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There is still a Nexus 7 vs IdeaPad A2109 running,
but now that the A2107 is available (at least in some Asian countries)
it seems more logical to compare the Nexus 7 with this other 7" tablet rather than with the 9" one.
The A2107 in Hong-Kong is today at 3/4 price of A2109.
It should make the 16 GB version at about $225 in USA while the Nexus 7 is $249 .
A2107 details: lenovo.co.uk , including 3G and microSD port
A preview can be found on trustedreviews.com or asking Google
More pictures on China Lenovo propotion page : http://shop.lenovo.com.cn/promotion/a2107
Oukiva said:
There is still a Nexus 7 vs IdeaPad A2109 running,
but now that the A2107 is available (at least in some Asian countries)
it seems more logical to compare the Nexus 7 with this other 7" tablet rather than with the 9" one.
The A2107 in Hong-Kong is today at 3/4 price of A2109.
It should make the 16 GB version at about $225 in USA while the Nexus 7 is $249 .
A2107 details: lenovo.co.uk , including 3G and microSD port
A preview can be found on trustedreviews.com or asking Google
More pictures on China Lenovo propotion page : http://shop.lenovo.com.cn/promotion/a2107
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I got the baby - the Lenovo A2107 - in my hands at the moment... It's quite a nice piece of hardware... Quite responsive, web browsing with the stock browser is fine, videos are played correctly...
The slate fits quite nicely in the hands... The size is quite close from my GTab 7", just a bit slimmer.
The display is good, good enough to read a pdf on the go (I don't really like tabs to read ebooks for a long time). I haven't seen the Nexus yet, but I feel that, with proper resellers, it could find its way to a number of homes...
I'd easily get used to it... Too bad it's not mine...
Considering my screen decided to crack without me throwing it against the wall or dropping it or anything like that, I'm looking at alternatives to the Nexus 7 now since I'm not sure ASUS will own up to their obvious design flaw that caused the issue. The only thing that catches my eye is the processor. Is it a dual core or quad core? I'm having trouble finding definitive references to it online. I'd assume at that price it'd be a dual, but who knows... and the resolution is a little :/ but other than that the rest of it is enticing.
Lenovo IdeaTab A2107 specs:
http://device.androidcommunity.com/ideatab-a2107-3183/
Video hands-on:
The A2107 is a successor to 1107, and has similar specs & pricing. The main hook is its built-in 3G and dual-SIM support, which matters more for regions outside of the US. Otherwise, features and specs are lackluster, with MediaTek MTK6575 SoC and 1024x600 TN LCD, and aren't competitive with the Nexus 7.
e.mote said:
Lenovo IdeaTab A2107 specs:
http://device.androidcommunity.com/ideatab-a2107-3183/
Video hands-on:
The A2107 is a successor to 1107, and has similar specs & pricing. The main hook is its built-in 3G and dual-SIM support, which matters more for regions outside of the US. Otherwise, features and specs are lackluster, with MediaTek MTK6575 SoC and 1024x600 TN LCD, and aren't competitive with the Nexus 7.
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Well that's a severe bummer.
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Lenovo IdeaTab A2107 specs:
Otherwise, features and specs are lackluster, with MediaTek MTK6575 SoC and 1024x600 TN LCD, and aren't competitive with the Nexus 7.
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Not competitive? Depends...
The processor is maybe not the one of the Nexus 7 but the same we find in the Samsung Galaxy Note and all reviews said this phone/tablet was really responsive.
The screen is maybe not the excellent one of the Nexus 7 but is a good one. Not every one is fan of these high resolutions. For me it's mean I having to zoom most of the time on Nexus 7 to be able to read...
Final point is that the 3G Nexus 7 will be probably 40% or $100 more expensive that this model and will still not have microSD.
Not such a bad choice.
After hearing about these Lenovo tablets and having my Nexus 7 screen randomly crack without dropping I decided to look further into a Nexus 7 replacement. Here are the two ultimate bummers I've found about these Lenovo tablets.
2107 = dual core, not quad core
2109 = quad core, but TN panel
Maybe I'm just severely spoiled, but really? A TN panel in a brand new 2012 tablet?
LENOVO Idea Pad A2107A - A lot of questions ??? Please help me !!!
hello,
i bought the new lenovo ideapad a2107a in germany last week.
unfortunately there is no good support by lenovo until now.
i want to buy the original case shown on lenovo us website but can´t find it on web.
where can i buy it ???
another question is, i read about a build in fm-radio at the tablet, but i can´t find the way to switch it on.
can anybody help me ?
and i don´t understand why there are 2 sim slots for 3g / gsm. is there any telephon function too ?
i hope there is somebody who can help me ?
where can i find a manual and description which shows me all functions ?
thank you and best wishes
herbert
N7, FTW!
Pure Google just can't be beaten, especially for Those of us that like to tinker!
Oukiva said:
Not competitive? Depends...
The processor is maybe not the one of the Nexus 7 but the same we find in the Samsung Galaxy Note and all reviews said this phone/tablet was really responsive.
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The 2107 has a single core MediaTek 1GHz CPU. The Galaxy Note has a 1.4GHz dual core Exynos. I don't know how crappy the MediaTek is (never even heard of it before) but my gut tells me there is a world of difference between that 1GHz single core and the 1.4GHz dual core SoCs.
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The screen is maybe not the excellent one of the Nexus 7 but is a good one. Not every one is fan of these high resolutions. For me it's mean I having to zoom most of the time on Nexus 7 to be able to read...
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When we complain about the Nexus 7 screen, it's usually in relation to other high end IPS displays. However even with is substandard color quality, the Nexus 7 IPS display at 1280x800 is going to be a LOT better looking than a TN 1024x600 display.
And you have it backwards. Higher resolution displays mean you don't have to zoom in more to read. Lower resolution means the text is less clear forcing you to do the zooming more often.
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Final point is that the 3G Nexus 7 will be probably 40% or $100 more expensive that this model and will still not have microSD.
Not such a bad choice.
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It may not be a bad deal if you have to have 3G on your tablet for $230 (or something). This is going to be a small number of people. Most could probably just tether with a phone and save money on the extra data plan.
But this is a pretty low end tablet and not even in the same ballpark as a Nexus 7. I can't imagine why anyone would want this, except for the possible need for 3G on a very cheap tablet.
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JaSauders said:
2107 = dual core, not quad core
2109 = quad core, but TN panel
Maybe I'm just severely spoiled, but really? A TN panel in a brand new 2012 tablet?
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From what I was able to dig up, the 2107 isn't even dual core, it's a single core. And a TN panel on a tablet is an instant deal breaker.
JaSauders said:
After hearing about these Lenovo tablets and having my Nexus 7 screen randomly crack without dropping I decided to look further into a Nexus 7 replacement. Here are the two ultimate bummers I've found about these Lenovo tablets.
2107 = dual core, not quad core
2109 = quad core, but TN panel
Maybe I'm just severely spoiled, but really? A TN panel in a brand new 2012 tablet?
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The ten panel isn't as bad as you think. Still 170 ppi and decent colors. Just the viewing angles is all. Which isn't as bad since its not like you'll be frequently looking at it from an angle. Plus your friends won't be able to see what you're doing, which can be good lol
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Hard to argue against a Nexus tablet IMO, unless the other tablet being compared is just as powerful but somehow a lot cheaper.
lag
Its just me or some1 else saw a lag when the guy rotate the screen? (creepy)
CWM/CM?
Is there any chance to run CyanogenMod 9+ on this marvel?
I've seen a post about a port of CM on Lenovo tablet, but I fear it's for a different unit.
Any other info?
how is the camera? [email protected]
nioupy said:
I got the baby - the Lenovo A2107 - in my hands at the moment... It's quite a nice piece of hardware... Quite responsive, web browsing with the stock browser is fine, videos are played correctly...
The slate fits quite nicely in the hands... The size is quite close from my GTab 7", just a bit slimmer.
The display is good, good enough to read a pdf on the go (I don't really like tabs to read ebooks for a long time). I haven't seen the Nexus yet, but I feel that, with proper resellers, it could find its way to a number of homes...
I'd easily get used to it... Too bad it's not mine...
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Have you tried the rear camera? Is it Autofocus? I'm looking to get one and use if for detailed fairly close-up shots. I just got a Galaxy Tab 2; the camera is fixed focus and not good at all for anything close up. Also, the Tab 2 does not allow programs/aps on the miniSD card. How about the speakers and the battery so far? thanks!
Google update, always the nexus...
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OP should update the prices to reflect the current 32/16 gig N7 pricing.
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i got the lenovo for 200€
screen is good, gps responsive, wifi reception great.
it handles lag free, besides when rotating screens. dual sim is a nice touch. would buy it again any day.
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ps: rooten is easy too. just did a repost over there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005349
valravn said:
i got the lenovo for 200€
screen is good, gps responsive, wifi reception great.
it handles lag free, besides when rotating screens. dual sim is a nice touch. would buy it again any day.
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ps: rooten is easy too. just did a repost over there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005349
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Agreed only needs a fix for rotating screens otherwise very good
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Ps feel free to check out my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2067791
One of first with snapdragon 800 which the 600 is a whopping 40% faster than our speed leading s4pro.wow. a 16...yes 16 mp camera thats a NIKION!! WOW #2 first phone with ultra hd which is 4 k.insane. and my fav part which ive been waiting for an Oled screen not a boring lcd.woohoo.im so geeked. What about you?
Where did they show that?
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Where did they show that?
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They didn't, its a rumor (hopefully a true one lol)
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Noone will put a 4k display to 5" phone, thats plain stupid so this one you may drop.
Snapdragon 800 will be more likely used in tablets, so i also dont expect it to be in next Nexus device , it will most probably will be SD600 like in other top models this year.
Ill bet for 1080P , 5" screen (which is also useless in phone, but everyone got it so Google will also). 2GB of ram (who needs more in a phone?)
No sdcard slot, no removable battery - standard in google phones.
the most major change will be the OS, KLP will most probably be pushed to phones after I/O.
Adam
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Noone will put a 4k display to 5" phone, thats plain stupid so this one you may drop.
Snapdragon 800 will be more likely used in tablets, so i also dont expect it to be in next Nexus device , it will most probably will be SD600 like in other top models this year.
Ill bet for 1080P , 5" screen (which is also useless in phone, but everyone got it so Google will also). 2GB of ram (who needs more in a phone?)
No sdcard slot, no removable battery - standard in google phones.
the most major change will be the OS, KLP will most probably be pushed to phones after I/O.
Adam
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I think its 4k video recording not screen resolution
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Where did they show that?
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One of quite a few places. http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/03/18/lg-megalodon-nexus-5-to-boast-4k-ultra-hd-video-recording/
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I think its 4k video recording not screen resolution
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Of course, thats why its called ultra hd. Dont how i did but sorry if my comment came of meaning screen resolution. Lol
AdamLange said:
Noone will put a 4k display to 5" phone, thats plain stupid so this one you may drop.
Snapdragon 800 will be more likely used in tablets, so i also dont expect it to be in next Nexus device , it will most probably will be SD600 like in other top models this year.
Ill bet for 1080P , 5" screen (which is also useless in phone, but everyone got it so Google will also). 2GB of ram (who needs more in a phone?)
No sdcard slot, no removable battery - standard in google phones.
the most major change will be the OS, KLP will most probably be pushed to phones after I/O.
Adam
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4k refers to video its called ultra hd.wow . also....it seems(could of course be wrong) like you dissing or dissmising nexuses?! First are you forgeting price??!! Way below norm.people are and will eventually flock once out of a contract fir a 249$ phone. Second nexus strives now(not the gnex albeit a good phone) to be the top o line device. My lgog which is the n4 brother destroyed the Samsung Galaxy s3 in the way many ways including speed. The lgog is the top scorer stock on quadrant. Yes i know its not everyday use im just making a point. I have contacts at lg(a cousin who is a dev) and all these specs are being seriously considered.(blueprint will be at fed communication soon) and the almost for sure one is the snapdragon 800. So your guess is flawed. Sorry
God I hope the next Nexus isn't amoled. After a year of using the galaxy nexus I was tired of the griany screen and riduclous inaccurate colors. Please use the screen technology from the HTC One!
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God I hope the next Nexus isn't amoled. After a year of using the galaxy nexus I was tired of the griany screen and riduclous inaccurate colors. Please use the screen technology from the HTC One!
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Agreed, I hate oled screens especially with screen burn in on soft keys ugh
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everything sounds great, except the 16mp camera. come on, who the hell needs more megapixels?? we need quality not quantity... time to follow htc's path with the ultrapixel technology. and one other wish: good battery!! it's the biggest problem of smartphones nowadays, especially nexus phones. i have nothing else to wish for. i don't need bigger screen or resolution, better CPU, nor more ram.
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zakoo2 said:
everything sounds great, except the 16mp camera. come on, who the hell needs more megapixels?? we need quality not quantity... time to follow htc's path with the ultrapixel technology. and one other wish: good battery!! it's the biggest problem of smartphones nowadays, especially nexus phones. i have nothing else to wish for. i don't need bigger screen or resolution, better CPU, nor more ram.
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agreed, need to follow HTC's path with ultrapixel camera, looks freaking amazing!
..>Wondering why some lame rumour about a unrelated phone is in the Nexus 4 section....
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Has anyone heard about this rumor before? Intel entering into the mobile market with a non-ARM cpu? Am I reading this correctly, its possibly four times the performance of a Snapdragon 800 CPU, and 64bit to boot?
http://www.examiner.com/article/nexus-8-tablet-could-debut-intel-64-bit-processor-for-android
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Has anyone heard about this rumor before? Intel entering into the mobile market with a non-ARM cpu? Am I reading this correctly, its possibly four times the performance of a Snapdragon 800 CPU, and 64bit to boot?
http://www.examiner.com/article/nexus-8-tablet-could-debut-intel-64-bit-processor-for-android
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Damnit, just when I "find" a procesor I can trust (LG G2's Snap 800 is awesome), the next Nexus tablet might not use it.
I guess if this is true, I'll be holding off for a while after it intros to upgrade from my 2012 to the new one.
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Damnit, just when I "find" a procesor I can trust (LG G2's Snap 800 is awesome), the next Nexus tablet might not use it.
I guess if this is true, I'll be holding off for a while after it intros to upgrade from my 2012 to the new one.
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LOL, Yeah I agree... All of a sudden my decision not to upgrade to the 2013 N7 seems like was perfectly warranted. WOW, kinda hard to wrap my head around 4 times the performance. Lets hope its not at the cost of 4 times the power consumption, hahaha. Even with a bigger battery it might get to warm to carry around without using it outdoors in a stiff wind. lol
Seems like a kinda far-fetched rumor.
Hummmmmm Really????
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Seems like a kinda far-fetched rumor.
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I was thinking the same thing.. But it was 70 two days ago then the next day 12 deg with 2 inches of snow ..
Nothing Surprises me anymore.
Intel has already announced the CPU family weeks ago, and it is no longer a rumor. They have one called the Merrifield Z3480, which is a dual-core and runs at 2.13 Ghz, and another Called Moorefield Z3580, which is Quad-core and runs at 2.35 ghz. Both are native 64bit processor SoC's and combine many of the devices needed to perform mobile functions.
Here’s a look at the Intel Z3480 Merrifield SoC:
2.13 GHz dual-core 64-bit-ready SoC (Intel’s 22nm process technology on Silvermont microarchitecture)
13 MP support hardware-capable; 8 MP enabled on Form Factor Device (FFD)
LPDDR3 memory, 2×32 bit, up to 4 GB; 8.5 GB/s
USB 3.0; eMMC 4.5
Android 4.4.2 OS support
1080p 60 fps video recording and playback
H.265 (HEVC) and VP9 support <--- This is amazing
Imagination PowerVR G6400 GPU
Intel Mobile Wireless Display (Intel WiDi)
Intel XMM 7160 LTE Modem for 4G, 3G and 2G
Bluetooth 4.0 low energy, Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n/ac)
Digital Rights Management (DRM) support
HDCP 2.x for premium content over HDMI
http://www.intomobile.com/2014/02/2...aimed-tablets-and-smartphones-z3480-and-z3580
The only thing hard to believe for me is the fact that Nexus may get it. I mean a SoC like this is bound to be expensive, right? Intel isn't known for supplying cheap processors. I would think just the SoC alone is going to be $200. No?
Looks like there is also talk of a Nexus 6... My only question is are these devices just gonna keep getting bigger and bigger????
Seems like soon we will have the nexus tablets with 15 inch screens!! I like the size of my n7 and I hope they keep it.
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markymark567 said:
Looks like there is also talk of a Nexus 6... My only question is are these devices just gonna keep getting bigger and bigger????
Seems like soon we will have the nexus tablets with 15 inch screens!! I like the size of my n7 and I hope they keep it.
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I think eight inch is better than seven. 6" 8" and 10" seems perfect. They do not design these to cover a need, they design them to sell them. Sadly, humans think when a number goes higher it is automatically better. Even when you realize its not, your brain continues to work that way. If they released another Nexus 7, it would not sell as much as the new Nexus 8.
8" could be done the same size as the nexus 7. Might not be too bad. Personally I'd like something bigger for NY next tablet but I don't want an Intel processor. They are usually weaker on graphics and some apps are not compatible.
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Also think about what LG is doing with bezels... You could get an 8" display in the size of the Nexus 7 frame today, or with very little increase in size.
Not saying LG is the OEM or anything, but bezels are getting smaller and smaller, which means larger screens in the same overall device size.
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6" 8" and 10" seems perfect.
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negative, a 6" phone is too big for many people.
also i've heard the new intel chips will be no good for the custom ROM community: http://androidcommunity.com/intels-...g-trouble-for-android-customization-20140317/
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negative, a 6" phone is too big for many people.
also i've heard the new intel chips will be no good for the custom ROM community: http://androidcommunity.com/intels-...g-trouble-for-android-customization-20140317/
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Scary, but not surprising coming from Intel. The more I think about it the more I don't like the idea of an Intel processor. Too many bad memories of the crappy atom processors in netbooks don't help.
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Also think about what LG is doing with bezels... You could get an 8" display in the size of the Nexus 7 frame today, or with very little increase in size.
Not saying LG is the OEM or anything, but bezels are getting smaller and smaller, which means larger screens in the same overall device size.
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Yeah, I like that idea about less bezel, but I also do not want zero bezel, or some of your fingers flesh while holding it could get in the way. Maybe 1/8 or 1/4 wide bezel, no more. I just know I want a 8" or 9" screen tablet for doing business while I am still in bed. I usually wake up about 5 hours after going to bed, and I can't keep from checking email, paypal, ebay, replying to client questions and customer concerns, etc. I spend 45 minutes every morning and I find the screen and font sizes too small on the N7. I know I can change font sizes, but it just don't fit right. I think another inch, or inch and a half, would make it a little bit better to do business while my eyes are still tired. After 45 minutes my eyes are extremely sore from the constant focusing, and trying to read. Maybe larger fonts and more screen real-estate and my eyes wouldn't get so tired. And I feel that 10" may be just a little too big to snuggle with, lol... But I don't know...
Yeah a 6" phone would be stupid. So, maybe a 5" phone tops, 8" tablet and a 11", to replace the 10?
Oh, and why on earth would it not be good for custom roms and Intel processors? The worlds best chip maker and no one wants one in their mobile device? I would think the source would still be released regardless of the chip type and maker.
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Oh, and why on earth would it not be good for custom roms and Intel processors? The worlds best chip maker and no one wants one in their mobile device? I would think the source would still be released regardless of the chip type and maker.
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Then you need to read up. Intel has a bad reputation in the past with Linux and their atom chip. They are also known for locking down features and building things mainly for Windows.
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T-Keith said:
Then you need to read up. Intel has a bad reputation in the past with Linux and their atom chip. They are also known for locking down features and building things mainly for Windows.
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Yes, I am well aware of their past Atom woes. But that does not automatically mean these new processors will suffer the same fate.
And it looks possible that Google may have tapped HTC to manufacture this beast...
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/544578/20140324/nexus-8-10-2-release-date-specs.htm#.Uy_kgVTdWBM
http://www.google.com/nexus/6/ is official today & I have mixed feelings as a very satisfied Note 2 owner who was nearly confident he was going to upgrade to the Note 4 Friday.
My main gripes were the Note 4's speaker seems potentially worse than my Note 2 & is expected to be blown away by the dual front facing stereo speakers of the Nexus 6 & when playing with the Note4 at BestBuy it was not always snappy smooth while the Nexus 6 is expected to be butter smooth snappy with pure Android Lollipop. I even liked the Samsung Mega 6.3" in my hand so I don't expect to be intimidated by the 5.96" QHD Nexus 6 & may even prefer the extra .26" over 5.7" Note4. :good:
Of course I prefer a removable battery & storage but with the rapid 15 minute "6" hour charge of the Nexus 6 & 64GB model I might be willing to compromise there particularly if it makes the device more secure although I could encrypt the Note 4 even if I haven't yet my Note2 & the freezer battery encryption hack is unlikely in the real world. I do appreciate the Spen functionality but was planning to keep my Note2 (where I don't use the Spen as much as I originally expected) but would likely use the enhanced Note4 Spen more like a mouse etc:victory:
I gotta admit the http://www.google.com/nexus/6/ looks slick & will likely be snappier than the Note4 plus those dual front facing stereo speakers I was hoping would be in the Note 4 & Android Lollipop out of the box. Looking forward to Note 4 Vs. Nexus 6 reviews but that'll require patience as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4KQUk4Lv8o doesn't settle it so what say you biased Note 4 forums readers..Note4.. Nexus6.. Both?!:highfive:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=6604
http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/15/nexus-6-official/
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/10/15/nexus-6-features-top-5/
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/10/15/nexus-6-the-top-5-disappointments/
http://www.technobuffalo.com/videos/top-5-android-lollipop-features-googles-most-exciting-os-ever/
http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/15/...includes-kill-switch-factory-reset-protection
Honestly, I'm quite mad. Coming from a Nexus 5, I was waiting for a Nexus 6. When I thought it was never gonna be a thing, I got the Note 4.
Mad.
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Honestly, I'm quite mad. Coming from a Nexus 5, I was waiting for a Nexus 6. When I thought it was never gonna be a thing, I got the Note 4.
Mad.
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When they did the press release for note 4 everyone knew that on release day of note 4 here in us they was gonna have a press release of when nexus be out. No one to be mad at but your self.
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I would take note 4 over nexus any day. How can you not have SD card slot. TMOBILE does not show what they will carry but in past they carried 16gb not 32gb. So I think they gonna carry 32 and not 64gb. Plus 4 k video takes up a lot of memory. How can you not have SD card slot. Shame on google and Motorola.
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You regret getting the Note4 now? If so curious about specifics. Also assuming you'd like the Nexus 6 instead can't you return the Note4 within 30 days?
The funny thing is I'd be happy to get the Note4 Friday if it weren't for the Nexus 6. They both appeal to me but I've only held the Note4 in my hand & don't like the idea of waiting weeks to compare it to the Nexus 6. I wish they released some real hands on videos & reviews today not just teases https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvgLNXfzQhw
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Honestly, I'm quite mad. Coming from a Nexus 5, I was waiting for a Nexus 6. When I thought it was never gonna be a thing, I got the Note 4.
Mad.
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I'd still have the Note2 to fall back on for the functionality I don't find in the Nexus 6.. F*ck it I'll get both the Note4 & Nexus6 :victory:
What do you mean couldn't one get the 64GB unlocked direct from https://play.google.com/store/devices?hl=en when available for T-Mobile?
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I would take note 4 over nexus any day. How can you not have SD card slot. TMOBILE does not show what they will carry but in past they carried 16gb not 32gb. So I think they gonna carry 32 and not 64gb. Plus 4 k video takes up a lot of memory. How can you not have SD card slot. Shame on google and Motorola.
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I'd still have the Note2 to fall back on for the functionality I don't find in the Nexus 6.. F*ck it I'll get both the Note4 & Nexus6 :victory:
What do you mean couldn't one get the 64GB unlocked direct from https://play.google.com/store/devices?hl=en when available for T-Mobile?
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From t mobile they not gonna carry the 64gb so they say now. So I would have to pay full price. The no SD card is a deal breaker. They need to change this.
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$650 for the nexus 6, no thanks. No regret pre ordering the note 4.
i gotta say i am seriously considering returning my note 4 and getting the nexus. i got the nexus 5 coming from sprint note 2 and it was just too small for me, but i really liked the phone itself. i ended up getting a note 3 and loved it. the upgrade to the note 4 doesn't blow me away. it just doesn't feel like a new phone to me, more like my note 3 since the screen is the same size. that 6 inch screen and a whole new version of android however will make me feel justified for spending the extra money.
I'm used to paying the full price but had an idea what you meant.. I think Google implemented sdcard restrictions starting in 4.4KK for security reasons so perhaps they saw sdcards problematic from the beginning of Nexus line but Android L5 encrypts everything by default now & even Samsung allows sdcard encryption in the Note4 right so why not offer it? However is connecting to your PC to transfer & manage local storage along with cloud services for less sensitive data that unmanageable?
The non-removable battery is also limiting even in the context of rapid charging when traveling & not sure how long its battery is expected to function well beyond the initial years. My Note2 will still have an easily replaceable battery indefinitely..
I have a feeling the Nexus 6 is going to be consistently-satisfyingly snappier than the Note4 out of the box but that should be tweakable if user is prepared to put in the time.. & even offer a better full screen multimedia experience while the Note4 has its Spen & multitasking strengths.
Honestly I think Apple & even Google prefer faster product lifecycles so they rather not offer easy user serviceability forcing more device replacement sales..
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From t mobile they not gonna carry the 64gb so they say now. So I would have to pay full price. The no SD card is a deal breaker. They need to change this.
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This sucks! If it weren't for the s pen this would be easy.
I was seriously considering going from the Note 3 to Note 4 but wanted to hold off until it was out for a bit and see what it was like when the dust settled. Now I am not so sure and want to wait to see how the Nexus 6 plays out. The S Pen is nice but I really don't use it that often. I use my Note 3 more like a normal phone so a Nexus device that performs better with better sound may be a better fit for me.
We will see...
Boy this looks tempting and I already have the Note 4 in hand. Hmmmm, return policy? Jump prgrm? Options. Gotta test drive the 4 for a few more and get a good gut feeling from it, I'll go from there
Well...here's my take on it....
Screen Resolution:
SAME Quad HD 2560x1440, BUT
5.7 inch, 515ppi Super AMOLED on the Note 4,
5.96 inch, 493ppi iPS on the Nexus 6. (Thanks to LG)
Processor and GPU:
SAME quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 at 2.7GHz w/ Adreno 420 GPU
Memory (RAM):
SAME 3GB RAM LPDDR3
Memory (Internal):
SAME 32GB & 64GB (N4 TBA)
This is where things start to tip strongly to the Note 4: [Highlights in RED = More/Better]
* As a photographer myself I know megapixels don't mean everything. BUT the sensor in the Note 4 is pretty awesome and with an aperture of f1.9, it has an edge over the Nexus 6. Let alone the extra megapixels. I have a feeling these two will be the top shooters in its class.
Camera (FRONT):
Note 4 @ 3.7 megapixels (f1.9) w/ 120 degree wide angle selfies + shoots 1080p video
Nexus 6 @ 2 megapixels w/ no wide angle + shoots only 720p video
Camera (REAR):
Note 4 @ 16 megapixels w/ OiS and 1/2.6" sensor. (Better for low light shooting)
+ 1080p Video @ 60 FPS
+ 4K UHD Video @ 30 FPS
Nexus 6 @ 13 megapixels w/ OiS and 1/3.06: sensor.
- 1080p Video @ 30 FPS
- [Edit] It does shoot 4K @ 30 FPS
Expandable Memory:
Note 4 = YES to 128GB
Nexus 6 = NOPE
Multi-Tasking Goodies w/ S-Pen:
Note 4 = YES
Nexus 6 = NO
Overall Size: (Personal preference.)
Note 4 (6.04 x 3.09 x 0.33 inches)
Nexus 6 (6.27 x 3.27 x 0.40 inches) [Taller, wider and thicker]
Weight: (Personal preference.)
Note 4 (6.21 oz)
Nexus 6 (6.49 oz)
Battery:
SAME @ 3220mAh, BUT
Removable in the Note 4
Stuck in the Nexus 6
Speakers:
Note 4's now on the back cover. (Hmmm....I liked it on the Note 3. This seems like a S5 carry over.)
Nexus 6 w/ Dual front facing speakers.
Design Language: (Personal preference, BUT practicality comes into play here.)
Note 4 really nailed it this time with the aluminum/magnesium frame and the back is nice and grippy.
Nexus 6 = HTC One meets Phone 6 meets Slippery Slide. WTH happened? Don't get me wrong, I think it's really clean, but it's a legitimate knock off of the HTC One. It's real interesting too how it followed the Note 4's design concept with the two little marks on the to end of the phone. (Antennas?) It's the little white stripes. The same ol' aluminum backing is a nightmare waiting to happen like the i6, HTC One and alike.
Price:
Worthless to talk about IMO, because if you're buying a phone at this level, price shouldn't even be in the conversation. You don't come to this league and gripe about pricing.
Software:
Absolutely worthless to talk about and to base any decisions on what it currently has. That's so freakishly stupid to me. Just because a device has Lollipop now doesn't mean that others won't get it LOL. It cracks me up on how some people get all hot and heavy over this stupid variable that doesn't matter! We're on XDA for crying out loud! What, you plan to keep you phone stock?! I mean geeezzz come on...If so you're in the wrong place.
Overall, I can't find ANY justification or reason to get a Nexus 6 over the Note 4. This will solely come down to personal preference in the design for the most part as...
....they both have the SAME CPU, RAM, Memory options, GPU and top of the line displays. At the end of the day if you factor in everything and add it all up the Note 4 obviously wins, however, either phone is a great choice to the average user. For power users who need expandable memory, the most vivid screen out on the market, upgradable battery, camera and software goodies....Note 4.
iunlock said:
Well...here's my take on it....
Screen Resolution:
SAME Quad HD 2560x1440, BUT
5.7 inch, 515ppi Super AMOLED on the Note 4,
5.96 inch, 493ppi iPS on the Nexus 6. (Thanks to LG)
Processor and GPU:
SAME quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 at 2.7GHz w/ Adreno 420 GPU
Memory (RAM):
SAME 3GB RAM LPDDR3
Memory (Internal):
SAME 32GB & 64GB (N4 TBA)
This is where things start to tip strongly to the Note 4: [Highlights in RED = More/Better]
Camera (FRONT):
Note 4 @ 3.7 megapixels (f1.9) w/ 120 degree wide angle selfies + shoots 1080p video
Nexus 6 @ 2 megapixels w/ no wide angle + shoots only 720p video
Camera (REAR):
Note 4 @ 16 megapixels w/ OiS and 1/2.6" sensor. (Better for low light shooting)
+ 1080p Video @ 60 FPS
+ 4K UHD Video @ 30 FPS
Nexus 6 @ 13 megapixels w/ OiS and 1/3.06: sensor.
- 1080p Video @ 30 FPS
- No 4K
Expandable Memory:
Note 4 = YES to 128GB
Nexus 6 = NOPE
Multi-Tasking Goodies w/ S-Pen:
Note 4 = YES
Nexus 6 = NO
Overall Size: (Personal preference.)
Note 4 (6.04 x 3.09 x 0.33 inches)
Nexus 6 (6.27 x 3.27 x 0.40 inches) [Taller, wider and thicker]
Weight: (Personal preference.)
Note 4 (6.21 oz)
Nexus 6 (6.49 oz)
Battery:
SAME @ 3220mAh, BUT
Removable in the Note 4
Stuck in the Nexus 6
Speakers:
Note 4's now on the back cover. (Hmmm....I liked it on the Note 3. This seems like a S5 carry over.)
Nexus 6 w/ Dual front facing speakers.
Design Language: (Personal preference, BUT practicality comes into play here.)
Note 4 really nailed it this time with the aluminum/magnesium frame and the back is nice and grippy.
Nexus 6 = HTC One meets Phone 6 meets Slippery Slide. WTH happened? Don't get me wrong, I think it's really clean, but it's a legitimate knock off of the HTC One. It's real interesting too how it followed the Note 4's design concept with the two little marks on the to end of the phone. (Antennas?) It's the little white stripes. The same ol' aluminum backing is a nightmare waiting to happen like the i6, HTC One and alike.
Price:
Worthless to talk about IMO, because if you're buying a phone at this level, price shouldn't even be in the conversation. You don't come to this league and gripe about pricing.
Overall, I can't find ANY justification or reason to get a Nexus 6 over the Note 4. This will solely come down to personal preference in the design for the most part as...
....they both have the SAME CPU, RAM, Memory options, GPU and top of the line displays. At the end of the day if you factor in everything and add it all up the Note 4 obviously wins, however, either phone is a great choice to the average user. For power users who need expandable memory, the most vivid screen out on the market, upgradable battery, camera and software goodies....Note 4.
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Nexus don't have 4k? You sure. I read different
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Nexus 6 specs http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-6-specs
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chipworkz said:
I was seriously considering going from the Note 3 to Note 4 but wanted to hold off until it was out for a bit and see what it was like when the dust settled. Now I am not so sure and want to wait to see how the Nexus 6 plays out. The S Pen is nice but I really don't use it that often. I use my Note 3 more like a normal phone so a Nexus device that performs better with better sound may be a better fit for me.
We will see...
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Not sure Google Nexus 6 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 4: in-depth specs comparison is totally accurate at this point but worth a look.
Even after the Note 4 gets http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0 , from day one I'd use those dual front facing stereo speakers & extra .26" screen more regularly than the Spen (& I'd still keep my Note2 with Spen when need be) but want to see reviews & have both in the hand. Note 5 will now more likely score dual front facing speakers & get a bigger approaching 6" screen & 64 bit chip with at least 4GB RAM capable of capturing high frame rate slow mo video with its audio intact & other goodies now that Apple, Motorola, LG & others are going after that market.
glensta said:
Boy this looks tempting and I already have the Note 4 in hand. Hmmmm, return policy? Jump prgrm? Options. Gotta test drive the 4 for a few more and get a good gut feeling from it, I'll go from there
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For those considering returning the Note4 check with where you purchased it for return window as some may only be 14 days while others 30 days to test drive & within 30 days you may get that chance to try them side by side. When I bought my Note2 full price from T-Mobile.com I was told I had 30 days but I think BestBuy for example may only accept such returns for 14 days & perhaps some T-Mobile stores so worth knowing your options.
Let us know how it all goes & your ultimate decision process:good:
Hmmm I could be mistaken.
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Nexus don't have 4k? You sure. I read different
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---------- Post added at 10:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:26 PM ----------
Indeed, my mistake. Thanks for clarifying that.
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Nexus 6 specs http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-6-specs
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also nexus 6 has a samsung amoled display not ips
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The biggest point everyone is missing..... Nexus 6 will have a an amazing amount of developers due to the fact there's only 1 model Nexus 6 for Verizon, Sprint, Att, T-Mobile, etc. We will be able to use all roms and all bootloaders will be unlockable.... The only unlocked bootloader for the Note 4 is T-Mobile....
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The biggest point everyone is missing..... Nexus 6 will have a an amazing amount of developers due to the fact there's only 1 model Nexus 6 for Verizon, Sprint, Att, T-Mobile, etc. We will be able to use all roms and all bootloaders will be unlockable.... The only unlocked bootloader for the Note 4 is T-Mobile....
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first off nothing comes close to the design of the note 4. plus the bonus added in features which will never be present on the stock nexus 6. on top of that the phone is huge you cant even put in your pocket. whats the point then of it being a phone when you literally have to carry it in your hand all the time? after having both nexus 4 and nexus 5 i can confidently say that they have way more issues in production. I bought both nexus devices and both were returned due too major manufacture flaws such as patchy spots on screen, flickering, battery fail, and even the accessories i received for both devices looked like they went through a sand grinder . Nexus devices are nothing compared to this premium device. even the iPhone 6 plus doesn't compare. I have both and asked my friends at work which they prefer and they immediately said the note 4. in the end the note 4 is 20 times better in style, comfortably of use, and feature wise. And the nexus developers are different for sprint since its a whole different device with different radios. And to be honest i think the price tag will definitely turn away a lot of developers. in the end the note 4 will also get stock android but difference is you have the choice of touch-wiz and stock android.
And the unlocked boot loader doesn't matter unless your swapping kernels. the previous locked notes received safestrap. personally i think the only real reason to root the device is to remove bloat and your all set its snappy enough. even then developers are already getting there hands on this beast of a device, while you have to basically wait a month and half to get the nexus 6 which will sell out and be backordered for weeks adding on another 2 weeks for you to recieve it.
well got me a nexus 5 on swappa for a good deal it well go well with my nexus 9 tablet i am fully neuxs fan any ways dos any one think that the new nexus 5X is more like a downgrade over the nexus 5? any one has a new nexus 5X wish do you per fer nexus 5X or nexus 5 has far has speed gos
the new nexus 5X has a 1.44 snapdragon 808 CPU why the old nexus 5 has a 2.3 800 snapdragon CPU it i saw some youtub video and speed test on the nexus 5 with android 6.01 and it seems the nexus 5 is march faster then on the new nexus 5X so if you haveing to pick wish would you used the new nexus 5X or the old nexus 5?
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well got me a nexus 5 on swappa for a good deal it well go well with my nexus 9 tablet i am fully neuxs fan any ways dos any one think that the new nexus 5X is more like a downgrade over the nexus 5? any one has a new nexus 5X wish do you per fer nexus 5X or nexus 5 has far has speed gos
the new nexus 5X has a 1.44 snapdragon 808 CPU why the old nexus 5 has a 2.3 800 snapdragon CPU it i saw some youtub video and speed test on the nexus 5 with android 6.01 and it seems the nexus 5 is march faster then on the new nexus 5X so if you haveing to pick wish would you used the new nexus 5X or the old nexus 5?
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I'm not a Nexus 5X user, but from what I can tell, it is not a downgrade.
5X has a better camera, 5X has a better screen, 5X has a fingerprint scanner, 5X will get Android N officially from Google, 5X has a better battery life, 5X has USB Type-C and 5X has better speakers.
It is true though that Nexus 5 should be faster on Apps that do not utilize hexa-core CPUs.
As above, the camera is great, I don't need to take a proper one with me now, low light amazes me
The screen is nice, the n5 was brighter.
the fingerprint scanner is nice and convenient, power button is barely used, security is another subject with fingerprints,
The 5x has one speaker and thats par,
Battery life is great with display on, I guess that's what makes the display drain better than the n5
The nexus5x may take a while with os and kernel improvements to really get the benefits from 6 cores,the 2 big cores help with apps loading, takes little time to reload browser unlike the n5 did
I would say its an upgrade for me, glad I got it,I haven't looked back
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I think N5X is a good device overall (not at European prices though), but is not absolutely better than the original N5: it's less comfortable to hold with one hand, lacks wireless charging and its performances are often lower than the older model because of the disk encryption. What's more, I also find the 3.5mm jack on the lower edge a design flaw.
On the other hand, better camera and fingerprint sensor are welcome additions.
Wrapping up, I think the newer device is not worth buying, as long as the older N5 is supported by Google.
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Snow755 said:
well got me a nexus 5 on swappa for a good deal it well go well with my nexus 9 tablet i am fully neuxs fan any ways dos any one think that the new nexus 5X is more like a downgrade over the nexus 5? any one has a new nexus 5X wish do you per fer nexus 5X or nexus 5 has far has speed gos
the new nexus 5X has a 1.44 snapdragon 808 CPU why the old nexus 5 has a 2.3 800 snapdragon CPU it i saw some youtub video and speed test on the nexus 5 with android 6.01 and it seems the nexus 5 is march faster then on the new nexus 5X so if you haveing to pick wish would you used the new nexus 5X or the old nexus 5?
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Less usable RAM thanks to 64 bit OS. Less user available storage.
Arguably crappier SOC if you are a gamer.
Other than that, its an upgrade.
No OIS, so I think it is a downgrade. The different with and without OIS is really large, especially for indoor.
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Less usable RAM thanks to 64 bit OS. Less user available storage.
Arguably crappier SOC if you are a gamer.
Other than that, its an upgrade.
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its true less ram and storage but that didnt put me off, the specs on paper is not great, i could of gotten oneplus 2 but its not just the hardware that counts but the software. whats the point in having a high spec unit if OS optimization is bad (not aimed at oneplus), touchwiz is an example.
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No OIS, so I think it is a downgrade. The different with and without OIS is really large, especially for indoor.
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Yea but it has EIS
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I am not a N5x owner and I bought my N5 only two months ago and I'm really enjoying it but I'm sure 5x is better, only that it is not what you expect to be after two years of tech development.
Nexus 5 had been build with very few compromises while 5x isn't built to be a flasgship and I think who own a N5 shouldn't buy a 5x only because it will not give the same feeling that unboxing a Nexus 5 gave you.
Conversely I suggest to who has never own a N5, but a previous nexus like 4 (I owned it too), to buy it but only at the right price. In Italy, where I actually live and at the moment I'm writing, a Nexus 5x 32GB costs 429€, I don't know if it's too much, you can tell, but the same shop offers a Galaxy S6 32GB at the same price. I like nexus world, just think that I sold a S6 flat to buy a N5 but I had 300 euro in the change and I will have never exchanged with a 5x at par, I'm not crazy, it's just not worth so much or as much as a S6
I was looking at one here in Australia but they are $300 more than I paid for my Nexus 5 and didn't seem like it was worth the extra money.
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I think that the nexus 5x is a good upgrade over the five, And it's a good phone too. But considering the price, I can get better in that segment (I live in India) and I'd practically not buy the 5x.