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Originally Sold on July 15, 2012 - http://bgr.com/2012/07/10/motorola-atrix-hd-release-date-pricing-att/
Discontinued on August 1st, 2013 - http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/motorola/atrix-hd-modern-white.html#fbid=1jrbRFjGCCb
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/MOTOROLA-ATRIX-HD/MB886-ATRIX-HD,en_US,pd.html
This device lasted just over a year before losing OTA support and being discontinued. How can we expect anything good to come of the Moto X after being screwed over like this on their AT&T Flagship device from last year? Stuck on 4.1.1 and severely insecure software. Such a shame.
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Originally Sold on July 15, 2012 - http://bgr.com/2012/07/10/motorola-atrix-hd-release-date-pricing-att/
Discontinued on August 1st, 2013 - http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/motorola/atrix-hd-modern-white.html#fbid=1jrbRFjGCCb
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/MOTOROLA-ATRIX-HD/MB886-ATRIX-HD,en_US,pd.html
This device lasted just over a year before losing OTA support and being discontinued. How can we expect anything good to come of the Moto X after being screwed over like this on their AT&T Flagship device from last year? Stuck on 4.1.1 and severely insecure software. Such a shame.
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It's to be expected. Motorola wants every Motorola fanboy to purchase the Moto X. Because they figure if they continue to update the HD to 4.2, then a lot of people wouldn't have the incentive to upgrade, because they'll have the features of the Moto X on an old flagship phone.
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I'm surprised it lasted that long. They never took advantage of the potential it had and has.
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Is it for sure we won't get moto x software update? Let's have a mustard seed of faith here guys
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Coincidentally, it has officially become part of cyanogenmod, along with the rest of the MSM8960 family:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Mb886_Info
I'm not really that surprised at this. Hate to say it, but X isn't anything special. I watched the Moto Maker video showing the customizations and its nothing more than colors, a boot logo, and storage size. Looking at the specs, all the new Moto Phones are the same other than screen size and available memory. Atrix HD might be a year older, but its almost the same phone as these. They have more ram and better on board graphics -- I just don't know if that justifies losing my SD card.
The new X makes me sad. I was expecting something a bit more than an updated Atrix\RAZR HD. I think we're better off just getting the Maxx Battery over the new X or Droid Series Phones. The NO SD CARD AT ALL is why I won't be getting one.
I lol'd at the prices. Maxx is $100 more, has 32GB over the Ultra's 16GB and a bigger battery -- that's it and somehow that justifies a $100 price increase. Now I'm wondering if we'll see X/Droid Maxx mod posts because of that.
This news sucks but looking from a different perspective, all flagship phones only last for 1 year: S3 from Samsung, Xperia S from Sony, and OneX from HTC. In the current situation where all the old flagship phones are strong enough to run smoothly Android 4.3 or even 5, if they continue to update the phone with newer software version, no one would buy the new flagship phones.
Great, I doubt I will be able to sell my Atrix HD now.
This is really sick,
I did not expect Moto to leave us before 4.2.2 update...
@skeevydude true that, even I was expecting a lot more from Moto-X but it didn't came up through.... I though we will be able to customize it in sense of ram,screen,battery,processory... but its very unlikely to customize jus the uppershell :/
Meanwhile its good to see official CM support.
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I'm not really that surprised at this. Hate to say it, but X isn't anything special. I watched the Moto Maker video showing the customizations and its nothing more than colors, a boot logo, and storage size. Looking at the specs, all the new Moto Phones are the same other than screen size and available memory. Atrix HD might be a year older, but its almost the same phone as these. They have more ram and better on board graphics -- I just don't know if that justifies losing my SD card.
The new X makes me sad. I was expecting something a bit more than an updated Atrix\RAZR HD. I think we're better off just getting the Maxx Battery over the new X or Droid Series Phones. The NO SD CARD AT ALL is why I won't be getting one.
I lol'd at the prices. Maxx is $100 more, has 32GB over the Ultra's 16GB and a bigger battery -- that's it and somehow that justifies a $100 price increase. Now I'm wondering if we'll see X/Droid Maxx mod posts because of that.
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I was reading that Google is trying to push to have SD cards removed. Something about trying to increase the speed of boot time.
Although, I would guess its so they can sell you a 32gb phone for $75 more than the 16gb version.
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This is really sick,
I did not expect Moto to leave us before 4.2.2 update...
@skeevydude true that, even I was expecting a lot more from Moto-X but it didn't came up through.... I though we will be able to customize it in sense of ram,screen,battery,processory... but its very unlikely to customize jus the uppershell :/
Meanwhile its good to see official CM support.
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My assumption was we'd get 4.2.2 as our last update and the new phones coming out would be 4.3. Wonder if we're not getting 4.2.2 to screw with the Dev Team
The customizations they offer for the X I can do myself. I have multiple paint sprayers, Dremmels, and an engraving tool -- not everyone has that, but we all have access to spray paint made for whatever material needs spraying.
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I was reading that Google is trying to push to have SD cards removed. Something about trying to increase the speed of boot time.
Although, I would guess its so they can sell you a 32gb phone for $75 more than the 16gb version.
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I'll buy boot time....but I've always figured it was because the sd card can be a pita from a rom management perspective -- will it be used as swap, sd-ext, like normal with music and such, internal/external hacks, and so on. Because of that, I assume Google wants us to use mini-usb flash drives. Whatever the reason is ($$$ for the upgraded storage model), I like my sd card for my phone -- don't always have access to the net to stream or can because of data plan limitations/caps/quotas.
Has anyone else noticed that the X and new Droids have the same specs as the new Nexus 7.2 Tablet?
I think once a device is "dead" or at least out of warranty, the manufactures should be required to allow you to unlock them. ( I realize we are unlocked now) but my older Droid X and X2 are still locked.
yeah, SD cards are kinda deal breaker for me, I am assuming its going to get harder and harder to get a phone with one.
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This news sucks but looking from a different perspective, all flagship phones only last for 1 year: S3 from Samsung, Xperia S from Sony, and OneX from HTC. In the current situation where all the old flagship phones are strong enough to run smoothly Android 4.3 or even 5, if they continue to update the phone with newer software version, no one would buy the new flagship phones.
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I know at least Samsung is good about updating their phones. They just updated the S2 Plus to 4.2.2 and according to what I've read they're skipping 4.2.2 for the S3 and Note II and going straight to 4.3. Sony is hit or miss and HTC is just plain bad. How long did it take the thunderbolt to get the promised ICS update? 18 months?
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My assumption was we'd get 4.2.2 as our last update and the new phones coming out would be 4.3. Wonder if we're not getting 4.2.2 to screw with the Dev Team
The customizations they offer for the X I can do myself. I have multiple paint sprayers, Dremmels, and an engraving tool -- not everyone has that, but we all have access to spray paint made for whatever material needs spraying.
I'll buy boot time....but I've always figured it was because the sd card can be a pita from a rom management perspective -- will it be used as swap, sd-ext, like normal with music and such, internal/external hacks, and so on. Because of that, I assume Google wants us to use mini-usb flash drives. Whatever the reason is ($$$ for the upgraded storage model), I like my sd card for my phone -- don't always have access to the net to stream or can because of data plan limitations/caps/quotas.
Has anyone else noticed that the X and new Droids have the same specs as the new Nexus 7.2 Tablet?
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They want you to use cloud services.
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I think once a device is "dead" or at least out of warranty, the manufactures should be required to allow you to unlock them. ( I realize we are unlocked now) but my older Droid X and X2 are still locked.
yeah, SD cards are kinda deal breaker for me, I am assuming its going to get harder and harder to get a phone with one.
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Where would you go with a unlocked CDMA phone and a Verizon one at that? What carrier would activate it?
This really sucks big time... I guess I made the right decision yesterday when a guy offered me a mint nexus 4 for 200... I looked at my sweet sexy white and black Atrix and said sorry baby 4.3 is already ready already... Plus I had a n4 when they first came out only for a week when I lost at strip club... Sucks to loose my SD card but 16gb internal makes up... Sucks to loose lte tmo is blazing in south Florida but I get partial lte with a mod they found... Plus development, well its a nexus that speaks for itself... Ahd is great and in keeping for a lil as backup but I also have atrix 4g with webtop... So I'm going to hold to ahd for a lil but I missed the nexus... And to me screen is much better and pictures come out nicer... Skeevy Timpo youngunn epinter you are all the **** and without all of you a great phone would have no glory... It was fun...
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as for sd cards, i have no problem with them being eliminated as long as they get rid of low storage option devices. like 8 gb... ridiculous. make it 32, 64 gb for storage options. that more than enough and simple, no sd cards needed.
as for the dead device, i thought we would at least get 4.2, but we will just use the firmware from the moto x. same thing with some hackery we can use it. not surprising though. next phone will probably be an Oppo or Sammy.
How do we know Motorola has discontinued OTA support?
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This phone may be discontinued but it sure isn't dead thanks to all the great developers!!! I was told at att the other day this is discontinued cause the atrix HD 2 was coming out. Probably an Atrix HD maxx
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How do we know Motorola has discontinued OTA support?
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We haven't even seen an exploit patch since November 2012, while the RAZR HD/RAZR M have received at least 2 updates since then, upgrading them to 4.1.2 and patching potentially hamrful exploits. You have to work quite hard to find this phone on AT&T and Motorola's websites, they won't spend time to update it IMO.
With Motorola announcing the Moto G the other day, the low price of that phone and the power it has makes it an interesting option. For $200 USD you get a 1.2ghz quad core, 16GB nand, adreno 302 graphics, 1gb of ram, unlocked sim, unlocked bootloader, and guaranteed kitkat from Motorola. Other than the lack of hdmi and sdcard, that's a really good value. See here for the full specs. To deal with the 16gb nand, just get a micro usb thumb drive for music and movies, they cost between $30-$70 for a decent sized one, and 16GB should be enough to cover most users other than gamers...gamers'll probably want to be on a better phone anyways.
A really big plus in my opinion is the G's OS wiil be pure AOSP other than 2 Motorola apps designed to migrate your settings and apps over to the G.....less technical users like my Mother actually use and like them so I see those as a good thing. When your Mom can take her first Android phone, the Atrix HD, plug it up to her laptop and get it all set up and running to her liking relatively hassle free, then Motorola did something right.
G also comes with 50GB of Google Drive storage free for 2 years....not sure if that's a plus or a minus since you'll have to pay for the Google Drive storage eventually....I also have 190GB of free Copy.com storage thanks to all of you so I laugh at the G's 50GB free .
The G obviously has some downsides because it is a budget phone. For one, it doesn't have 4G/LTE, it doesn't have the Active Notifications its big brother X has, no hdmi port, & no sdcard slot.
I'm normally really against phones without the sdcard option, but for the price, the Moto G is hard to hate on; especially when otg thumb drives are as cheap as they are.
My only curiosity with the G is if usb-to-hdmi works with it. If it doesn't it isn't a deal breaker, but it would be nice to be able to hook it up to a bigger screen for watching movies or playing games.
There's a really good chance I'll pick one of these up on launch. If anything to show Motorola that if they make a good, fully unlocked phone at a good price that we will buy it.
//If the X developer edition wasn't so ugly* and wasn't priced so high I'd say things like this post about it. Drop the X Dev Edition to $350 and add it to Moto Maker (even if it costs an extra $50) and I'd consider it. For $550, the X Dev isn't worth the $$$ for a slightly faster processor, active display, and touchless controls; and I bet ya the G can probably port over the X's touchless controls, if not more.
*I'm not a fan of white phones, looks or for practicality. My hands get dirty when I work and I'll have a white phone smudged black in less than a week.
I'm really looking forward to the new phone block phone. Especially since Motorola is working with them now.
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Moto and block phone.....that makes things very interesting. I'd love the option to make me a brick phone. Thin phones are OK and all, but I'd rather have a 5" brick with a good battery, keyboard, and expandable storage (and a micro hdmi/usb configuration like the we currently have).
Still, name a better phone for under $250 brand new that's better than the Moto G. I say $250 because I'm including the cost of a micro usb thumb drive. When you can get a good phone + accessories for under $300, someone's doing something right. Kudos Motorola.
I agree still a really good deal.
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It's good deal but still I would choose Atrix HD over it. I think now prices should be more or less the same on ebay.
Yeah great phone for a great price I definitely plan on getting one as soon as there out and ending this ridiculously expensive att contact! Pure android with kit Kat is great!
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I can get behind the AHD ebay/G new similar pricing, but a lot of you aren't thinking about this in the right way -- this is a Motorola WORLD RELEASED PHONE with an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER in a price range almost everybody can afford. There won't be any rom, mod, tweak, or customization that this phone won't have, which is a value you can't put a price on and, I believe, gives this the edge over the Atrix HD.
The G is essentially a Motorola made Nexus 4.5.
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I can get behind the AHD ebay/G new similar pricing, but a lot of you aren't thinking about this in the right way -- this is a Motorola WORLD RELEASED PHONE with an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER in a price range almost everybody can afford. There won't be any rom, mod, tweak, or customization that this phone won't have, which is a value you can't put a price on and, I believe, gives this the edge over the Atrix HD.
The G is essentially a Motorola made Nexus 4.5.
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I agree completely. Hell at this price I will buy one just to sit on the back burner. Hell, who am I kidding, "just to play around with" is how that was supposed to read lol.
I would have spent a little bit more to get 2gb of ram, and then it would rival just about anything on the market. That and the lack of SD card support are the only two turn offs for me. I just don't know if 16gb of storage will be enough. I haven't ever seen one so correct me if there is, but I wish that there were tiny little OTG flash drive that could plug into the USB and just sit there, a little bump on the outside, kind of like those tiny usb drives and wireless mouse recievers that they make for laptops. Where it's just a plug and not much more volume to it. It would be a hassle to unplug it to charge the phone, but no more than the hassle of carrying around a jump drive and an OTG cable.
Though, like you said, this is huge. An unlocked moto phone with very decent specs that will have pretty much every rom ever known to man? Gimme two.
As for no LTE, meh. Who cares. Once you reach a certain point, internet speed gets to be a moot argument IMO. Especially mobile internet. Who's gonna be downloading huge files that would need that kind of internet on a phone? 21 mbps is good enough for me. To put it to terms, at that speed you could fill up the entire phone's memory in a matter of a few hours. Or to put it another way, you could burn through an entire month's worth of data on a standard data plan in a couple of hours. So at that point who cares? Nobody uses that much speed on a phone. Your facebook page can only load so fast.
what you do with a quad no hdmi port?????
can be connected to tv trough mini usb port?????
also no lte speed on the road is a big no for me
at least able to get 4g???
definly if you can connect to tv and get 4g speed
is going to be my new toy.....
other i stick with my atrixhd....with kitkat is like a new phone!!!!!!!
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That's true. I didn't think that way.
Can't wait to see if it will be officially available in my little european contry. I haven't seen any motorola phones avilable officialy in stores for a while. If so, that would be really great.
I really like the sounds of this phone. Prior to the AHD, I hadn't purchased a phone on contract for 4-5 years, I like to buy and not hassle with ehte 2-year agreement. However, lack of 4g/LTE is a bummer with this one.
I don't think the lack of 4G/LTE is that big of a deal, especially since 3G is faster than my home cable internet anyways. For me, 4G is just a way for me to hit my data caps even faster and 4G speeds won't really matter to me until Big Cellular allows more than 2gb a month before I hit said cap -- I can live with getting push notifications of GMail at 3G speeds.... Ya also gotta realize that this is a world phone and 4G is mainly for Americans and major metropolitan areas outside of the US.
There's something seriously f'd up with these companies being allowed to give us the ability to use a month's bandwidth in less than 5 hours.
Realistically, the data cap should be 2gb a day with 3 dollars a gigabyte after that. That's enough to watch a movie, check emails, update apps.
Can't even sync an android repo without hitting the cap.....
Can't tether to a PC without being charged $20 a month...only gives an extra 2gb of data....I'd rather root, rom, and risk the $10 a gb overage charge...works out the same on my end $$$ wise.
Can't think of a fifth line to add....crap, just missed 420 and I just reuped.
Same reason im on prepaid T-Mobile. Lol True i pay $70 a month but i don't have to worry about data as i have wasted last month about 50gb in a month on LTE. My laptop is very happy with this plan as well. Lol
That's why I'm going to aio once my contract is up.
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This might be the only phone to get me away from my Atrix. I love the shells and form factor. I can't use giant screens either and anywhere from a 4.5 to a 4.7 inch screen are perfect for me.
The only thing I don't like in moto g is that it's a lot thicker than atrix hd
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Moto G is a budget phone for 200 dolar that i am not interested in. If they need power users, they have to deliver powerful phones. All in all, even if it has neat specs, at the end of the day a 200$ smartphone is worth 200$. You will not find fine details in it but I can buy it for my sister,mother or father which is the purpose and reason for its market availability.
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Moto g's are in sale now!! They start shipping 12/2. Getting one real soon
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Moto g's are in sale now!! They start shipping 12/2. Getting one real soon
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Me too. Glad they changed the release date....Releasing this AFTER Christmas would just be stupid.
Yes I was pretty surprised to see it was available already. My ass is getting out of my expensive att contact and getting the moto g. Feeling really good about this phone. Doesn't even bother me there's no 4g. The only thing I'll miss is being able to hook up to my TV via micro HDMI.
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So I currently own a S4 on Verizon. I've been wanting the X and my dad said he'd buy my S4 and I found someone with a brand new Moto X 16 gb for $300. I really love the design, nexus like look, and special features of the X. I've played with one at best buy an it is really fast. I'm just worried about a new one coming out soon. I know there will always be new technology but since this has been out for a few months, I'm skeptical. Also the 16gb worries me. I think I've read you're left with 11gb new. I just feel I'm going backwards lol
So I figured I'd ask the users of Moto Xs and see what you guys think. Not really asking if its better than the S4, just if its smart or not to get one at this point. It actually won't cost me anything an I'd actually make some money from selling my dads current S3.
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The trend for Apple and Samsung has been to release a new phone every year (so we should officially hear about the Galaxy S5 in March)
Considering the Moto X hit USA Carrier shelves starting in the tail end of August, if Moto follows that "new release every year" trend, then you're not even halfway through the X's shelf life yet. (only about 4 months of 12).
So if you're just worried about "timing" and you like the phone, then get it... otherwise consider....
Coming from a Galaxy S4, consider the smaller screen. Can your eyes adjust? Non-Removable battery (but the X has better life than my VZW GS4), Camera differences (at first GS4 was noticeably better, but with the recent updates, the X's camera matches the GS4's outdoor and good light abilities, it still lags in low light a little), no removable memory slot (so your MP3's, pix, videos have to take up space in the X's main memory).
Out of the box, a 16gig demo X I had for a while had more memory/storage available than my 16gig GS4 (11gig vs 9). I would still opt for the 32gig model X due to lack of removable Micro-SD slot if you want to keep stuff locally on your phone. That being said, I have friends who got 16gig models, haven't filled them up, and are perfectly happy. Me, I have 7 gig of music on my phone and take lots of pictures of my son (who just turned 5).
The X is my daily driver. I get phones free for my job and for a while via the VCC (don't ask) for personal use. (full list of my phones is -> HERE) The X was the first phone *I purchased* since I got my Moto E815 back in 2006. After using a carrier supplied 16gig Demo X for two months, I purchased the Dev Edition X for Verizon (full price) in early November, and its been my daily driver since. If you look at my phone list, and consider an X (first the demo and now my Dev X) has been on my personal line since early September when I originally got the demo X, you should get an idea of how much I like this phone.
I lived with a 16gb Nexus 4 for a year and unless you have a large music collection, keep many movies on your device or download many 1gb+ games then you will be fine with 16gb. I hovered around 5gb left while keeping one or two full backups as I was flashing roms alot on the N4, that said I was deleting stuff on a regular basis to keep memory free.
If you plan on rooting I would personally recommend the Developer Edition, unlocking and gaining root is very simple and you retain your full Motorola warranty even after unlocking. It is also 32gb, selling the S3 & S4 you should be close to it not costing you anything.
Thank you guys a lot. Very nice info. Yeah, timing is a good reason I was hesitant to pull the trigger. But knowing its still not half way through is nice to know.
Smaller screen, I believe I can adjust. I didn't have any issues when I played with it in best buy. Now I'm sure I'll realize it more as I use it more but I think it'll be okay. Its more knowing I'm going from 1080p to 720, but I know its not a huge difference an really only noticeable if you set the devices next to one another. I don't store anything on my phone. All music is through Google music. Though I keep a couple playlists of about 100 songs each stored on phone through Google music, but not a huge deal since I have unlimited data. I also never change out batteries so the removal one isn't a deal breaker.
Lastly I Dont bother rooting my phones anymore cause I always end up tinkering too much lol so I just want a solid, fast device. I'm just tired of Samsung's slow UI cover. Plus I hear so much praise on the X with its features that I want to try. Just worry downgrading in specs but I know performance is just as good as the S4. Main thing is the screen I guess.
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The colors on the Moto X are better imo as well as many other people then the S4. As far as specs just remember this might be the first time the software and hardware have been trully optimized for Android, when that's done there is no need to use more processor cores just like Apple has been doing with I-phones.
I have been a flashing junkie since I bought an original Droid, I rooted my Dev Edition for the main purpose of using Titanium Backup for games and apps in case there is a bad update in the Play Store. I found using Xposed with the Gravity Box module gave me practically every option I usually looked for in a rom while using the stock software, I have since flashed all my families devices back to stock and use Gravity Box.
I don't think you have to worry about Moto releasing a new phone until late summer/fall, they know that style of releasing phones every few months doesn't work for them as it does for Samsung. Producing quality handsets and supporting them with very fast updates is winning Motorola new/past customers and the way they are treating the Android community is something that the other OEM's should strive to emulate.
Yeah the internal specs Dont bother me much because the I know the performance is still top notch. Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7". But I think itd be nice to be able to use my phone again with one hand lol my S4 I can do most things one handed but there are still definitely instances where I need two.
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Yeah the internal specs Dont bother me much because the I know the performance is still top notch. Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7". But I think itd be nice to be able to use my phone again with one hand lol my S4 I can do most things one handed but there are still definitely instances where I need two.
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If you decide to buy, I have a way to knock $50 off for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617346
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If you decide to buy, I have a way to knock $50 off for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617346
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Thank you so much but I'd be buying it from someone off Craigslist for $300, brand new in package. But I appreciate the offer.
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I don't see how the Moto x2 could be much better. LOL
Plus it'll cost way more.
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Absolutely. The X is the first phone I don't really care what the internal specs are or feel compelled to switch to CM or any other roms. I love it.
S3 ->Note 2 -> s4 -> HTC one -> nexus 4 -> moto x
My point is I've slowly downgraded the spec sheet and have no regrets. Comparing apples to apples. Every device listed was running AOSP/AOKP/CM and the last 2 phones have been by far the smoothest even though on paper they don't quite stack up to the others. Battery life is above average but not great in my opinion but the ergonomics of this phone is one of the best I've had in a long time
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Best phone I've ever owned. It's so fast and fluid even with the "inferior" specs. Not only that, but coming from a Droid DNA with its 1080p screen, I prefer the Moto X screen with the much nicer colors and I can't even tell the difference in resolution.
Get the Moto X.
Putting in my 2 cents,
I have had a Galaxy note 2 with a 5.5in screen for the past year. I love the phone, mostly due to the amazing battery life and the large screen.
I bought my wife a Moto X last week. I have since rooted it, and have been tinkering with it. I gotta say, I want one. I don't really mind the difference in screen size that much. Battery life is just as good, if not better (remains to be further tested). Always on voice controls are super cool. And you have kitkat.
I wouldn't pay attention to the so called "specs". Yeah it's a dual core compared to my quad core Note 2, but in reality it is just as snappy (if not snappier)
Plus, my Note 2's compass sensor has always been dysfunctional. It never was steady, just jumps around. When I saw Windy Day and how flawlessly it worked with the built-in sensors, I was blown away.
I think Motorola is on the right path. With the recently lowered prices, near stock experience and the unlocked developer edition (on Verizon, which I still can't believe those bastards allowed it) Moto X is an awesome phone with great value. I especially like that Moto is going for improving the overall experience rather than getting into a pissing contest over specs.
I hate, really *HATE* Verizon, but let's face it, they have the best LTE network and I still happen to have unlimited data. I especially hate their practice of not letting anybody else sell devices that are compatible with Verizon's network (ie. Nexus 7). I hate the fact that I can't simply buy a cheap new phone from the manufacturer, but instead have to buy them from Verizon or their approved vendors like BestBuy for much more than what they would cost direct from the manufacturer.
I honestly can't believe that Motorola was able to price the Moto X at $399 with no contract on Verizon. Verizon likes to say that the phones actually cost $700 but you're getting a $400 discount when you sign a contract and pay $300 for the phone, when in reality, the phone would cost $400 and you're only getting a hundred bucks for signing the contract. Kudos to Moto. I hope it sets the stage for other manufacturers
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Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7".,
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Coming from a Note 2, the adjustment wasn't difficult at all. The only thing I miss is multi-window.
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Coming from a Note 2, the adjustment wasn't difficult at all. The only thing I miss is multi-window.
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Verizon has the moto x for 50 bucks right now with a 2 year contract. I just bought one for my son. My wife and I both have the DE phones I paid 450 each on motorola.com...I have unlimited on both. Best phone I have ever owned hands down.
Well my original offer fell through but I'm suppose to be getting a 32gb version tomorrow for $350. So fingers crossed!
I never use multiwindow on my S4 so won't miss that. And the IR blaster, very cool but I only use when screwing around with friends TVs lol I think in the end, the moto x has more useful extras than the galaxy devices.
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Yeah true. Well since I'm gonna get a 32gb version, I should be set.
I just hope this phone doesn't show its age too soon. Just read an artical comparing the nexus 5 and X. Talking about the X showing its age quicker. Which is obvious since the nexus 5 has upgraded processor, etc. But just hoping I don't slow downs in speed and use in a year from now.
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This phone is hands-down the best that I've ever used. Not only in performance, but features too.
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Yeah true. Well since I'm gonna get a 32gb version, I should be set.
I just hope this phone doesn't show its age too soon. Just read an artical comparing the nexus 5 and X. Talking about the X showing its age quicker. Which is obvious since the nexus 5 has upgraded processor, etc. But just hoping I don't slow downs in speed and use in a year from now.
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If you have the mindset about not getting a phone because its going to be outdated or not the newest, shiniest in a year your never going to get a phone!!!
The phone cycle is practically six months or so.
To be honest, phones are hitting their critical ass point ad far as specs go. When all these reviews talk about this phone is faster than that one they're talking millisecond at this point.
Find a phone that you like size wise, screen looks good to you and just buy it.
If you don't ur always gonna be waiting for the next new thing.
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Hey!
So I'm going be getting a phone on Verizon. Do you think (at this point, 10 months old) it's a good idea to go with the Moto X?
How is development for Moto X? I'm not interested in CM or most custom ROMS. Just when Moto stops updating officially, I'd like to have a stock ROM. That's all.
Also, how do you think the SAMOLED screen will manage as Android is getting whiter and lighter than before? I've heard that amoled screens are good with blacks, but there aren't many anymore with Android.
Lastly, are there any issues or differences with the Verizon one? I'm not sure if I should go with a plan, or unlocked!
Thanks,
Most people would always recommend the Dev. edition because its already unlocked.. But if ur not doing anything (Roms etc) there's not really a point... I love my x bit as far as the samoled screed goes I don't know..as far as being 10 months old.. Its done well. In my opinion..but regardless how its doing...its interesting t see what other ppl think since lenovo bought moto from google ..
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I really like my Moto X. I'm happy I went with it over any other phone last year. For me it has the best features. The Active Display and Touchless controls are fantastic.
I have the Developer Edition and run Moto Stock based ROMs. Eclipse and Krypotnite. All Motorola features work on them plus there's two, going to be three stock kernels soon.
Battery life is great.
With that being said, if you don't need a phone at this time I'd wait to see what's coming. The Moto X+1.
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Hey!
So I'm going be getting a phone on Verizon. Do you think (at this point, 10 months old) it's a good idea to go with the Moto X?
How is development for Moto X? I'm not interested in CM or most custom ROMS. Just when Moto stops updating officially, I'd like to have a stock ROM. That's all.
Also, how do you think the SAMOLED screen will manage as Android is getting whiter and lighter than before? I've heard that amoled screens are good with blacks, but there aren't many anymore with Android.
Lastly, are there any issues or differences with the Verizon one? I'm not sure if I should go with a plan, or unlocked!
Thanks,
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I just ordered 2 Moto X phones from Motorola to use on Verizon. I hope I am happy. There is coupon code that is easy to find. It is good for a couple more days. The 16 gig is $299 and the 32 gig is $324. I am going to go with prepaid. You get unlimited call and text and 500 mg of data for $45 a month when you bring your own phone. It says if you let them deduct the money from your checking you get 1 gig for the $45.You can buy more data.
It works for me.
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Hey!
So I'm going be getting a phone on Verizon. Do you think (at this point, 10 months old) it's a good idea to go with the Moto X?
How is development for Moto X? I'm not interested in CM or most custom ROMS. Just when Moto stops updating officially, I'd like to have a stock ROM. That's all.
Also, how do you think the SAMOLED screen will manage as Android is getting whiter and lighter than before? I've heard that amoled screens are good with blacks, but there aren't many anymore with Android.
Lastly, are there any issues or differences with the Verizon one? I'm not sure if I should go with a plan, or unlocked!
Thanks,
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The X is still a nice device.
Going with Verizon, I would only ever consider getting the Developer Edition X for Verizon. Why? Beacause you can unlock the bootloader to root and disable write protection. Unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty. After unlocking the bootloader you can also flash custom or 3rd party roms.
The regular Moto Maker and "retail" Verizon X can not have their bootloaders unlocked (unless the Chinese Middleman can come through for you, which is not as reliable lately and voids your warranty). This means you can't root, can't disable write protection, and can not install anything but the factory roms. So you are STUCK with how your phone is out of the box. If Moto/VZW stop pushing updates for the X you are stuck.
Don't get me wrong, a stock X is a nice device, and will work great. But you mentioned when moto stops officially updating, which implies you want the ability to flash something later (which is only possible with an unlocked bootloader)
I like my X, I've recommended it to friends and family. Its the right size. Snappy. Responsive. The only real draw back is no SD card (I would mostly use for media), and the camera is still a little lacking for me. Light needs to be "just right" to get an awesome picture.
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I just ordered 2 Moto X phones from Motorola to use on Verizon. I hope I am happy. There is coupon code that is easy to find. It is good for a couple more days. The 16 gig is $299 and the 32 gig is $324. I am going to go with prepaid. You get unlimited call and text and 500 mg of data for $45 a month when you bring your own phone. It says if you let them deduct the money from your checking you get 1 gig for the $45.You can buy more data.
It works for me.
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500mb?! I'd blow that in a day...maybe two... But glad to hear ur giving it a try!
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I have a verizon DE phone....the phone works great with liquidsmooth (which uses 4.4.4) instead of the stock ROM. The only outstanding problem for me is that the phone will not link cleanly with my car....it connects and then disconnects and keeps repeating that loop. I've tried every standard ROM and they all have the problem...as does liquidsmooth. Bluetooth, however, works perfectly with my pebble watch. If you are concerned about it linking with your car, go to a verizon store and see if you can link the phone...and if it stays linked.
Moto X is an awesome phone! Then again you asked it in a Moto X forum
As for on Verizon, I agree with what others said. If you are looking for OEM dev support than Motorola is exceptional with that and has promised Android 5 on this phone. For that you only need the locked up device. If you are wondering about 3rd party ROM's like CyanogenMod then you need the dev version of the phone.
I personally have my X bootloader unlocked but I find i use the stock Motorola image over custom roms. The only thing I like about having my X unlocked is I installed Xposed framework for extra configuration options. For that you need to be rooted. Its easier to root and to sustain root if your bootloader is unlocked.
Hope this helps.
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I agree with scoobaspeaz, I have done the same thing, unlocked the boot-loader and rooted the device, but I stayed on stock rom with xposed. If you know how to use tasker, the possibilities of this phone are endless.
It is incredibly fast and responsive, even after almost a year of using it. I have never wiped the phone and started over and I've only had to actually restart the device a handful of times. I can safely say that I've restarted the device more times to show off a cool no boot animation, than I've restarted it for any other reasons.
Also, as far as getting it before the x+1 comes out.... I say get it and then when you replace it, find a way to utilize the old phone for always listening capabilities in your house. It may take some money and ingenuity, but the things you could do will be amazing.
If you want root, buy the developer edition. Otherwise, buy one off MotoMaker.
I have several "upgrades" to burn on my family plan but haven't had any urge to grab one of the flagships on the cheap. The only thing I have ever felt was missing was an external microSD card slot and removable battery, but I bought a 64gb Sandisk Dual-USB OTG memory stick and a Jackery charger. Not as elegant but it works just the same and gives me more options for the future. I always had spare batteries and 32gb SD cards for my previous Android phones, but they became a bit of a hassle with having to power the phone down to change batteries or get access to the SD card (and SIM). My previous phones (Galaxy Nexus and Note 2) didn't have external access to either card.
Hey guys i know people are going to have very different opinions but what do you guys think i should do? I really like the look of moto x and like the fact that i can customize the look in moto maker. S5 doesnt really have any huge features that i use. The only thing i would miss is the camera as i take pics of my 10 month old son.
moto x has the cool notification thing and stuff. And the fact i have the £100 off promo code. I would be looking at tue 32gb model and can get around £260 for my S5.
So is it worth buying the moto x and selling the s5?
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I can tell you as a moto x owner, its a great piece of hardware IF, if don't mind the camera producing barely adequate photos and below adequate battery life. If you don't mind these two then its perfect for you but I do suggest you get the turbo charger, probably the best little battery solution if you don't mind carrying a charger
Cant the camera be sorted out using a different camera app? I heard the camera app on the moto x is a bit pants. The camera and battery are the only 2 things holding me back right now. If i can get a full day at work out of the phone then i would be happy with the battery
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Hey guys i know people are going to have very different opinions but what do you guys think i should do? I really like the look of moto x and like the fact that i can customize the look in moto maker. S5 doesnt really have any huge features that i use. The only thing i would miss is the camera as i take pics of my 10 month old son.
moto x has the cool notification thing and stuff. And the fact i have the £100 off promo code. I would be looking at tue 32gb model and can get around £260 for my S5.
So is it worth buying the moto x and selling the s5?
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The two phones are very similar, but completely different. Almost exactly same size, AMOLED screen, same processor. Samsung is touchwiz SAMSUNG environment (I have a SAMSUNG tablet) with every feature possible stuffed in someplace, but with the chance of lag. Motorola is Android, with some neat interaction features that you can load or disable. Moto X camera and screen are fine, but the Samsung screen and camera are a little better, Samsung has a microSD slot. Samsung has odd plastic materials that you throw in a case to cover. Motorola has ultra-premium build with custom materials that you don't want to cover. Do you want a super-loaded estate that can carry anything you need, but is not so much fun to drive or look at, or an ultra-light stripped-down sports car with premium finish? They will both get you to work.
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I can tell you as a moto x owner, its a great piece of hardware IF, if don't mind the camera producing barely adequate photos and below adequate battery life. If you don't mind these two then its perfect for you but I do suggest you get the turbo charger, probably the best little battery solution if you don't mind carrying a charger
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From my reading about the Moto X 2014 camera; it pretty good. Only in low light situations is were it has trouble. Other then that; the pictures are " pretty close" to that of the iPhone 6 in quality.
I think you will like the new Moto X 2014. I just purchase a 32GB Yellow 5C and like it very much. But I going to get a new Moto X 2014 because I like the look too! Plus, I never had an Android phone before! With the $150 off; it makes buying the Moto X that much easier to do! After all; you only live once!(that I know of). LOL!
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I think you will like the new Moto X 2014. I just purchase a 32GB Yellow 5C and like it very much. But I going to get a new Moto X 2014 because I like the look too! Plus, I never had an Android phone before! With the $150 off; it makes buying the Moto X that much easier to do! After all; you only live once!(that I know of). LOL!
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Yeah my problem is ive had 2 phones since the LG G3 was released. I had the G3 and got rid of it due to it shutting itself off (which happened to my gf's G3 too) and then got the S5 a couple months later. And my only real issues with the S5 are its plastic build, touchwiz (using nova though) and all the pre installed junk. Love nexus devices and really wanted the nexus 6 but that bad boys just far to big for my small hands lol.
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We all have different needs and requirements from phones, but I will personally state the Moto X2 is the finest phone I've owned so far. I've never owned a contract carrer phone, but have owned the Moto X 2013, Nexus 5, Galaxy S III, and now the Nexus 6 but this phone beats all. Battery life has not been an issue for me - with moderate screen on time I'm getting 24hrs until a recharge is necessary.
Now's the time to make the switch if you can take advantage of the $140 discount being offered today until 5PM CST...
Thanks for the help everyone any more info on the battery and camera of the moto x would be welcome. If i k ew how to upload pics of my S5 battery usage i would ask for an idea of how long you think the moto x battery would last in comparison lol.
Oh and i think us guys in the uk may have less options in the moto maker compared to you guys across the pond. Dont quote me on that though. Just very hard to tell what the colours look like without a real world screen shot.
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I can tell you as a moto x owner, its a great piece of hardware IF, if don't mind the camera producing barely adequate photos and below adequate battery life. If you don't mind these two then its perfect for you but I do suggest you get the turbo charger, probably the best little battery solution if you don't mind carrying a charger
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Yeah my problem is ive had 2 phones since the LG G3 was released. I had the G3 and got rid of it due to it shutting itself off (which happened to my gf's G3 too) and then got the S5 a couple months later. And my only real issues with the S5 are its plastic build, touchwiz (using nova though) and all the pre installed junk. Love nexus devices and really wanted the nexus 6 but that bad boys just far to big for my small hands lol.
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Got the models mixed up! Apple and Samsung! Yes, think you might like the Moto X 2014 better then the Samsung Galaxy S5 since Samsung customizes their launcher and the look of the back cover is sort of cheesy vinyl but that all up to you to make the call to switch! $150 off is the equalizer if however, you choice to do the switch! What a decision to make!
I've had the GS4 and this MotoX. I can tell you without a doubt, after using it,I would jump on the S5. The sd card, the display, the battery, and camera, its all superior. The sd card alone is worth the lag that touchwiz gives. That said, this is the fastest phone I've ever touched.
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Thanks for the help everyone any more info on the battery and camera of the moto x would be welcome. If i k ew how to upload pics of my S5 battery usage i would ask for an idea of how long you think the moto x battery would last in comparison lol.
Oh and i think us guys in the uk may have less options in the moto maker compared to you guys across the pond. Dont quote me on that though. Just very hard to tell what the colours look like without a real world screen shot.
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Take a look at the thread under general of photos of peoples phones. It will give you a good idea of what the combinations look like. 2 or 3 leather, 4 wood, and 10 or 12 colours with white of black front and 8 or 10 trim hi-lights.
So do you guys think selling my s5 to get a moto X is worth it? Or am i just spending an extra £100 for nothing? Lol so undicided at the moment its driving me nuts lol
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So do you guys think selling my s5 to get a moto X is worth it? Or am i just spending an extra £100 for nothing? Lol so undicided at the moment its driving me nuts lol
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Same processor, same RAM, same screen... though I find the S5 better. Worse battery life by far, worse camera, no SD card, no water proofing, no USB 3.0, no awful fingerprint reader. Then again, you gain a better build and some exterior features, along with the active screen and other software stuff. Don't know about you, but I don't spend much time looking at the back of my phone.
If you put your phone in a case, then there's no doubt you should stay with the S5 and invest when a real upgrade comes along. The Droid Turbo 64gb maybe, this I'd say no.
Anyone else got any opinions on selling my galaxy S5 to get a Moto X? Im really torn at the moment and really want the moto x for its beauty and vanilla android experiance but am still a little worried about battery life and the screen issues ive read about.
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All I can say is that you'll love the Moto X. If you have the money, go for it. I had a Moto X for a week and returned it. Now, I'm already missing it a lot. I didn't return it because I didn't like it; I returned it because it is a pain in the ass for me to get the 32gb version and it was costly to import. So, now with the 100 euros discount, I'm definitely gonna order one through Moto Maker and get it delivered here through a mail forwaring service. I was going to get the Nexus 5 32gb instead because of the reasons I pointed earlier, but now it's a no brainer.
The software features and build quality of it are impressive.
At this point, I had never considered buying a Samsung phone. If you like yours, nothing against it, but from my experience in store, the build quality and Touch Wiz is like a repellent.
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All I can say is that you'll love the Moto X. If you have the money, go for it. I had a Moto X for a week and returned it. Now, I'm already missing it a lot. I didn't return it because I didn't like it; I returned it because it is a pain in the ass for me to get the 32gb version and it was costly to import. So, now with the 100 euros discount, I'm definitely gonna order one through Moto Maker and get it delivered here through a mail forwaring service. I was going to get the Nexus 5 32gb instead because of the reasons I pointed earlier, but now it's a no brainer.
The software features and build quality of it are impressive.
At this point, I had never considered buying a Samsung phone. If you like yours, nothing against it, but from my experience in store, the build quality and Touch Wiz is like a repellent.
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Yeah im with you on the samsung hate lol, i only got the S5 because the LG G3 was just a nightmare device for me. Dont get me wrong the G3 is a nice phone its just a shame that it was riddled with overheating issues and random shut offs etc.
I think i am going to get the moto x now, i just need to decide on what back to get out of the cool colours and the neutral colours lol
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Yeah im with you on the samsung hate lol, i only got the S5 because the LG G3 was just a nightmare device for me. Dont get me wrong the G3 is a nice phone its just a shame that it was riddled with overheating issues and random shut offs etc.
I think i am going to get the moto x now, i just need to decide on what back to get out of the cool colours and the neutral colours lol
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I had the standard soft touch plastic back. It is really great, if you like it. Though, this time I'm going for the leather, since the customization factor is a big one on the Moto X.
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Anyone else got any opinions on selling my galaxy S5 to get a Moto X? Im really torn at the moment and really want the moto x for its beauty and vanilla android experiance but am still a little worried about battery life and the screen issues ive read about.
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Personally, if offered the 2 phones, I would take the Moto X. If offered the 2 phones, but I had to pay an extra $100 for the Moto X, I would take the S5. In your case, I would sit tight for a while. You have any interest in a Nexus 6? That is a different beast.
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Personally, if offered the 2 phones, I would take the Moto X. If offered the 2 phones, but I had to pay an extra $100 for the Moto X, I would take the S5. In your case, I would sit tight for a while. You have any interest in a Nexus 6? That is a different beast.
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A beast to big for my hands sadly lol
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A beast to big for my hands sadly lol
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Understood.
If you do get the X, the options for wood or leather do make it special. Nobody else has that. Natural leather appears to be ageing poorly, but the dyed versions are holding up well.