On every 4.3 Google Edition ROM I've tried, my MMS won't download unless data is on. Previously, I've hadd MMS messages turn on data just to download it, then turn it back off. Even if I'm connected to WiFi, if I have data toggled off, it won't download MMS.
Before anyone asks, yes, I do have "automatically retrieve MMS" enabled.
Is this problem just common with 4.3 or does anyone know how to fix this?
After flashing a 4.3 AOSP ROM, I'm having the same issue. Is this a general 4.3 issue? Is there something additional I need to flash?
That is the correct behavior. Remember, Google is your friend.
Addiso said:
No it's strictly data. Think of it this way, texts are sent through your data signal and service so in order to receive that picture you download it through your data which uses that signal to retrieve it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38705723
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I understand that MMS can only download through data, but previously, I would be able to download MMS even if the data toggle is off. It would turn on just to receive the MMS, then turn back off. Now, I don't even know that there's an MMS sent to me if I have data toggled off.
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There have been a few discussions about this, but I have yet to find a solution that works for me...
I flashed CM6 today and now I'm finding that when I enable wifi, my 3g data connection is lost. Not sure this is really a CM problem, I just want to find a fix.
My setup:
Nexus One - CM6.RC1 - FRF91
williec30 said:
There have been a few discussions about this, but I have yet to find a solution that works for me...
I flashed CM6 today and now I'm finding that when I enable wifi, my 3g data connection is lost. Not sure this is really a CM problem, I just want to find a fix.
My setup:
Nexus One - CM6.RC1 - FRF91
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what do you mean it's lost.. when you're turning Wifi on, that's the whole point (that you want to use your Wifi connection for data, and not your mobile 3G data.) Maybe I'm not understanding you?
pakraider said:
what do you mean it's lost.. when you're turning Wifi on, that's the whole point (that you want to use your Wifi connection for data, and not your mobile 3G data.) Maybe I'm not understanding you?
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Even with wifi on you still need 3g data to send and receive MMS. I can't replicate this problem, though, so I'm afraid I'm not much help. All I can suggest is trying a full wipe of everything but battery and rotate stats and try to flash it again. See if that helps.
It works fine for me. Are you sure you are confussing not having both icons in the notification bar with 3g being off?
I answered this question a few months ago too.
Your 3g is not lost, it just hides the icon. Go into settings and look what network you are still connected to for yourself, it will still say 3g. If you were to send or receive an mms the 3g icon would briefly pop up, send the message, then disappear. Your phone is working just fine
thanks for the help... @roger, you are correct, i didn't realize that the icon was hidden vs. actually turned off, nor did i think to go check the actual service rather than rely on the icon
Hello,
Has anyone ever experienced the inability to download pictures from SMS/MMS while connected to wifi? My buddy can send me a pic via messaging or chomp sms and once it gets to me, usually a long time later, I will get a small, empty chat balloon touch the balloon and it will give me the loading circle for a few minutes and it will eventually stop without dl'ing anything. If I turn off wifi then it will dl within seconds. This is the same on both my phone and my buddy's(captivate) the only difference is I run the Firefly 2.0.5 and he is running stock eclair.
Is this just something that we have to deal with or is there a fix for this?
I did a samsung live chat and the agent said it was the way samsung makes their phones and restrict it to only allow SMS/MMS DL from the carrier signal.
Thanks for any and all help.
mms are done over 3g, are you able to browse the internet on 3g? are your APN settings correct?
I get mms when on wifi too. I was home two days back when I got like 4 sms. And at home I'm always on wifi.
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Never had a problem
MMS are only done over your carrier network. To prove this send your self an mms and as it is sending and receiving what your task bar and you will see that your data network connects to download it.
since the phone has to drop the wifi signal and connect to the carrier data signal to send or receive MMS (it might not show in the icon though), yours might be lagging somewhat in doing that...
so when the buddy is on wifi his one does it quicker yes?
Trusselo said:
mms are done over 3g, are you able to browse the internet on 3g? are your APN settings correct?
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Yes can browse the internet while on 3G and WIFI.
I do not know if my APN settings are wrong or right.
ap1618 said:
since the phone has to drop the wifi signal and connect to the carrier data signal to send or receive MMS (it might not show in the icon though), yours might be lagging somewhat in doing that...
so when the buddy is on wifi his one does it quicker yes?
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No, in reference to the way the devices act both do the same thing. Do not allow you to DL MMS while the WIFI is turned on. neither seems faster or slower it just will not complete the task on wifi.
Thanks to all for the replies
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MMS are only done over your carrier network. To prove this send your self an mms and as it is sending and receiving what your task bar and you will see that your data network connects to download it.
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I checked it 2 days back. Even when on wifi, it turns on EDGE/3G, downloads MMS and disconnects it.
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I checked it 2 days back. Even when on wifi, it turns on EDGE/3G, downloads MMS and disconnects it.
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So is there a setting that I need to look for that allows for the edge/3g to turn on/off for mms?
Anyone?
Would love to figure this out as it is quite annoying.
I turned on my phone this morning and tried to connect to YouTube but the connection to the server timed out. The same thing happened with all of my other apps that require a data connection except for Google+ and the browser (which will load the default Google home page and nothing else). I definitely have a data connection because there is a 3g icon in my status bar. I'm not sure if this will help. But the 3g and the signal icons are normally green but they are currently white, which has nothing to do with my location. I tried wiping the cache but it didn't work. Has anybody else experienced this problem? Thanks.
What's your phone set up (rom or any tweaks). Usually if your running a 2.3 rom the white means that your not connected through ur gmail or google talk i believe. Check your settings go to settings>account&sync> make sure background data is checked.
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I turned on my phone this morning and tried to connect to YouTube but the connection to the server timed out. The same thing happened with all of my other apps that require a data connection except for Google+ and the browser (which will load the default Google home page and nothing else). I definitely have a data connection because there is a 3g icon in my status bar. I'm not sure if this will help. But the 3g and the signal icons are normally green but they are currently white, which has nothing to do with my location. I tried wiping the cache but it didn't work. Has anybody else experienced this problem? Thanks.
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Can you make phone calls? If you try and call and get a message saying "error 16", you will need to call sprint and have them reset you to a tower. I've had to do this twice recently. Check to see if your PRL reverted to an older one. I tried to just do an update of the PRL, but that didn't work...had to call Sprint. You will need to be on a Sense Rom in order for the process to work. I use/d a NFX version.
If not, do the advice from above to make sure that your data is turned on and that things are syncing properly.
I can make phone calls and my PRL is 60665 but I have no idea whether or not that's outdated. I'm running Cyanogenmod 7.0.3, so if I need to call sprint I'll just flash the stock HTC Hero ROM and Sense UI that's on their website. Background data is checked but once I had the problem, I've turned off all data connections because they drain battery and they're useless to me at the moment.
I have had my phone since the release date for Verizon. The only problem I have with it is I do not receive my MMS messages at all. I leave my data off whenever I have access to wifi. My old Droid Razr would send me a message saying I had a message from someone and needed to download it. But on my Moto X I do not recieve any messages and then when I turn on my data, I will randomly get 4-5 messages from the group/picture message.
Are there any settings I can change to fix this?
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I have had my phone since the release date for Verizon. The only problem I have with it is I do not receive my MMS messages at all. I leave my data off whenever I have access to wifi. My old Droid Razr would send me a message saying I had a message from someone and needed to download it. But on my Moto X I do not recieve any messages and then when I turn on my data, I will randomly get 4-5 messages from the group/picture message.
Are there any settings I can change to fix this?
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Why are you turning off your data? My phone goes well over 24 hours with every single thing enabled and heavy use. There's no reason to turn it off.
I have the same issue too with my Moto X. I leave my data off because I have not an unlimited data plan. I am from At&t.
If someone can help, it would be great.
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Why are you turning off your data? My phone goes well over 24 hours with every single thing enabled and heavy use. There's no reason to turn it off.
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I agree that the battery life is great. But does it use extra battery to leave data on while on WiFi?
I read somewhere that to fix you need to send yourself an email with a picture attached on gmail. However I am still unable to send while on WiFi.
This is a CDMA limitation and I am unaware of a workaround. If you turn off your data, you will not receive MMS messages.
Try leaving on your data, or switching to a GSM carrier.
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I agree that the battery life is great. But does it use extra battery to leave data on while on WiFi?
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Nope. The data portion actually gets turned off in software if you're on WiFi until there is something (MMS) that needs it. You will save nothing, and waste time turning mobile data off every time you get on WiFi.
icase81 said:
Nope. The data portion actually gets turned off in software if you're on WiFi until there is something (MMS) that needs it. You will save nothing, and waste time turning mobile data off every time you get on WiFi.
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THIS. You need to leave data on if you want to receive MMS. The system handles data very well and will only turn it on when needed while on wifi
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Nope. The data portion actually gets turned off in software if you're on WiFi until there is something (MMS) that needs it. You will save nothing, and waste time turning mobile data off every time you get on WiFi.
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Good to know! But I need mobile data turned on to send an MMS when connected to WiFi? Does this mean it still uses my mobile data?
MMS doesn't count against your data. It goes over your data connection but is not counted towards your limit.
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icase81 said:
MMS doesn't count against your data. It goes over your data connection but is not counted towards your limit.
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Even picture messaging?
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Even picture messaging?
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Correct. MMS = picture messaging. That's how feature phones with no data plan can still use MMS.
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I noticed a similar issue recently when I turned wifi and mobile data off.
I was troubleshooting a problem where Google Messaging had a running service "Messaging Transaction Service" that was holding a wakelock for hours causing increased idle battery drain. Using WLD I saw the wakelock was related to MMS, so I turned on my mobile data. This didn't immediately help, so I forced close the Messaging service, and I then immediately received the MMS. Up until that point, I had no notification that a MMS was pending.
9kracing said:
This is a CDMA limitation and I am unaware of a workaround. If you turn off your data, you will not receive MMS messages.
Try leaving on your data, or switching to a GSM carrier.
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Just to correct you. this is not a CDMA limitation. This is how all iOS and android smartphones work by design. MMS messages are sent through data, they do not use up your data allotment for the month.
Only time MMS would work with data off is if you have a wifi calling app such as the one some tmobile phones have. It does not exist for the moto x.
Anyone else having issues similar to this? While connected to wifi my messages just time out / retry. if while it's retrying I disconnect from wifi, the message goes right away.
Moto X DE Rooted on 4.4.2 as of Tuesday evening.
Any chance you have ad block plus installed?
Steve-x said:
Any chance you have ad block plus installed?
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I have AdAway installed.
You do need an active data connection to send MMS (they don't send over WiFi). So it depends on what else you have going on -- i.e. if you have a Tasker profile to turns data off while connected to WiFi or something like that
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You do need an active data connection to send MMS (they don't send over WiFi). So it depends on what else you have going on -- i.e. if you have a Tasker profile to turns data off while connected to WiFi or something like that
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The last two times I've had issues with it sitting, as soon as I dropped wifi it sent. I do have/use tasker, but am on vzw unlimited data so I don't ever turn it off even when connected to wifi. Thanks for the suggestion.
I don't remember this issue pre-4.4.2 but I don't send a *lot* of mms's so I wouldn't argue its starting point as being 4.4.2 for sure.