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Disable All data besides MMS?

I turned off my data plan since I dont really use it. I was wondering how I could turn off all data and only allow my MMS. My data is always connected for whatever reason I see it connected for hours at a time. I have them all disabled in Kaiser Tweak ATM but I am sure I wont get MMS since it always connects to receive the messages.
Thank you,

"Bandswitch" - I had some success with that.

Jonathan1683 said:
I turned off my data plan since I dont really use it. I was wondering how I could turn off all data and only allow my MMS. My data is always connected for whatever reason I see it connected for hours at a time. I have them all disabled in Kaiser Tweak ATM but I am sure I wont get MMS since it always connects to receive the messages.
Thank you,
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Use NoData from MoDaCo.
You select to toggle on/off GPRS connections and/or mms connections
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility/

great program... thx for the link.

Thanks for the tip, gona check it out tonight

[Q] How can I remove internet?

Hey guys the G1 data plan is getting too expensive for me and I'm planning to cancel soon. After I call in and cancel, how can I get my G1 to stop trying to access the internet unless its Wifi? Or once I cancel I won't have to worry about this?
I also heard a rumor about changing the APN settings so you can still have and use the internet? Is this true?

no real way to stop the phone from accessing the web since even in the background it sends packets of information. that's just how the phone works that's why you need the data plan for this phone.

i want to cancel the plan cause my sis is paying for mine and i dont want her paying 300$+ a year on me. but i dont want to be charged after i cancel the plan cause my g1 is still accessing the internet. Anyways to prevent it from accessing the internet?

tinyaznboi said:
i want to cancel the plan cause my sis is paying for mine and i dont want her paying 300$+ a year on me. but i dont want to be charged after i cancel the plan cause my g1 is still accessing the internet. Anyways to prevent it from accessing the internet?
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i just said no there is no way to to shut off the internet due to the fact that the phone requires you to have a google account to run it even if you flash a adp build and skip the logon proceedure the phone still access the web in the background without you knowledge you will still get billed for data charges at t mobs data rate which i think is 25 to 50 cents per meg used.

disable auto sync
if you disable auto sync you wont be accessing the internet much (assuming you don't have a ton of news widgets or something) then sync when you're connected to wifi (toggle settings works well for this)

bittermormon said:
if you disable auto sync you wont be accessing the internet much (assuming you don't have a ton of news widgets or something) then sync when you're connected to wifi (toggle settings works well for this)
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the problem is even with auto sync off the phone still polls the internet in the background for updates and other things you could remove every internet reliant app off your phone and it still polls the internet it just the way android is designed he want to stop all internet traffic which is impossible without hacking the rom beyond what we do or pulling out the sim. even google maps requires to poll the internet in the background without him even turning it on. it's just impossible to stop it completely.

Install APNdroid.

Easiest, simplest, most reliable way: Go into settings>wireless controls>Mobile Networks>Access Point names, then click on each one and hit menu then delete. You will also need to finangle with tmobile through their customer service number in order to get them to cancel 3g for your G1 (they have some kind of a policy that's supposed to mean that you have to have an unlimited data plan with the G1, but if you're patient with them they'll let you cancel and just have voice.)

Even easier way. Download Toggle Data from market. That's what I've been using since I cancelled my plan. No more data in the background, so my battery life is longer. Sometimes my phone goes like 2-3 days without charge. (Of course without using wifi)

apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.

Before I bricked my G1, (I don't have a data plan) I just went to the T-Mobile store and told the guy what I could do to stop the internet. He just changed some kind of port number and stopped the internet so I don't get charged.

rigamrts said:
apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.
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I use apndroid all the time(to save battery) and I can still send/receive calls with it.

ultra spikey said:
I use apndroid all the time(to save battery) and I can still send/receive calls with it.
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i wasn't talking about apndroid
i was talking about the guy who told him to delete all his apns

if i use apndroid will i still be able to use wifi? also im using a JACHero's rom and i noticed this in the settings...
Data Sync > Google > Background Date Usage [X]

APN Droid only kills the data.

rigamrts said:
apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.
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No, the APN controls cellular data (internet and MMS) only. Voice and SMS are "built in" so to speak - as long as the SIM matches yoru carrier's records, they will work.
Deleting the APNs (or using APNdroid) will block cellular data, leaving voice, SMS and WiFi internet unaffected.

Wifi oddities

Hello,
Has anyone ever experienced the inability to download pictures from SMS/MMS while connected to wifi? My buddy can send me a pic via messaging or chomp sms and once it gets to me, usually a long time later, I will get a small, empty chat balloon touch the balloon and it will give me the loading circle for a few minutes and it will eventually stop without dl'ing anything. If I turn off wifi then it will dl within seconds. This is the same on both my phone and my buddy's(captivate) the only difference is I run the Firefly 2.0.5 and he is running stock eclair.
Is this just something that we have to deal with or is there a fix for this?
I did a samsung live chat and the agent said it was the way samsung makes their phones and restrict it to only allow SMS/MMS DL from the carrier signal.
Thanks for any and all help.

mms are done over 3g, are you able to browse the internet on 3g? are your APN settings correct?

I get mms when on wifi too. I was home two days back when I got like 4 sms. And at home I'm always on wifi.
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Never had a problem

MMS are only done over your carrier network. To prove this send your self an mms and as it is sending and receiving what your task bar and you will see that your data network connects to download it.

since the phone has to drop the wifi signal and connect to the carrier data signal to send or receive MMS (it might not show in the icon though), yours might be lagging somewhat in doing that...
so when the buddy is on wifi his one does it quicker yes?

Trusselo said:
mms are done over 3g, are you able to browse the internet on 3g? are your APN settings correct?
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Yes can browse the internet while on 3G and WIFI.
I do not know if my APN settings are wrong or right.

ap1618 said:
since the phone has to drop the wifi signal and connect to the carrier data signal to send or receive MMS (it might not show in the icon though), yours might be lagging somewhat in doing that...
so when the buddy is on wifi his one does it quicker yes?
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No, in reference to the way the devices act both do the same thing. Do not allow you to DL MMS while the WIFI is turned on. neither seems faster or slower it just will not complete the task on wifi.
Thanks to all for the replies

zelendel said:
MMS are only done over your carrier network. To prove this send your self an mms and as it is sending and receiving what your task bar and you will see that your data network connects to download it.
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I checked it 2 days back. Even when on wifi, it turns on EDGE/3G, downloads MMS and disconnects it.

diablo009 said:
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I checked it 2 days back. Even when on wifi, it turns on EDGE/3G, downloads MMS and disconnects it.
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So is there a setting that I need to look for that allows for the edge/3g to turn on/off for mms?

Anyone?
Would love to figure this out as it is quite annoying.

[Q] Can't send MMS w/ wifi on. Is this normal?

I've noticed I can't send mms while wifi is on (regardless of whether data is enabled or not). I can still receive them though.
Is this normal with this phone/verizon? The problem is I can't remember if it ever worked!
I believe I understand what's happening: The server for verizon's mms is not resolvable outside their data network. (Makes sense... keep non-customers from abusing their server.)
But it seems to me the phone ought to be able to resolve the name using the data connection and send it when data is enabled. Instead it seems to attempt to resolve the name using the wifi (which fails) and instead of falling back to data, it just fails to send the message altogether.

This is normal for big red my previous winmobile omnia did same thing

Having trouble with MMS. (Picture messages and group messages)

I have had my phone since the release date for Verizon. The only problem I have with it is I do not receive my MMS messages at all. I leave my data off whenever I have access to wifi. My old Droid Razr would send me a message saying I had a message from someone and needed to download it. But on my Moto X I do not recieve any messages and then when I turn on my data, I will randomly get 4-5 messages from the group/picture message.
Are there any settings I can change to fix this?

scottpark09 said:
I have had my phone since the release date for Verizon. The only problem I have with it is I do not receive my MMS messages at all. I leave my data off whenever I have access to wifi. My old Droid Razr would send me a message saying I had a message from someone and needed to download it. But on my Moto X I do not recieve any messages and then when I turn on my data, I will randomly get 4-5 messages from the group/picture message.
Are there any settings I can change to fix this?
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Why are you turning off your data? My phone goes well over 24 hours with every single thing enabled and heavy use. There's no reason to turn it off.

I have the same issue too with my Moto X. I leave my data off because I have not an unlimited data plan. I am from At&t.
If someone can help, it would be great.
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9kracing said:
Why are you turning off your data? My phone goes well over 24 hours with every single thing enabled and heavy use. There's no reason to turn it off.
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I agree that the battery life is great. But does it use extra battery to leave data on while on WiFi?
I read somewhere that to fix you need to send yourself an email with a picture attached on gmail. However I am still unable to send while on WiFi.

This is a CDMA limitation and I am unaware of a workaround. If you turn off your data, you will not receive MMS messages.
Try leaving on your data, or switching to a GSM carrier.

mikeosu said:
I agree that the battery life is great. But does it use extra battery to leave data on while on WiFi?
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Nope. The data portion actually gets turned off in software if you're on WiFi until there is something (MMS) that needs it. You will save nothing, and waste time turning mobile data off every time you get on WiFi.

icase81 said:
Nope. The data portion actually gets turned off in software if you're on WiFi until there is something (MMS) that needs it. You will save nothing, and waste time turning mobile data off every time you get on WiFi.
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THIS. You need to leave data on if you want to receive MMS. The system handles data very well and will only turn it on when needed while on wifi

icase81 said:
Nope. The data portion actually gets turned off in software if you're on WiFi until there is something (MMS) that needs it. You will save nothing, and waste time turning mobile data off every time you get on WiFi.
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Good to know! But I need mobile data turned on to send an MMS when connected to WiFi? Does this mean it still uses my mobile data?

MMS doesn't count against your data. It goes over your data connection but is not counted towards your limit.
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icase81 said:
MMS doesn't count against your data. It goes over your data connection but is not counted towards your limit.
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
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Even picture messaging?

mikeosu said:
Even picture messaging?
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Correct. MMS = picture messaging. That's how feature phones with no data plan can still use MMS.
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I noticed a similar issue recently when I turned wifi and mobile data off.
I was troubleshooting a problem where Google Messaging had a running service "Messaging Transaction Service" that was holding a wakelock for hours causing increased idle battery drain. Using WLD I saw the wakelock was related to MMS, so I turned on my mobile data. This didn't immediately help, so I forced close the Messaging service, and I then immediately received the MMS. Up until that point, I had no notification that a MMS was pending.

9kracing said:
This is a CDMA limitation and I am unaware of a workaround. If you turn off your data, you will not receive MMS messages.
Try leaving on your data, or switching to a GSM carrier.
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Just to correct you. this is not a CDMA limitation. This is how all iOS and android smartphones work by design. MMS messages are sent through data, they do not use up your data allotment for the month.
Only time MMS would work with data off is if you have a wifi calling app such as the one some tmobile phones have. It does not exist for the moto x.