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Opening the back cover of this device will void your warranty...

So i have been having issues with my device. The device will shut off, sometimes not charge properly and the device will die and i will have to unplug the battery and plug it back in to power cycle the device and for it to register a charge. So i decided to call and explain this to the "tech" the moment i mentioned that i opened the device and did this they said i had "voided" my warranty and i would have to contact Asus.
Yeah. I voided my warranty by popped open the back and unplugged the battery. This is how i was treated. Also.. I then request a supervisor who then states the same thing.. they give me a "mercy" repair and then proceed to setup a repair, but they have "noted" that i have voided my warranty by "messing with the internal components, and that the back was not made to be opened." That if they verify that i have "messed with this" i will be charged the full amount for the replacement device.
Seriously? I am fuming right now. they pretty much made me feel like i had broken a law by opening up their PLASTIC device. the back is held on by clips.. no screws, warranty stick, or any other type of method of removal. I was told that the "normal" consumer would never do that... and that i definitely voided my warranty.. I am so peeved right now i could hit something. Seriously?!
Good job Google. Your first major device made by "you" and this is how you treat your customer. Thank god i'm an Apple user and i was an ex-Applecare rep and RULE 1, you never accuse the customer of doing anything. You never make them feel like some inept POS because you popped off a battery cover. WOW. Last Google product i buy. Seriously. I have never had a customer experience where i was berated on the phone as some sort of villain.. by 2 "techs" Not only that.. the "supervisor" said .."oh sir, it's not that easy to pop the back off.. you really have to get IN THERE"
Peeved. XDA has anyone been treated like that by them? I thought the Nexus line was for the "tech savy" you know the ones that can root, unlock, and develop.. yet i was treated like a criminal for doing some basic trouble shooting. I told the tech on the phone.. what if i had bought this 2nd hand and couldn't turn it on.. the SERIAL NUMBER IS ON THE INSIDE LID.. she just said.. "well i understand that.. but you still voided your warranty.."
WOW.

google should let people play as long as they dont short it out.

The Afroman said:
So i have been having issues with my device. The device will shut off, sometimes not charge properly and the device will die and i will have to unplug the battery and plug it back in to power cycle the device and for it to register a charge. So i decided to call and explain this to the "tech" the moment i mentioned that i opened the device and did this they said i had "voided" my warranty and i would have to contact Asus.
Yeah. I voided my warranty by popped open the back and unplugged the battery. This is how i was treated. Also.. I then request a supervisor who then states the same thing.. they give me a "mercy" repair and then proceed to setup a repair, but they have "noted" that i have voided my warranty by "messing with the internal components, and that the back was not made to be opened." That if they verify that i have "messed with this" i will be charged the full amount for the replacement device.
Seriously? I am fuming right now. they pretty much made me feel like i had broken a law by opening up their PLASTIC device. the back is held on by clips.. no screws, warranty stick, or any other type of method of removal. I was told that the "normal" consumer would never do that... and that i definitely voided my warranty.. I am so peeved right now i could hit something. Seriously?!
Good job Google. Your first major device made by "you" and this is how you treat your customer. Thank god i'm an Apple user and i was an ex-Applecare rep and RULE 1, you never accuse the customer of doing anything. You never make them feel like some inept POS because you popped off a battery cover. WOW. Last Google product i buy. Seriously. I have never had a customer experience where i was berated on the phone as some sort of villain.. by 2 "techs" Not only that.. the "supervisor" said .."oh sir, it's not that easy to pop the back off.. you really have to get IN THERE"
Peeved. XDA has anyone been treated like that by them? I thought the Nexus line was for the "tech savy" you know the ones that can root, unlock, and develop.. yet i was treated like a criminal for doing some basic trouble shooting. I told the tech on the phone.. what if i had bought this 2nd hand and couldn't turn it on.. the SERIAL NUMBER IS ON THE INSIDE LID.. she just said.. "well i understand that.. but you still voided your warranty.."
WOW.
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Is there any documentation that came bundled with your device that clearly provides instructions for how to remove the back cover and how to disconnect the battery? does the device even have a battery that is user removable and replaceable ?
no to both and you knew that... you had to search for information online to perform that and you still did it knowing full well that wasn't allowed.
the moment your device showed any signs of issues you should have contacted Google to get an RMA
Warranty is present on our devices with rules in place. you broke the rules and then admitted to it to a tech and expect something different?
You are not supposed to open the cover plain and simple, if you expect the company that sold it to you to honor the warranty which means they trust you haven't touched anything inside then you leave it alone and always contact them for service. that's your complete circle..
Open your device and you lose that ability because now it is assumed A. you have touched or modified something, B. you know what you are doing since you have opened the device up.
They have no idea what you have done, you expect them to just take your word for it? I'd love to see that fly at the dealership on your new car... "Yea the engine blew, it was making a ticking sound but before notifying you guys I went ahead and took the engine cover off and looked around and also changed a few things but i still have my warranty right? kthnxbai
The Nexus line has nothing to do with being for people that are tech savy... thats just the general consensus of people that choose ANDROID over IOS.
People buy the Nexus line because they want the full unmodified Google experience AND the latest OS updates from Google plain and simple.
Either play by their rules and leave the device alone and if it has issues notify them, get an RMA and send it back that's what they are there for. not to clean up the mess that happens after you touched the device in a way you weren't supposed to.
Even if you didn't do anything other than open the cover, how are they supposed to know? just trust you? :laugh:
Why did they accuse you? because like an idiot you just told them straight up yes I opened the device even though I know i'm not supposed to.
Lucky they gave you the mercy repair....

Well i feel for you brother, it's not like you broke the device yourself...that said it's pretty clear the back cover is not designed to be removed by consumers, and you really should have known that disconnecting the battery could technically void your warranty.
While some companies may be lenient with their warranty policies, you certainly shouldn't expect it; so to admit.that you played around with the internals was a little naive i'm afraid. I remember hearing a story about techs at one company being instructed to look for rooted phones that had been sent in so that the warranty could be voided (because technically rooting was a breach of conditions).
But look, you might get lucky and they won't charge you if the fault is obviously not your fault. I hope it works out for you.

I'd have been more surprised if they did NOT void the warranty when you told them that. Its pretty common sense that you should not tell techs that you have opened a device.

The Afroman said:
Peeved. XDA has anyone been treated like that by them? I thought the Nexus line was for the "tech savy" you know the ones that can root, unlock, and develop.. yet i was treated like a criminal for doing some basic trouble shooting.
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Sounds to me like you were treated as someone who voided his warranty. Which is exactly what you did. Sounds fair to me.
It's your responsibility to know what voids the warranty, and you're trying to make others suffer for your mistake.
And the tech savvy people know that when they open up and mess with their devices, they're on their own.
FYI, the Nexus 7 back cover is not made to be just popped off like many phone back covers so you probably damaged something as well.

Taking the back off the N7 does not void the warranty. However, I think there is a "VOID" sticker on one of the screws that keep the battery connected to the device that if removed, this DOES void the warranty. I would look, but I can't pop the back off my N7 because I just clipped my fingernails, haha. But I have taken off the back of my previous N7s various times and sent them all back with out any problems. I just haven't tampered with the stickers that say "VOID" on them.

Obvious warranty voiding action is obvious.
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They made it a sealed back for a reason they don't want people messing and you have silly to do it. Its like moaning you have bricked your nexus and moaning they won't give you a new one. Same as in game shops the minute you take it out the cellophane its none-returnable. You should of phoned them straight away when you noticed the problem.
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Never tell any company you tried to fix some thing your self
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Look. Seriously I understand. I get it. If i damaged the device, the warranty should be voided. But i didn't. Second. Most devices, that do NOT want you in the back would..
A.) Not make the back held on by snaps, that are super easy to remove (please don't tell me it's hard or difficult to remove because it's not) The devices that have tamper proof backs have screws with warranty voiding measures like a sticker that says (VOID WARRANTY) and a screw under it.. Or they would have a security Torx screw.. or something! Go check your devices..
B.) I have spent hours looking and reading the warranty manual and NOTHING in there says you can't remove the battery back. Have anyof you owned a Galaxy S (the original) the battery back snaps on the exact same way. you have to pop it off with snaps all around the edge. Also.. nothing inside the back says "HEY if you remove this you void your warrenty!"
C.) I get the battery is not user replaceable.. sort of.. it's one plug and you pop it out.. but i think the battery is held with glue so i wouldn't remove it.. but come on guys i'm seriously not trying to be a ****, i know if i had opened something that said "DONT OPEN" or there was a screw on back i wouldn't have said anything when i called.. but this is silly.. the moment i mentioned i popped the back off, they threw up there hands and ignored the fact that the device was having issues prior..
D.) In the Warranty paper work it says "the Product has been tampered with, repaired and/or modified by non-authorized personnal:" So opening the back that is easy to open but has no TAMPER PROOF anything voids your warranty.. in that sentence i don't think i did ANY OF IT. I didn't take it apart, unscrew, replace parts, etc.. all i did was open to unplug and plug battery back in.. if thats tampering.. then we ALL have void our warranties on MANY devices as i'm sure that wording is used on MANY devices warranties.
Seriously though I know when i have been beaten. I can admit defeat but the way i was treated on the phone was awful. I can't understand how that is good customer service. Adult conversation here.

And you blame Google for this.....
If your device was cutting out and not charging then why didn't you get it repaired or replaced under warranty instead of messing about with the internals? Clearly you must have done more than just opening the back cover, someone who goes that far will meddle with the battery and connectors which definitely VOIDS your warranty. It's not the same as opening the back cover of a Galaxy phone that has a user replaceable battery.... this doesn't
Seriously the more people like you move back to Apple the better these forums would get. Good luck

Xda seems full of assholes today.. (not you op!)
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Frostfree said:
And you blame Google for this.....
If your device was cutting out and not charging then why didn't you get it repaired or replaced under warranty instead of messing about with the internals? Clearly you must have done more than just opening the back cover, someone who goes that far will meddle with the battery and connectors which definitely VOIDS your warranty. It's not the same as opening the back cover of a Galaxy phone that has a user replaceable battery.... this doesn't
Seriously the more people like you move back to Apple the better these forums would get. Good luck
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The battery connection problem is very common many people have fixed it the way he tried the only mistake he made is telling them about it
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Frostfree said:
And you blame Google for this.....
If your device was cutting out and not charging then why didn't you get it repaired or replaced under warranty instead of messing about with the internals? Clearly you must have done more than just opening the back cover, someone who goes that far will meddle with the battery and connectors which definitely VOIDS your warranty.
Seriously the more people like you move back to Apple the better these forums would get. Good luck
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Wow. More people like you make Google users seem elitist. Yes i did unplug the battery you know that thing we as electronic users have been doing for YEARS. it was the only way to get it to turn back on.. is that too difficult for you? I like how you probably have never read the warranty insert but are already siding with a company of their "meaning" of the rules.
I guess everyone here would be ok if you mentioned resetting the batteries in your remote control for your TV and they said. OH well you voided the warranty..?

rcarnes911 said:
The battery connection problem is very common many people have fixed it the way he tried the only mistake he made is telling them about it
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Thanks. Thank you. Someone understands.. I admit i guess it was my fault for mentioning.. it. Now my account is "has been noted" So now i will probably not send it in for repair, because they seem to "maybe" want to charge me full price which BTW is 200 for an 8GB they don't even have it set to 150 as it should be for a device that has been replaced pricewise for the 16GB.

wow the back of the nexus is not like any phone back. there is a groove or a notch to remove phone backs. Thats like saying the ipod back is removable since its not screwed down. I can remove an ipod back almost as easy as taking off the nexus 7's back but I also know I'm not supposed to. It sucks what they told you but crying foul is almost as bad. Luckily they are going to help you anyway

The Afroman said:
Wow. More people like you make Google users seem elitist. Yes i did unplug the battery you know that thing we as electronic users have been doing for YEARS
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Nonsense, just hold the power button for 10-15 seconds.

khaytsus said:
Nonsense, just hold the power button for 10-15 seconds.
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Tried. Multiple times. Nothing.. the screen would stay black. battery wouldn't charge. i had to unplug battery and plug back in.. to get the charger to work. even bought 2 3rd party chargers that work for nexus to get it to respond. nothing. battery had to be unplugged and plugged back in. only way to get my device to work. I guess i shouldn't have said that and lied. *sigh*

Sorry to hear this man, I'm following this thread pretty closely. I am getting a N7 here next week (Christmas, I hope), so trying to see what others issues with it are. I hope this works out for you

BRICKED my One

Had my One plugged in to the USB on my computer...unplugged it because it was plugged in to USB 3 and needed it in USB 2....brick. No rhyme or reason. No power, no bootloader, no recover, no charge, nothing. Went to Sprint, they were unable to do anything either so they're ordering me a new device. They said it wont be a refurb since its so new so that's nice.
Not really sure why I'm sharing but wanted to get the info out there just in case others may have had the same thing happen to them or just be careful if you keep your device plugged in and you unplug it from the computers USB or AC usb.
PS The way the Sprint Tech's looked over my device really worried me and worries me for the future when I'll actually have some signs of wear and tear on the device. They normally have the ability to check for water damage with the stickers on the battery and a few other locations....well that doesnt exist for the One, at least in a very accessible spot. He took my phone (looks brand new) to his manager and his manager said "I think you'll be fine to replace it." Well, if my phone has scuffs all over it, etc a hardware issue doenst automatically stem from the wear and tear but I believe that's going to be the One's "indicator" and I think some may have a serious issue getting warranty repairs done since they dont have a true way of telling signs of water damage, etc without destroying the device by taking it apart.

I must say though....this is the sexiest paperweight ever.

as someone who has worked for sprint as a repair tech I can say you shouldnt be worried. The policy goes like this when trying to qualify a device for a replacement at no cost (for those with insurance that is).
1.Screen Cracks
2. Water Damage
3. Personal hardware modification (if the tech is an ass he can call you out on custom roms etc...but we usually let this slide)
Outside of that NO sprint store should EVER deny you a replace if its a legit issue just because of some nicks or scratches. Cosmetic damage isnt part of the criteria. So if you find a store that does **** you around when you know youre in the right....find another store or call corporate because thats NOT how its supposed to work.

HaiKaiDo said:
as someone who has worked for sprint as a repair tech I can say you shouldnt be worried. The policy goes like this when trying to qualify a device for a replacement at no cost (for those with insurance that is).
1.Screen Cracks
2. Water Damage
3. Personal hardware modification (if the tech is an ass he can call you out on custom roms etc...but we usually let this slide)
Outside of that NO sprint store should EVER deny you a replace if its a legit issue just because of some nicks or scratches. Cosmetic damage isnt part of the criteria. So if you find a store that does **** you around when you know youre in the right....find another store or call corporate because thats NOT how its supposed to work.
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Thanks...so I know that on the HTC Dev website it states the generic warnings but Sprint still will not cover any issues from developing even though it appears to be widely accepted now?

Tyzing said:
Thanks...so I know that on the HTC Dev website it states the generic warnings but Sprint still will not cover any issues from developing even though it appears to be widely accepted now?
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Yeah sometimes it just depends on who the technician is as to if they are going to cut you some slack or not. The good thing is most techs really dont know anything indepth about custom roms or rooting. So if you dont say much to them you should be fine.

HaiKaiDo said:
Yeah sometimes it just depends on who the technician is as to if they are going to cut you some slack or not. The good thing is most techs really dont know anything indepth about custom roms or rooting. So if you dont say much to them you should be fine.
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This. About a week before I got my One, I had gone into my local corp store with my GNex which had an unlocked bootloader, but wasn't rooted. I was having awful signal issues, even with the free Airave that was sent to me. Two managers and finally a tech from the back looked over that phone, rebooting it several times. Each time I winced because that big white unlocked lock symbol showed up and I just was waiting for one of them to say something. The closest one was one of the managers asked if I was "jailbroken" because he didn't recognize my Beautiful Widgets weather widget. I walked out of there with a NIB GNex. (A week later I got an early upgrade and sold it back for my black One).

As a retail consultant for Sprint, I'm shocked how little our techs do know tbh. Lol. I run circles around these guys in triage.
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Skyymiles said:
As a retail consultant for Sprint, I'm shocked how little our techs do know tbh. Lol. I run circles around these guys in triage.
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I've only met one guy at the sprint store that knew anything about android. He was telling me how he got his contract terminated because he used the Verizon prl for the gnex

Skyymiles said:
As a retail consultant for Sprint, I'm shocked how little our techs do know tbh. Lol. I run circles around these guys in triage.
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Youd love my store then :]. Me and the other tech are baws lol.

Did I get lucky or is a bill coming my way?

Phone fell today. Demolished. Screen got cracked all over the place. Housing chipped. Filed an RMA with Motorola just to see what would happen. Was figuring best case scenario they charge me $175 to replace it. I've had it maybe 2 or 3 weeks.
After not even an hour I get emails back and one of them is a code to order a new one NO CHARGE.
I listed the damage as Physical>Other and gave the description: Phone fell.....screen and housing are both messed up. Doesn't power on.
Do you think this is free, or when they actually see the phone are they going to charge me? I don't even mind if it is $175 I feel stupid as **** for dropping the phone and really can't afford to buy a new one. However, I'd obviously take free too lol.

gpgorbosjr said:
Phone fell today. Demolished. Screen got cracked all over the place. Housing chipped. Filed an RMA with Motorola just to see what would happen. Was figuring best case scenario they charge me $175 to replace it. I've had it maybe 2 or 3 weeks.
After not even an hour I get emails back and one of them is a code to order a new one NO CHARGE.
I listed the damage as Physical>Other and gave the description: Phone fell.....screen and housing are both messed up. Doesn't power on.
Do you think this is free, or when they actually see the phone are they going to charge me? I don't even mind if it is $175 I feel stupid as **** for dropping the phone and really can't afford to buy a new one. However, I'd obviously take free too lol.
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Sounds like a free repair to me! lol

Only time will tell, with the recent buyout and some Moto employees likely getting laid off in the near future they may just not care. They could have also hooked you up for just being honest.
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someguyatx said:
Only time will tell, with the recent buyout and some Moto employees likely getting laid off in the near future they may just not care. They could have also hooked you up for just being honest.
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The buyout isn't even approved yet and won't be for some time. This is almost 100% not the reason.
I'm willing to bet he ends up paying as the system is most likely automated and when someone sees the physical damage they will comes looking for cash.
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Schaweet said:
The buyout isn't even approved yet and won't be for some time. This is almost 100% not the reason.
I'm willing to bet he ends up paying as the system is most likely automated and when someone sees the physical damage they will comes looking for cash.
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But the worst case scenario should be $175 right?
The message did have a name at the end of it, although I'm sure it could still have been automated and at the very least is pre-written.
If they try and charge me full price I WILL fight that lmao. $175 I'll argue a little since they said free of charge in the email but I know it was human error so I'd ultimately relent and pay it if they ask.
EDIT: I feel like if it was automated the fact that I chose Physical damage as the reason would prohibit it from sending out the free code right away. Know what I mean? If you charge $175 for physical damage why would you have the system automate a free code for an RMA filed as physical.

very good point. Maybe they are being nice
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Schaweet said:
I'm willing to bet he ends up paying as the system is most likely automated and when someone sees the physical damage they will comes looking for cash.
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This... RMAs are for returns. Once they see you're returning a busted device they'll hit you up for payment. I'm curious to know how it turns out; keep us updated.

kbluhm said:
This... RMAs are for returns. Once they see you're returning a busted device they'll hit you up for payment. I'm curious to know how it turns out; keep us updated.
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I asked for a repair. There is a separate option for merchandise return.
A return merchandise authorization (RMA) or return goods authorization (RGA) is a part of the process of returning a product in order to receive a refund, replacement, or repair during the product's warranty period.
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The logic with what I did and how their site works is really supporting that they know I damaged it and gave me the free replacement. Now it is just a waiting game to see if they change their tune.

gpgorbosjr said:
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I asked for a repair. There is a separate option for merchandise return.
The logic with what I did and how their site works is really supporting that they know I damaged it and gave me the free replacement. Now it is just a waiting game to see if they change their tune.
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They don't have to change their tune. A repair in this case is anything covered under warranty. For instance, you're just using your phone normally and one day the screen goes haywire... suddenly no external sound... cannot connect to wifi... stops charging... those sort of things. Hardware or software defects that are beyond your control.
I am sure with the volume of devices coming and going, they are not sitting there and spell checking each and every RMA that comes in. They have their own review process and for the sake of customer satisfaction they expedite the process automatically till it can be fully reviewed.
But still please keep us updated.

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They don't have to change their tune. A repair in this case is anything covered under warranty. For instance, you're just using your phone normally and one day the screen goes haywire... suddenly no external sound... cannot connect to wifi... stops charging... those sort of things. Hardware or software defects that are beyond your control.
I am sure with the volume of devices coming and going, they are not sitting there and spell checking each and every RMA that comes in. They have their own review process and for the sake of customer satisfaction they expedite the process automatically till it can be fully reviewed.
But still please keep us updated.
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As of right now I have a free replacement. So if they decide to charge me, that'd be a change of tune.
Also, they clearly state on their warranty page that they support in AND out of warranty repairs and that out of warranty repair can be applied for online, which is exactly how I did it.
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Now there is no question they can wind up trying to charge me, but they are doing everything they can to imply that isn't what they want to do.
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But anyway I'm not trying to say their system is working the right way or that I deserve a free replacement. I'm just making my own observations on the situation. I don't feel like arguing about it. Let's see what happens, but most companies don't offer free replacements, allow you to make/ship the phone THEN chase you down to pay.

gpgorbosjr said:
As of right now I have a free replacement. So if they decide to charge me, that'd be a change of tune.
Also, they clearly state on their warranty page that they support in AND out of warranty repairs and that out of warranty repair can be applied for online, which is exactly how I did it.
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Now there is no question they can wind up trying to charge me, but they are doing everything they can to imply that isn't what they want to do.
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But anyway I'm not trying to say their system is working the right way or that I deserve a free replacement. I'm just making my own observations on the situation. I don't feel like arguing about it. Let's see what happens, but most companies don't offer free replacements, allow you to make/ship the phone THEN chase you down to pay.
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The only game changer would be if you bought the $85 two-year protection plan. But you haven't brought that up so I'm left to assume you did not.
But once again, please keep us updated. That form does imply some type of flat-rate replacement service... but it says nothing about giving you a brand spanking new device.

[Q] Switch sim card from scratched note 4

So i just got my note 4 yesterday and I love it been an android user since the og droid. Anyways here's the deal. I didn't have money to get a screen protector since I didn't get paid till today. Thought I would baby the phone till I could order one from Amazon but today i scratched it by accidentally putting it in my pocket with my old phone still in there( baggy sweats so I didn't notice).
Well I preordered a note 4 but went in to another store and they had one in Stock. Just checked my email and they just shipped my preorder. Could I open the package and switch sim cards without it triggering a change in phones? It's not a terrible scratch but it's an inch long and it's driving me crazy. Thanks in advance for any help. Just switched from Verizon so I don't know how tmobile works.

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Androidfan80 said:
So i just got my note 4 yesterday and I love it been an android user since the og droid. Anyways here's the deal. I didn't have money to get a screen protector since I didn't get paid till today. Thought I would baby the phone till I could order one from Amazon but today i scratched it by accidentally putting it in my pocket with my old phone still in there( baggy sweats so I didn't notice).
Well I preordered a note 4 but went in to another store and they had one in Stock. Just checked my email and they just shipped my preorder. Could I open the package and switch sim cards without it triggering a change in phones? It's not a terrible scratch but it's an inch long and it's driving me crazy. Thanks in advance for any help. Just switched from Verizon so I don't know how tmobile works.
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All the phones have embedded IMEI code numbers in the phone itself as well
as on the bar code label and that's the very first thing Verizon or or any other
carrier checks when you turn in a phone or return a phone for any reason.
If the IMEI number is different than what they expect it to be you will get
yourself in a lot of trouble, they will either not refund your money or bill
you for the full price of the phone if it hasn't been fully paid off already.
There is no way to change or alter the IMEI number.
Good luck!

hmm please clarify if I'm wrong but you want to swap your scratched phone and put the scratched phone in the new Note 4's box and return it. Am I correct?

rookiegenius said:
hmm please clarify if I'm wrong but you want to swap your scratched phone and put the scratched phone in the new Note 4's box and return it. Am I correct?
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As bad as it sounds yes I'm trying to do that. I sort of feel justified to do that because when opening the account they ported my number to my wife's phone and i had no cell service.
I heard if i put a screen protector on it itmight hide the scratch a little bit but it's killing me that my 2 day old phone has a big scratch on it.

Ouch, you're just begging for an onslaught of hostile replies, aren't you?
Here's the thing, you can't switch boxes, you can't switch phones in boxes, you can't switch IMEI's, and you're probably not going to be able to return a phone with a scratched screen, but ethics aside, there's always a very slim chance if the rep is distracted. You could always try faking Tourette Syndrome if you're really that desperate, but it seems like a lot of work for the slim chance of a relatively small payoff.
The screen protector they will almost for sure take off before scanning the phone in, but that idea did make me lol (thanks for that). You might have to live with it or hope that it isn't too noticeable with the protector on and use it that way. Don't mess with switching phones though if you want to avoid embarrassment in the store.

kgbeezr1 said:
Ouch, you're just begging for an onslaught of hostile replies, aren't you?
Here's the thing, you can't switch boxes, you can't switch phones in boxes, you can't switch IMEI's, and you're probably not going to be able to return a phone with a scratched screen, but ethics aside, there's always a very slim chance if the rep is distracted. You could always try faking Tourette Syndrome if you're really that desperate, but it seems like a lot of work for the slim chance of a relatively small payoff.
The screen protector they will almost for sure take off before scanning the phone in, but that idea did make me lol (thanks for that). You might have to live with it or hope that it isn't too noticeable with the protector on and use it that way. Don't mess with switching phones though if you want to avoid embarrassment in the store.
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Glad i was able to make you laugh lol. I was wondering about the screen protector for myself not to notice, not tmobile since it looks like i have to live with the scratch. I think i notice it more because I'm looking at every pixel of that beautiful screen. Too bad i didn't sign up for jump so i can trade it in for the note 5.

Ok here's my last resort before I'm stuck with it lol. Wonder if i can return it before the 14 day grace period is up and just get the nexus 6 when it comes out. Has anyone done this successfully before? I know I'll have to pay a $50 restocking fee.

Androidfan80 said:
Glad i was able to make you laugh lol. I was wondering about the screen protector for myself not to notice, not tmobile since it looks like i have to live with the scratch. I think i notice it more because I'm looking at every pixel of that beautiful screen. Too bad i didn't sign up for jump so i can trade it in for the note 5.
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Ohh, ok.
Androidfan80 said:
Ok here's my last resort before I'm stuck with it lol. Wonder if i can return it before the 14 day grace period is up and just get the nexus 6 when it comes out. Has anyone done this successfully before? I know I'll have to pay a $50 restocking fee.
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The issue isn't returning and waiting for the Nexus, you can always do that, the issue is trying to return a phone with a scratch on the screen. The re-stock fee is just for opening the package, it doesn't cover damage. So really, the best answer you're going to get is either try to sell it on eBay - if there's no financing on the phone you could likely get close to what you paid, especially if you're willing to sell internationally, or, just take it back into the T-Mobile store and hope they don't notice. If you're really that determined and they refuse it, try taking it to other stores. It's not really ethical advice, but that's really your only option. Personally I would be way too mortified at the idea that i'm going to walk in, look the rep in the eye and expect him/her to take the phone with the scratch, it would look pretty shady. I would just sell it on eBay. But obviously it's up to you.

you scratched it, you own it...coming here asking for ways to pull a fast one isn't welcome, nor wanted...

Well, as entertaining as it would be to watch the onslaught here, this thread is going to be closed before it gets out of hand.
That being said, what you are wanting to do is not only immoral, but also illegal and unethical. No matter what screw ups you had to endure when they swapped your devices there is no justification for what you are attempting. This is equivalent to buying a new car, wrecking it, and returning it to the lot claiming this is how you received it.
You damaged the device, intentionally or not, and you must deal with the consequences of that action. Your carrier can hold you liable for the cost of both devices, in full, if you actually attempted to pursue this, not to mention having legal grounds to get you for fraud.
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Google warranty on a defective device?

Hey guys i bought my N6 in mid December if im not mistaken and lately i have been having issues with the screen where half of it freezes and cant be used.what i am wondering is am i screwed here with a faulty unit or should i still be able to get a replacement from google since its been like two months now.I have no idea how their warranty works which is why i ask to see if anybody can chime in on this.thanks for any help.

oOuzzielOo said:
Hey guys i bought my N6 in mid December if im not mistaken and lately i have been having issues with the screen where half of it freezes and cant be used.what i am wondering is am i screwed here with a faulty unit or should i still be able to get a replacement from google since its been like two months now.I have no idea how their warranty works which is why i ask to see if anybody can chime in on this.thanks for any help.
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I think you should contact Google's customer assistant for it. As far as I know Google provide a Free Replacement of the device within a year except any physical damage. I might wrong but nothing harms to give it a try And best of luck in replacing your device

Correct except they will replace for any reason in first year, including water or physical damage.

Thanks for the replys guys,i already got in touch with them and they made the ticket and everything but i am pretty much screwed anyway cause they put a temporary hold on funds in my account for the new device they send me until they receive the defective one.And i dont have the moneybfor it right now so preety much a wasted rma ticket.i will try and see if they let me send them the defective one first and then they send me the new one,so the whole funds freezing can be avoided.I hope they allow it.

crowbarman said:
Correct except they will replace for any reason in first year, including water or physical damage.
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Really?!
Wow, glad I didn't get it from MOT.
Then again I've yet to dunk or shatter a phone.
(My desk here is Mahogany, knocking away, so no worries!)

cpufrost said:
Really?!
Wow, glad I didn't get it from MOT.
Then again I've yet to dunk or shatter a phone.
(My desk here is Mahogany, knocking away, so no worries!)
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I hope you're knocking with your fist and not your phone

rootSU said:
I hope you're knocking with your fist and not your phone
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Yes of course!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb5dEtNIKZk

cpufrost said:
Really?!
Wow, glad I didn't get it from MOT.
Then again I've yet to dunk or shatter a phone.
(My desk here is Mahogany, knocking away, so no worries!)
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It's not advertised, but yeah, that's supposedly been the trend. I've heard it's limited to 1 device. It's something they did with the Nexus 5 as well.
http://bgr.com/2014/12/03/nexus-6-free-replacement-program/