
Thanks for thr help,
Chris

xPisces said:
So the only thing I can pretty much do is get an eReader app from the Play Store to read my books? Which one do you think is best and do you use?
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Two of the better ones are Aldiko and Moon+. Both have free and premium versions. Note that if you're using Calibre to strip the DRM, you could just as easily convert them into mobi format while you're at it and read them with the Kindle reader, too.

Robotech_Master said:
Two of the better ones are Aldiko and Moon+. Both have free and premium versions. Note that if you're using Calibre to strip the DRM, you could just as easily convert them into mobi format while you're at it and read them with the Kindle reader, too.
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I want to second Aldiko. I have been using it for years now. The best part is there is an Aldiko Sync app that will use dropbox to keep your library and more importantly your POSITION in your books synced across MULTIPLE devices. Takes a little setup but once done you can seamlessly jump from tablet to phone to your other tablet and back. As long as you leave the reader app, by time you can pick up the other device its been updated via sync!.

xPisces said:
So the only thing I can pretty much do is get an eReader app from the Play Store to read my books? Which one do you think is best and do you use?
Thanks for thr help,
Chris
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I use a combination of Calibre Companion and Overdrive Media Console. After using Calibre Companion to pull the books from my PC over WiFi, opening them from that app gives the choice of which epub reader to open it with. Overdrive will show up in the list and import the book flawlessly (typically it is only intended to import Adobe DRMed epubs from public library sites). I find that Overdrive is the best epub reader next to the stock Nook reader, followed by the Nook app. Note that this method relies on your epubs not having any DRM. Slickpub is a new epub reader that is very fast and simple but is not quite there yet. Fabrik is another excellent reader, but it's very slow. You can install the Nook app from the 1Mobile market (which you will have to download from their website, it's not in the Play Store).

I too would like to run the nook reader in CM. Some of the decent alternatives include fbreader, alreader, coolreader, moonreader, and aldiko (don't judge them by the defaults, which range from bad to completely insane).
My current method of selecting books is to use ES File Explorer to locate the book and create a shortcut.

I downloaded the Nook apk provided in this thread, works on my HD, I'm on Slimbean.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294967
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using xda app-developers app

Just had to post here again. Even though you still can't use Play Books to read epubs stored on your device, I just discovered you can now upload epubs to Play Books and then they will show up in your Play Books library. Still a pretty basic reader but better than most. Still debating whether or not I want to upload my entire library to Play.

Any change in status?
Gosh, so close to rooting my nook, and pretty much the only thing I like about it is its E-Reader ability... so no change in status on this? No way to keep the native reader after installing CM 10.1 or 10.2?

gregorcarbine said:
Gosh, so close to rooting my nook, and pretty much the only thing I like about it is its E-Reader ability... so no change in status on this? No way to keep the native reader after installing CM 10.1 or 10.2?
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Nope, but you can put stock OS and ereader on SD and CM on emmc and boot to SD when you want to read.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

That sounds like winning to me!
Thanks Leap! That's a great idea, I had been considering installing CM to SD, but never actually considered the reverse of that and from what I've read CM is more stable on eMMc. Is there a link to a particular guide, or would I just insert the Stock install in place of a CM install from one of the tutorials for setting it up on SD card? Also, I've been debating just rooting, and adding the ability to install unknown apk's from one of your other tutorials. What is your opinion on that option?
Also, I maybe over analyze these situations, but one of the video tutorials I watched which seemed to be thorough and effective recommended not just doing a factory reset but also wiping the cache and the dalvic/k? cache, before installing CM... is that a correct process, overkill, or something that could cause problems down the line? I ask because I never read anything about doing that in your CM 10.1/10.2 post. Thanks again for your time and info. Have a great day!
P.S. After trying to become more effective on my own I finally found the Stock from SD link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2330083 <--- There it is for anyone else who may have the same interest as I do
Thanks again Leap! P.S... can I use your universal root rev3 to root stock on sd? I know you had a link to old extras to allow outside apk's for stock on sd, just curious.

gregorcarbine said:
Thanks Leap! That's a great idea, I had been considering installing CM to SD, but never actually considered the reverse of that and from what I've read CM is more stable on eMMc. Is there a link to a particular guide, or would I just insert the Stock install in place of a CM install from one of the tutorials for setting it up on SD card? Also, I've been debating just rooting, and adding the ability to install unknown apk's from one of your other tutorials. What is your opinion on that option?
Also, I maybe over analyze these situations, but one of the video tutorials I watched which seemed to be thorough and effective recommended not just doing a factory reset but also wiping the cache and the dalvic/k? cache, before installing CM... is that a correct process, overkill, or something that could cause problems down the line? I ask because I never read anything about doing that in your CM 10.1/10.2 post. Thanks again for your time and info. Have a great day!
P.S. After trying to become more effective on my own I finally found the Stock from SD link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2330083 <--- There it is for anyone else who may have the same interest as I do
Thanks again Leap! P.S... can I use your universal root rev3 to root stock on sd? I know you had a link to old extras to allow outside apk's for stock on sd, just curious.
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If you read the instructions on that thread verygreen tells you how to root it as part of installing. Do not use the universal root. But you can use the extras I made for stock on SD.
And you do not need to wipe dalvik and cache in addition to factory reseting. The factory reset already wipes both.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

Thanks a ton!
You have been extremely awesome in helping me mentally prepare to enter the wonderful world of modding my Nook HD+. Just tons of information here so it's really helped to have someone provide some feedback! Thanks again!

gregorcarbine said:
Gosh, so close to rooting my nook, and pretty much the only thing I like about it is its E-Reader ability... so no change in status on this? No way to keep the native reader after installing CM 10.1 or 10.2?
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Have you tried out other (Android) ereader apps?
FWIW I've been using the Mantano ereader (free version) and like it far better than the stock ROM Nook ereader.

Weirdest Issue
Hey, so I'm trying to format my SD card with SDformatter v4.0 and every time it hangs at 50% and it just sits there saying it's not responding? I've uninstalled and reinstalled SDformatter and redownloaded in case I had a bad download or something, but it still hangs everytime... it seems pretty simple and straight forward, and for double check I tried to format with native windows format and zipped right through just fine...?
If this continues to be an issue, can I use Easeus partition manager to do both the formatting and setting active?
P.S. No once I crack it open to android it will be my first full android experience, I have had a iphone for years but when this contract is up am likely switching to android for my handset as well.

gregorcarbine said:
Hey, so I'm trying to format my SD card with SDformatter v4.0 and every time it hangs at 50% and it just sits there saying it's not responding? I've uninstalled and reinstalled SDformatter and redownloaded in case I had a bad download or something, but it still hangs everytime... it seems pretty simple and straight forward, and for double check I tried to format with native windows format and zipped right through just fine...?
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SDFormatter actually rewrites the format and Windows format just quick formats, assuming the original format is ok. You probably have a defective SD.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

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leapinlar said:
SDFormatter actually rewrites the format and Windows format just quick formats, assuming the original format is ok. You probably have a defective SD.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app
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Hahaha, well back to wal-mart I will go lol.Stupid sdcard
What's really weird is I can't even close SDFormatter from Taskmanager, just stays there even after 10-15 minutes and trying to shut it down a ton of times.
What does happen if I try to use Easeus?
Also, have formatted several times with Easeus and it does so fine, but after easeus format it hangs without even getting to 50%, literally SD Formatter dies at 0%... it's just so weird??? :-/
Have another SD card in the package I'm about to try, it's not micro but that shouldn't matter. If it formats that one I'm headed to wal-mart again, if not I may just risk trying the other one if it seems to be my rig not liking SD Formatter.
P.S. I've had easeus run an error test and the original micro I'm trying is coming up clean...?
Yeah SD Formatter just hung up at 20% for another brand new out of the box sandisk brand card... I'm gonna try an adapter and see if it's just my port that SD Formatter hates, but after that I'm gonna have to just go easeus route I guess...
Update!
Verdict is in! Turns out SD Formatter hates my native SD card reader, just borrowed my wifes usb adapter and it formatted super fine and super fast... Ugh, so dumb, but now I'm good to go!

[Q] General Help and Discussion needed...

Greetings,
I recently just purchased some Nook HD+ tablets and am new to the Android platform. I have yet to open the Nooks. I have spent the past two nights reading here about how to root, sideload, and other similar topics. I have gathered a small bit of understanding from the readings in my free time but I am now ready to get serious and would like a few questions answered before I begin, just to help me grasp it all completely. Once, I have these few basic questions out of the way, then I'll really get into deciding on a route to take and see whats best for me. I understand some would rather say "read this" and just redirect me but if you post, for the sake of discussion please entertain my questions.
1) Does the B&N stock android software offer any advantages, even if only one, (specific app, or feature) over custom android software? Out the box is it like stock Android 4.0.3 with B&N overlay similar to *Sense or is it B&N software through and through like Fire OS?
2) I have seen two "groups" N2A and another which I forget at the moment, that offer pre-made image files for download or MicroSD cards for purchase. Are these all the same files no matter where they come from or are they unique? Are all variations of CyanogenMod or are they from the ground up different? What is the significance of using one over the other?
3) Lastly, is there a very plain (vanilla) stock Android 4.4.2 for Nook HD+ that would be like virtually getting it from Google themselves? I'm talking from bootscreen to features and functions. Or all roms will have some sort of custom "branding" in them?
Thank you for helping me get started. I am sure I'll have more questions as this thread develops. Again, I appreciate any kindness offered.

1. There are only a couple of advantages of the stock OS besides being very stable. You have access to the B&N store apps if you made prior purchases on other devices. But the biggest advantage for some users is the reader app. It is better and smoother than the Nook reader app for Android. Plus it will read children's interactive books and Nook for Android app will not. The OS is pretty much Android with a B&N interface overlaid and replacing Google's. I don't know how to compare to Sense or FireOS since I have never seen either. But some things are totally different than Google, for instance in settings there is no Enable Unknown Sources setting.
2. The pre-made images are exactly the same as you get here. The only differences are that they do the work for you and furnish the SD cards.
3. There are several ROMs here that tweak the interface, but most are just variations of CM. You will have to research them yourself.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

So far so good...
Thanks...
Is there anyway to get the updated 4.4.2 rom with the B&N overlay so that you get the B&N store or thats not possible? Also similar question for the Reader app itself? Has it been transported or is development in process on transporting it. Or is that not going to happen either.
I have no prior purchases from B&N and don't foresee me buying any in the future as I can convert my own files from purchases elsewhere. So I'm leaning toward updating. I see different variations of the updated rom. Is there a way to install the rom direct to the device, therefore leaving the MicroSD card slot free to use as storage? Or is that not recommended because it erases the Stock OS. Is running the OS directly from the device or from the MicroSD card more stable? Just general knowledge about CPUs and data transfers, I would imagine running the OS from the MicroSD card drains the battery a bit more and would exhibit some lag in comparison to running directly from the device internally, or is this not a problem?

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Thanks...
Is there anyway to get the updated 4.4.2 rom with the B&N overlay so that you get the B&N store or thats not possible? Also similar question for the Reader app itself? Has it been transported or is development in process on transporting it. Or is that not going to happen either.
I have no prior purchases from B&N and don't foresee me buying any in the future as I can convert my own files from purchases elsewhere. So I'm leaning toward updating. I see different variations of the updated rom. Is there a way to install the rom direct to the device, therefore leaving the MicroSD card slot free to use as storage? Or is that not recommended because it erases the Stock OS. Is running the OS directly from the device or from the MicroSD card more stable? Just general knowledge about CPUs and data transfers, I would imagine running the OS from the MicroSD card drains the battery a bit more and would exhibit some lag in comparison to running directly from the device internally, or is this not a problem?
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For the first two questions, no and no.
Yes if you look at the dummies guide linked in my signature there are directions there for installing to internal memory. But even if you install to SD it is pretty stable and the part of the SD not used for the operating system is available for storage. There is really no difference on battery or lag. And your warranty is intact. Just pop out the card and stock is not affected. That said, I use CM10.1.3 on internal memory and love it.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

Almost done...
If I do install to internal memory, I lose my warranty? Is there a way to re-install B&N stock OS if I need my warranty later?
When choosing to run from the MicroSD can you see the files that are on the internal Nook memory or is it non-existent?
Also, Is it still relevant to use older slower MicroSD cards, or has the process improved over time and cured this? I happen to have a 32GB Sandisk Extreme laying around and want to know if It's necessary to go out and buy a new Sandisk 32GB Class 4. I've found some for about $18 from reputable retailers so not a problem but I do have the 32GB Extreme laying here lol.
Backing up to a question before... Do all the roms have a custom boot screen and "branding" or is there one available that would be vanilla android 4.4.2?

ecsjr said:
If I do install to internal memory, I lose my warranty? Is there a way to re-install B&N stock OS if I need my warranty later?
When choosing to run from the MicroSD can you see the files that are on the internal Nook memory or is it non-existent?
Also, Is it still relevant to use older slower MicroSD cards, or has the process improved over time and cured this? I happen to have a 32GB Sandisk Extreme laying around and want to know if It's necessary to go out and buy a new Sandisk 32GB Class 4. I've found some for about $18 from reputable retailers so not a problem but I do have the 32GB Extreme laying here lol.
Backing up to a question before... Do all the roms have a custom boot screen and "branding" or is there one available that would be vanilla android 4.4.2?
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First questions. Yes and yes.
And I don't known what you mean by non-existent. All files can be seen with root file managers.
And yes old slower cards are still best. But you can try that extreme and see how it works.
And all replacement ROMs show the 'cyanoboot' logo on booting if that is what you mean (the Nook has a locked bootloader so 'nook' always shows too). No pure vanilla. And 4.4.2 is still too cutting edge in my view. Stick with 4.2 (CM10.1) or 4.3 (CM10.2) .
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I truly appreciate the chat...
Thanks,
When I get home today, I'm going to update the Nook HD+ using your guide in the signature. It all seems relatively straightforward. I'll comeback to post my conclusions and any further questions I may have. But thank you.

Charged up...
Ok so I'm charged up and power on the device, register it and get the Update notification:
I am on ver. 2.1.1, if I choose to update the stock OS to the latest version will that have any affect on me later deciding to update to CM?

ecsjr said:
Ok so I'm charged up and power on the device, register it and get the Update notification:
I am on ver. 2.1.1, if I choose to update the stock OS to the latest version will that have any affect on me later deciding to update to CM?
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No, as long as you registration it with B&N before you put CM on it, it does not matter what version you had on it. I don't believe it, but others have commented that it gets harder to boot from SD once you have put 2.2.0 on it.
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Got it..
Thanks.

Universal root...
In the Guide I see Universal Root Rev0 and Rev3 both sound similar to what I think I want to do, just don't know which to pick? I'm running B&N Stock and want to be able to install .apk from unknown sources leaving everything else pretty much untouched.

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In the Guide I see Universal Root Rev0 and Rev3 both sound similar to what I think I want to do, just don't know which to pick? I'm running B&N Stock and want to be able to install .apk from unknown sources leaving everything else pretty much untouched.
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Rev0 is outdated and not even available anymore. But you don't need to root at all to just to enable unknown sources. Just flash the zip. Root is not necessary.
BTW, what guide are you talking about? The Dummies Guide does not mention Universal Root. Do you mean my HD/HD+ CWM thread?
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Update and some questions...lol
So I have CM 10.2.1-ovation running on internal Nook HD+ using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500. I noticed the Recovery menu is 6.0.2.8... Is is necessary to update this to the newer 6.0.3.6? What are the differences? Even if not, can you point me in the right direction, if not willing to explain how to get it updated?
Moving on...
I have my backup of B&N stock saved.
I used my Sandisk 32GB Extreme Plus microSDHC card and didn't encounter any errors to my knowledge lol.
I guess thats pretty much it, its done.
A few questions about the platform, apps, whats important vs not, etc...
1) I have apps spread out across the 4 or so blades. Coming from iOS platform, I usually ONLY use another blade if current one is full. Is there a reason why some apps are on first blade vs middle blade? Is there a reason why the media widget is on the desktop, etc? Am I free to remove these any way I want? What about the bottom dock/home buttons there are three I believe. The Gmail, Browser, and something else I forget, I think contacts. Can you touch on this area.
2) Certain apps like gmail, google+, Apollo, Voice dialer, whisper push all seem unnecessary to me as I do not use them or know what they are used for yet. Can you elaborate their usage. Can these be uninstalled, or removed in any way. I of course would like to keep the Google Play store.
3) The clock and date on the homescreen, is that a third-party widget or is that the Stock Android system? Is the customizable (font and size) without a third-party app or is it only like this?
4) I am looking for the ESPN SportsCenter app and noticed it's not compatible with my device. It says it's for Phones only. If I am able to find the .apk will Android allow for me to install on the Nook even though it's not a Phone it's a tablet?

ecsjr said:
So I have CM 10.2.1-ovation running on internal Nook HD+ using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500. I noticed the Recovery menu is 6.0.2.8... Is is necessary to update this to the newer 6.0.3.6? What are the differences? Even if not, can you point me in the right direction, if not willing to explain how to get it updated?
Moving on...
I have my backup of B&N stock saved.
I used my Sandisk 32GB Extreme Plus microSDHC card and didn't encounter any errors to my knowledge lol.
I guess thats pretty much it, its done.
A few questions about the platform, apps, whats important vs not, etc...
1) I have apps spread out across the 4 or so blades. Coming from iOS platform, I usually ONLY use another blade if current one is full. Is there a reason why some apps are on first blade vs middle blade? Is there a reason why the media widget is on the desktop, etc? Am I free to remove these any way I want? What about the bottom dock/home buttons there are three I believe. The Gmail, Browser, and something else I forget, I think contacts. Can you touch on this area.
2) Certain apps like gmail, google+, Apollo, Voice dialer, whisper push all seem unnecessary to me as I do not use them or know what they are used for yet. Can you elaborate their usage. Can these be uninstalled, or removed in any way. I of course would like to keep the Google Play store.
3) The clock and date on the homescreen, is that a third-party widget or is that the Stock Android system? Is the customizable (font and size) without a third-party app or is it only like this?
4) I am looking for the ESPN SportsCenter app and noticed it's not compatible with my device. It says it's for Phones only. If I am able to find the .apk will Android allow for me to install on the Nook even though it's not a Phone it's a tablet?
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You are jumping all over the place. Your previous question was for applying root to stock and enabling unknown sources. Now you have installed CM10.2.1.
No, you do not need to update that 6028.
And the rest of your questions are specific to CM10.2 now. You are best asking those questions in the CM10.2 thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389813
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Sorry about that...
leapinlar said:
You are jumping all over the place. Your previous question was for applying root to stock and enabling unknown sources. Now you have installed CM10.2.1.
No, you do not need to update that 6028.
And the rest of your questions are specific to CM10.2 now. You are best asking those questions in the CM10.2 thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389813
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I'm working on two separate tablets... I kept one stock and the other CM.

Back with more...
So far all is well on the Nook HD+ with CM 10.2.1... I appreciate your guide link and help.
Now with the Nook HD+ that is on Stock B&N. To enable Unknown Sources leaving the B&N stock, earlier you use the phrase "Flash the zip" is all I need to do. Can you explain a bit more what that means or any pointer is helpful. Thank you.

ecsjr said:
So far all is well on the Nook HD+ with CM 10.2.1... I appreciate your guide link and help.
Now with the Nook HD+ that is on Stock B&N. To enable Unknown Sources leaving the B&N stock, earlier you use the phrase "Flash the zip" is all I need to do. Can you explain a bit more what that means or any pointer is helpful. Thank you.
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Get the zip from my HD/HD+ CWM thread (item 3). Boot to CWM and install (flash) the zip just like you did the CM zip on the other device. It changes a hidden setting in stock to allow you to install applications from sources other than the Nook Store or Play Store.
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Update...
leapinlar said:
Get the zip from my HD/HD+ CWM thread (item 3). Boot to CWM and install (flash) the zip just like you did the CM zip on the other device. It changes a hidden setting in stock to allow you to install applications from sources other than the Nook Store or Play Store.
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Perfect thanks.
UPDATE: Using Root Explorer. Any recommendations of a better file manager, I like Root Explorer, just new to the platform so I don't really know what else is good? Also, what is the process for returning my now 4GB mSD to its full 32GB? Thank you for all the help.

ecsjr said:
Perfect thanks.
UPDATE: Using Root Explorer. Any recommendations of a better file manager, I like Root Explorer, just new to the platform so I don't really know what else is good? Also, what is the process for returning my now 4GB mSD to its full 32GB? Thank you for all the help.
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Root Explorer is the best.
And you should not have used a 32GB SD as your CWM SD. You should have used a relatively small 4-8Gb SD so you can keep it for future use. You WILL need it again. That said, you can return it to 32Gb by using the program SDFormatter free on the web.
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Switching cards
leapinlar said:
Root Explorer is the best.
And you should not have used a 32GB SD as your CWM SD. You should have used a relatively small 4-8Gb SD so you can keep it for future use. You WILL need it again. That said, you can return it to 32Gb by using the program SDFormatter free on the web.
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My first complete backup and wipe for the CM10.2.1 tablet isn't mine and I will no longer need that full CM10.2.1 setup. However I did use that card to flash the zip on the Stock B&N because I felt it was easier to follow your instructions that way... Now for future reference, I do have a small 2GB card I wanted to use following this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 method under "1a" to make a small CWM to simply flash the Stock B&N in the future. Is this possible? Or does it always have to be 4GB?

Virtual machine ?

I would like to put the HD 8 tablet into a virtual machine. However I can't seem to find a VM that supports it, or the proper file format to plug into one. Anyone have ideas?

First of all, this is the Amazon Fire 7" (5th Gen) sub-forum. The HD 8 is a totally different device.
Second, your question makes no sense. Are you trying to run a VM on your tablet, or are you trying to run a VM on your PC that runs the FireOS software? Either way, there's no such way to make it happen.

crazyates said:
Either way, there's no such way to make it happen.
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There IS a way to run a VM on the Fire tablets but it's not that usable.

Pix12 said:
There IS a way to run a VM on the Fire tablets but it's not that usable.
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Yeah I read that too. I also read, but can't find again, you can use the build.prop to set one up.

DragonFire1024 said:
Yeah I read that too. I also read, but can't find again, you can use the build.prop to set one up.
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VMware runs on the tablets and you can have a virtual desktop from your PC. If that's the case, there has to be a way to get your virtual tablet on your real desktop.

crazyates said:
First of all, this is the Amazon Fire 7" (5th Gen) sub-forum. The HD 8 is a totally different device.
Second, your question makes no sense. Are you trying to run a VM on your tablet, or are you trying to run a VM on your PC that runs the FireOS software? Either way, there's no such way to make it happen.
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Doesn't matter. The same should apply to any Amazon tablet in regards to this anyways.

Anywhere to get a FireOS .iso? Can the source code on their site be compiled into one, or into something VMware would recognize? Currently there is no way to make these tablets a VM. Amazon stopped supporting emulators on their site in 2014. I really don't want to do the testing I want to do directly on my device. I may have found a way to root, but I don't want to test it on the physical device. So if I can't find a way to emulate it, I don't know if I will be comfortable trying/testing my possible method.

DragonFire1024 said:
Anywhere to get a FireOS .iso? Can the source code on their site be compiled into one, or into something VMware would recognize? Currently there is no way to make these tablets a VM. Amazon stopped supporting emulators on their site in 2014. I really don't want to do the testing I want to do directly on my device. I may have found a way to root, but I don't want to test it on the physical device. So if I can't find a way to emulate it, I don't know if I will be comfortable trying/testing my possible method.
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Lol - you will have better luck finding vacuum tubes for a 1950s era Zenith TV. Many devs/enthusiasts acquire scrifical devices (perhaps with a cracked but functioning screen) off auction sites. Cost of being in the game.

Davey126 said:
Lol - you will have better luck finding vacuum tubes for a 1950s era Zenith TV. Many devs/enthusiasts acquire scrifical devices (perhaps with a cracked but functioning screen) off auction sites. Cost of being in the game.
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Doesn't matter anyways. I was using an app that tells you all the permissions another app has, or has asked for. I was then comparing the list of granted permissions with the list of permissions that app has. I managed to get the commands for checking granted permissions, but I can't find the command(s) for checking the permissions an app has ASKED for, but WASN'T granted them. The idea was to use ADB to add/grant the permissions the app asked for, but didn't get. You can only grant certain permissions to apps when they ask for the permission(s). So I was hoping to gain root by adding all the permissions Kingroot needed, but didn't receive, because it doesn't have root access/authority.