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Need help - Moto X on Verizon - yes or no?

Hey!
So I'm going be getting a phone on Verizon. Do you think (at this point, 10 months old) it's a good idea to go with the Moto X?
How is development for Moto X? I'm not interested in CM or most custom ROMS. Just when Moto stops updating officially, I'd like to have a stock ROM. That's all.
Also, how do you think the SAMOLED screen will manage as Android is getting whiter and lighter than before? I've heard that amoled screens are good with blacks, but there aren't many anymore with Android.
Lastly, are there any issues or differences with the Verizon one? I'm not sure if I should go with a plan, or unlocked!
Thanks,

Most people would always recommend the Dev. edition because its already unlocked.. But if ur not doing anything (Roms etc) there's not really a point... I love my x bit as far as the samoled screed goes I don't know..as far as being 10 months old.. Its done well. In my opinion..but regardless how its doing...its interesting t see what other ppl think since lenovo bought moto from google ..
Slapped my Moto

I really like my Moto X. I'm happy I went with it over any other phone last year. For me it has the best features. The Active Display and Touchless controls are fantastic.
I have the Developer Edition and run Moto Stock based ROMs. Eclipse and Krypotnite. All Motorola features work on them plus there's two, going to be three stock kernels soon.
Battery life is great.
With that being said, if you don't need a phone at this time I'd wait to see what's coming. The Moto X+1.

SahilC said:
Hey!
So I'm going be getting a phone on Verizon. Do you think (at this point, 10 months old) it's a good idea to go with the Moto X?
How is development for Moto X? I'm not interested in CM or most custom ROMS. Just when Moto stops updating officially, I'd like to have a stock ROM. That's all.
Also, how do you think the SAMOLED screen will manage as Android is getting whiter and lighter than before? I've heard that amoled screens are good with blacks, but there aren't many anymore with Android.
Lastly, are there any issues or differences with the Verizon one? I'm not sure if I should go with a plan, or unlocked!
Thanks,
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I just ordered 2 Moto X phones from Motorola to use on Verizon. I hope I am happy. There is coupon code that is easy to find. It is good for a couple more days. The 16 gig is $299 and the 32 gig is $324. I am going to go with prepaid. You get unlimited call and text and 500 mg of data for $45 a month when you bring your own phone. It says if you let them deduct the money from your checking you get 1 gig for the $45.You can buy more data.
It works for me.

SahilC said:
Hey!
So I'm going be getting a phone on Verizon. Do you think (at this point, 10 months old) it's a good idea to go with the Moto X?
How is development for Moto X? I'm not interested in CM or most custom ROMS. Just when Moto stops updating officially, I'd like to have a stock ROM. That's all.
Also, how do you think the SAMOLED screen will manage as Android is getting whiter and lighter than before? I've heard that amoled screens are good with blacks, but there aren't many anymore with Android.
Lastly, are there any issues or differences with the Verizon one? I'm not sure if I should go with a plan, or unlocked!
Thanks,
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The X is still a nice device.
Going with Verizon, I would only ever consider getting the Developer Edition X for Verizon. Why? Beacause you can unlock the bootloader to root and disable write protection. Unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty. After unlocking the bootloader you can also flash custom or 3rd party roms.
The regular Moto Maker and "retail" Verizon X can not have their bootloaders unlocked (unless the Chinese Middleman can come through for you, which is not as reliable lately and voids your warranty). This means you can't root, can't disable write protection, and can not install anything but the factory roms. So you are STUCK with how your phone is out of the box. If Moto/VZW stop pushing updates for the X you are stuck.
Don't get me wrong, a stock X is a nice device, and will work great. But you mentioned when moto stops officially updating, which implies you want the ability to flash something later (which is only possible with an unlocked bootloader)
I like my X, I've recommended it to friends and family. Its the right size. Snappy. Responsive. The only real draw back is no SD card (I would mostly use for media), and the camera is still a little lacking for me. Light needs to be "just right" to get an awesome picture.

tf442 said:
I just ordered 2 Moto X phones from Motorola to use on Verizon. I hope I am happy. There is coupon code that is easy to find. It is good for a couple more days. The 16 gig is $299 and the 32 gig is $324. I am going to go with prepaid. You get unlimited call and text and 500 mg of data for $45 a month when you bring your own phone. It says if you let them deduct the money from your checking you get 1 gig for the $45.You can buy more data.
It works for me.
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500mb?! I'd blow that in a day...maybe two... But glad to hear ur giving it a try!
Slapped my Moto

I have a verizon DE phone....the phone works great with liquidsmooth (which uses 4.4.4) instead of the stock ROM. The only outstanding problem for me is that the phone will not link cleanly with my car....it connects and then disconnects and keeps repeating that loop. I've tried every standard ROM and they all have the problem...as does liquidsmooth. Bluetooth, however, works perfectly with my pebble watch. If you are concerned about it linking with your car, go to a verizon store and see if you can link the phone...and if it stays linked.

Moto X is an awesome phone! Then again you asked it in a Moto X forum
As for on Verizon, I agree with what others said. If you are looking for OEM dev support than Motorola is exceptional with that and has promised Android 5 on this phone. For that you only need the locked up device. If you are wondering about 3rd party ROM's like CyanogenMod then you need the dev version of the phone.
I personally have my X bootloader unlocked but I find i use the stock Motorola image over custom roms. The only thing I like about having my X unlocked is I installed Xposed framework for extra configuration options. For that you need to be rooted. Its easier to root and to sustain root if your bootloader is unlocked.
Hope this helps.

awesome phoen
I agree with scoobaspeaz, I have done the same thing, unlocked the boot-loader and rooted the device, but I stayed on stock rom with xposed. If you know how to use tasker, the possibilities of this phone are endless.
It is incredibly fast and responsive, even after almost a year of using it. I have never wiped the phone and started over and I've only had to actually restart the device a handful of times. I can safely say that I've restarted the device more times to show off a cool no boot animation, than I've restarted it for any other reasons.
Also, as far as getting it before the x+1 comes out.... I say get it and then when you replace it, find a way to utilize the old phone for always listening capabilities in your house. It may take some money and ingenuity, but the things you could do will be amazing.

If you want root, buy the developer edition. Otherwise, buy one off MotoMaker.
I have several "upgrades" to burn on my family plan but haven't had any urge to grab one of the flagships on the cheap. The only thing I have ever felt was missing was an external microSD card slot and removable battery, but I bought a 64gb Sandisk Dual-USB OTG memory stick and a Jackery charger. Not as elegant but it works just the same and gives me more options for the future. I always had spare batteries and 32gb SD cards for my previous Android phones, but they became a bit of a hassle with having to power the phone down to change batteries or get access to the SD card (and SIM). My previous phones (Galaxy Nexus and Note 2) didn't have external access to either card.

[Q] Should I switch from Verizon Galaxy S4 to Verizon Moto X (2014)?

I've had a rooted S4 since it came out last May, so over a year and a half, which I love, besides a few problems, and I was looking at the Moto X. I have read a bunch and I see that there is no root for the Verizon version. Has anyone made the switch from a rooted device that they loved to the unrooted Moto X? Curious if it is worth it or not as there are some Xposed modules I use quite a bit.

I came from the S3 on Verizon, which I had unlocked and rooted the whole time I owned it. Prior to that I had the OG EVO on Sprint, which was unlocked and rooted as well. I had a blast on the EVO and gained a lot of value from unlock/root then plus it was just exciting and enjoyable tinkering with it. The S3 experience was good in that I had AOSP ROMs, but I basically kept ending back on CM. While CM provided the latest version of Android, I was so tired of the problems that never seemed to go away-- SMS/MMS, bluetooth, GPS and more. It was to the point I would be reluctant to flash any update knowing a new problem would surface. I eventually just moved to a TouchWiz ROM and left it to avoid the problems. TWRP was buggy too, so I had to bounce around recoveries as well. That obviously is a part of using a rooted phone and messing with it, but I guess I got a little burned out with that. If you have free time and enjoy that whole process of testing things and tinkering, you would probably miss root/Xposed. For me, I wanted stock Android that worked. I think Moto's customizations are very smart and useful like a custom ROM. I miss cf.Lumen, which required root, but otherwise I like this phone and like having the latest Android. The Nexus 6 was too big for me. If you can handle that size (and price until there is a on-contract option), that could be an option. I also really enjoyed building a custom Moto with a leather back. You could write down everything you use root/Xposed for and see what alternatives exist in an unrooted world and go from there. If there are no deal breakers, I think it is a great phone with great software.

smelkus said:
I came from the S3 on Verizon, which I had unlocked and rooted the whole time I owned it. Prior to that I had the OG EVO on Sprint, which was unlocked and rooted as well. I had a blast on the EVO and gained a lot of value from unlock/root then plus it was just exciting and enjoyable tinkering with it. The S3 experience was good in that I had AOSP ROMs, but I basically kept ending back on CM. While CM provided the latest version of Android, I was so tired of the problems that never seemed to go away-- SMS/MMS, bluetooth, GPS and more. It was to the point I would be reluctant to flash any update knowing a new problem would surface. I eventually just moved to a TouchWiz ROM and left it to avoid the problems. TWRP was buggy too, so I had to bounce around recoveries as well. That obviously is a part of using a rooted phone and messing with it, but I guess I got a little burned out with that. If you have free time and enjoy that whole process of testing things and tinkering, you would probably miss root/Xposed. For me, I wanted stock Android that worked. I think Moto's customizations are very smart and useful like a custom ROM. I miss cf.Lumen, which required root, but otherwise I like this phone and like having the latest Android. The Nexus 6 was too big for me. If you can handle that size (and price until there is a on-contract option), that could be an option. I also really enjoyed building a custom Moto with a leather back. You could write down everything you use root/Xposed for and see what alternatives exist in an unrooted world and go from there. If there are no deal breakers, I think it is a great phone with great software.
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I appreciate you taking your time to write that up. I am almost 100% on buying it, but I just noticed the Droid Turbo. My real main reasons for not getting it already is the Non removable small battery and the camera. I have heard both sides of the fences with some saying they are fine, and some saying they are horrible. The Droid Turbo seems to have better camera and battery, but then again, I have heard both sides of the fences again, with people saying it isn't that much better, if even better at all. But the Moto X is so sexy compared to the Droid Turbo. The Non removable battery just really annoys me though. I go to a lot of conventions, and I like with the G4 having a spare battery to switch and instantly be at 100%.
I just can't wait until they come out with the PERFECT phone.......if that ever happens.....

Every time I'm at phone decision time I feel the same way. This one is too big. This one has an older chip... different resolution... AMOLED.... LCD... SD card on and on. I passed on the Turbo because I didn't like the back and old navigation bar icons. Spec-wise it is solid. This Moto X is my first non-removable battery and non-SD card phone. I got past the battery thing because I'm a working stiff. Most weeks I'm at the office then home. On weekends I use the turbo charger at home to give me the boost for the evening and I always have a couple of external battery packs for insurance and convenience. It is surprising how nice an external battery pack is even if you are just outside or somewhere away from a charger. Don't have to power down and get to keep on going. When I travel for work, I've noticed there are built in breaks where I can let my phone charge on a pack, e.g. airport security, checking out of hotels, catching rides, meeting suppliers at places, so I haven't found the battery to be an issue. We'll see how I feel about the SD card thing a year from now or so. I got the 32GB for $50 in hopes of at least making it manageable. The Moto X is a good looking phone though that is for sure.

I had the original Moto X (with unlocked bootloader), loved it. Then I got a new job that have me the S4 (which I rooted). Didn't really like it but still have it. Two weeks ago I had the opportunity to upgrade to the 2nd Gen Moto X, so now I'm carrying with me the S4 and new X (just to give some reference).
I liked the size of the old X, and wish I could have retained that. But I didn't want to get left behind by not upgrading. I do miss root, mainly for a few xposed modules like gravitybox, Moto tether, and exchange bypass. But since I have my work phone I can tether in a pinch (not frequently needed at all).
There are sacrifices to all changes. For me, owning the non-rootable 2nd Gen X was worth the tradeoffs. I think you would be happy with the transition if you don't mind sacrificing root (I'm hopeful a method will be released!). I like the feel of it more than the S4 (physical handling, plus the coolness factor of designing it), the speed (S4 just feels more bulky and stutters quite a bit more), and the Moto features. I've found the radios (esp wifi) better on the X. I have the 32GB and haven't run into a problem yet. Though I can't fairly compare batteries since I use the two for very different purposes throughout my day.
Good luck!

Thanks to both of you. I ordered a 32gb last night as well as the Turbo Charger. Can't wait! Hope it comes in fast.

About 4-5 days (including shipping)

NRGZ28 said:
About 4-5 days (including shipping)
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Did it say the box where its made/shipped from? I remember them making the first one in Texas.

Getting Xposed to work with kingroot

I have just rooted my phone with kingroot and I'm wondering if there is any way to get Xposed to work, even if it is just temporary.

cadenmiller60 said:
I have just rooted my phone with kingroot and I'm wondering if there is any way to get Xposed to work, even if it is just temporary.
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No, unfortunately not. Wish there was something to say other than no.

Requires System R/W permissions which the Turbo doesn't have

Back when the turbo was first root wasn't there a way to achieve temporary write protect off? How could I do that? I don't care if it makes my phone unstable.

cadenmiller60 said:
Back when the turbo was first root wasn't there a way to achieve temporary write protect off? How could I do that? I don't care if it makes my phone unstable.
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If you're looking for an answer you won't get it. I wrote a script for it. But all it would do was write to cache. Nothing system side is ever actually touched. The apps just think it did but it was actually just in cache.
You'll have to wait for something else.

time to return this phone to verizon and get a galaxy instead.

zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
time to return this phone to verizon and get a galaxy instead.
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Or get the Turbo's big brother - nexus 6 - no hoops to jump thru for root/updates.

hotrodwinston said:
Or get the Turbo's big brother - nexus 6 - no hoops to jump thru for root/updates.
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it was a very good suggestion. However after doing some research i quickly found that 1) no external storage and 2) can't get 64gb for verizon. 32gb is NOT acceptable when you can't even add storage!! Also if i got an unlocked 64gb, i read that it will be a PITA is even possible to hook it up on verizon.
So unfortunately it seems I am going back to the s5.

or there is mofo root and system images with xposed baked in...
The battery on the Turbo is so much better than having to look for a charger at 4pm for the S5

Call me crazy, but I just sold my Nexus 6 and got a droid turbo. When you've tried a few ROMS, what your aiming for ultimately is a quick might ROM with added features, and that's what the Turbo does have. Right out of the box. Nexus 6 had wonderful battery life + turbo charger, better than any phone I've ever owned, but the Turbo has the turbo charger and an even BETTER battery! I kinda miss the whole material thing, I can't switch to ART-mode for some reason prolly cuz I rooted it and stuff.. Who knows. I don't care because supposedly the lollipop update will be out and that's good enough for me
Oh and plus the N6 would be unusable whenever I docked it in my car because it uses magnets to hold my phone in place.
Too lazy to figure that one out, too busy playing with my new car.

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Or get the Turbo's big brother - nexus 6 - no hoops to jump thru for root/updates.
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The Nexus 6 has no removable SD card. The Turbo cannot be rooted since the bootloader is locked.
I ended up picking up returning the $600 turbo to verizon, for which I had paid cash (for which they ROBBED ME AT GUNPOINT OF $50 but that's another story, not an actual gun but they stole that from me as a "restocking fee", robbery), and instead picked up a Verizon Galaxy S5 on craigslist, downgraded it to 4.4.2 (an upgrade in my opinion), and rooted it.
I've been using this Galxy S5 for a long time now fully rooted and everything. Happy. I had to jump through a few hoops with the OS downgrade etc to get it rooted though. But now that it's done I am happy. I would love to get a bigger slimmer and better phone with removable SD card and removable battery, that can be rooted, but it seems my S5 is the best I can do. Maybe I will have to wait a few more years. I was looking at the moto x which seems viable, except for the fact there is no removable battery, so I will probably not get it. My S5 still has at least a few more years of life left.
That's fine though, my S5 has been working beautifully for me. What I really want is a new 7.0 tablet with a removable SD card with more memory and more ram and a more vivid screen that is 7.0 inches and not 8.0 or 8.0 inches because that is too big, but I am stuck with the tab 4 that only has 8gb of memory, since no tab exists that's better that is 7.0 inches.

zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
The Nexus 6 has no removable SD card. The Turbo cannot be rooted since the bootloader is locked.
I ended up picking up returning the $600 turbo to verizon, for which I had paid cash (for which they ROBBED ME AT GUNPOINT OF $50 but that's another story, not an actual gun but they stole that from me as a "restocking fee", robbery), and instead picked up a Verizon Galaxy S5 on craigslist, downgraded it to 4.4.2 (an upgrade in my opinion), and rooted it.
I've been using this Galxy S5 for a long time now fully rooted and everything. Happy. I had to jump through a few hoops with the OS downgrade etc to get it rooted though. But now that it's done I am happy. I would love to get a bigger slimmer and better phone with removable SD card and removable battery, that can be rooted, but it seems my S5 is the best I can do. Maybe I will have to wait a few more years. I was looking at the moto x which seems viable, except for the fact there is no removable battery, so I will probably not get it. My S5 still has at least a few more years of life left.
That's fine though, my S5 has been working beautifully for me. What I really want is a new 7.0 tablet with a removable SD card with more memory and more ram and a more vivid screen that is 7.0 inches and not 8.0 or 8.0 inches because that is too big, but I am stuck with the tab 4 that only has 8gb of memory, since no tab exists that's better that is 7.0 inches.
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Could have saved yourself 50$ restocking fee with a simple search. Costs $20 with sunshine to unlock turbo bootloader.

I know, old topic, but, i somehow managed to install xposed framework with kingo root. But I don't know precizely how did this happen.
Initially, i couldn't install xposed, then I installed CWM with it's recovery from Store via APK, then I was flashing something through this recovery, and in the end, it always ask to prevent from unroot, then I was tapping yes.
When making one or all of these operations, xposed framework installed fine.

[Q] How is Lollipop on the MotoX? (VZW)

I had the MotoX when it first came out and loved it. That itch for the next new thing drove me to drop it and go bigger/newer. Here I am today, where prices for a MotoX are sub $100 and I would love to go back in time and see how much I still love this phone.
Question is, how is it doing on Lollipop? I think I moved on from it when it was still 4.X or so and it seemed to get me through the day battery wise and rarely ever stuttered too badly getting through most tasks. I presume all the great Moto stuff like twist camera and active displays have remained largely unchanged through the OS updates?
Guess I'm just trying to get a quick synopsis on the MX after 18 months of being gone. Appreciate anything anyone has to offer.

I really like Lollipop and was happy to get a pre-release test version (very late beta?) before the official release. But, I'm almost certain battery life is not as good under Lollipop as under Kitkat. It's a little hard to say, because my Moto X was getting pretty old when I first installed Lollipop, so perhaps the battery was already weaker (man, I hate unremovable batteries).
While I've not gone back to Kitkat yet, I have installed a Lollipop-based custom ROM that is supposed to include kernel tweaks that will improve battery life. Also, it's a bit more stripped-down than stock Lollipop, so I'm going longer between recharges.
But, as far as Lollipop itself goes, it looks and performs great, I think. I prefer it to iOS, which I played around with for a couple of weeks recently.

IMHO, quite well. I have the Dev Ed, and I always root and Xposed my devices. I got it full flashed to stock 5.1 (bought it with Krypton loaded, hah!) and then rooted and xposed. Had to redo the flash a day later as it's only half working, had to do the modem firmware flash too. Now it's working fine. With Xposed fixes left and right I got the system tweaked just right, and with Doze app running the phone can last most of the day if it can sit idle most of the time.

I just brought my moto x back to life Saturday I had stopped using it only because I broke the digtizer and started using my nexus 6 as my daily driver don't get me wrong I love my nexus 6 a lot but my moto x is the perfect size it still looks great and is as fast as ever when compared to my nexus 6 side by side I can't tell the speed difference in real time usage I actually swapped my sim card back to my moto x and shelved my nexus 6 until I feel like using it again I rooted my moto x and love it it's a great phone and in my opinion it aged well to bad Motorola already dropped support on it

Should I root my note 4

I have a t-mobile note 4. I am thinking about rooting my phone but wanted to know the pros and cons. I know a while back it was worth it workout a question. However, now that we are in 2016 is it really worth it? I know about Knox but I never use it so it won't be an issue losing it.

I've had my Note4 for 2 years unrooted. I only disabled the T-Mobile bloat.
If I had it to do all over again, I'd get an international Note4. With the latest 6.0.1, I have no reason to root my phone.

JrWiggs said:
I have a t-mobile note 4. I am thinking about rooting my phone but wanted to know the pros and cons. I know a while back it was worth it workout a question. However, now that we are in 2016 is it really worth it? I know about Knox but I never use it so it won't be an issue losing it.
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If you don't use Knox now you will likely never use it.
I say use it as long as you can stock and when you get bored or the phone starts to slow down, either root and flash a new rom or perform a complete wipe/ factory reset and start back at day 1. The great thing is you can always look forward to having the option.

I bought used about 6 months after it came out. I rooted it before booting the first time as I've rooted every device since my droid x (roughly 10 devices). AdAway, titanium backup are necessary for me, especially AdAway. Xposed is nice for customizing as well. The 910T was made for rooting and playing around with. Easy to use and hard to screw up.

Yes. Be the administrator of the device you own. Free your device totally from the control of of companies who have no right to your information or battery usage.
XDA lives matter!