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Hi all, I'm at a loss here as I've tried everything I could think of. I've completely reflashed everything using fastboot to the stock 4.4.2 image, wiped userdata and cache and when I go to install the system update I get an error and it's unsuccessful. What am I missing or doing wrong? Thx
hlaalu said:
Hi all, I'm at a loss here as I've tried everything I could think of. I've completely reflashed everything using fastboot to the stock 4.4.2 image, wiped userdata and cache and when I go to install the system update I get an error and it's unsuccessful. What am I missing or doing wrong? Thx
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Just use the FXZ instead....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fxz-moto-x-4-4-4-212-55-26-t2827307
@hlaalu : EDIT - WAIT. I assumed you were on the Verizon DEV editon.
On the GSM Unlocked Dev edition??? Don't flash that FXZ!
What device are you on???
samwathegreat said:
Just use the FXZ instead....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fxz-moto-x-4-4-4-212-55-26-t2827307
@hlaalu : EDIT - WAIT. I assumed you were on the Verizon DEV editon.
On the GSM Unlocked Dev edition??? Don't flash that FXZ!
What device are you on???
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I AM on Verizon, thanks for checking. I have no idea what the FXZ is but I'm a little concerned with the big red warning.
hlaalu said:
I AM on Verizon, thanks for checking. I have no idea what the FXZ is but I'm a little concerned with the big red warning.
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HAHA! Just between you and me -- EVERY FLASHABLE FILE on XDA should have that warning. The problem is that people fail to read or follow instructions. They will flash wrong carrier's roms, attempt to downgrade, etc. Either of which can end up bricking your device - in a heartbeat.
Anyways that FXZ is the FULL factory image -- straight from Motorola, signed with release keys. There's nothing safer. Flashing the FXZ is much safer even than taking the OTA, because it actually replaces (and hence can repair a corrupted/damaged filesystem) all partitions instead of just doing an incremental update (like an OTA).
This particular FXZ is a "keep data" FXZ, meaning it will do the same thing as the OTA - only difference is you will need to re-root afterwards. All your data will still be intact. If you are using Xposed, you will also need to re-install it, but any modules you had installed will keep their respective settings.
Good Luck. That is EXACTLY what you need...
samwathegreat said:
HAHA! Just between you and me -- EVERY FLASHABLE FILE on XDA should have that warning. The problem is that people fail to read or follow instructions. They will flash wrong carrier's roms, attempt to downgrade, etc. Either of which can end up bricking your device - in a heartbeat.
Anyways that FXZ is the FULL factory image -- straight from Motorola, signed with release keys. There's nothing safer. Flashing the FXZ is much safer even than taking the OTA, because it actually replaces (and hence can repair a corrupted/damaged filesystem) all partitions instead of just doing an incremental update (like an OTA).
This particular FXZ is a "keep data" FXZ, meaning it will do the same thing as the OTA - only difference is you will need to re-root afterwards. All your data will still be intact. If you are using Xposed, you will also need to re-install it, but any modules you had installed will keep their respective settings.
Good Luck. That is EXACTLY what you need...
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Thanks I'll give that a shot. Too bad I didn't see this earlier, all my data has been wiped...repeatedly lol. Custom recovery will still be flashed using fastboot after FXZ?
hlaalu said:
Thanks I'll give that a shot. Too bad I didn't see this earlier, all my data has been wiped...repeatedly lol. Custom recovery will still be flashed using fastboot after FXZ?
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Precisely. After successfully booted to android (and you verify all is well), go back to bootloader, and:
fastboot flash twrpfilename.img
(get the latest version here: http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/ghost )
Then immediately after flashing it, type:
fastboot reboot-bootloader
then VOL DOWN to Recovery, and VOL UP to enter it. Once in, click exit. It will offer to root for you.....
(you MUST enter into TWRP immediately after flashing it [before booting into android again] -- if you don't it won't "stick" and will revert to stock recovery. As long as you immediately boot into TWRP after flashing it, it will "stick" forever....or until you flash something else to recovery. It is unknown why this happens, but the solution is easy enough....)
Up and running again, thanks a bunch for all the help!
Is there a way to sideload the 5.1 update (downloaded from the google images page) without losing the CF root AND not losing any of my system settings and configurations?
Thanks in advance.
LordGrahf said:
Is there a way to sideload the 5.1 update (downloaded from the google images page) without losing the CF root AND not losing any of my system settings and configurations?
Thanks in advance.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/using-image-to-update-nexus-6-data-loss-t3053158
Edit after rereading this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008 I would prob also do the reboot step after radio flash.
Maybe what your lookin for. If rooting is lost simply redo the cf root process and flash your custom recovery via fastboot. Most importantly this route will prevent data loss. I am going this route but will still backup because its safer and more responsible.
Without a modified img, and using the google provided stuff, you can't keep root. Just re-root, it's not hard.
Thanks guys. Few questions:
1. Do I need to unroot before sideloading the update?
2. Would I loose my currently installed and configured apps?
3. If I'm not losing my installed apps, what would happen to my root-required apps? For example I HAVE LMT pie control installed and configured. Would reinstalling root make it work as before without the need to reinstall and reconfigure LMT?
4. I'm still using stock recovery, would that affect what I'm trying to do in any way?
5. What is the minimal set of the update's images can I use to get this update? Like I think I should probably skip the user.img if I don't want my user settings to be wiped out, correct? What other images should I skip in order to not wipe out apps, apps settings, and system settings.
Thank you very much
LordGrahf said:
Thanks guys. Few questions:
1. Do I need to unroot before sideloading the update?
2. Would I loose my currently installed and configured apps?
3. If I'm not losing my installed apps, what would happen to my root-required apps? For example I HAVE LMT pie control installed and configured. Would reinstalling root make it work as before without the need to reinstall and reconfigure LMT?
4. I'm still using stock recovery, would that affect what I'm trying to do in any way?
5. What is the minimal set of the update's images can I use to get this update? Like I think I should probably skip the user.img if I don't want my user settings to be wiped out, correct? What other images should I skip in order to not wipe out apps, apps settings, and system settings.
Thank you very much
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If doing the fastboot way like I linked (I have not read through the procedure for sideload, so I don't know)
1) no
2) no if you only flash some of the IMG files. For your purpose it seems (I'm also assuming you don't have custom kernel) these are the ones to not lose data. Make sure you follow the links in how to flash this correctly with the appropriate order and spots where to fastboot reboot.
Bootloader image
Radio image
Boot image (kernel)
Cache image
System image
Recovery image
Then reroot with the cf zip like before then reinstall the su app.
4) no we flash the new stock recovery too
5) minimal, to not overwrite the user data, above. Yup we skip the user data image
LordGrahf said:
Thanks guys. Few questions:
1. Do I need to unroot before sideloading the update?
2. Would I loose my currently installed and configured apps?
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No.
LordGrahf said:
3. If I'm not losing my installed apps, what would happen to my root-required apps?
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You'll have to install su since it was deleted by system.img but that's all. Note that last time I looked CF-Auto still said it was 5.0.1 but ...
LordGrahf said:
4. I'm still using stock recovery, would that affect what I'm trying to do in any way?
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If you install a current TWRP it will install super-su for you when you request a reboot.
LordGrahf said:
5. What is the minimal set of the update's images can I use to get this update?
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Everything except user.img. You can read or run flash-base to get the Google suggested initial ordering.
MunkinDrunky said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/using-image-to-update-nexus-6-data-loss-t3053158
Edit after rereading this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008 I would prob also do the reboot step after radio flash.
Maybe what your lookin for. If rooting is lost simply redo the cf root process and flash your custom recovery via fastboot. Most importantly this route will prevent data loss. I am going this route but will still backup because its safer and more responsible.
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I flashed the bootloader, but the command to flash the radio (fastboot flash radio radio-shamu-d4.0-9625-02.95.img) failed
Any idea?
Nikos2k said:
I flashed the bootloader, but the command to flash the radio (fastboot flash radio radio-shamu-d4.0-9625-02.95.img) failed
Any idea?
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I don't really know. I usually just follow instructions. Did you fastboot reboot after flashing bootloader?
MunkinDrunky said:
I don't really know. I usually just follow instructions. Did you fastboot reboot after flashing bootloader?
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Yes, I rebooted the boot loader (and it indeed showed the new boot loader version after the reboot)
After the fail message of the radio flash command, I rebooted to the system, it works, and from the baseband number in settings/about, it seems that the new radio has been flashed (besides the fail message)
Nikos2k said:
Yes, I rebooted the boot loader (and it indeed showed the new boot loader version after the reboot)
After the fail message of the radio flash command, I rebooted to the system, it works, and from the baseband number in settings/about, it seems that the new radio has been flashed (besides the fail message)
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hmm yeah i really dont know why that happend. I guess as long as the new radio shows up as you say then it worked. I will actually be doing this shortly, since i am now at a computer
Just updated to 5.1
for those who will read later and more importantly in my same position.
I was on 5.0.1 BL unlocked, custom recovery+root, custom kernel- -wanting to go to->>5.1, root+custom recovery (cause flashing kernels is trivial) without any data loss (basically don't flash the userdata image) (also you could have left out the radio, I guess if you don't want newest radio, and the boot if you want to just keep your kernel--**not 100% about these two though)
I flashed via fastboot the: bootloader (then fastboot reboot-bootloader), the radio (then fastboot reboot-bootloader), then the boot (updated stock kernel), cache, system. Done, exit command prompt, then while in fastboot menu go into TWRP, whereby I choose system reboot and TWRP RE-ROOTS for me! Now I just kernel shop again
Thanks a lot gents. I followed the directions and upgraded/rerouted and none of my apps/settings got wiped. Yay!!
Can someone verify I'm on the latest versions for all components from my screenshot?
Thanks!
I also updated my Nexus 6 with 5.0.1, unlock and root, to 5.1 without losing data. I just had to re-root it afterwards.
I used Wugfresh Nexus root toolkit.
In short I used "Flash stock + unroot", in which I selected "Enable no-wipe" and "force-flash".
After this I rerooted the device from within NRT.
Worked like a charm!
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LordGrahf said:
Thanks a lot gents. I followed the directions and upgraded/rerouted and none of my apps/settings got wiped. Yay!!
Can someone verify I'm on the latest versions for all components from my screenshot?
Thanks!
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That's all the latest versions yes...
Many of you have heard by now that 5.1.1 is out, and we should receive an update soon on our stock rom Nexus 6. I just bought a Nexus 6 64gb, XT1103, and it is running the stock rom, rooted, and un-encrypted. I'm wondering if we'll lose root and un-encrypt if we take the update, and loose data if we re-unencrypt. What have your experiences been on the stock rom 5.1 update?
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Many of you have heard by now that 5.1.1 is out, and we should receive an update soon on our stock rom Nexus 6. I just bought a Nexus 6 64gb, XT1103, and it is running the stock rom, rooted, and un-encrypted. I'm wondering if we'll lose root and un-encrypt if we take the update, and loose data if we re-unencrypt. What have your experiences been on the stock rom 5.1 update?
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While the update will download, it will not install with root and an unencrypted kernel.
IF you want to take the OTA, then you will need to fastboot flash the boot.img and system.img from the factory image. Boot.img will encrypt your kernel, but you will not loose data (but you will have to factory reset, again, if you want to unencrypt, which will wipe data). Flashing the system.img will remove root and flash stock recovery.
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While the update will download, it will not install with root and an unencrypted kernel.
IF you want to take the OTA, then you will need to fastboot flash the boot.img and system.img from the factory image. Boot.img will encrypt your kernel, but you will not loose data (but you will have to factory reset, again, if you want to unencrypt, which will wipe data). Flashing the system.img will remove root and flash stock recovery.
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i think with root but encrypted will do the update
HitNrun_ said:
i think with root but encrypted will do the update
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Nope, not on Lollipop. Kitkat and before, yes. Not anymore.
cam30era said:
Nope, not on Lollipop. Kitkat and before, yes. Not anymore.
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so unroot and encypted will do the trick? what about the bootloader, will it work with unlocked or should it be relocked too?
5.1.1 is NOT officially out for the nexus 6. it is in aosp though. thats two differing things. stock is on 5.1.
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so unroot and encypted will do the trick? what about the bootloader, will it work with unlocked or should it be relocked too?
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The OTA package only looks at system.img and boot.img. Of course you need stock recovery to install it. And the "unroot" option inside SuperSU is insufficient. It leaves some traces around that will prevent the OTA from loading. Flash the stock system.img.
And afterwards, when unencrypting, you'll have to fastboot format userdata. Which will wipe your SDcard again.
HitNrun_ said:
so unroot and encypted will do the trick? what about the bootloader, will it work with unlocked or should it be relocked too?
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Bootloader status has no effect on the OTA.
I have rooted, but encrypted 5.1, and got OTA5 5.1.1, I am on custom recovery,
should I flash stock recovery before flashing? plus, after installing, I will need to regain root access right? my data/apps will stay intact right?
ibraheeemz said:
I have rooted, but encrypted 5.1, and got OTA5 5.1.1, I am on custom recovery,
should I flash stock recovery before flashing? plus, after installing, I will need to regain root access right? my data/apps will stay intact right?
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As it says above, you cannot FLASH the update if you are rooted, even with a stock recovery.
You will have to flash the system.img and boot.img of the Stock factory image. IF the full factory image of the version you want is available here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
...download it, extract the system and boot.img and fastboot flash them. Job done. If the version you need is only available in an OTA file, you'll need to flash the system and boot of the expected version (i.e. the one you're on now) AND flash the recovery to accept the OTA
danarama said:
As it says above, you cannot receive the update if you are rooted, even with a stock recovery.
You will have to flash the system.img and boot.img of the Stock factory image. IF the full factory image of the version you want is available here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
...download it, extract the system and boot.img and fastboot flash them. Job done. If the version you need is only available in an OTA file, you'll need to flash the system and boot of the expected version (i.e. the one you're on now) AND flash the recovery to accept the OTA
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I am using a custom recovery, on a rooted but STOCK 5.1, and I already got OTA, I downloaded it as well, but needed to make sure before upgrading, that it doesn't cause data lose if I move to stock recovery, and want to regain root after flashing 5.1.1,
anyway, i flashed stock recovery, then proceeded with the update, it tried flashing but showed "error" at the android screen, so, I don't whats missing, as I was using stock 5.1, just unlocked it, rooted it, and flashed customer recovery,
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I am using a custom recovery, on a rooted but STOCK 5.1, and I already got OTA, I downloaded it as well, but needed to make sure before upgrading, that it doesn't cause data lose if I move to stock recovery, and want to regain root after flashing 5.1.1,
anyway, i flashed stock recovery, then proceeded with the update, it tried flashing but showed "error" at the android screen, so, I don't whats missing, as I was using stock 5.1, just unlocked it, rooted it, and flashed customer recovery,
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When I said receive, I meant flash. You cannot FLASH the update if you are rooted. Period. Read my post again but substitute the word receive for flash.
danarama said:
When I said receive, I meant flash. You cannot FLASH the update if you are rooted. Period. Read my post again but substitute the word receive for flash.
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got it, but still looking for the answer, will I loose data after flashing system.img? or while regaining root after 5.1.1 update?
ibraheeemz said:
got it, but still looking for the answer, will I loose data after flashing system.img? or while regaining root after 5.1.1 update?
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No. Only factory reset or unlocking the bootloader loses data. System.img is the rom, flashing to /system. Boot.img is the kernel, flashing to /boot. if you flash these separately, userdata.img is not flashed to /data, so your /data partition remains in tact.
root doesn't touch /data either. Just /system
HitNrun_ said:
i think with root but encrypted will do the update
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How do you get root while leaving it encrypted?
Arfyness said:
How do you get root while leaving it encrypted?
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No OTA update will flash with any mods to system, boot, or recovery. No way, no how.
Evolution_Tech said:
No OTA update will flash with any mods to system, boot, or recovery. No way, no how.
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Yeahhh I get that now. It's got to verify that what's already there matches what it's supposed to be updating.
I'm looking here because I'm on Fi now, and there are more implications there than I realized before. Not that those matter too much, I do want stock. Just trying to see how I can stay current, be rooted, and not break Fi. Thankfully it's a Nexus device so it's not throwing up insane device restrictions blocking root access.
I want to be able to update system and boot, as they come available, with a recovery like TWRP or CWM. Then reapply SuperSU flash after that. What I'm not sure of is whether I can even do that. I'm fuzzy on the whole " encrypted device" thing. Does that apply to the images at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#shamu
Would I be hosed if I took the system and boot images and flash those to update from one version to the next?
Arfyness said:
Yeahhh I get that now. It's got to verify that what's already there matches what it's supposed to be updating.
I'm looking here because I'm on Fi now, and there are more implications there than I realized before. Not that those matter too much, I do want stock. Just trying to see how I can stay current, be rooted, and not break Fi. Thankfully it's a Nexus device so it's not throwing up insane device restrictions blocking root access.
I want to be able to update system and boot, as they come available, with a recovery like TWRP or CWM. Then reapply SuperSU flash after that. What I'm not sure of is whether I can even do that. I'm fuzzy on the whole " encrypted device" thing. Does that apply to the images at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#shamu
Would I be hosed if I took the system and boot images and flash those to update from one version to the next?
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You absolutely can, it's just that if you wish to decrypt, you'll have to format data. I've had this device, since launch and I'm still encrypted. Not an issue for me. But you can just flash, individually, everything but userdata and keep your data intact, each time a new image becomes available. Then just flash TWRP and then SuoerSu from TWRP. If you've unencrypted, OTA won't flash. You can always update manually.
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Evolution_Tech said:
You absolutely can, it's just that if you wish to decrypt, you'll have to format data. I've had this device, since launch and I'm still encrypted. Not an issue for me. But you can just flash, individually, everything but userdata and keep your data intact, each time a new image becomes available. Then just flash TWRP and then SuoerSu from TWRP. If you've unencrypted, OTA won't flash. You can always update manually.
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Oohhh, wait, so flash from fastboot, except flash SuperSU from TWRP? (update.zip style?) Is only the data partition encrypted then? If that's the case why are folks decrypting? Unlocking the bootloader requires it, but what is that required for?
And thank you loads BTW! I'm so far behind! I'm coming off 3 years of rooted, stable SGS3 stock, last updated to 4.1.2. There were no further stock updates that I wanted, (too many bugs) and everything was working so I left well enough alone.
(I probably would have messed about with CM and other roms, if I had not initially bricked the thing trying to put TWRP on... and had to send it for somebody to JTAG reprogram it. Thought about it several times, but never wanted to chance it again.)
Thanks again!
Hey.
My N6 got an error after I tried to update. I saw somewhere that installing the update on a rooted device (stock everything, just root) would be successful but it would remove root. Tried and got the error message with the android guy and a warning sign or something like that just with the "error" text, no more. I unrooted and rebooted, after some time the update prompted again and tried, same result.
I did some searches and just a few people have commented this issue, no answers yet.
Any ideas?
OscarBrito said:
Hey.
My N6 got an error after I tried to update. I saw somewhere that installing the update on a rooted device (stock everything, just root) would be successful but it would remove root. Tried and got the error message with the android guy and a warning sign or something like that just with the "error" text, no more. I unrooted and rebooted, after some time the update prompted again and tried, same result.
I did some searches and just a few people have commented this issue, no answers yet.
Any ideas?
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Has to be completely stock. No root, custom kernel or recovery. How did you unroot. Have to flash factory image to remove root. Can't just remove the app. Forget OTAs if you are gonna root. Have to reflash factory image anyway so might as well just flash the updated image.
KingRoot
prdog1 said:
Has to be completely stock. No root, custom kernel or recovery. How did you unroot. Have to flash factory image to remove root. Can't just remove the app. Forget OTAs if you are gonna root. Have to reflash factory image anyway so might as well just flash the updated image.
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I did with King Root, that thing works like a charm, Here's the thread. It has an option to remove root, the root manager disappeared, I rebooted and checked with a root checker and it says that I'm not rooted, still I get the error message when trying to update.
OscarBrito said:
I did with King Root, that thing works like a charm, Here's the thread. It has an option to remove root, the root manager disappeared, I rebooted and checked with a root checker and it says that I'm not rooted, still I get the error message when trying to update.
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Your system is still modified. Even if remove the files the partition has been modified. If you have custom recovery or kernel it also won't flash. Have to flash back to stock so might as well just fastboot the updated factory image.
OscarBrito said:
I did with King Root, that thing works like a charm, Here's the thread. It has an option to remove root, the root manager disappeared, I rebooted and checked with a root checker and it says that I'm not rooted, still I get the error message when trying to update.
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None of the unroot options put things back to 100% stock. They just remove root. The only way to remove all traces is to fastboot flash the system.img
If you're going to run rooted, forget about OTA and learn about fastboot.
General > sticky roll-up > adb and fastboot
Reset
prdog1 said:
Your system is still modified. Even if remove the files the partition has been modified. If you have custom recovery or kernel it also won't flash. Have to flash back to stock so might as well just fastboot the updated factory image.
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Can I backup, do a factory data reset and then do the update? Then root again and restore my stuff.
OscarBrito said:
Can I backup, do a factory data reset and then do the update? Then root again and restore my stuff.
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Nope. Have to flash stock image as posted above.
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Nope. Have to flash stock image as posted above.
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Dang. I don't like to mess with flashing and custom recoveries but I guess now I most.
I'm looking at Flashify. Download the stock image with the patch already on it and flash it that way. Do you recommend doing it that way?
Another thing, Any good and simple backup tool? I just want to skip the part where I need to configure everything again.
OscarBrito said:
Dang. I don't like to mess with flashing and custom recoveries but I guess now I most.
I'm looking at Flashify. Download the stock image with the patch already on it and flash it that way. Do you recommend doing it that way?
Another thing, Any good and simple backup tool? I just want to skip the part where I need to configure everything again.
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You can't flash the stock image with flashify. Use fastboot as I have already advised.
Titanium backup is a great backup app, but you won't wipe the device if you only flash the system.img, boot.img and radio.img
danarama said:
You can't flash the stock image with flashify. Use fastboot as I have already advised.
Titanium backup is a great backup app, but you won't wipe the device if you only flash the system.img, boot.img and radio.img
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Sorry for so many questions mate, but I run linux and for reasons I try to avoid getting into my W8 partition.
OscarBrito said:
Sorry for so many questions mate, but I run linux and for reasons I try to avoid getting into my W8 partition.
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Fastboot works with Linux also.
OscarBrito said:
Sorry for so many questions mate, but I run linux and for reasons I try to avoid getting into my W8 partition.
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No worries. Linux is even easier. You just stick the fastboot binaries in /usr/bin
Note, you'll probably need to use sudo / su to call fastboot.
danarama said:
No worries. Linux is even easier. You just stick the fastboot binaries in /usr/bin
Note, you'll probably need to use sudo / su to call fastboot.
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If all this stuff is needed I better go all in and get AOSiP.
Gonna do it with Nexus Root Toolkit, get TWRP and flash the ROM.
I'm kinda new to this kind of stuff, I use ArchLinux and mess with my computer like there's no tomorrow but doing stuff with a phone can brick it. So, any last advice?
Thanks both in advance.
OscarBrito said:
If all this stuff is needed I better go all in and get AOSiP.
Gonna do it with Nexus Root Toolkit, get TWRP and flash the ROM.
I'm kinda new to this kind of stuff, I use ArchLinux and mess with my computer like there's no tomorrow but doing stuff with a phone can brick it. So, any last advice?
Thanks both in advance.
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Better chance of bricking it with ToolKit than with manual fastboot. I run stock rooted with TWRP also. Takes 2-3 minutes to update with fastboot. If toolkit fails will most likely need fastboot to fix it anyway.
OscarBrito said:
If all this stuff is needed I better go all in and get AOSiP.
Gonna do it with Nexus Root Toolkit, get TWRP and flash the ROM.
I'm kinda new to this kind of stuff, I use ArchLinux and mess with my computer like there's no tomorrow but doing stuff with a phone can brick it. So, any last advice?
Thanks both in advance.
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Don't use toolkits unless you can use fastboot..so just use fastboot. I'm not saying this for fun you know...if anything, its quite boring having to say this to everyone on a daily basis
Use fastboot please. Read my fastboot thread. You understand that fastboot is Googles method for flashing Google android on the google nexus? It should be pretty clear that this is the best tool for the job.
danarama said:
Don't use toolkits unless you can use fastboot..so just use fastboot. I'm not saying this for fun you know...if anything, its quite boring having to say this to everyone on a daily basis
Use fastboot please. Read my fastboot thread. You understand that fastboot is Googles method for flashing Google android on the google nexus? It should be pretty clear that this is the best tool for the job.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not afraid of a terminal, but well, you are right going with a terminal rather than a tool.
I'm finishing my backup and then doing all this manually, thanks a lot, both.
OscarBrito said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not afraid of a terminal, but well, you are right going with a terminal rather than a tool.
I'm finishing my backup and then doing all this manually, thanks a lot, both.
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I can't see how any Linux user would be afraid of terminals
Yeap, just tried to Flash my Super Awesome Nexus 5 with the LMY48I Update Zip file (10mb), via TWRP, while Rooted and I got the Nice Red Error... So I guess I have to download the Factory image LMY48I and via fastboot just flash the system.img if nothing else has been modified since LMY48B... In case I loose Root Access I might just reflash the script via TWRP... I will post update if anyone interested...
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Yeap, just tried to Flash my Super Awesome Nexus 5 with the LMY48I Update Zip file (10mb), via TWRP, while Rooted and I got the Nice Red Error... So I guess I have to download the Factory image LMY48I and via fastboot just flash the system.img if nothing else has been modified since LMY48B... In case I loose Root Access I might just reflash the script via TWRP... I will post update if anyone interested...
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You will lose root. Flash supersu from recovery before first boot
Ok, just confirming here before I mess up. I have an international N6 rooted with stock recovery running LMY47Z. I can't update OTA. So I should flash the full stock image and then run cf-auto-root before rebooting.
Is this correct? Will I lose my user data when I do this? If so, what's the easiest way to backup and restore? Can't I flash the 25MB update .zip instead?
Thanks!
I am looking for an easy way to be able to receive OTA updates after rooting with the 'systemless' root method, the steps I mention below assume that the system partition remains untouched after rooting. I have searched and not found a clear answer on this.
Would I be correct in assuming that this procedure should work to receive an OTA update and keep stock recovery after rooting?
Start with completely stock Android 6.0
fastboot boot twrp-recovery.img (boot TWRP, NOT flash, to maintain stock recovery after rooting)
Flash systemless root with TWRP
OTA arrives (Android 6.0.1 for example)
fastboot flash boot boot.img (with stock 6.0 kernel, root lost)
Accept & install OTA update
Success?
So unless I am missing something, this method would leave the system in a stock, unrooted state after the OTA is installed, and could be repeated for future updates. Anybody have any experience with this yet?
Sounds like it will work, but why mess with the ota? More work and risk honestly.
Since you're already using fastboot just flash the newest boot and system.img. Then flash/boot twrp and flash su like you'd need to do anyway. Done. You don't lose anything flashing system.
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Sounds like it will work, but why mess with the ota? More work and risk honestly.
Since you're already using fastboot just flash the newest boot and system.img. Then flash/boot twrp and flash su like you'd need to do anyway. Done. You don't lose anything flashing system.
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That is true, kind of just wondering/gathering information. It just seemed like with the new root method, OTA would be possible and less risky than before.
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@quakeaz there is one step missing on your guide. After boot.img you also have to flash stock recovery.img. From Lollipop, Google is also checking installed recovery, and for successful OTA, it has to be stock as well.
Otherwise, your guide should work, I've done same thing with my Nexus 5 and 7 for like last 3 months.
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@quakeaz there is one step missing on your guide. After boot.img you also have to flash stock recovery.img. From Lollipop, Google is also checking installed recovery, and for successful OTA, it has to be stock as well.
Otherwise, your guide should work, I've done same thing with my Nexus 5 and 7 for like last 3 months.
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Thanks for your reply, but I intentionally left that step out, due to step 2 in my list. By only booting TWRP, instead of flashing, I assume stock recovery will remain after rooting.
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Thanks for your reply, but I intentionally left that step out, due to step 2 in my list. By only booting TWRP, instead of flashing, I assume stock recovery will remain after rooting.
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Ah, sorry, I overlooked that.
Since I have flashed TWRP instead of stock recovery, I'm going by same process as you write, just reflash stock recovery. And can confirm, that the process is indeed working (no need to install system.img, as with previous system-based SuperSU).
Sounds good!
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quakeaz said:
I am looking for an easy way to be able to receive OTA updates after rooting with the 'systemless' root method, the steps I mention below assume that the system partition remains untouched after rooting. I have searched and not found a clear answer on this.
Would I be correct in assuming that this procedure should work to receive an OTA update and keep stock recovery after rooting?
Start with completely stock Android 6.0
fastboot boot twrp-recovery.img (boot TWRP, NOT flash, to maintain stock recovery after rooting)
Flash systemless root with TWRP
OTA arrives (Android 6.0.1 for example)
fastboot flash boot boot.img (with stock 6.0 kernel, root lost)
Accept & install OTA update
Success?
So unless I am missing something, this method would leave the system in a stock, unrooted state after the OTA is installed, and could be repeated for future updates. Anybody have any experience with this yet?
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Instead of fastboot flashing boot.img, you can use "Settings --> Full Unroot" in SuperSU. During SuperSU systemless flash, your old boot image is backed up. Among other things, the full unroot option will restore the backup, assuming it hasn't been lost due to a factory reset and whatnot.
On many firmwares, this procedure also restores stock recovery. This requires that both the firmware supports recreating the recovery from the boot image plus a patch file (most do), and that TWRP did not remove said patch file (which some versions do).
That being said, if you're using fastboot anyway, flashing boot, recovery, system and vendor manually is always the safest thing before an OTA.
Thanks for the info. So I take it while using systemless root, installing ota without unrooting is a big nono? The January ota just downloaded and is asking me to install, should I do it manually?
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Instead of fastboot flashing boot.img, you can use "Settings --> Full Unroot" in SuperSU. During SuperSU systemless flash, your old boot image is backed up. Among other things, the full unroot option will restore the backup, assuming it hasn't been lost due to a factory reset and whatnot.
On many firmwares, this procedure also restores stock recovery. This requires that both the firmware supports recreating the recovery from the boot image plus a patch file (most do), and that TWRP did not remove said patch file (which some versions do).
That being said, if you're using fastboot anyway, flashing boot, recovery, system and vendor manually is always the safest thing before an OTA.
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Thank you for this thread and the procedure. I tried myself to avoid as much as possible to use a computer for super easy OTA update. But there is always one obligatory step: to root the phone.
Phone systemless rooted (2.66) - TWRP installed - OTA arrives.
In SuperSu app : Fully unroot
Install OTA - success
Fastboot boot (or install) TWRP
Flash superSu 2.66.zip
And that's it!
My question is the following: Does it exist a possibility to load on step 3. something that could flash superSu.zip from within the phone, no computer required?
Maybe FlashFire? I guess not, for it needs root and the point is to flash a rooting zip... You see the loop there...
Would it be theoreticaly possible at all?
Judim said:
Maybe FlashFire? I guess not, for it needs root and the point is to flash a rooting zip... You see the loop there...
Would it be theoreticaly possible at all?
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Yes, this is one of the use-cases of FlashFire. I just haven't finished updating it to 6.0 yet.
Oh nice!
I didn't know it cause I never had the chance to try out FlashFire.
Thanks so much for everything you do for the Android community!
Cheers!
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Ah, sorry, I overlooked that.
Since I have flashed TWRP instead of stock recovery, I'm going by same process as you write, just reflash stock recovery. And can confirm, that the process is indeed working (no need to install system.img, as with previous system-based SuperSU).
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mine fail here. i previously got systemless root 2.62, blu spark kernel and twrp. fastboot flash stock boot and recovery. reboot to update and it fail. any idea why?
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mine fail here. i previously got systemless root 2.62, blu spark kernel and twrp. fastboot flash stock boot and recovery. reboot to update and it fail. any idea why?
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Did you modify system?
Try flashing system, boot, and recovery.
Then try again.
Hi, I have a Oneplus One and today has been released an OTA, so I tried the method. I have COS13 JK (latest full rom) firmware, with systemless 2.84beta supersu and twrp.
The only apps that have root access are AdAway and Greenify (without mods to system apps). No Busybox installed.
I reverted via fastboot to original JK boot.img and recovery.img, and restored, via Adaway, the original hosts file, then I applied the OTA via stock Cyano Recovery, but update failed ("system partition has unexpected contents" error).
Why?
Thanks.
you have to unroot first from the app.Revert to original boot. and then flash
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caldent said:
you have to unroot first from the app.Revert to original boot. and then flash
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I tried: no way to install OTA, I had to wait for the full rom, and dirty flashed it via TWRP without a problem.
Then I rerooted.
Bye!
ok i seem to be getting the run around on where i need to be to ask my question(s)
i am very interested in systemless root....
that being said i am clueless and all info i am findingis just super confusing me.
if someone could humor a noob to systemless rooting that would be greatly appreciated!!
i recently bought 2 new phone for my household, both are the lg tribute hd (also called lg x style)
one click root and pc method of kingoroot etc dont work... i cant locate a twrp or a cwm for this model easily by searching so i am assuming there isnt one (maybe someone could located or help to build one?)- or maybe im not tech smart enough and i can use any?(i dont think so)
model is lg ls675,android 6.0.1, kernel version 3.10.49, build # MXB48T, software is ls676zv3
main reason at the moment for trying to get root is to remove bloatware and to be able to wifi tether without limitations buy the provider, on ther phone that i have obtained root on i used an app called WIFI Tether Router which works beautifully but requires root...
please help as this is how we use our computer with internet and its beneficial all the way around especially to get rid of bloatware and keep device running smoothly...
thanks again for any help. greatly appreciated.
if im not in the right thread please kindly direct me to the correct one. thanks