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Was reading it last night on the Vodafone Australia Google + page.
Be warned, also warranty maybe different in your country. Confirm with Sony in your country
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Unbelievable.
They create a glass phone and cover it in plastic
Still looks and performs much better without it. I'm happy i removed mine.
It only breaks warranty if the damage is a consequence of you removing the film.
Meaning if your screen shatters you can't say I want a replacement because you removed the protective layer (but you wouldn't get a replacement even with the protector on anyway).
Total baloney, loads of people removed theirs from other Xperias and had no trouble whatsoever. The Z is no different.
Glad I did it, screen feels so much nicer to the touch.
lloydbf said:
It only breaks warranty if the damage is a consequence of you removing the film.
Meaning if your screen shatters you can't say I want a replacement because you removed the protective layer (but you wouldn't get a replacement even with the protector on anyway).
Total baloney, loads of people removed theirs from other Xperias and had no trouble whatsoever. The Z is no different.
Glad I did it, screen feels so much nicer to the touch.
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Yes, screen feels a lot better. And... Phone looks better too, which is why i bought it partly for. For the look and design. (+performance too) :highfive:
Nothing there that is not already obvious, if you remove the film and then drop the phone causing the screen to crack of course it won't be covered under warranty, but then even if the film was on and the same thing happened, that wouldn't be under warranty anyway.
The only slight problem is if you do as they say and break the waterproof sealant while removing the film and then decide to drop the phone in water, but you'd have to be pretty clumsy to remove it that viciously!
So if you want the film removed go ahead and enjoy the different look and feel, I'm pretty sure most of us are going to be careful with our phones all the same
I'm just curious as to whether anyone thinks leaving the film on might slightly reduce the chance of the glass cracking to start with.
I doubt it, and if it did surely the difference would be minute.
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Drop with layer = contained crack, replacement via insurance.
Drop without layer = crack & shatter, replacement via insurance.
Remove it, it looks/feels sooooo much better without.
Decided to remove both films - glad I did!
Phone look indeed much better, doesn't attract dust, less fingerprints, better responsiveness and even better screen IQ.
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But the Sony Logo will be gone if you remove it, right?
Won't there be much more Fingerprints on it? Heared the Screen doesnt have an oleophobic coating?
Neither does the film.
Paddiii said:
But the Sony Logo will be gone if you remove it, right?
Won't there be much more Fingerprints on it? Heared the Screen doesnt have an oleophobic coating?
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no, sony logo will be part of the glass. someone else confirmed it in the other thread. the photos you see online are the pre production models.
btw, most companies saying stuff like it may or will void your warranty when you removed it and blah blah.....sometimes they just want to scare you. They dont want you to remove it so they dont have to deal with it. just saying ~
LitoNi said:
no, sony logo will be part of the glass. someone else confirmed it in the other thread. the photos you see online are the pre production models.
btw, most companies saying stuff like it may or will void your warranty when you removed it and blah blah.....sometimes they just want to scare you. They dont want you to remove it so they dont have to deal with it. just saying ~
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Really ? i saw some pic. showing no Sony logo after Removal !!!!
LitoNi said:
no, sony logo will be part of the glass. someone else confirmed it in the other thread. the photos you see online are the pre production models.
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I haven't seen anyone say that, every single post I've seen where people say they've removed it say the logo has come off on their new phones...
My SONY logo came off with/was printed on the pre applied layer.
Not bothered.
I removed it on the back.
It feels much better now, but there are much much more fingerprints visible
I dont want to imaging how bad his would be for the front
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Unbelievable.
They create a glass phone and cover it in plastic
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Read with understanding...
They will not repair your device if you take it off and damage the phone in a way that is a direct result of that...
If the internal hardware is faulty, they won't look at your screen and repair the phone.
If you'll damage the screen though ( crack, broken glass pieces damaging the screen itself etc ) and have the film removed - they'll most likely deny your claim.
If you decide to take a safety measure off - don't blame Sony if you damage this particular part. It's obvious, it's understandable, it's perfectly fair.
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Read with understanding...
They will not repair your device if you take it off and damage the phone in a way that is a direct result of that...
If the internal hardware is faulty, they won't look at your screen and repair the phone.
If you'll damage the screen though ( crack, broken glass pieces damaging the screen itself etc ) and have the film removed - they'll most likely deny your claim.
If you decide to take a safety measure off - don't blame Sony if you damage this particular part. It's obvious, it's understandable, it's perfectly fair.
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Dropping & cracking a screen isn't covered by warranty anyway.
It's accidental damage, not faulty equipment.
Therefore, removed or not, it's a repaired screen or replacement Z either out of your own pocket or via insurance.
Guys you are missing the point here. If you break the screen with or without plastic film warranty won't cover repairs in either case, but it will be much easier to shatter screen without protective film. Same amount of force which is enough to shatter unprotected screen won't be enough to shatter screen with film on it.
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Guys you are missing the point here. If you break the screen with or without plastic film warranty won't cover repairs in either case, but it will be much easier to shatter screen without protective film. Same amount of force which is enough to shatter unprotected screen won't be enough to shatter screen with film on it.
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I thought the film had no effect on its force resistance, just that the shards if broken will be kept safe and not shatter everywhere.
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You wouldn't believe how it happened either. I was using my tie to quickly remove a smudge before showing it off to someone. My tie has a small pin on it. While wiping lightly with the tip of my tie, an edge of my decorative pin slide across where the glass meets the opening of the microphone area (bottom) caught and edge and cracked it right there. Ya I know, the odds of it catching right there! This happened in an aircraft up at altitude, my screen was still use-able. Once we descended though (pressure increased) 4 almost uniform cracks spread out in a 'V' from the center of the microphone area and now my screen is completely useless and can't unlock it or even power the damn thing off.
I am shocked that it took so little effort though to break this glass. I am thankful though that literally the day before I completed an entire backup to SD card via the included Sony backup/restore app.
Now what.
me too!
Yes same here, my back glass cracked...... Its was in my pocket then I pulled my phone out and put it on a leather couch, within seconds I heard a "Tick" I picked up my phone and the glass had cracked.
Hot in the pocket and cold leather couch made this glass crack. also happened to my wifes phone 20mins ago when she put it on the kitchen bench.... that's what made me write this to this thread.
Massive fault with this phone. Totally ruined the IP rating now which was the reason why I brought this phone. And there is no where selling replacements of glass yet.
Those stories are shocking and I really feel for you guys. I have my Z in a cheap plastic/rubber case and I pray it wont be so easy to crack.
Ouch.. I (literally) threw my friends Z on the floir and nothing happened to it, now I've seen this its kinda shocking...
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Good news is Visa is replacing the phone for me :good: Bad news is I'm really worried about it happening again now that I've seen how easy it occurs.
Even if replacement screens became available in the future how would a replacement be possible without compromising the water proof design of the phone?
airbus318 said:
... I'm really worried about it happening again now that I've seen how easy it occurs.
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Get a case. Its like cheap insurance.
This is the first time that I heard of such case
airbus318 said:
You wouldn't believe how it happened either. I was using my tie to quickly remove a smudge before showing it off to someone. My tie has a small pin on it. While wiping lightly with the tip of my tie, an edge of my decorative pin slide across where the glass meets the opening of the microphone area (bottom) caught and edge and cracked it right there. Ya I know, the odds of it catching right there! This happened in an aircraft up at altitude, my screen was still use-able. Once we descended though (pressure increased) 4 almost uniform cracks spread out in a 'V' from the center of the microphone area and now my screen is completely useless and can't unlock it or even power the damn thing off.
I am shocked that it took so little effort though to break this glass. I am thankful though that literally the day before I completed an entire backup to SD card via the included Sony backup/restore app.
Now what.
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At least we can conclude now that it wasn't because we removed out anti shatter sheet, since you still have yours on.
Bonta768 said:
Get a case. Its like cheap insurance.
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It has nothing to do with the case, but with either pressure difference and/or the temperature changing rapidly.
You can get replacement glass at:
rounded.com/xperia-z-l36h/
It is a bit expensive though
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Thanks for the link, I'm surprised replacement parts are available so quickly but regarding the repair I'm inclined to think that opening this phone up would compromise it and never be water proof again.
So I got my new replacement today. I had done a FULL backup with the included backup/restore app to my SD card in the old phone. I placed into new phone and ran restore immediately after initial setup.
My question is, it seems like I got most of my stuff back, but I'm confused about a few things. My home screen and other pages are still stock, ie it did not reorganize my widgets and apps the way I had them and my google accounts were NOT added that I was syncing previously. I did get my apps, (in the app drawer) and my texts/contacts though.
Am I missing something?
Another cracked glass from my father this time, out of the pocket and onto the bedside table and "tick" glass crack!
really pissing me off! I convinced everyone in my family to get this phone cause I thought it was awesome, now we are all paying the price. And I feel responsible.
$100 for a replacement is not good enough, Sony should be sending replacements out for free! Please post if anyone finds replacement glass for a reasonable price ($40 or less)
Now that the glass cracking threads are popping up I want to remind that heat differences are deadly to Gorilla Glass.
It has happened on lots of devices, mostly aluminum builds, like the Transformer Prime TF201 http://crackformerprime.blogspot.se/
Had one, and well. It's a 4 RMA story, and I've discouraged all aluminum-built devices ever since.
Aluminum cools - Quad core CPU heats, and lots of interesting glass strain may occur. Having said that, I'm curious when the aluminum-unibody HTC One owners pick up on this.
I'll update my guide to urge people to apply any provided protective back/screen protectors (if) provided with the Xperia Z. It aids uniform heat dissipation across the glass, minimizing chances for cracks.
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airbus318 said:
So I got my new replacement today. I had done a FULL backup with the included backup/restore app to my SD card in the old phone. I placed into new phone and ran restore immediately after initial setup.
My question is, it seems like I got most of my stuff back, but I'm confused about a few things. My home screen and other pages are still stock, ie it did not reorganize my widgets and apps the way I had them and my google accounts were NOT added that I was syncing previously. I did get my apps, (in the app drawer) and my texts/contacts though.
Am I missing something?
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Official backup application does not backup account credentials, launcher layout, nor most system settings. Else it would be considered a security flaw.
To perform full system backups you need to root you phone, and use a real backup application like Titanium Backup
Thanks Supersaiyan.IV, I've just rooted and will back up this way from here on.
Guys with cracked glass are you using a screen protector? Ifso, with or w/o the anti shatter film? OR are you using the phone w/o a screen protector with or w/o the anti shatter film? Thanks!
Mine was stock, ie, no protectors, original anti shatter film left on.
India is a primarily hot country, so nothing's gonna happen due to temperature differences here.
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airbus318 said:
Thanks for the link, I'm surprised replacement parts are available so quickly but regarding the repair I'm inclined to think that opening this phone up would compromise it and never be water proof again.
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http://www.parts4repair.com/complet...h&adtype=pla&gclid=CP650rf4rbYCFUlcpQod8gQAEg
New Sony Z owner
Hi Guys would you recommend one to install the screen protector on top of the factory installed anti shutter sheet??
LT nicles said:
Hi Guys would you recommend one to install the screen protector on top of the factory installed anti shutter sheet??
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I would! the anti shatter film scratches easily and once it's scratched you will have to remove it or live with the damage.
Also removing the anti shatter film removes the sony logo.
Hi, I think there is many threads about the screen protector that comes with the Xperia Z. But I don't very conviced about "anti-shatter film", it means that the film will protect the screen and back for drops, right?
Unfortunately my Xperia's box does't come with extra screen protector, and now, my front and back are too scratched (I don't like the cellphone's covers) and I want to put them off and replace them, maybe with something like these:
spigen.com/sony-xperia-z-screen-protector-glas-t-premium-tempered-glass.html
(I can't put links, sorry)
So I know that the Sony logo are branded into the film (I read in some threads and there are Xperia Z with the logo printed in the screen, I think this is all about luck) . I'm very careless and my cellphone drops from my hands almost everyday (It is a good phone , I'm very destroyer...). And my question is that if I replace this film with other it will be keep the same drop resistance?
Thanks.
PD: Someone know if is possible to get screen protectors branded with the Sony logo?
The screen protector applied by Sony doesn't protect your screen to break or get scratches. It is meant to hold the screen in place if it breaks so the screen doesn't fall apart or you can hurt yourself.
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Like Drei said, it's not an actual resistor of force. It'll break just as easily as any others I'd wager.
Like with any phone though I've heard people have it from from their hand while sitting down and it cracked, or people who've dropped it from the second story of a house and landed on a fountain screen first and survived.
Sadly the screen protector for the Xperia Z is nothing but your own safety from pieces of glass. I'm not sure if there's been any coverage on it since I last checked, but the screen for the Xperia Z itself is quite dirty - in the sense it picks up finger prints like no other phone, so if you're taking off the protector replace it I guess.
Thanks!
Thanks a lot! So I will buy new ones.
Xperia z1 have a screen protetor, some people said than after take away screen is better, anyone already try?
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matheus_sc said:
Xperia z1 have a screen protetor, some people said than after take away screen is better, anyone already try?
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you can ask this guy in the comments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzxq-90NUIY
matheus_sc said:
Xperia z1 have a screen protetor, some people said than after take away screen is better, anyone already try?
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I removed the original screen protector and bought a new one on ebay. Definently less fingerprints.
Lucian5800 said:
I removed the original screen protector and bought a new one on ebay. Definently less fingerprints.
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I will do that, thanks for that.
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Lucian5800 said:
I removed the original screen protector and bought a new one on ebay. Definently less fingerprints.
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How you remove the stock protector?
Like the guy from the video with scalpel or another way?
I'm afraid not to damage the screen while I removing it
I don. t get why would anyone remove Sony shatter proof screen protector...
I just don't, there won't be any real difference in screen quality. Only difference is that you will loose some protection. And if you are worried about fingerprints, oh please. Just put another screen protector on top of it..
DefunctiO said:
I don. t get why would anyone remove Sony shatter proof screen protector...
I just don't
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Because is shattered?
matheus_sc said:
Xperia z1 have a screen protetor, some people said than after take away screen is better, anyone already try?
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I took it off both my Z and Z1. The sony ASF has an adhesive on it which I think affects screen quality I mean how can't it. I find I have better contrast without them. Plus the phone looks more monolithic without the sony logo. But there have been discussion about loss of warranty once you remove it.
bodson66 said:
I took it off both my Z and Z1. The sony ASF has an adhesive on it which I think affects screen quality I mean how can't it. I find I have better contrast without them. Plus the phone looks more monolithic without the sony logo. But there have been discussion about loss of warranty once you remove it.
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i already do'nt warranty, so for you is better?
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i already do'nt warranty, so for you is better?
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I found it to be better, but I'm not saying its a huge difference but i do find it to be better
I'm really close to removing mine. It scratches so easily! Never had a phone that got this many scratches in a week and it's not like i'm doing anything out of the ordinary with it.
Why put super tough glass on the phone and then cover it with a film that scratches?
white lie said:
I'm really close to removing mine. It scratches so easily! Never had a phone that got this many scratches in a week and it's not like i'm doing anything out of the ordinary with it.
Why put super tough glass on the phone and then cover it with a film that scratches?
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you are not alone, many of us have wondered why they do this. Every other manufacturer seems to have this anti shatter built into their screens. I'm not sure if its because sony doesn't use gorilla glass or some thing. The only this to remember that after you remove it the glass doesnt have an oleophobic coating. The ASF also leave a kind of stick residue. I use nail polish remover to get it all off. Then put a glass screen protector over top of it to give the that coating.
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bodson66 said:
you are not alone, many of us have wondered why they do this. Every other manufacturer seems to have this anti shatter built into their screens. I'm not sure if its because sony doesn't use gorilla glass or some thing. The only this to remember that after you remove it the glass doesnt have an oleophobic coating. The ASF also leave a kind of stick residue. I use nail polish remover to get it all off. Then put a glass screen protector over top of it to give the that coating.
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Also my Xperia ZL when I took it off still had the sony logo etched on so same question why sony why
Do you know if the back anti shatter film also has Sony logo on it?
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I'm interested too. I do not think will void the warranty unless you destroy your screen.
My question is, once you remove it what will you apply on your screen? I tried every good film screen protectors and no one is really oleophobic and without reducing the screen quality. Also seems on the market there aren't films or tempered glass without holes for the camera and sensors which I think is very annoying since they'll become dust magnets. Suggestions?
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I removed Sony SP from my Xperia S and I didn't get anything...
No better contrast, not even better or precise touch.
But XS don't have Sony logo on SP it's on the glass... I just applied invisible screen protector from eBay (applying with water) and I still use that phone...
But I won't peel SP from Z1 - I just applied same protector (Invisible SP) front and will soon apply one to back and it's awesome...
For me, there's no reason for peeling original SP down...
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If anything goes wrong in the future and you have to send back your device to customer service they'll say that warranty is lost... or they'll charge you extra money.
Personaly I bought Muvit Matt screen protection and I have no more fingerprint, the feeling is different from, for example, the Spigen Crystal Clear one which has a good feeling when touching the screen but with its fingerprint counterpart!
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i already do'nt warranty
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If you say that because of BL unlock then it is not sure warranty is 100% lost Sony' s unlock BL website says :
Please note that you may void the warranty of your device and/or any warranty from your operator if you unlock the boot loader
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I know it's sounds weird that removing a plastic layer (which is a kind of physical protection) will void warranty and not totally for a bootloader unlock but that's their position for now...
babylonbwoy said:
If anything goes wrong in the future and you have to send back your device to customer service they'll say that warranty is lost... or they'll charge you extra money.
Personaly I bought Muvit Matt screen protection and I have no more fingerprint, the feeling is different from, for example, the Spigen Crystal Clear one which has a good feeling when touching the screen but with its fingerprint counterpart!
If you say that because of BL unlock then it is not sure warranty is 100% lost Sony' s unlock BL website says :
I know it's sounds weird that removing a plastic layer (which is a kind of physical protection) will void warranty and not totally for a bootloader unlock but that's their position for now...
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This is untrue
I have returned my xperia T phone for a cracked screen after taking off the factory fitted screen protector and I got replacement with no questions asked
This is in the UK
I have also never seen it written on a sony website or contract that this will void warrenty
gregbradley said:
This is untrue
I have returned my xperia T phone for a cracked screen after taking off the factory fitted screen protector and I got replacement with no questions asked
This is in the UK
I have also never seen it written on a sony website or contract that this will void warrenty
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We asked a Sony rep (or a community manager) in french forum and that's what he told us.
Now I guess it depend on the service center or the country.
Also I don't know if it is the same policy for T and the Z line (waterproof, all glass etc) ?
Anyway maybe I'm wrong but I still won't take the risk.
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We asked a Sony rep (or a community manager) in french forum and that's what he told us.
Now I guess it depend on the service center or the country.
Also I don't know if it is the same policy for T and the Z line?
Anyway maybe I'm wrong but I still won't take the risk.
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yes, it may be country specific but I have the same contract on my Z1 as I did with my T
Plus unlocking the bootloader definitely voids warranty so if you have done that you may as well take it off
I asked on sony xperia twitter account, we'll see if they reply.
For the BL I just report what's on their site, the use of "may void" is different of just "void", I guess they have a tons of advocates who carefully pays attention to each word used on their site.
I remember a while back reading something about Arc S (here on XDA) where they said that if the repair has nothing to do with the BL unlock then the warranty still works.
If your T was unlocked and they repaired the screen for free that means warranty worked even if the screen has nothing to do with BL unlock...?
Hi Guys,
This is my first post on XDA, I have a problem with my Z1, recently I remove ASF protector from my phone, now my phone seem too sensitive, when I touch my phone with my hands thats slightly wet, either from sweat or water (yes, my hands sweaty, and very often) screen like register my previous touch and screw my touch.
Is this hardware failure? can I claim warranty? or this is is common on the ASF removed phone.
Thanks.
You removed the ASF then you warranty is void and you cannot claim for it. Now the solution on your problem is just only one, Apply a Classic Screen Protector.
nyongrand said:
Hi Guys,
This is my first post on XDA, I have a problem with my Z1, recently I remove ASF protector from my phone, now my phone seem too sensitive, when I touch my phone with my hands thats slightly wet, either from sweat or water (yes, my hands sweaty, and very often) screen like register my previous touch and screw my touch.
Is this hardware failure? can I claim warranty? or this is is common on the ASF removed phone.
Thanks.
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Well regardless of the cause or whether this is a defect, you voided your warranty the second you took off the ASF. (At least that has been what has been very commonly reported on xda since day 1.... I've never asked Sony myself)
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eclyptos said:
You removed the ASF then you warranty is void and you cannot claim for it. Now the solution on your problem is just only one, Apply a Classic Screen Protector.
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301stSpartan said:
Well regardless of the cause or whether this is a defect, you voided your warranty the second you took off the ASF. (At least that has been what has been very commonly reported on xda since day 1.... I've never asked Sony myself)
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OK, so i guest this is not hardware related, thanks everyone