Hi, I was wondering is any Samsung S4 Wireless Charger works with SGS4 Active? does anyone was have any thought?
x7nofate said:
Hi, I was wondering is any Samsung S4 Wireless Charger works with SGS4 Active? does anyone was have any thought?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2346512
I use a QI insert and the QI charger, it breaks the water seal in the back but works great. A company is working on a water proof version and you can look at it here:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/samsung-s4-active-wireless-charger-from-wiqiqi
Any wireless charger not outside of UK?
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x7nofate said:
Any wireless charger not outside of UK?
Sent from Samsung Galaxy S4 Active
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the above link will ship anywhere
joshuadjohnson22 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2346512
I use a QI insert and the QI charger, it breaks the water seal in the back but works great. A company is working on a water proof version and you can look at it here:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/samsung-s4-active-wireless-charger-from-wiqiqi
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Why would you get a waterproof phone just to take away the biggest benefit of the phone?
geoff5093 said:
Why would you get a waterproof phone just to take away the biggest benefit of the phone?
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Simple, I liked the s4 but hated the amoled screen. So when I can get a lcd version I jumped at the chance. I like wireless charging over taking it in the water with me. If I accidentally drop it in water AT&T will replace it one time. Win win for me
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joshuadjohnson22 said:
Simple, I liked the s4 but hated the amoled screen. So when I can get a lcd version I jumped at the chance. I like wireless charging over taking it in the water with me. If I accidentally drop it in water AT&T will replace it one time. Win win for me
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They have one their for the S4 Active that doesn't break the waterproofing
popfan said:
They have one their for the S4 Active that doesn't break the waterproofing
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they are working on it but it hasn't been released yet. But honestly I don't think I will get it. If I can just get a new phone if mine hits water why would i spend more money? The one I use works through very thick cases, the one that will be launch for the active wont. To each his own
joshuadjohnson22 said:
they are working on it but it hasn't been released yet. But honestly I don't think I will get it. If I can just get a new phone if mine hits water why would i spend more money? The one I use works through very thick cases, the one that will be launch for the active wont. To each his own
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So...you're going to mod the phone and defeat the waterproofing and then if because of your carelessness it gets wet you will have AT&T replace it even though it was your fault. And people wonder why phone companies lock bootloaders and stuff.
Miami_Son said:
So...you're going to mod the phone and defeat the waterproofing and then if because of your carelessness it gets wet you will have AT&T replace it even though it was your fault. And people wonder why phone companies lock bootloaders and stuff.
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No, I have never have had water damage on a phone and don't plan to(see my sig to see how many devices I have had and not a single problem). I highly doubt it will happen so I would rather have a feature like wireless charging over something I will never use like waterproof. If it does get wet I will think about what I should do, I do have insurance so I can always use that. If AT&T offers to replace it I will let them but I do not plan on lying, if it comes up I will let them know how the water got in.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
No, I have never have had water damage on a phone and don't plan to(see my sig to see how many devices I have had and not a single problem). I highly doubt it will happen so I would rather have a feature like wireless charging over something I will never use like waterproof. If it does get wet I will think about what I should do, I do have insurance so I can always use that. If AT&T offers to replace it I will let them but I do not plan on lying, if it comes up I will let them know how the water got in.
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Was just going by what you said earlier, " I like wireless charging over taking it in the water with me. If I accidentally drop it in water AT&T will replace it one time. Win win for me." Which sounds a lot different than what you are now saying. No way AT$T will replace a modded phone, so you'd either have to lie or hope they don't discover it.
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Was just going by what you said earlier, " I like wireless charging over taking it in the water with me. If I accidentally drop it in water AT&T will replace it one time. Win win for me." Which sounds a lot different than what you are now saying. No way AT$T will replace a modded phone, so you'd either have to lie or hope they don't discover it.
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First off it isn't modded, there is an insert in it... I will be honest with AT&T but will explain I have water damage. I guess what I meant was I will have a better chance of talking them into replacing than if I had another smartphone. Either way I don't think I have to worry about it, sorry to piss you off
Sometimes I don't get all my thoughts out when I type
joshuadjohnson22 said:
First off it isn't modded, there is an insert in it... I will be honest with AT&T but will explain I have water damage. I guess what I meant was I will have a better chance of talking them into replacing than if I had another smartphone. Either way I don't think I have to worry about it, sorry to piss you off
Sometimes I don't get all my thoughts out when I type
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The point is that if, in your own scenario, the phone gets water damaged, it will have been your own fault. You defeated the water-resistance. Getting AT$T to replace it is unfair the same as if you had damaged the phone by flashing a custom ROM on it. Too many people do these things and then somehow (whether by deceit or not) get AT$T to replace their phone leaving the rest of us to have to pick up the tab for it in higher prices or locked bootloaders. If you are using XDA then you should know that what you are doing to your phone is probably not covered by the manufacturer defect part of your warranty. Accept that responsibility if something goes wrong and don't try to pass it onto the carrier. I have had two phones replaced under warranty since 2010. Both were rooted and one was running a custom ROM. Both suffered from random shutdowns, which were later acknowledged to be a defect. Had they failed due to something I caused I would have just sucked it up and bought another phone. Not because I'm better than anyone else, but because I take responsibility for my actions. I hope you do too.:good:
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The point is that if, in your own scenario, the phone gets water damaged, it will have been your own fault. You defeated the water-resistance. Getting AT$T to replace it is unfair the same as if you had damaged the phone by flashing a custom ROM on it. Too many people do these things and then somehow (whether by deceit or not) get AT$T to replace their phone leaving the rest of us to have to pick up the tab for it in higher prices or locked bootloaders. If you are using XDA then you should know that what you are doing to your phone is probably not covered by the manufacturer defect part of your warranty. Accept that responsibility if something goes wrong and don't try to pass it onto the carrier. I have had two phones replaced under warranty since 2010. Both were rooted and one was running a custom ROM. Both suffered from random shutdowns, which were later acknowledged to be a defect. Had they failed due to something I caused I would have just sucked it up and bought another phone. Not because I'm better than anyone else, but because I take responsibility for my actions. I hope you do too.:good:
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I agree but you are missing my point... I WILL tell them exactly what happened if they say tough then I will use my insurance to replace, if they replace them I will be happy. I have always been an honest person when it comes to this stuff and I do not plan on lying now. Usually the AT&T reps will work with you... So far I have had AWESOME service by them.
I doubt it will even happen though so I am not worried
btw AT&T is suppose to reimage phones before sending them out... it is their normal process. And if you have modded your phone and returned it you should restore to factory defaults either way. Not saying that it is ok but just say it is lazy not to.
geoff5093 said:
Why would you get a waterproof phone just to take away the biggest benefit of the phone?
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It's not a waterproof phone, it's a water-resistant phone, and there is a huge HUGE difference.
Also, with respect to these wireless chargers and having to remove the stock battery cover to do it, are you planning to charge your Active wirelessly under water anytime soon?
If not then there's no issue with this methodology whatsoever.
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It's not a waterproof phone, it's a water-resistant phone, and there is a huge HUGE difference.
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out of curiosity, wonder if this pic from Samsung website is considered water-resistant or waterproof
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out of curiosity, wonder if this pic from Samsung website is considered water-resistant or waterproof
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Water-resistant because it can't stay in that environment permanently, just for short periods of time (with fully drying off between "dunkings" as well).
Water can and will get into most anything given enough time, so this is just highly resistant to water "infiltration" one could say, but that's only if the battery cover is properly attached/latched in place.
of course
of course you can go ebay ,or some online store. such aulola.com
Wireless charging
joshuadjohnson22 said:
they are working on it but it hasn't been released yet. But honestly I don't think I will get it. If I can just get a new phone if mine hits water why would i spend more money? The one I use works through very thick cases, the one that will be launch for the active wont. To each his own
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I'm with you...I use my rubber duck in the tub, not my phone so the water resistant aspective of the Active doesn't concern me. I do want, however, to by A WiQiQi charger. Will a standart S4 receiver fit inside the case of the Active?
Thanks
Can someone please answer this question I want to buy one asap.
Will the qi wireless receiver for s4 work on the s4 active. (I do not care about waterproofing if this helps)
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We all know that Verizon has made some pretty asinine decisons over the years, especially in regards to eliminating certain funtionality and features on their phones.... but for the life of me I cannot figure out why they would choose to essentially "cover up" the wireless charging capabilities of this great phone!
Do they actually NOT want to make a boatload of ca$h on special NFC/wireless charging battery covers and charging mats???!!!
There is no rationale behind this that I can think of whatsoever!
In case anyone wants to know the reason for my frustration... the Verizon version of the Note II has an inner cover that covers the wireless charging contacts (the inner cover is what is exposed when the battery cover is removed). The AT&T version has fully functional wireless charging capability out of the box...minus the battery cover & charging mat.
This problem can be remedied with a little tinkerinh which involves removing this inner cover, but the sad thing is that none of this extra work should even be necessary. Plus... wouldn't it have actually been more cost effective for Samsung & the carriers to use the same components wherever possible? This was an unnecessary variance from what should hve been the standard.
Just pretty crappy that this flagship device is missing this wireless charging feature that continues to grow in popularity industry wide.
...Maybe Verizon is counting on the micro-USB port life expectancy being just about when the warranty is expired so they can make their money on people needing new phones before they're due for an upgrade!
Sorry guys... had to vent. I definitely have a Love-Hate relationship with VZW!
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wow no kidding
I was actually in the store to hear first hand why. A customer coming from an iphone (he announced) was interested in the Note 2. His friend had the ATT version and he was excited to have a phone that could do wireless charging.
customer: I want to get the note 2, does it come with the wireless charging accessories or do I have to buy them separate?
verizon salesguy: The Note 2 doesn't have wireless charging built in, but the New Droid DNA does, let me show you.
customer: okay!
word for word. So frustrating to see their evil BS work. They make money licensing the "DROID" name so they make more money from droid phones. Horse droppings.
To be fair doesn't it take about a decade to charge the note 2 wirelessly?
I don't like using 1a chargers on mine because they take so much longer than the stock one and as far as I know wireless charging supplies even less than that.
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I never thought about the Droid DNA being a possible reason for them to intentionally disable this feature, but knowing how VZW likes to promote the Droid line as the preferred choice, that does make sense.
I agree that wireless charging a 3100mAh battery will take a lot longer. I would think most people would use it as a bedside charger while they're sleeping, or at work, if they have an office job.
It would be very convenient to not have to fumble with a micro USB connector, especially when lighting is poor, or when you're picking your phone up every several minutes while at work.
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Verizon has made it clear that the note is not their flagship device, but in fact the dna is.
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I use wireless charging with my AT&T N2 and it charges from 40% in a couple hours.. I only charge at night when im sleeping though so as long as it charges within 6 hours I could care less.. and I wake up at the 4 hour mark and its at 100% so its fast enough for me... and slower charging is actually better for the battery. I understand if you needed a quick pick me up why it wouldnt be good.. but im a HEAVY user and with the N2 and its massive battery, ive never needed to charge it during the day... so for my needs, its perfect.
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At the verizon I went to my rep tried the same thing on me. I went in specifically for the n2. He asked me if I had seen the dna, I said I heard of it and saw a couple of reviews on it. He asked if I wouod be interested in that instead. I said does it have a 3100mah battery, a stylus, removable battery or a micro sd slot... he said no. I said might as well get an iphone5 if thats the case. I came in for the n2 and only the n2.... couldnt be happier...... fyi. I finally convinced my wife to ditch her icrap5 and take over my s3
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Well that explains the extra time until they released it. I wonder if the contacts are still there under the plastic?
Also, why don't they put wireless chargers in dash mounts?? Seems like a no brainier there.
There are a couple youtube videos showing what needs to be done to re-enable the wireless charging. The contacts are definitely there under the freaking plastic cover. They do not appear to be "raised" contacts like on the AT&T version or the Galaxy S3, but they are indeed there.
Sprint version does not have it either.
Maybe the cdma versions were built in the same place
swyped all these spelling errors from my galaxy note 2
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wow no kidding
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gltovar,
Thanks for the helpful side-by-side pics!
Does anyone know what that round connector is on the AT&T version between the NFC contacts and wireless charging contacts?
What else did Verizon screw us out of??!!??
Kevro_86 said:
gltovar,
Thanks for the helpful side-by-side pics!
Does anyone know what that round connector is on the AT&T version between the NFC contacts and wireless charging contacts?
What else did Verizon screw us out of??!!??
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If I'm not mistaking the one on the left is the International version and I believe the round connector might be for the radio.
External antenna connection... used for testing purposes.
Kevro_86 said:
gltovar,
Thanks for the helpful side-by-side pics!
Does anyone know what that round connector is on the AT&T version between the NFC contacts and wireless charging contacts?
What else did Verizon screw us out of??!!??
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You can actually do 2 things.
1) Buy the housing from the ATT/International version and replace the VZW one with extreme ease, and then you can solder on contacts and make yourself a Qi compatible back cover.
2) Just get some copper tape (I think is what he used) and then get the Palm Touchstone or whatever and the Palm door and do the same minus replacing the housing.
Just an idea, but do you think it's possible to drill a couple of precise holes through the thin plastic inner cover to gain access to the contacts directly underneath? And then drop in some spring pins?
Yes if you do it really careful and do not damage the circuit beneath. ..there is a video on YouTube showing that it does work. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gwf5FNU_hT0&v=rDSyjl_2CXo
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snapz54 said:
I was actually in the store to hear first hand why. A customer coming from an iphone (he announced) was interested in the Note 2. His friend had the ATT version and he was excited to have a phone that could do wireless charging.
customer: I want to get the note 2, does it come with the wireless charging accessories or do I have to buy them separate?
verizon salesguy: The Note 2 doesn't have wireless charging built in, but the New Droid DNA does, let me show you.
customer: okay!
word for word. So frustrating to see their evil BS work. They make money licensing the "DROID" name so they make more money from droid phones. Horse droppings.
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ok first of all vzw reps do not sell the dna over the note2 because they get paid more and vzw hasnt asked them to offer the note2 over the dna, what most likely happened is a biased opinion of a rep, a lot of reps in my store for some reason like the dna more, there are reasons its better but but there also reasons its not, and on the issue of the charging who knows why vzw didnt include it, but the s3 wireless charging took a while to come out too, just be interesting how they do it though since pins are covered.
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Not having access to the wireless charging prongs really REALLY angered me when I took the back cover off my brand new Note 2. After seeing the international version, I was all excited to implement magnetic charging. I was shocked and angered when I didn't see the prongs!! Will have to decide if I want to crack the phone open and figure out an alternative solution....the frustration!
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ok first of all vzw reps do not sell the dna over the note2 because they get paid more and vzw hasnt asked them to offer the note2 over the dna, what most likely happened is a biased opinion of a rep, a lot of reps in my store for some reason like the dna more, there are reasons its better but but there also reasons its not, and on the issue of the charging who knows why vzw didnt include it, but the s3 wireless charging took a while to come out too, just be interesting how they do it though since pins are covered.
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no.
So i have been having issues with my device. The device will shut off, sometimes not charge properly and the device will die and i will have to unplug the battery and plug it back in to power cycle the device and for it to register a charge. So i decided to call and explain this to the "tech" the moment i mentioned that i opened the device and did this they said i had "voided" my warranty and i would have to contact Asus.
Yeah. I voided my warranty by popped open the back and unplugged the battery. This is how i was treated. Also.. I then request a supervisor who then states the same thing.. they give me a "mercy" repair and then proceed to setup a repair, but they have "noted" that i have voided my warranty by "messing with the internal components, and that the back was not made to be opened." That if they verify that i have "messed with this" i will be charged the full amount for the replacement device.
Seriously? I am fuming right now. they pretty much made me feel like i had broken a law by opening up their PLASTIC device. the back is held on by clips.. no screws, warranty stick, or any other type of method of removal. I was told that the "normal" consumer would never do that... and that i definitely voided my warranty.. I am so peeved right now i could hit something. Seriously?!
Good job Google. Your first major device made by "you" and this is how you treat your customer. Thank god i'm an Apple user and i was an ex-Applecare rep and RULE 1, you never accuse the customer of doing anything. You never make them feel like some inept POS because you popped off a battery cover. WOW. Last Google product i buy. Seriously. I have never had a customer experience where i was berated on the phone as some sort of villain.. by 2 "techs" Not only that.. the "supervisor" said .."oh sir, it's not that easy to pop the back off.. you really have to get IN THERE"
Peeved. XDA has anyone been treated like that by them? I thought the Nexus line was for the "tech savy" you know the ones that can root, unlock, and develop.. yet i was treated like a criminal for doing some basic trouble shooting. I told the tech on the phone.. what if i had bought this 2nd hand and couldn't turn it on.. the SERIAL NUMBER IS ON THE INSIDE LID.. she just said.. "well i understand that.. but you still voided your warranty.."
WOW.
google should let people play as long as they dont short it out.
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So i have been having issues with my device. The device will shut off, sometimes not charge properly and the device will die and i will have to unplug the battery and plug it back in to power cycle the device and for it to register a charge. So i decided to call and explain this to the "tech" the moment i mentioned that i opened the device and did this they said i had "voided" my warranty and i would have to contact Asus.
Yeah. I voided my warranty by popped open the back and unplugged the battery. This is how i was treated. Also.. I then request a supervisor who then states the same thing.. they give me a "mercy" repair and then proceed to setup a repair, but they have "noted" that i have voided my warranty by "messing with the internal components, and that the back was not made to be opened." That if they verify that i have "messed with this" i will be charged the full amount for the replacement device.
Seriously? I am fuming right now. they pretty much made me feel like i had broken a law by opening up their PLASTIC device. the back is held on by clips.. no screws, warranty stick, or any other type of method of removal. I was told that the "normal" consumer would never do that... and that i definitely voided my warranty.. I am so peeved right now i could hit something. Seriously?!
Good job Google. Your first major device made by "you" and this is how you treat your customer. Thank god i'm an Apple user and i was an ex-Applecare rep and RULE 1, you never accuse the customer of doing anything. You never make them feel like some inept POS because you popped off a battery cover. WOW. Last Google product i buy. Seriously. I have never had a customer experience where i was berated on the phone as some sort of villain.. by 2 "techs" Not only that.. the "supervisor" said .."oh sir, it's not that easy to pop the back off.. you really have to get IN THERE"
Peeved. XDA has anyone been treated like that by them? I thought the Nexus line was for the "tech savy" you know the ones that can root, unlock, and develop.. yet i was treated like a criminal for doing some basic trouble shooting. I told the tech on the phone.. what if i had bought this 2nd hand and couldn't turn it on.. the SERIAL NUMBER IS ON THE INSIDE LID.. she just said.. "well i understand that.. but you still voided your warranty.."
WOW.
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Is there any documentation that came bundled with your device that clearly provides instructions for how to remove the back cover and how to disconnect the battery? does the device even have a battery that is user removable and replaceable ?
no to both and you knew that... you had to search for information online to perform that and you still did it knowing full well that wasn't allowed.
the moment your device showed any signs of issues you should have contacted Google to get an RMA
Warranty is present on our devices with rules in place. you broke the rules and then admitted to it to a tech and expect something different?
You are not supposed to open the cover plain and simple, if you expect the company that sold it to you to honor the warranty which means they trust you haven't touched anything inside then you leave it alone and always contact them for service. that's your complete circle..
Open your device and you lose that ability because now it is assumed A. you have touched or modified something, B. you know what you are doing since you have opened the device up.
They have no idea what you have done, you expect them to just take your word for it? I'd love to see that fly at the dealership on your new car... "Yea the engine blew, it was making a ticking sound but before notifying you guys I went ahead and took the engine cover off and looked around and also changed a few things but i still have my warranty right? kthnxbai
The Nexus line has nothing to do with being for people that are tech savy... thats just the general consensus of people that choose ANDROID over IOS.
People buy the Nexus line because they want the full unmodified Google experience AND the latest OS updates from Google plain and simple.
Either play by their rules and leave the device alone and if it has issues notify them, get an RMA and send it back that's what they are there for. not to clean up the mess that happens after you touched the device in a way you weren't supposed to.
Even if you didn't do anything other than open the cover, how are they supposed to know? just trust you? :laugh:
Why did they accuse you? because like an idiot you just told them straight up yes I opened the device even though I know i'm not supposed to.
Lucky they gave you the mercy repair....
Well i feel for you brother, it's not like you broke the device yourself...that said it's pretty clear the back cover is not designed to be removed by consumers, and you really should have known that disconnecting the battery could technically void your warranty.
While some companies may be lenient with their warranty policies, you certainly shouldn't expect it; so to admit.that you played around with the internals was a little naive i'm afraid. I remember hearing a story about techs at one company being instructed to look for rooted phones that had been sent in so that the warranty could be voided (because technically rooting was a breach of conditions).
But look, you might get lucky and they won't charge you if the fault is obviously not your fault. I hope it works out for you.
I'd have been more surprised if they did NOT void the warranty when you told them that. Its pretty common sense that you should not tell techs that you have opened a device.
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Peeved. XDA has anyone been treated like that by them? I thought the Nexus line was for the "tech savy" you know the ones that can root, unlock, and develop.. yet i was treated like a criminal for doing some basic trouble shooting.
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Sounds to me like you were treated as someone who voided his warranty. Which is exactly what you did. Sounds fair to me.
It's your responsibility to know what voids the warranty, and you're trying to make others suffer for your mistake.
And the tech savvy people know that when they open up and mess with their devices, they're on their own.
FYI, the Nexus 7 back cover is not made to be just popped off like many phone back covers so you probably damaged something as well.
Taking the back off the N7 does not void the warranty. However, I think there is a "VOID" sticker on one of the screws that keep the battery connected to the device that if removed, this DOES void the warranty. I would look, but I can't pop the back off my N7 because I just clipped my fingernails, haha. But I have taken off the back of my previous N7s various times and sent them all back with out any problems. I just haven't tampered with the stickers that say "VOID" on them.
Obvious warranty voiding action is obvious.
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They made it a sealed back for a reason they don't want people messing and you have silly to do it. Its like moaning you have bricked your nexus and moaning they won't give you a new one. Same as in game shops the minute you take it out the cellophane its none-returnable. You should of phoned them straight away when you noticed the problem.
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Never tell any company you tried to fix some thing your self
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Look. Seriously I understand. I get it. If i damaged the device, the warranty should be voided. But i didn't. Second. Most devices, that do NOT want you in the back would..
A.) Not make the back held on by snaps, that are super easy to remove (please don't tell me it's hard or difficult to remove because it's not) The devices that have tamper proof backs have screws with warranty voiding measures like a sticker that says (VOID WARRANTY) and a screw under it.. Or they would have a security Torx screw.. or something! Go check your devices..
B.) I have spent hours looking and reading the warranty manual and NOTHING in there says you can't remove the battery back. Have anyof you owned a Galaxy S (the original) the battery back snaps on the exact same way. you have to pop it off with snaps all around the edge. Also.. nothing inside the back says "HEY if you remove this you void your warrenty!"
C.) I get the battery is not user replaceable.. sort of.. it's one plug and you pop it out.. but i think the battery is held with glue so i wouldn't remove it.. but come on guys i'm seriously not trying to be a ****, i know if i had opened something that said "DONT OPEN" or there was a screw on back i wouldn't have said anything when i called.. but this is silly.. the moment i mentioned i popped the back off, they threw up there hands and ignored the fact that the device was having issues prior..
D.) In the Warranty paper work it says "the Product has been tampered with, repaired and/or modified by non-authorized personnal:" So opening the back that is easy to open but has no TAMPER PROOF anything voids your warranty.. in that sentence i don't think i did ANY OF IT. I didn't take it apart, unscrew, replace parts, etc.. all i did was open to unplug and plug battery back in.. if thats tampering.. then we ALL have void our warranties on MANY devices as i'm sure that wording is used on MANY devices warranties.
Seriously though I know when i have been beaten. I can admit defeat but the way i was treated on the phone was awful. I can't understand how that is good customer service. Adult conversation here.
And you blame Google for this.....
If your device was cutting out and not charging then why didn't you get it repaired or replaced under warranty instead of messing about with the internals? Clearly you must have done more than just opening the back cover, someone who goes that far will meddle with the battery and connectors which definitely VOIDS your warranty. It's not the same as opening the back cover of a Galaxy phone that has a user replaceable battery.... this doesn't
Seriously the more people like you move back to Apple the better these forums would get. Good luck
Xda seems full of assholes today.. (not you op!)
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And you blame Google for this.....
If your device was cutting out and not charging then why didn't you get it repaired or replaced under warranty instead of messing about with the internals? Clearly you must have done more than just opening the back cover, someone who goes that far will meddle with the battery and connectors which definitely VOIDS your warranty. It's not the same as opening the back cover of a Galaxy phone that has a user replaceable battery.... this doesn't
Seriously the more people like you move back to Apple the better these forums would get. Good luck
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The battery connection problem is very common many people have fixed it the way he tried the only mistake he made is telling them about it
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And you blame Google for this.....
If your device was cutting out and not charging then why didn't you get it repaired or replaced under warranty instead of messing about with the internals? Clearly you must have done more than just opening the back cover, someone who goes that far will meddle with the battery and connectors which definitely VOIDS your warranty.
Seriously the more people like you move back to Apple the better these forums would get. Good luck
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Wow. More people like you make Google users seem elitist. Yes i did unplug the battery you know that thing we as electronic users have been doing for YEARS. it was the only way to get it to turn back on.. is that too difficult for you? I like how you probably have never read the warranty insert but are already siding with a company of their "meaning" of the rules.
I guess everyone here would be ok if you mentioned resetting the batteries in your remote control for your TV and they said. OH well you voided the warranty..?
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The battery connection problem is very common many people have fixed it the way he tried the only mistake he made is telling them about it
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Thanks. Thank you. Someone understands.. I admit i guess it was my fault for mentioning.. it. Now my account is "has been noted" So now i will probably not send it in for repair, because they seem to "maybe" want to charge me full price which BTW is 200 for an 8GB they don't even have it set to 150 as it should be for a device that has been replaced pricewise for the 16GB.
wow the back of the nexus is not like any phone back. there is a groove or a notch to remove phone backs. Thats like saying the ipod back is removable since its not screwed down. I can remove an ipod back almost as easy as taking off the nexus 7's back but I also know I'm not supposed to. It sucks what they told you but crying foul is almost as bad. Luckily they are going to help you anyway
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Wow. More people like you make Google users seem elitist. Yes i did unplug the battery you know that thing we as electronic users have been doing for YEARS
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Nonsense, just hold the power button for 10-15 seconds.
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Nonsense, just hold the power button for 10-15 seconds.
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Tried. Multiple times. Nothing.. the screen would stay black. battery wouldn't charge. i had to unplug battery and plug back in.. to get the charger to work. even bought 2 3rd party chargers that work for nexus to get it to respond. nothing. battery had to be unplugged and plugged back in. only way to get my device to work. I guess i shouldn't have said that and lied. *sigh*
Sorry to hear this man, I'm following this thread pretty closely. I am getting a N7 here next week (Christmas, I hope), so trying to see what others issues with it are. I hope this works out for you
Had my One plugged in to the USB on my computer...unplugged it because it was plugged in to USB 3 and needed it in USB 2....brick. No rhyme or reason. No power, no bootloader, no recover, no charge, nothing. Went to Sprint, they were unable to do anything either so they're ordering me a new device. They said it wont be a refurb since its so new so that's nice.
Not really sure why I'm sharing but wanted to get the info out there just in case others may have had the same thing happen to them or just be careful if you keep your device plugged in and you unplug it from the computers USB or AC usb.
PS The way the Sprint Tech's looked over my device really worried me and worries me for the future when I'll actually have some signs of wear and tear on the device. They normally have the ability to check for water damage with the stickers on the battery and a few other locations....well that doesnt exist for the One, at least in a very accessible spot. He took my phone (looks brand new) to his manager and his manager said "I think you'll be fine to replace it." Well, if my phone has scuffs all over it, etc a hardware issue doenst automatically stem from the wear and tear but I believe that's going to be the One's "indicator" and I think some may have a serious issue getting warranty repairs done since they dont have a true way of telling signs of water damage, etc without destroying the device by taking it apart.
I must say though....this is the sexiest paperweight ever.
as someone who has worked for sprint as a repair tech I can say you shouldnt be worried. The policy goes like this when trying to qualify a device for a replacement at no cost (for those with insurance that is).
1.Screen Cracks
2. Water Damage
3. Personal hardware modification (if the tech is an ass he can call you out on custom roms etc...but we usually let this slide)
Outside of that NO sprint store should EVER deny you a replace if its a legit issue just because of some nicks or scratches. Cosmetic damage isnt part of the criteria. So if you find a store that does **** you around when you know youre in the right....find another store or call corporate because thats NOT how its supposed to work.
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as someone who has worked for sprint as a repair tech I can say you shouldnt be worried. The policy goes like this when trying to qualify a device for a replacement at no cost (for those with insurance that is).
1.Screen Cracks
2. Water Damage
3. Personal hardware modification (if the tech is an ass he can call you out on custom roms etc...but we usually let this slide)
Outside of that NO sprint store should EVER deny you a replace if its a legit issue just because of some nicks or scratches. Cosmetic damage isnt part of the criteria. So if you find a store that does **** you around when you know youre in the right....find another store or call corporate because thats NOT how its supposed to work.
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Thanks...so I know that on the HTC Dev website it states the generic warnings but Sprint still will not cover any issues from developing even though it appears to be widely accepted now?
Tyzing said:
Thanks...so I know that on the HTC Dev website it states the generic warnings but Sprint still will not cover any issues from developing even though it appears to be widely accepted now?
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Yeah sometimes it just depends on who the technician is as to if they are going to cut you some slack or not. The good thing is most techs really dont know anything indepth about custom roms or rooting. So if you dont say much to them you should be fine.
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Yeah sometimes it just depends on who the technician is as to if they are going to cut you some slack or not. The good thing is most techs really dont know anything indepth about custom roms or rooting. So if you dont say much to them you should be fine.
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This. About a week before I got my One, I had gone into my local corp store with my GNex which had an unlocked bootloader, but wasn't rooted. I was having awful signal issues, even with the free Airave that was sent to me. Two managers and finally a tech from the back looked over that phone, rebooting it several times. Each time I winced because that big white unlocked lock symbol showed up and I just was waiting for one of them to say something. The closest one was one of the managers asked if I was "jailbroken" because he didn't recognize my Beautiful Widgets weather widget. I walked out of there with a NIB GNex. (A week later I got an early upgrade and sold it back for my black One).
As a retail consultant for Sprint, I'm shocked how little our techs do know tbh. Lol. I run circles around these guys in triage.
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As a retail consultant for Sprint, I'm shocked how little our techs do know tbh. Lol. I run circles around these guys in triage.
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I've only met one guy at the sprint store that knew anything about android. He was telling me how he got his contract terminated because he used the Verizon prl for the gnex
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As a retail consultant for Sprint, I'm shocked how little our techs do know tbh. Lol. I run circles around these guys in triage.
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Youd love my store then :]. Me and the other tech are baws lol.
So part of my screen has been unresponsive, so i brought it to Verizon, and they said they would replace it, but they would also send it into their factory or whatever. They said that if they found any sort of damage to the motherboard inside, they would charge me full retail price, $499, irreversible. This seems ridiculous to me, as I am 100% sure I have not damaged it, but I am worried that they will make me pay, especially with my luck. I was wondering if there were any other options that I had so that I could avoid dealing with Verizon. Thanks.
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So part of my screen has been unresponsive, so i brought it to Verizon, and they said they would replace it, but they would also send it into their factory or whatever. They said that if they found any sort of damage to the motherboard inside, they would charge me full retail price, $499, irreversible. This seems ridiculous to me, as I am 100% sure I have not damaged it, but I am worried that they will make me pay, especially with my luck. I was wondering if there were any other options that I had so that I could avoid dealing with Verizon. Thanks.
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As long as you didn't dunk it in water or throw it against something, you'll be fine.
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As long as you didn't dunk it in water or throw it against something, you'll be fine.
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okay, the guy at Verizon scared me i guess because he said if I leaned against it, (which is very common if it's in your pocket and against a wall...) they could say it's damage. While I don't recall even doing this, I was just worried. Thanks
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okay, the guy at Verizon scared me i guess because he said if I leaned against it, (which is very common if it's in your pocket and against a wall...) they could say it's damage. While I don't recall even doing this, I was just worried. Thanks
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He's full of sh*t. I have the black line issue on mine, the guy at the store took a quick look at it and ordered me a refurb no questions asked. He was probably trying to get you to admit to breaking it...
The note 7. What a failure for Samsung. Economically and their reputation. But who's really to blame. Battery manufactures are spotty at best for any electronics manufacture. Its just how that gamble works in the battery game. There are no real reliable sources. That's why there are most likely 6 18650 battery cells in your older laptop, made by Sony, Samsung, or LG. Each cell is 4.2 volts when fully charged. Wired in series, this equals 25.2 volts. Each cell has a minimum of 3 volts, or 18 volts in series. Which means your battery pack can operate from roughly 18-25volts. Your charger is a 19 volt charger. Meaning when they designed your laptop, they did so keeping in mind on average of 1 out of 6 of your cells has had a manufacturing catastrophic failure. But the battery pack will still work. Why do you think they die so fast and their capacities diminish? Now Samsung releases millions of cell phones with non-removable battery covers, forcing users to purchase new phones instead of batteries, it's like they where asking for a 19 billion dollar loss, because they can't point fingers at anyone but themselves, knowing the battery market is as it is today. I don't feel sorry for them for going cheap and trying to copy apple. We are fortunate we didn't see this happen sooner, although we all take today's technologies for granted and expect miracles from countries that cannot keep up to our capitalist demand, like legitimate batteries.
Thing is Samsung isn't the first to do sealed in batteries and this isnt their first phone with a sealed in battery (see S6, S6edge, S6edge+, Note5, S7. S7edge). Making the statement that they were asking for it by sealing in batteries is an over simplification when you consider all the phones that have sealed batteries and all the tablets that have always had sealed batteries.
Also what does it have to do with "keeping up with our capitalist demands". South Korea where Samsung is based is in fact a capitalist country, maybe you are mistaking it for socialist state like North Korea.
If anything it is a failure of QA on their end (opting to test everything in house, which is likely to cut cost).
I don't see a reliable way of waterproofing with a removable battery. The construction of the Sim tray with a water leak sticker right below it is a dead give away.
Half the people couldn't even click all the back fasteners on a phone anyways.
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Thing is Samsung isn't the first to do sealed in batteries and this isnt their first phone with a sealed in battery (see S6, S6edge, S6edge+, Note5, S7. S7edge). Making the statement that they were asking for it by sealing in batteries is an over simplification when you consider all the phones that have sealed batteries and all the tablets that have always had sealed batteries.
Also what does it have to do with "keeping up with our capitalist demands". South Korea where Samsung is based is in fact a capitalist country, maybe you are mistaking it for socialist state like North Korea.
If anything it is a failure of QA on their end (opting to test everything in house, which is likely to cut cost).
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Hey guy. Whats the intelligence behind sealed back covers. Profit. So when your battery goes out, you have to replace the phone not the battery. Defend samsung some more, South korea is currently suing samsung. Samsung Made this stupid decision. They could have pointed the finger at the battery manufacture and avoided the whole thing. But they had to seal it, resulting in a 19 billion dollar loss.
I don't care if it's the first, or last phone with a sealed battery cover, NONE of them should have it. Period.
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I don't see a reliable way of waterproofing with a removable battery. The construction of the Sim tray with a water leak sticker right below it is a dead give away.
Half the people couldn't even click all the back fasteners on a phone anyways.
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The S5 was water resistant and has a removable battery.
Its 3 generation's old now so I would think the technology has gotten better since then as well
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Hey guy. Whats the intelligence behind sealed back covers. Profit. So when your battery goes out, you have to replace the phone not the battery. Defend samsung some more, South korea is currently suing samsung. Samsung Made this stupid decision. They could have pointed the finger at the battery manufacture and avoided the whole thing. But they had to seal it, resulting in a 19 billion dollar loss.
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Thanks for not addressing every other phone with a sealed battery. Your point is already flawed.
And if you think every decision made about a device isn't based around return on investment then you are lost.
You guys come in armchair quarterbacking this and cant think outside of a pretty small box to even have a logical discussion.
Also love profound statement of Company X did this to save money/profit, what a company did something in an attempt to make money?!
Lol defend samsung? Did you not see my last statement about how they screwed up by using internal QA or is your confirmation bais not allowing you to acknowledge that?
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The S5 was water resistant and has a removable battery.
Its 3 generation's old now so I would think the technology has gotten better since then as well
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If you read his post fully it says he doesnt see a reliable way of water proofing. Thing is the s5 had its fair share of unhappy users that utilized the water resistance only to realize they didn't secure one of the covers completely or the back wasnt fully closed. Then since water resistance doesnt negate water damage as a no no for insurance claims you had a lot of unhappy customers.
That being said you can't really think the resistance to ingress of moisture is better on the s5 than it is on s7.
The technology did improve, do you remember the design sacrifices for water proofing an s5? Physical buttons, port covers, what good is that in the event of an accident unless you always have them plugged.
Im not saying samsung is perfect but lets at least be objective when we discuss this.
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If you read his post fully it says he doesnt see a reliable way of water proofing. Thing is the s5 had its fair share of unhappy users that utilized the water resistance only to realize they didn't secure one of the covers completely or the back wasnt fully closed. Then since water resistance doesnt negate water damage as a no no for insurance claims you had a lot of unhappy customers.
That being said you can't really think the resistance to ingress of moisture is better on the s5 than it is on s7.
The technology did improve, do you remember the design sacrifices for water proofing an s5? Physical buttons, port covers, what good is that in the event of an accident unless you always have them plugged.
Im not saying samsung is perfect but lets at least be objective when we discuss this.
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Unreliable due to user error does not count, unreliable due to poor design and engineering is a different matter entirely.
Yes the ports all being covered was not exactly user friendly thats for sure.
And no of course I certainly would not expect the S5 to be better in regards to water resistance or anything else for tbat matter lol
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As an engineer we are taught to design for everything, including user error. An easy and repeated user error is called an engineering design flaw.
I am reminded of a tooth paste tube story where they changed the cap to be the pop off type instead of the screw off type. this is of course a better design as the pop top stays on the tube and is quicker than having to screw and unscrew the top each time. But consumers complained about a broken cap because they couldn't unscrew it. The designers did not say "stupid consumers" they said "bad design"
Not saying this is best for society, it limits progression, but its just the reality.
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As an engineer we are taught to design for everything, including user error. An easy and repeated user error is called an engineering design flaw.
I am reminded of a tooth paste tube story where they changed the cap to be the pop off type instead of the screw off type. this is of course a better design as the pop top stays on the tube and is quicker than having to screw and unscrew the top each time. But consumers complained about a broken cap because they couldn't unscrew it. The designers did not say "stupid consumers" they said "bad design"
Not saying this is best for society, it limits progression, but its just the reality.
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I beleive the layman's term is idiot proofing. Which from my experience is impossible as there is always one idiot who can find way to screw up even the best design or instructions lol
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I beleive the layman's term is idiot proofing. Which from my experience is impossible as there is always one idiot who can find way to screw up even the best design or instructions lol
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Agreed, no matter how much time i spend designing something, and thinking its idiot proof, Somebody somehow always finds a way......
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Thanks for not addressing every other phone with a sealed battery. Your point is already flawed.
And if you think every decision made about a device isn't based around return on investment then you are lost.
You guys come in armchair quarterbacking this and cant think outside of a pretty small box to even have a logical discussion.
Also love profound statement of Company X did this to save money/profit, what a company did something in an attempt to make money?!
Lol defend samsung? Did you not see my last statement about how they screwed up by using internal QA or is your confirmation bais not allowing you to acknowledge that?
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Now it looks like Samsung will have to defend itself. There being sued for this by the South Korean people. Look at the end of the day, I don't work for any of them so I don't really give a damn. I'm just talking out of my a$$ to rant sorry. You can delete this thread if you want.
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Now it looks like Samsung will have to defend itself. There being sued for this by the South Korean people. Look at the end of the day, I don't work for any of them so I don't really give a damn. I'm just talking out of my a$$ to rant sorry. You can delete this thread if you want.
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I think they should be sued. I will bet you money you will see a full influx of leaks for the s8 and all the hype and promotions will have everyone forget this mess even happened.
I have never been tied to one brand but Samsung solely because of the Note line has seen the most action for me. This go around I am ditching sammy for the Pixel. I can't act like coming from a Note 7 it doesnt feel like a downgrade but most phones on the market do at this point.
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I think they should be sued. I will bet you money you will see a full influx of leaks for the s8 and all the hype and promotions will have everyone forget this mess even happened.
I have never been tied to one brand but Samsung solely because of the Note line has seen the most action for me. This go around I am ditching sammy for the Pixel. I can't act like coming from a Note 7 it doesnt feel like a downgrade but most phones on the market do at this point.
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You know what's really bad? Besides the fact we are no longer seeing note 7 fires and from the ones that were officially found to be fraudulent or media bull****...i guarantee the note 8 will have people claiming their note 8 catches on fire when that comes out. I promise you there will be and I wouldn't be surprised if that's immediately cancelled without even bothering to realize people fake **** and possibly, though I doubt it, people and companies sabotage other companies.
Point is there defenantly was a design defect and Samsung screwed up but it is strange we aren't hearing about it anymore and I am genuinely concerned about the note 8 and bogus claims.
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I beleive the layman's term is idiot proofing. Which from my experience is impossible as there is always one idiot who can find way to screw up even the best design or instructions lol
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Samsung is a very autocratic company with the top-level brass often over ruling the engineers.
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Samsung is a very autocratic company with the top-level brass often over ruling the engineers.
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Which is not unlike many companies lol.
If i had a dollar for everytime Ive had to say "I told you so" to some dumb ass executive who overuled the correct course of action which then caused issues and the company alot of money Id be a rich man.
Anybody got the old .apk of Package Disabler Pro? It updated to prevent us from blocking system updates, and starting tomorrow, Samsung is rolling out updates to limit charging to 60%!
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Anybody got the old .apk of Package Disabler Pro? It updated to prevent us from blocking system updates, and starting tomorrow, Samsung is rolling out updates to limit charging to 60%!
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Guys uninstall the old package pro and download version 6.3 from this website. They disable the urgentfwupdate from version 6.6 which will allow samsung to send updates to our phones.
http://m.apkhere.com/app/com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
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Anybody got the old .apk of Package Disabler Pro? It updated to prevent us from blocking system updates, and starting tomorrow, Samsung is rolling out updates to limit charging to 60%!
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