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how can i kill my phone?

i have an att tilt and since they stopped making them and replaced it with the fuze/touch pro. i would like to get it. since i still have a warranty im thinking if i get the RLOD then they have to exchange it? also today my phone actually had the RLOD . i just took the battery out and put it back in and it worked, i told my dad what happened and he said that we should go take it and trade it in. so thats what got me thinkin, i want that phone, bc at first i didnt really like it and now after some research i see how much better it is. so how can i kill my phone with the RLOD? and if it (RLOD) happened today does that mean its probably gunna happen again?
Thanks

You are a bad boy! Killing is not good

They stopped selling them as new, but they certainly still have heaps for replacement/refurbishments. So if that worked I guess you'd have 90% chance of getting a replacement Tilt. Of course you'd still have to be under warranty, and have some luck with them.

Microwave baby!
Stick it in the microwave without the battery. Turn it on for a little bit I would say 5 to 10 seconds step back and listen for the zapzapzap, and I would be hard pressed if the thing worked after that.
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So you want us to help you commit consumer fraud, because you decided you want a new phone?
Dont we already have a thread going on how to get (cheat ) AT$T to give you a new fuze?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444726

well its not really consumer fraud b/c the whole thing started because of the RLOD. its not like i saw the fuse and was like hmm how can i get that? its been acting up the last week. text messages are all out of order, its really slow, and i dont have have a whole bunch of apps.
and is the RLOD most likely to happen again since it already happened once?

Right or Wrong?

OK, I have seen lots of threads about people returning or replacing rooted phones, and getting literally RAGED at by this community, so I am personally wondering, what is seen as wrong as right? I am not trying to start a post war, I am just honestly wondering... here is what it seems to be from what I have read.
If Not Rooted
*warranty covers failure, but not drops/spills etc.
*Covers spills/drops only if you pay extra for insurance, and u replace through insurance.
IF ROOTED/MODDED in any way
*Normal WARRANTY VOID FROM EVERYTHING
*IF you have insurance, AND you go through INSURANCE for replacement and pay, then it is OK as you pay for the service.
Correct here or not?

If not rooted.. correct points..
If rooted.. point 1 is correct... point 2.. you would have to look at the insurance TnC
ddggttff3 said:
OK, I have seen lots of threads about people returning or replacing rooted phones, and getting literally RAGED at by this community, so I am personally wondering, what is seen as wrong as right? I am not trying to start a post war, I am just honestly wondering... here is what it seems to be from what I have read.
If Not Rooted
*warranty covers failure, but not drops/spills etc.
*Covers spills/drops only if you pay extra for insurance, and u replace through insurance.
IF ROOTED/MODDED in any way
*Normal WARRANTY VOID FROM EVERYTHING
*IF you have insurance, AND you go through INSURANCE for replacement and pay, then it is OK as you pay for the service.
Correct here or not?
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I think this is an excellent thread and a much needed discussion.
If you root and flash anything to your phone at all, you have voided your warranty and should take responsibility for the consequences.
I have never had insurance, but my understanding of full coverage is that it has no restrictions. You are paying both a monthly premium plus a very high deductible for a replacement phone and you can throw it under a bus if you want to.
That seems perfectly reasonable to me...

Here's the deal, you should not expect your manufacturer or service provider to replace the phone you ****ed up by tinkering with it, this is what many people have done and it's called fraud, it's also a major reason why OEMs are starting to lock them down tight (along with people getting free tethering). If, however, you rooted and are having issues with the phones that are plain bugs with the stock software than you have every right to restore it and request a replacement. If you hack your phone up and screw up the boot process it is your fault and you need to take the hit. In most cases the phone can be recovered anyways, people are just too quick to assume it's "bricked" and don't know what they're doing.
If you pay extra for insurance then I suppose you have the right to use it but I still think it's not very moral, the insurance is supposed to cover accidental damage or loss, not failure due to hacking. It's kind of like when people drop their phones in toilets on purpose or they magically 'get lost' or 'stolen' so they can get a different phone.

Since these smart phones are just mini computers has anyone considered how computer manufacturers warranty their products?
If i give myself administrator access, or install a clean OS, or install linux, it doesn't void my warranty.
Now if something I did caused a hardware failure (ie overclocking the processor) than obviously the warranty FOR THAT PART is null and void. But not the warranty on the ram or hard drive.
I look at rooting and roming the same way. BUT I also know how to recover from my mistakes and will only do a restore/replacement through warranty channels if its hardware related.
If you mess around and dont know what you're doing, that's a different story.

ddggttff3 said:
OK, I have seen lots of threads about people returning or replacing rooted phones, and getting literally RAGED at by this community, so I am personally wondering, what is seen as wrong as right? I am not trying to start a post war, I am just honestly wondering... here is what it seems to be from what I have read.
If Not Rooted
*warranty covers failure, but not drops/spills etc.
*Covers spills/drops only if you pay extra for insurance, and u replace through insurance.
IF ROOTED/MODDED in any way
*Normal WARRANTY VOID FROM EVERYTHING
*IF you have insurance, AND you go through INSURANCE for replacement and pay, then it is OK as you pay for the service.
Correct here or not?
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This seems spot on to me.

"If you root and flash anything to your phone at all, you have voided your warranty and should take responsibility for the consequences."
"Here's the deal, you should not expect your manufacturer or service provider to replace the phone you ****ed up by tinkering with it, this is what many people have done and it's called fraud, it's also a major reason why OEMs are starting to lock them down tight (along with people getting free tethering)."
Nothing I did injured the phone or software. To back up your apps and SETTINGs correctly, you need root. I bought the phone with a data connection issue and a rebooting issue, I didn't create them. If Moto and Verizon aren't going to push software to repair these issues, I have the right to do it with a leaked file. If they don't want the return phones, release the OS's without all the verifications.
I purchased a phone that workes as advertised per MY contract and I didn't receive that.
As for the tether issue, Verizon shouldn't have the right to control how you use data plan, especially if it's capped.
It wouldn't surprise me if alot of the haters are Verizon employees. They lurked everywhere on Crackberry when I was still using my BB and running hybrids.

Unless I run software that melts the inside of my phone how is it really voiding the warrnty? Seriously, any software problem we create could be easily fixed with the properly released software.
You give me a phone that works all the time and ill stop messing with it. Verizon doesn't care about incovincing you, why would I care if I cause them trouble by tampering with my phone and then exchanging it, when they can easily release the software so I can fix it myself?
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I'm not a lawyer so take this with a grain of salt but the "voided warranty" issue can be looked at in the framework of cars. I believe there is a law that says a warranty on one part of the car can't be considered void because of some other alteration. For example if you get an aftermarket exhaust and then a week later your transmission bites the dust the manufacturer can't say that the exhaust you put on caused a problem with the transmission so they therefore must honor the warranty on the transmission. So if you root your phone, put a new ROM on it, and then your display goes out then in theory, the law should say they still have to honor the warranty because the software change didn't cause the display to fail. Anything else is on you. So, if you are dissatisfied with any aspect of the performance of the stock phone which leads you flash something that you are equally dissatisfied with then legally you have given up your right to complain even if the same problem existed with the stock phone. Morally, I might argue that if the problem existed from the onset and it continued to exist after the flash then you only tried to mitigate the original problem so in certain circumstances you might be justified in returning. If you flash something that causes FCs, or some other new problem then that is squarely on you.
The insurance question isn't a question either morally or legally. I don't believe there are any insurance policies that take into account software tinkering so you shouldn't lean on the insurance for your mistakes. I don't think insurance for bad flashes could be offered as they'd suffer from adverse selection. Adverse selection is where the only people that want to buy insurance are the ones that will almost certainly use it. If the only people that want to buy insurance are the ones that will almost certainly use it then the premium would end up very high.
As far as the analogy to desktop/laptop warranties, I don't think that is a good analogy. With desktop PCs the OS lives on a hard drive and the BIOS is rarely if ever flashed. With phones, the OS lives on firmware so updates are all flashed which in some cases is a process that can't be undone without a JTAG (or similar). With a desktop computer, no matter how bad you screw up your system with viruses, malware, driver corruption, etc; you can just reformat your hard drive and start over.
just my $0.02

You are right on both counts. If your device is acting up mechanically or electrically then the warranty covers, provided it is not rooted when it comes into Verizon. That's the whole key right there. Just don't mention it was rooted. Here is why. The warranty says it has to be mechanical or electrical failures. Rooting (except for overclocking) wont cause that. It can mimic it, for instance the screen cutting out or power cycles. As long as its locked and stock when it comes into the returns warehouse your ok.
As for insurance. If its Asurion, which it probably is, they will replace it. Insurance covers loss, theft, and damage. Bricking it is no different than dropping it in the lake, or a glass of tea. It's not fraud. It's what you pay for.
Now for a short soap box. Don't just brick it and call Asurion. Try to fix it, it's usually fixable.
Now for the Verizon Employee hater. Get bent. Those employees are here on their own time doing things with their equipment. Im sick of people making them out as the bad guys. They work their ass off day in and day out. Its a job. For those that say that employee should be ashamed of working for the company, get real. Its a service. The employees need a job and most try very hard to balance the policies and customer satisfaction. I don't see you quitting your job because people *****. You take it with a grain of salt, help how you can, and move on. The people that complain constantly are a very small minority that are no better than trolls. Complain when you have need to. Like the bs $2.00 convenience fee. Thanks to customer complaints it was cancelled.
I'll take my soap box and go now. Just keep in mind, working for a company, doesn't make one bad.
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I blame Motorola for letting us soak test for them. So if people want to return the devices that arr rooted then go for it. Motor reflashes everything anyhow
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I'm surprised that the manufacturers don't just put put up a site for each phone. You go, read what keys get you in recovery, Fast Boot, etc., plug your phone in via USB and flash a new image. The best devs here never (super rare) truly "Brick" their phones. I'm sure moto could give us that technology, I don't see why they don't...I bet they would have a lot less refurbs required.
Can somebody 'splain it to me?

junksecret said:
I'm surprised that the manufacturers don't just put put up a site for each phone. You go, read what keys get you in recovery, Fast Boot, etc., plug your phone in via USB and flash a new image. The best devs here never (super rare) truly "Brick" their phones. I'm sure moto could give us that technology, I don't see why they don't...I bet they would have a lot less refurbs required.
Can somebody 'splain it to me?
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I agree. If you have the where-with-all to hose your phone by modding, you likely have the ability to fix it with the right tools being provided. Those that hack will hack. Those that don't won't. By providing the tools to restore it does not open the door to more folks hacking their phones and likely will reduce the number of units going back, IMHO.
Also -- I see no reason why a software hack should void a HARDWARE warranty. Sure -- support should no longer be provided for "soft" issues, but if there is a HARDWARE issue, i.e. battery won't hold a charge or display goes out, etc., a ROOT or ROM should not be reason for denying the required warranty service. Again -- IMHO.

I think if you hard brick your phone you should eat it. Your fault.
I've had 3 phones with locked bootloaders (and fixed others) and I've always recovered from a brick.
If you brick your phone because you tried to flash something or RSD with a low battery - your fault.
Verizon sent me a Razr over my Bionic due to me complaining about my data issues. I restored it (system/kernel) and sent it back. Phone is in flawless condition. I compare it to jaywalking or pirating a song/movie. Moral decision.
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BRICKED my One

Had my One plugged in to the USB on my computer...unplugged it because it was plugged in to USB 3 and needed it in USB 2....brick. No rhyme or reason. No power, no bootloader, no recover, no charge, nothing. Went to Sprint, they were unable to do anything either so they're ordering me a new device. They said it wont be a refurb since its so new so that's nice.
Not really sure why I'm sharing but wanted to get the info out there just in case others may have had the same thing happen to them or just be careful if you keep your device plugged in and you unplug it from the computers USB or AC usb.
PS The way the Sprint Tech's looked over my device really worried me and worries me for the future when I'll actually have some signs of wear and tear on the device. They normally have the ability to check for water damage with the stickers on the battery and a few other locations....well that doesnt exist for the One, at least in a very accessible spot. He took my phone (looks brand new) to his manager and his manager said "I think you'll be fine to replace it." Well, if my phone has scuffs all over it, etc a hardware issue doenst automatically stem from the wear and tear but I believe that's going to be the One's "indicator" and I think some may have a serious issue getting warranty repairs done since they dont have a true way of telling signs of water damage, etc without destroying the device by taking it apart.

I must say though....this is the sexiest paperweight ever.

as someone who has worked for sprint as a repair tech I can say you shouldnt be worried. The policy goes like this when trying to qualify a device for a replacement at no cost (for those with insurance that is).
1.Screen Cracks
2. Water Damage
3. Personal hardware modification (if the tech is an ass he can call you out on custom roms etc...but we usually let this slide)
Outside of that NO sprint store should EVER deny you a replace if its a legit issue just because of some nicks or scratches. Cosmetic damage isnt part of the criteria. So if you find a store that does **** you around when you know youre in the right....find another store or call corporate because thats NOT how its supposed to work.

HaiKaiDo said:
as someone who has worked for sprint as a repair tech I can say you shouldnt be worried. The policy goes like this when trying to qualify a device for a replacement at no cost (for those with insurance that is).
1.Screen Cracks
2. Water Damage
3. Personal hardware modification (if the tech is an ass he can call you out on custom roms etc...but we usually let this slide)
Outside of that NO sprint store should EVER deny you a replace if its a legit issue just because of some nicks or scratches. Cosmetic damage isnt part of the criteria. So if you find a store that does **** you around when you know youre in the right....find another store or call corporate because thats NOT how its supposed to work.
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Thanks...so I know that on the HTC Dev website it states the generic warnings but Sprint still will not cover any issues from developing even though it appears to be widely accepted now?

Tyzing said:
Thanks...so I know that on the HTC Dev website it states the generic warnings but Sprint still will not cover any issues from developing even though it appears to be widely accepted now?
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Yeah sometimes it just depends on who the technician is as to if they are going to cut you some slack or not. The good thing is most techs really dont know anything indepth about custom roms or rooting. So if you dont say much to them you should be fine.

HaiKaiDo said:
Yeah sometimes it just depends on who the technician is as to if they are going to cut you some slack or not. The good thing is most techs really dont know anything indepth about custom roms or rooting. So if you dont say much to them you should be fine.
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This. About a week before I got my One, I had gone into my local corp store with my GNex which had an unlocked bootloader, but wasn't rooted. I was having awful signal issues, even with the free Airave that was sent to me. Two managers and finally a tech from the back looked over that phone, rebooting it several times. Each time I winced because that big white unlocked lock symbol showed up and I just was waiting for one of them to say something. The closest one was one of the managers asked if I was "jailbroken" because he didn't recognize my Beautiful Widgets weather widget. I walked out of there with a NIB GNex. (A week later I got an early upgrade and sold it back for my black One).

As a retail consultant for Sprint, I'm shocked how little our techs do know tbh. Lol. I run circles around these guys in triage.
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Skyymiles said:
As a retail consultant for Sprint, I'm shocked how little our techs do know tbh. Lol. I run circles around these guys in triage.
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I've only met one guy at the sprint store that knew anything about android. He was telling me how he got his contract terminated because he used the Verizon prl for the gnex

Skyymiles said:
As a retail consultant for Sprint, I'm shocked how little our techs do know tbh. Lol. I run circles around these guys in triage.
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Youd love my store then :]. Me and the other tech are baws lol.

Did I get lucky or is a bill coming my way?

Phone fell today. Demolished. Screen got cracked all over the place. Housing chipped. Filed an RMA with Motorola just to see what would happen. Was figuring best case scenario they charge me $175 to replace it. I've had it maybe 2 or 3 weeks.
After not even an hour I get emails back and one of them is a code to order a new one NO CHARGE.
I listed the damage as Physical>Other and gave the description: Phone fell.....screen and housing are both messed up. Doesn't power on.
Do you think this is free, or when they actually see the phone are they going to charge me? I don't even mind if it is $175 I feel stupid as **** for dropping the phone and really can't afford to buy a new one. However, I'd obviously take free too lol.

gpgorbosjr said:
Phone fell today. Demolished. Screen got cracked all over the place. Housing chipped. Filed an RMA with Motorola just to see what would happen. Was figuring best case scenario they charge me $175 to replace it. I've had it maybe 2 or 3 weeks.
After not even an hour I get emails back and one of them is a code to order a new one NO CHARGE.
I listed the damage as Physical>Other and gave the description: Phone fell.....screen and housing are both messed up. Doesn't power on.
Do you think this is free, or when they actually see the phone are they going to charge me? I don't even mind if it is $175 I feel stupid as **** for dropping the phone and really can't afford to buy a new one. However, I'd obviously take free too lol.
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Sounds like a free repair to me! lol

Only time will tell, with the recent buyout and some Moto employees likely getting laid off in the near future they may just not care. They could have also hooked you up for just being honest.
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someguyatx said:
Only time will tell, with the recent buyout and some Moto employees likely getting laid off in the near future they may just not care. They could have also hooked you up for just being honest.
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The buyout isn't even approved yet and won't be for some time. This is almost 100% not the reason.
I'm willing to bet he ends up paying as the system is most likely automated and when someone sees the physical damage they will comes looking for cash.
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Schaweet said:
The buyout isn't even approved yet and won't be for some time. This is almost 100% not the reason.
I'm willing to bet he ends up paying as the system is most likely automated and when someone sees the physical damage they will comes looking for cash.
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But the worst case scenario should be $175 right?
The message did have a name at the end of it, although I'm sure it could still have been automated and at the very least is pre-written.
If they try and charge me full price I WILL fight that lmao. $175 I'll argue a little since they said free of charge in the email but I know it was human error so I'd ultimately relent and pay it if they ask.
EDIT: I feel like if it was automated the fact that I chose Physical damage as the reason would prohibit it from sending out the free code right away. Know what I mean? If you charge $175 for physical damage why would you have the system automate a free code for an RMA filed as physical.

very good point. Maybe they are being nice
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Schaweet said:
I'm willing to bet he ends up paying as the system is most likely automated and when someone sees the physical damage they will comes looking for cash.
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This... RMAs are for returns. Once they see you're returning a busted device they'll hit you up for payment. I'm curious to know how it turns out; keep us updated.

kbluhm said:
This... RMAs are for returns. Once they see you're returning a busted device they'll hit you up for payment. I'm curious to know how it turns out; keep us updated.
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Link
I asked for a repair. There is a separate option for merchandise return.
A return merchandise authorization (RMA) or return goods authorization (RGA) is a part of the process of returning a product in order to receive a refund, replacement, or repair during the product's warranty period.
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The logic with what I did and how their site works is really supporting that they know I damaged it and gave me the free replacement. Now it is just a waiting game to see if they change their tune.

gpgorbosjr said:
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I asked for a repair. There is a separate option for merchandise return.
The logic with what I did and how their site works is really supporting that they know I damaged it and gave me the free replacement. Now it is just a waiting game to see if they change their tune.
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They don't have to change their tune. A repair in this case is anything covered under warranty. For instance, you're just using your phone normally and one day the screen goes haywire... suddenly no external sound... cannot connect to wifi... stops charging... those sort of things. Hardware or software defects that are beyond your control.
I am sure with the volume of devices coming and going, they are not sitting there and spell checking each and every RMA that comes in. They have their own review process and for the sake of customer satisfaction they expedite the process automatically till it can be fully reviewed.
But still please keep us updated.

kbluhm said:
They don't have to change their tune. A repair in this case is anything covered under warranty. For instance, you're just using your phone normally and one day the screen goes haywire... suddenly no external sound... cannot connect to wifi... stops charging... those sort of things. Hardware or software defects that are beyond your control.
I am sure with the volume of devices coming and going, they are not sitting there and spell checking each and every RMA that comes in. They have their own review process and for the sake of customer satisfaction they expedite the process automatically till it can be fully reviewed.
But still please keep us updated.
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As of right now I have a free replacement. So if they decide to charge me, that'd be a change of tune.
Also, they clearly state on their warranty page that they support in AND out of warranty repairs and that out of warranty repair can be applied for online, which is exactly how I did it.
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Now there is no question they can wind up trying to charge me, but they are doing everything they can to imply that isn't what they want to do.
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But anyway I'm not trying to say their system is working the right way or that I deserve a free replacement. I'm just making my own observations on the situation. I don't feel like arguing about it. Let's see what happens, but most companies don't offer free replacements, allow you to make/ship the phone THEN chase you down to pay.

gpgorbosjr said:
As of right now I have a free replacement. So if they decide to charge me, that'd be a change of tune.
Also, they clearly state on their warranty page that they support in AND out of warranty repairs and that out of warranty repair can be applied for online, which is exactly how I did it.
Link
Now there is no question they can wind up trying to charge me, but they are doing everything they can to imply that isn't what they want to do.
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But anyway I'm not trying to say their system is working the right way or that I deserve a free replacement. I'm just making my own observations on the situation. I don't feel like arguing about it. Let's see what happens, but most companies don't offer free replacements, allow you to make/ship the phone THEN chase you down to pay.
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The only game changer would be if you bought the $85 two-year protection plan. But you haven't brought that up so I'm left to assume you did not.
But once again, please keep us updated. That form does imply some type of flat-rate replacement service... but it says nothing about giving you a brand spanking new device.

flashlight won't turn off, please help me

i lost my job today, got drunk and dropped my phone in the toilet accidentally. picked it up all was fine, a few hours later the flashlight came on and i can not turn it off. restarted, reset and erased everything, its still on. please help me. it's also my birthday. i'm a ****ing idiot

also it stays on even if i power it down.

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also it stays on even if i power it down.
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Sounds broken, keep electronics out the crapper
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ok i get that. can anyone provide anything useful that could help me? there has to be a way to turn the flash off. i'm cool with taking the phone apart if necs.
also, these phones are supposed to be waterproof, at least the video from youtube claims.

alright so maybe i should have started this thread differently, seems like always people want to judge you when you tell them you were drunk and dropped your phone. please just try to frickin help me.
i cannot access quick settings flashlight. no widget available either. i download flashlight apps and they say "another program is using this function" or something. so somehow my phone is convinced the flashlight should be on permanently. it literally works fine otherwise. i would really appreciate input on what i could TRY to do to fix it. if it's broken, then it's broken. my fault and we'll all move on. however it seems to me like if i can find a way to access stock flashlight functions, it would probably turn off. unbeknownst to me, that doesn't seem possible atm.
thanks for any help.

Even though the N6 is supposed to be water-resistant, there may be a short circuit caused by water. Switch off, put it in a stocking or sock (porous but preventing the ports being clogged) and put it in a bowl of dry rice in a warm cupboard for 24 hours. If it's still broken after that then it was probably the impact rather than the water that caused the problem.

Have ya tried to force stop the flashlight app?
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Send the device to Motorola. The rice trick doesn't always work, and at this point wouldn't make a bit of difference anyway. Turning on the screen after dunking the Nexus caused the battery to surge, and it likely fried the connector that leads to the camera, causing the short circuit that leaves the flash on. This requires replacing the motherboard, unless you got extremely lucky and the short is in the camera module itself.

Sounds like one baaad day. I've been there myself but not recently. The bright side is you'll laugh about it some day
If you're willing to sacrifice the flashlight and possibly camera in order to use the rest of the phone without crazy battery drain, I imagine you could disconnect the flash unit internally somehow

dahawthorne said:
Even though the N6 is supposed to be water-resistant, there may be a short circuit caused by water. Switch off, put it in a stocking or sock (porous but preventing the ports being clogged) and put it in a bowl of dry rice in a warm cupboard for 24 hours. If it's still broken after that then it was probably the impact rather than the water that caused the problem.
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the N6 is not water resistant. no one officially ever said it was.

Best bet is to send it to Motorola if not possible open it up and clean everything with 90% isopropyl alcohol
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Well, I'm not going to get into an argument about whether it was officially stated that it was water-resistant, but a quick search for "Nexus 6 water" throws up a series of "yes it is" including a Motorola screenshot showing "yes".
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...-water-resistance-tested-immersion-water.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO_aTg1VU6k
http://forums.androidcentral.com/at...206t-nexus-6-water-resistant-proof-126633.jpg
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...-Hidden-Features-Android-Lollipop-5-1-Phablet
"Another detail Google neglected to list in its full specification for the phone is its reported water resistance. However, the Motorola website confirms the flagship phone is resistant to water.
However, the smartphone manufacturer does not list an IP rating for the Nexus 6."
Of no importance - not worth starting WW3 over it...

dahawthorne said:
Well, I'm not going to get into an argument about whether it was officially stated that it was water-resistant, but a quick search for "Nexus 6 water" throws up a series of "yes it is" including a Motorola screenshot showing "yes".
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...-water-resistance-tested-immersion-water.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO_aTg1VU6k
http://forums.androidcentral.com/at...206t-nexus-6-water-resistant-proof-126633.jpg
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...-Hidden-Features-Android-Lollipop-5-1-Phablet
"Another detail Google neglected to list in its full specification for the phone is its reported water resistance. However, the Motorola website confirms the flagship phone is resistant to water.
However, the smartphone manufacturer does not list an IP rating for the Nexus 6."
Of no importance - not worth starting WW3 over it...
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The 5.96 inch phablet will be water resistant, just like its relative, the Moto X. There are limitations to this feature, especially since water resistance is not even listed on the official Nexus landing page. It is listed on the Motorola official Nexus 6 page though… There’s no IP rating given, because it’s unlikely this model can be submerged in water, but rather splash proof.
This means you can use the handset during a light rain without fearing damage, but you probably won’t be able to use it if you drop it into a pool. The handset comes with dual front facing speakers, with stereo sound, a 13 megapixel back camera with OIS and automatic HDR+. If you’re tempted by the phone, it costs $650 off contract.
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"There’s no IP rating given, because it’s unlikely this model can be submerged in water, but rather splash proof"
theres no IP rating given" means its technically not water resistant.
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when the n6 was released, some idiot put out a YouTube vid showing his n6 underwater, and charging. so, other people went ahead and tried it. it turned out that lots of other oeople ended up destroting their nexus 6's. theres a reason that theres no water resistance rating on the n6..

Agreed, but as I said it's of little importance. I mentioned it only in passing, not making a big deal of it...
Anyone who deliberately puts a $800 phone in water just to see if it's waterproof is an imbecile who deserves all he gets (and I mean "he" - a woman wouldn't be so stupid).

dahawthorne said:
Agreed, but as I said it's of little importance. I mentioned it only in passing, not making a big deal of it...
Anyone who deliberately puts a $800 phone in water just to see if it's waterproof is an imbecile who deserves all he gets (and I mean "he" - a woman wouldn't be so stupid).
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a agree, most likely a woman wouldnt do it :angel:

thanks guys. i literally cannot find the flashlight app, and when i remove everything in quick settings except the flashlight shortcut, it does not show up. like it's weird...i could have shorted it and all that, but why is the app completely missing? like i said earlier, i think if i could FIND the app and force stop it, i may could solve the problem. that just screams software issue to me. thanks for any continued help.
and yeah, i don't really care if the n6 is water resistant or not. this thing stayed submerged for literally a couple of seconds. the flashlight did not immediately turn on, it was several hours later after a reboot. so hell this could just be a really odd coincidence and the whole dropping it in the water thing has nothing to do with what is happening. i have no idea. as i said a while back, maybe i should have eliminated that part of this story when i posted and just said "my flashlight stays on, even after a factory reset, and i can not find the "flashlight" app itself so don't know how to turn it off."
honestly i've been far drunker before and whipped out the phone while pissing and never once dropped it. we don't have to evaluate my state of mind but this was seriously a case of just everything going wrong in a single day. again, i just want to resolve this whole thing and hope you guys can potentially provide more helpful answers.
edit: send it to motorola and say what? i bought it i think in september so it's probably still under warranty. but i got it for like $300 on ebay and honestly i'm not sure if the guy was an authorized seller or not.
ALSO i am rooted, i assume the factory reset did not unroot me because it says i need to update the SU binary. i used nexus root toolkit. could i just plug it in and revert it back to stock with the NRT?

tuffluck said:
thanks guys. i literally cannot find the flashlight app, and when i remove everything in quick settings except the flashlight shortcut, it does not show up. like it's weird...i could have shorted it and all that, but why is the app completely missing? like i said earlier, i think if i could FIND the app and force stop it, i may could solve the problem. that just screams software issue to me. thanks for any continued help.
and yeah, i don't really care if the n6 is water resistant or not. this thing stayed submerged for literally a couple of seconds. the flashlight did not immediately turn on, it was several hours later after a reboot. so hell this could just be a really odd coincidence and the whole dropping it in the water thing has nothing to do with what is happening.
honestly i've been far drunker before and whipped out the phone while pissing and never once dropped it. we don't have to evaluate my state of mind but this was seriously a case of just everything going wrong in a day.
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you can turn it on and off with ok google. ok google turn on the flashlight, and ok google turn off the flashlight.

simms22 said:
you can turn it on and off with ok google. ok google turn on the flashlight, and ok google turn off the flashlight.
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great idea...i just tried it and it says "unfortunately google has stopped working" when i "ok google" any other command, it works just fine. i tried this many times and it always force closed the google app. this flashlight app is playing with my head now.

tuffluck said:
edit: send it to motorola and say what? i bought it i think in september so it's probably still under warranty. but i got it for like $300 on ebay and honestly i'm not sure if the guy was an authorized seller or not.
ALSO i am rooted, i assume the factory reset did not unroot me because it says i need to update the SU binary. i used nexus root toolkit. could i just plug it in and revert it back to stock with the NRT?
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You'd have to pay for the repair, since you are not the original purchaser. Motorola's warranty is non-transferable. Thus, it doesn't matter whether you're rooted or not. However, if the warranty DID apply, the fact you were rooted would make no difference. This is a Nexus device, and in general the manufacturers are very forgiving on that detail.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNLOCKED-Mo...t-Blue-4G-LTE-Cell-Phone-XT1103-/281482386847
this is who i bought it from, but again i only paid $299 at the time. it doesn't say authorized seller so i emailed him and asked. still if i look up the N6 warranty it just says "This Limited Warranty extends only to the first consumer purchaser of the Product, and is not transferable" and all that is true in my case. i bought it brand new, only owner. so maybe it wouldn't matter if it was an authorized seller?
of course it states also that any liquid damage would void the warranty. are their liquid sensors on the N6 like there are on other phones, and where are they if so and can i check to see if they were triggered? lastly it says of course root voids the warranty, but before i did root i thought the NRT could easily return me to stock without anyone knowing i ever did root/unlock it. please let me know if all of things are possible. i will contact motorola here shortly by phone and just make sure i can send it in at all, obviously not mentioning the water/root thing.
http://motorola-global-portal.custh...GLOBAL WARRANTY-MOBILE PHONES-AUGUST 2011.pdf