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My first thread was in the Desire section and we got on the topic of the Nexus One not being sold through Google anymore but now its dead all together There's an article on mashable dot com that tells how its all being halted.
http://www.mobilemag.com/2010/07/18/google-to-stop-selling-the-nexus-one/
It was widely heralded as the first real “Google Phone” and now it will soon be laid out to pasture. If you were hoping to get your hands on the Google Nexus One smartphone, I highly suggest you do it very soon, because Google has placed its final order with HTC for the device. After stock from this shipment is depleted Google will no longer be selling the Nexus One through its official online store. Nada. No more. Kaput. You have plenty of other options in the Android realm, like the HTC Droid Incredible, but the Nexus One holds a special place in cell phone history.
That’s the bad news, but there are two smaller tidbits of good news. First, Google will continue to offer support through its customer service lines. So, if you already have one of these devices in hand, you can still get help when you need it. Second, Google is looking for a way to continue selling the Nexus One through a sales partner, but these sales will be restricted to registered app developers.
I guess you go out and buy just about any other Google Android device offered through your carrier of choice, but those oftentimes contain some carrier-specific doo-dahs. The Nexus One is, as far as we can tell, the only true clean-slate and completely unlocked Android that you can get on a very official basis.
tin_can_ said:
My first thread was in the Desire section and we got on the topic of the Nexus One not being sold through Google anymore but now its dead all together There's an article on mashable dot com that tells how its all being halted.
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And it's complete nonsense, as is the other exact same thread as this one.
Not hardly dead...Still plenty of life & development in our Nexus
tin_can_ said:
My first thread was in the Desire section and we got on the topic of the Nexus One not being sold through Google anymore but now its dead all together There's an article on mashable dot com that tells how its all being halted.
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For f**k's sake, stop trolling the panic.
How many topics a day do we need about this?!
FOR THE LAST F*CKING TIME:
Nexus One's ONLY purpose and the SOLE reason for existence was to promote android and show what it can do on a good hardware. They planned to have Nexus 2 to continue pushing android. Since so many companies like HTC/Motorola/Samsung jumped on an Android band-wagon, Google officially stopped Nexus TWO development and slowing down (NOT STOPPED!!!!!!!) Nexus One sales.
As per Google's CEO own words, "NEXUS ONE WAS SO SUCCESSFULL, THAT WE DON'T NEED NEXUS TWO."
If your brain is so tiny that it can't understand that Nexus One was a huge success for what it was intended for, and that Google NEVER intended to make money on phones directly, then I beg you, please go hang out on iPhone forums where you'll find your kin.
Jesus holy Christ.
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I sold my Nexus on Craigslist on Friday. Bought a Vibrant Thursday. After holding that phone for 1 second I knew I had to have it. Screen was downright AMAZING! I love what the Nexus gave me but this is the nature of technology and you can lament it or accept it.
They saying shouldn't be "if you've got nothinng nice to say, say nothing at all" it should be "if you're an idiot, stop talking".
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For f**k's sake, stop trolling the panic.
How many topics a day do we need about this?!
FOR THE LAST F*CKING TIME:
Nexus One's ONLY purpose and the SOLE reason for existence was to promote android and show what it can do on a good hardware. They planned to have Nexus 2 to continue pushing android. Since so many companies like HTC/Motorola/Samsung jumped on an Android band-wagon, Google officially stopped Nexus TWO development and slowing down (NOT STOPPED!!!!!!!) Nexus One sales.
As per Google's CEO own words, "NEXUS ONE WAS SO SUCCESSFULL, THAT WE DON'T NEED NEXUS TWO."
If your brain is so tiny that it can't understand that Nexus One was a huge success for what it was intended for, and that Google NEVER intended to make money on phones directly, then I beg you, please go hang out on iPhone forums where you'll find your kin.
Jesus holy Christ.
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DarkDvr may I have another?
Took the words right out of my mouth...
That's good news, if the phone won't be available discounted through carriers, it will remain rare!!!! A true gem!
As long as we're be able to run Gingerbread when it's released it would keep me happy for many more months
Actually you can still buy one, you just have to pay $25 for the developer channel i think.
I love the Nexus 7 and in fact, I love the Nexus line of devices. Now, when we all start to compare the Nexus 7 to The New iPad as a iPad killer, it begins to look like a case of fan boyishly hatred. Please! No off topic comments...thanks!
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Now! You might be asking why am I posting this? And here is the simple answer, because I don't want some girl or boy, man, women and child to read the none fact threads and believe there is no reason to buy a Apple device when there are great reasons to do so...
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Until Apple releases their version of a 7" tablet, I think it's a bit unfair to try and compare the two, or say one is a killer of the other device. I think they target two separate markets that have plenty of room for both.
The only thing that's Killer is whatever a company does to themselves. The iPad is going to be healthy for quite a long time, I believe.
Sorry, but these threads almost always end badly
Nexus 7 review - ipad killer, for me at least
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I guess its good its now 'legal' to unlock our phones but not the tablets?
Congress making laws of nothing they know about... sounds sorta familiar..
How will this effect the xda community if at all?
Under cover cops trolling xda? haha
How will it even be enforced?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...ed-phone-unlocks-will-be-a-thing-of-the-past/
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Reading that made my brain hurt and one more reason to add to my mile long list I made a while back of why I will never buy anything but a Nexus again. (The Galaxy Tab was my last foray into getting robbed)
Yeah, good luck with them catching anyone unlocking their tablets unless they are on a data plan.
And since I can make phone calls with my N7, is it technically a phone????
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Good luck policing this one unless they start shipping them from the factory unable to unlock. Seriously these lawmakers can go eat a d1ck, all this bs they are doing is just in the name of money.
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Also wtf, " For example, an ebook reading device might be considered a “tablet,” as might a handheld video game device or a laptop computer." Can you be more broad when it comes to description? I guess you can't because then you would be Apple. :silly:
If a tablet has a 3g modem is it a phone then or a tablet? Have fun trying to classify these things, especially when tablets are just blown up phones with or without the modem. Our government is morons.
Google allows the unlocking of their devices, so you have nothing to worry about as long as you buy nexus. Even if you don't buy a nexus device, I don't see how the law could be properly enforced. I wouldn't worry.
I'll do what I want.
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JohnnyHempseed said:
Google allows the unlocking of their devices, so you have nothing to worry about as long as you buy nexus. Even if you don't but a nexus device, I don't see how the law could be properly enforced. I wouldn't worry.
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doesn't even have to be a nexus device, any android device is safe since it's open source from Google.
Plus unlike Apple, don't see Google suing anyone for unlocking or rooting their os.
Google allows us to unlock...pretty darn easily actually.
What's gonna happen when root methods are provided outside the US?
IMO the whole thing is stupid. I have paid for ALL my apps, and I refuse to use ANY Android device without root access. So why am I being punished?
I HATE ADS, and have no problem paying for apps to not have ads. However if a paid version isn't available, then I still want my ads blocked...
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dilldoe said:
doesn't even have to be a nexus device, any android device is safe since it's open source from Google.
Plus unlike Apple, don't see Google suing anyone for unlocking or rooting their os.
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Google encourages us to play with at least their nexus devices. That was the entire point of having the USB port on the Nexus Q.
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So many bigger issues Congress needs to be worried about than what people are doing with their electronic devices.
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So iphones are allowed to be jailbroken and the main reason users jailbrake them is so they can use pirate apps. Yep this makes sense.....
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Much ado about nothing.
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ccrows said:
What's gonna happen when root methods are provided outside the US?
IMO the whole thing is stupid. I have paid for ALL my apps, and I refuse to use ANY Android device without root access. So why am I being punished?
I HATE ADS, and have no problem paying for apps to not have ads. However if a paid version isn't available, then I still want my ads blocked...
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What about apps by developers from countries that don't have the luck to be included in the merchant account list? Their only way to monetize their hard work is ads and using their apps with ads blockers is not fair at all. If you hate ads that much, please stop using the apps that are supported by them.
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ccrows said:
What's gonna happen when root methods are provided outside the US?
IMO the whole thing is stupid. I have paid for ALL my apps, and I refuse to use ANY Android device without root access. So why am I being punished?
I HATE ADS, and have no problem paying for apps to not have ads. However if a paid version isn't available, then I still want my ads blocked...
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I agree with this.
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dparrothead1 said:
Yeah, good luck with them catching anyone unlocking their tablets unless they are on a data plan.
And since I can make phone calls with my N7, is it technically a phone????
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Yeah, since my Nexus 7 is wifi only, how does unlocking it violate carrier rights? It's not a phone, it's a wifi tablet. Unlocking and rooting gives me access to all the hardware and features of the software, which I have rights to as the licensee. If they don't want you to have access to the full ability of the OS, they should remove it. If it's there, then it's mine to use per the license.
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So many bigger issues Congress needs to be worried about than what people are doing with their electronic devices.
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Once those in power are ready to take over the world, they'll need more than just gun control laws to round up the masses for reeducation. Phone and tab modification should give them the reason to round up several more million citizens for reeducation.
Worry when the next Android release is called "Soma".
Now were did I place my tinfoil hat again?....
murray68w said:
I guess its good its now 'legal' to unlock our phones but not the tablets?
Congress making laws of nothing they know about... sounds sorta familiar..
How will this effect the xda community if at all?
Under cover cops trolling xda? haha
How will it even be enforced?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...ed-phone-unlocks-will-be-a-thing-of-the-past/
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I read thru all the below comments.. This new law does not make it legal to unlock your device. It puts the control into the hands of your devices carrier as to rather you can unlock it or not. Now the carriers all just need to do like at&t has been firm on.Just say NO unlocked devices allowed on there Network.. This is a step back word in my opinion. I hear about people all the time jail breaking there i phone or ipad to side load pirated apps. They say i tunes charge to much for them. But the android community STRONGLY screams to everyone to pay the developers for the apps. Android apps are reasonable priced as well. This is due to the developer having more control and giving less money to google.. I think this will be the way into the future.To make devices and phones even more disposable.. I so hope google stands up and puts this crap away.
If xda follows this new law. They will have to take down every hack for every tablet and get permission from phone carriers to post the ability to unlock and root phones on there networks.. NEXUS Phones tied to a carrier follows the same laws .
if i read incorrectly please explain to me..
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I read thru all the below comments.. This new law does not make it legal to unlock your device. It puts the control into the hands of your devices carrier as to rather you can unlock it or not. Now the carriers all just need to do like at&t has been firm on.Just say NO unlocked devices allowed on there Network.. This is a step back word in my opinion. I hear about people all the time jail breaking there i phone or ipad to side load pirated apps. They say i tunes charge to much for them. But the android community STRONGLY screams to everyone to pay the developers for the apps. Android apps are reasonable priced as well. This is due to the developer having more control and giving less money to google.. I think this will be the way into the future.To make devices and phones even more disposable.. I so hope google stands up and puts this crap away.
If xda follows this new law. They will have to take down every hack for every tablet and get permission from phone carriers to post the ability to unlock and root phones on there networks.. NEXUS Phones tied to a carrier follows the same laws .
if i read incorrectly please explain to me..
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Not quite correct. This just means that carrier unlocking is no longer exempted from the DMCA. In other words, OEMs can sue folks that post a narrow scope of exploits. This pretty much is a moot point considering that the only OEM that was doing this was Apple and the Jesus Phone is no longer exclusive to big blue. As there never was an exemption specific to tablets, nothing there has changed. DMCA exemptions are reviewed and revised every three years.
There's a lot of hystronics and FUD going on about this, driven partly by a desire to generate traffic to certain sites I'm sure. In the end, it is just as I said before... much ado about nothing. The sky is not any closer to falling than it was twelve months ago.
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Not quite correct. This just means that carrier unlocking is no longer exempted from the DMCA. In other words, OEMs can sue folks that post a narrow scope of exploits. This pretty much is a moot point considering that the only OEM that was doing this was Apple and the Jesus Phone is no longer exclusive to big blue. As there never was an exemption specific to tablets, nothing there has changed. DMCA exemptions are reviewed and revised every three years.
There's a lot of hystronics and FUD going on about this, driven partly by a desire to generate traffic to certain sites I'm sure. In the end, it is just as I said before... much ado about nothing. The sky is not any closer to falling than it was twelve months ago.
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Amen to that. The panic in threads like this...along with the unfounded rage... is astounding.
Many people have been toying with the idea that, the Nexus 4, being a Nexus device, could be riddled with bugs and glitches at the time of release, and thus have only placed a small amount of stock for sale so those issues only stay among a small amount of people.
The guys at Google, instead of testing for hours on end, let the public do so, and then check up on sites, like this one, for issues people have with the phone and thus fix it up. This could explain why the Bumpers are already stocked, but the phones themselves are looking to be released Black Friday, several days after, and this time, with a whole lot more stock as they have to take into account the back orders, as well poor guys like me who missed out.
What are your thoughts on this?
Wouldn't that be unfair to the people who managed to buy it out first? I mean they are essentially paying the same amount for a phone that is supposed to have the kinks sorted out already, not pay to have a phone in beta testing. But I really hope this is the case, and Google not only sorts out these issues but also offers compensation to the early adopters as to make everyone happy and fair!
Tin Foil Hat time for you i think...
Where did you see stocked bumpers?
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Google Play.
Google Play, mate.
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Google Play, mate.
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It's sold out in the US Google Play store...
If that's true then we'll be seeing an update from Google shortly after the second batch go out?
Negative, the nexus one was the trial run.
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Doubtful. I just don't think Google anticipated it being quite so popular. Worst of all, they allowed you to purchase up to 5 in one hit, which more then a handful of people did. 1-2 max on launch and up to a week or two after in my opinion. This would have ensured 'a lot' more people actually got a phone and it would have stopped eBay being flooded with N4's by people looking to make a quick buck.
Every nexus phone is trails . We get it test it Google updates other OEM make there phones with the new version. As far are you tin foil hat about a multi billion dollar company not testing I doubt that
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How could the 4th generation of anything be a test run?
Tinfoil Hattery abounds in the General forum. It's a conspiracy I tells ya!
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Many people have been toying with the idea that, the Nexus 4, being a Nexus device, could be riddled with bugs and glitches at the time of release, and thus have only placed a small amount of stock for sale so those issues only stay among a small amount of people.
The guys at Google, instead of testing for hours on end, let the public do so, and then check up on sites, like this one, for issues people have with the phone and thus fix it up. This could explain why the Bumpers are already stocked, but the phones themselves are looking to be released Black Friday, several days after, and this time, with a whole lot more stock as they have to take into account the back orders, as well poor guys like me who missed out.
What are your thoughts on this?
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lol, no
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We, the public, being beta testers for Google products? Pffft!
No place for this type of speculation on this board. If you have news, tips, tricks, guides, or howtos, feel free to post. This type of stuff is more suited for your blog.
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I just read this article on Gizmodo.... I am curious to get the XDA peeps opinion.
Google Has Killed Android (the Brand)
http://gizmodo.com/5986229/
Not a big deal to me. just bring on key lime pie.
Many people already call them "Google Phone" so yeah...
Non sense...
Only one qn..do u want a good os or keep up the brand name ??
Btw android was nothing till google came into picture.. nobody even knew there was such a thing..if somebody make that this public better appreciate them..
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anuseb89 said:
Non sense...
Only one qn..do u want a good os or keep up the brand name ??
Btw android was nothing till google came into picture.. nobody even knew there was such a thing..if somebody make that this public better appreciate them..
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Exactly who cares what they call it
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I personally can care less BUT I do get annoyed when people call them Droids.
Yeah, don't care what they call it. Google phone sounds ok to me.
Nothing but clickbait
A incompetent writer wrote a sensationalist article with a sensationalist title to get more clicks. Just look at his older articles.
Who would have thunk?
edit: A "more" correct title will be "Google kills Android as a brand name".
Was that written by a 7th grader?
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Jess813 said:
I personally can care less BUT I do get annoyed when people call them Droids.
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I do too, but that's because 'Droids" are verizon-rebranded and they are historically gigantic piles of crap. I feel like comparing my nexus 4 to any phone verizon has called a droid is just an outright insult, honestly.
On the flipside, though, if a phone runs android or any android distro I use the blanket android term, similarly to how I use the term linux box for any pc running any linux distro
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Was that written by a 7th grader?
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Apparently it's by an "CEO".
More blog noise.
What a non-story that is.
:rollseyes:
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I was under the impression that they were killing the OS...
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I was under the impression that they were killing the OS...
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Me also lol
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That was easily one of the stupidest things I've ever read
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woody296 said:
Not a big deal to me. just bring on key lime pie.
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Mmmm PiE
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Jess813 said:
Google Has Killed Android (the Brand)[
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You kind of have to look at Google's motives for Android in the first place. They saw the importance of the future of mobile and that iOS was in the process of owning it. They launched Android primarily to protect their advertising sales business and then started monetizing content sales through Play. So if their motivation is advertising and content sales what difference does it make whose name is on the physical device or if people know their device is "Android?" I'm sure they aren't pleased with the forking taking place (Amazon) or the overlays being added that F-up the update process (100MM Galaxy's sold) but at the end of the day their well positioned in mobile and raking in tons of profit from mobile advertising and content sales. Google makes the same in those categories whether the masses buy a “Galaxy,” “HTC Sense,” or a Nexus where Android’s still fairly prominent.
“Galaxy” now leads “Android” as a smartphone search term which kind of tells you what volume and marketing does for consumer brand awareness. Samsung Electronics spent $12B in marketing and promotion in 2012. HTC’s market capitalization (the value of the entire company) is only $8B. That amount of marketing spend buys you a lot of aided and unaided brand awareness.
"Samsung ‘Galaxy' has become a more popular search term than Android for web users searching for information about Android-powered smartphones, highlighting many handset makers' fears that Samsung is becoming bigger than the other Android manufacturers and that the smartphone market is slowly becoming a two-handset, rather than an operating systems, race."
http://www.hindustantimes.com/techn...s-Galaxy-not-Android/SP-Article1-1009843.aspx
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You kind of have to look at Google's motives for Android in the first place. They saw the importance of the future of mobile and that iOS was in the process of owning it. They launched Android primarily to protect their advertising sales business and then started monetizing content sales through Play. So if their motivation is advertising and content sales what difference does it make whose name is on the physical device or if people know their device is "Android?" I'm sure they aren't pleased with the forking taking place (Amazon) or the overlays being added that F-up the update process (100MM Galaxy's sold) but at the end of the day their well positioned in mobile and raking in tons of profit from mobile advertising and content sales. Google makes the same in those categories whether the masses buy a “Galaxy,” “HTC Sense,” or a Nexus where Android’s still fairly prominent.
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You need to look at this long term. Samsung definitely has the ambitions to become a new apple, i.e. build "their own ecosystem". OS (Tizen), advertising, app store etc etc.
As they already have hooked enough of users on their brand/touch wiz, next step will be to release tizen and make sure there is a certain mass of critical apps and after this samsung can start migrating users over.
Users don't give a damn if it is android/qnx/tizen/firefox os or whatever. As long as it looks the same and feels the same. Which what touchwiz is for.
So I guess el goog will need to do something if it is already not too late. Sadly the motorola is not the solution.