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Can't Check for Software Updates?

Hey guys,
I am stock rooted on my Note 3. I only rooted to clean up most of the ATT bloatware that was installed; so that's all I've removed.
I can't check software updates. I tap and tap and tap the Software Updates button in the settings and nothing. I've tried restarting the phone and still nothing. Any ideas?
Thanks!
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crkdslider said:
Hey guys,
I am stock rooted on my Note 3. I only rooted to clean up most of the ATT bloatware that was installed; so that's all I've removed.
I can't check software updates. I tap and tap and tap the Software Updates button in the settings and nothing. I've tried restarting the phone and still nothing. Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Devices with root access can't check for software updates. Your device status is listed as "custom" once you root it.

440bro said:
Devices with root access can't check for software updates. Your device status is listed as "custom" once you root it.
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Ok thanks. I guess I'll need to find out how to unroot it then. I've been wanting to check for the 4.4 update. I know it hasn't been OTA'd yet, but still want to be able to check.
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crkdslider said:
Ok thanks. I guess I'll need to find out how to unroot it then. I've been wanting to check for the 4.4 update. I know it hasn't been OTA'd yet, but still want to be able to check.
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Download Wanam from the playstore and install it. Also install the xposed framework if you haven't already. In wanam scroll down to "security hacks" and check "fake system status". Reboot and you should be able to check for updates while rooted.
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440bro said:
Download Wanam from the playstore and install it. Also install the xposed framework if you haven't already. In wanam scroll down to "security hacks" and check "fake system status". Reboot and you should be able to check for updates while rooted.
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This will also hide the custom padlock in the boot animation.

440bro said:
Download Wanam from the playstore and install it. Also install the xposed framework if you haven't already. In wanam scroll down to "security hacks" and check "fake system status". Reboot and you should be able to check for updates while rooted.
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This will also hide the custom padlock in the boot animation.
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So I did this, and no go. I still can't check for updates, and the padlock is still there. I have tried disabling/enabling the check box a couple of times. Any other ideas?

Enable the checkmark. Then it may take a few reboots to make it work. (Make sure XPosed is enabled. I forgot that once.)

Rukbat said:
Enable the checkmark. Then it may take a few reboots to make it work. (Make sure XPosed is enabled. I forgot that once.)
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Ya I did. I will keep trying. The padlock did go away. So the "official" status should allow me to check for updates as well, just to make sure?

You guys apparently have no idea about triangle away...
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crkdslider said:
Ya I did. I will keep trying. The padlock did go away. So the "official" status should allow me to check for updates as well, just to make sure?
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Yes once the padlock is gone, your status is shown as official and you can check for updates.

440bro said:
Yes once the padlock is gone, your status is shown as official and you can check for updates.
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Thanks for helping me get this far.
The padlock is now gone, but I still can't check for updates. It's just an empty tap.

You might have "AT&T software update" froze. Unfreeze it if it is.

440bro said:
You might have "AT&T software update" froze. Unfreeze it if it is.
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Pretty sure that's where I screwed myself. I uninstalled all that AT&T crap thinking it was bloatware. Sounds like I'll need to do a restore for a fresh flash of MJ5.

crkdslider said:
Pretty sure that's where I screwed myself. I uninstalled all that AT&T crap thinking it was bloatware. Sounds like I'll need to do a restore for a fresh flash of MJ5.
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Ahh man that sucks! Looks like your learning your lesson the hard way.
This isn't directed at you, or any one person. But I don't know where you "I deleted bloat and need it now" people learned to delete stuff. BUT STOP DELETING LOL! You must always always always perform a complete app backup FIRST! I highly recommend titanium backup pro. Use it to backup EVERYTHING first. Freeze unwanted apps and use phone for 2 days. If device still works fine then uninstall the app, but keep the backup! A 5 minute backup saves you a 50min restore process.

440bro said:
Ahh man that sucks! Looks like your learning your lesson the hard way.
This isn't directed at you, or any one person. But I don't know where you "I deleted bloat and need it now" people learned to delete stuff. BUT STOP DELETING LOL! You must always always always perform a complete app backup FIRST! I highly recommend titanium backup pro. Use it to backup EVERYTHING first. Freeze unwanted apps and use phone for 2 days. If device still works fine then uninstall the app, but keep the backup! A 5 minute backup saves you a 50min restore process.
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I do use TB. I just apparently don't know how to use it.
EDIT: Would doing just a factory reset on my phone fix that? Or do I need to download a full ROM?

crkdslider said:
I do use TB. I just apparently don't know how to use it.
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When you first install Titanium backup pro you'll see a white box with a checkmark thru it on the top right. That's known as "Batch Actions". Within that menu you'll see category's like verify backups, backup, restore, move/integrate etc..... I recommend running "Backup all user apps + system data". The first time running is slow. Now you'll have EVERYthing backed up. Now to freeze an app, use the menu and scroll to desired app. Select it and choose "freeze". Now the frozen app will be highlighted as you scroll the list. Reboot and run the phone a day or 2. If no glitches arise and you need the space, you can "uninstall" the app. Uninstall it by selecting it and choosing "uninstall". After an app is uninstalled the backup you made will be allllll they way down the list with a line thru it. If you find out you need the uninstalled app, click it and select "restore" then choose "app only". If you choose "app+data" glitches can arise. Especially if you restore a backed up 4.3 app to a 4.4.2 rom.
I hope that lil rundown on titanium helps ya. If I am unclear like I have been before, feel free to shoot another question.
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crkdslider said:
I do use TB. I just apparently don't know how to use it.
EDIT: Would doing just a factory reset on my phone fix that? Or do I need to download a full ROM?
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A factory reset can sometimes fix issues like this. It all depends on how the item was removed. Frozen apps will be restored. But deleted and blitzed apps don't come back from factory resets. You never know till you try, and it can't hurt to try since your about to reflash back to stock anyway. So give it a shot!

440bro said:
When you first install Titanium backup pro you'll see a white box with a checkmark thru it on the top right. That's known as "Batch Actions". Within that menu you'll see category's like verify backups, backup, restore, move/integrate etc..... I recommend running "Backup all user apps + system data". The first time running is slow. Now you'll have EVERYthing backed up. Now to freeze an app, use the menu and scroll to desired app. Select it and choose "freeze". Now the frozen app will be highlighted as you scroll the list. Reboot and run the phone a day or 2. If no glitches arise and you need the space, you can "uninstall" the app. Uninstall it by selecting it and choosing "uninstall". After an app is uninstalled the backup you made will be allllll they way down the list with a line thru it. If you find out you need the uninstalled app, click it and select "restore" then choose "app only". If you choose "app+data" glitches can arise. Especially if you restore a backed up 4.3 app to a 4.4.2 rom.
I hope that lil rundown on titanium helps ya. If I am unclear like I have been before, feel free to shoot another question.
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A factory reset can sometimes fix issues like this. It all depends on how the item was removed. Frozen apps will be restored. But deleted and blitzed apps don't come back from factory resets. You never know till you try, and it can't hurt to try since your about to reflash back to stock anyway. So give it a shot!
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They were uninstalled, so if you are saying it doesn't come back, then I won't waste the time with the Factory Reset. I need to find a guide to flash back to stock. I don't know much about this phone and getting technical with it. I enjoyed it so much just the way it is.

crkdslider said:
They were uninstalled, so if you are saying it doesn't come back, then I won't waste the time with the Factory Reset. I need to find a guide to flash back to stock. I don't know much about this phone and getting technical with it. I enjoyed it so much just the way it is.
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Open your titanium backup, scroll alllll the way down to the bottom of your list and see if you have "Att Software update" with a line thru it. If not and you want to return back to stock follow this thread. Restore for MJ5

440bro said:
Open your titanium backup, scroll alllll the way down to the bottom of your list and see if you have "Att Software update" with a line thru it. If not and you want to return back to stock follow this thread. Restore for MJ5
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Thank you, sir!
The only thing I have at the bottom that have lines through it are AT&T Smart Wi-fi" and "media."
I'll have to follow that thread.

Just out of curiosity, if I took my phone back into an AT&T store and asked them to complete wipe and restore it, do they have a full ROM that they would be putting back on? I wouldn't mind that since I would rather them do it since it's faster. Not much time to mess around with this right now.

A Samsung store should be able to. I'm unsure about an at&t store. Call one by you.

[Q] Cannot enable Hangouts as default SMS app

I have a rooted 4.4 Moto X (non dev version so unlocked bootloader). I can't enable it in the Settings for hangouts (the option is there, but when I click it nothing happens).
I have a few things greenified and frozen in titanium so turned off greenify and unfroze a few things, rebooted, still no change.
I uninstalled the Hangouts app, cleared data and cache, and tried again. Still click it but nothing happens.
Any ideas? thanks in advance

emailrob said:
I have a rooted 4.4 Moto X (non dev version so unlocked bootloader). I can't enable it in the Settings for hangouts (the option is there, but when I click it nothing happens).
I have a few things greenified and frozen in titanium so turned off greenify and unfroze a few things, rebooted, still no change.
I uninstalled the Hangouts app, cleared data and cache, and tried again. Still click it but nothing happens.
Any ideas? thanks in advance
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can you see other options in the system settings?
>Settings (system, not hangouts)
> More... (directly under "data usage")
> "Default SMS app"

Teksu said:
can you see other options in the system settings?
>Settings (system, not hangouts)
> More... (directly under "data usage")
> "Default SMS app"
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Thanks. Under System Settings the only option of default messaging is 'Messaging'. Hangouts is not listed

emailrob said:
Thanks. Under System Settings the only option of default messaging is 'Messaging'. Hangouts is not listed
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Mine also lists titanium backup as an option, though i believe it is because i had it restore my texts. Sounds like something is messed up with the system, might need a factory reset.

Teksu said:
Mine also lists titanium backup as an option, though i believe it is because i had it restore my texts. Sounds like something is messed up with the system, might need a factory reset.
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Weird. This was a new phone - i just unlocked bootloader and rooted. Nothing else.

emailrob said:
Weird. This was a new phone - i just unlocked bootloader and rooted. Nothing else.
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Did you update the latest hangouts and turned on SMS from hangouts then it asks if you want hangouts as default messaging. If not try disabling it which will downgrade it and update it after and try again.
MOTO X SLAPPED

[email protected] said:
Did you update the latest hangouts and turned on SMS from hangouts then it asks if you want hangouts as default messaging. If not try disabling it which will downgrade it and update it after and try again.
MOTO X SLAPPED
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yes I went through and uninstalled updates, and then it updated again in google play store. The OPTION is there to enable it, but when I tap it nothing happens. After it upgraded hangouts, it came up with the 'do you want to enable SMS in hangouts' screen, but again clicks "Yes I'm in" did nothing

emailrob said:
yes I went through and uninstalled updates, and then it updated again in google play store. The OPTION is there to enable it, but when I tap it nothing happens. After it upgraded hangouts, it came up with the 'do you want to enable SMS in hangouts' screen, but again clicks "Yes I'm in" did nothing
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Factory reset will probably be the way to go.
MOTO X SLAPPED

[email protected] said:
Factory reset will probably be the way to go.
MOTO X SLAPPED
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That's what I fear
Will that lose my root? Should I wipe the cache also?
Thanks for the replies, really appreciated.

[Q] Freeze notification for OTA

Rooted non dev VZW Moto X, want to try and freeze the notification to pull the OTA. I froze "updater" in TiBu and I still get it. I also disabled notifications for framework in the apps list and I still get it. Any other suggestions?

tluley51 said:
Rooted non dev VZW Moto X, want to try and freeze the notification to pull the OTA. I froze "updater" in TiBu and I still get it. I also disabled notifications for framework in the apps list and I still get it. Any other suggestions?
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I have XT1053 and not Verizon version. I froze MotorolaOTA 1.0 in TiBu and it took care of update notifications for me. My coworker has Verizon DE edition and it worked for him too. Is that the app that you froze?

JoeSchmoe007 said:
I have XT1053 and not Verizon version. I froze MotorolaOTA 1.0 in TiBu and it took care of update notifications for me. My coworker has Verizon DE edition and it worked for him too. Is that the app that you froze?
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Just froze it, we shall see! Thanks!

Are there any other apps that can freeze beside TiBu? I don't have the donate version.

fury683 said:
Are there any other apps that can freeze beside TiBu? I don't have the donate version.
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I used TiBu so can't help you. It was worth the $6 to me. But you can just download root browser and navigate to /system/priv-app then press and hold 3c_ota.apk and select rename. Rename it 3c_ota.apk.bak. Then when or if you want to take the OTA, just rename it back to 3c_ota.apk.
Also, you can use root browser to delete the OTA file from /cache. Navigate to /cache and find the OTA and then press and hold then select delete.

S-health and S-voice won't update?

Hello everyone,
So i have towel rooted the S5, it's great and works fine except for a couple things. Like the title says, neither s-voice or s-health update. They both keep telling me they have updates but, when I try to update the app force closes. Unfortunately "blank" has stopped. I was wondering is this because of towel root or another reason. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

Namikaze Minato said:
Hello everyone,
So i have towel rooted the S5, it's great and works fine except for a couple things. Like the title says, neither s-voice or s-health update. They both keep telling me they have updates but, when I try to update the app force closes. Unfortunately "blank" has stopped. I was wondering is this because of towel root or another reason. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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do you have xposed install
have you cleared cache??
If you have xposed do here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784945
Then wipe apps cache and done
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carlospr21 said:
do you have xposed install
have you cleared cache??
If you have xposed do here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784945
Then wipe apps cache and done
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I do not have xposed installed. Does this mean I just have to wipe the cache from the settings app?

Yes, thats what he means. Going to app manager and clearing cache
I had updated everything before I used towelroot, so I can only help in saying that a few days ago I updated with no problem.
I might also try a difference between WIFI and Data attempting to update.

Namikaze Minato said:
I do not have xposed installed. Does this mean I just have to wipe the cache from the settings app?
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yes sir or drag it to the app drawer on top it says App Info you can clear it from there
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johns86 said:
Yes, thats what he means. Going to app manager and clearing cache
I had updated everything before I used towelroot, so I can only help in saying that a few days ago I updated with no problem.
I might also try a difference between WIFI and Data attempting to update.
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I just tried to go through app manager and clear the cache and it still doesn't fix the problem. I'm thinking the only way to get around this would to be uproot and then update and root again. My only complaint about that way is - do I have to do that everytime these apps want to update?

Namikaze Minato said:
I just tried to go through app manager and clear the cache and it still doesn't fix the problem. I'm thinking the only way to get around this would to be uproot and then update and root again. My only complaint about that way is - do I have to do that everytime these apps want to update?
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I've updated plenty of apps since then. I wouldn't get carried away right off the bat.
There are several factors that could be preventing it from updating that are out of your control. Next thing I'd try, a stupid, yet simple. turn off, pull battery, turn on and try again. If that doesn't work just wait 12 or 24 hours before attempting again.
Like I said before, stuff out of your control, servers, networks, etc.

Namikaze Minato said:
I just tried to go through app manager and clear the cache and it still doesn't fix the problem. I'm thinking the only way to get around this would to be uproot and then update and root again. My only complaint about that way is - do I have to do that everytime these apps want to update?
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FOUND IT!
I'm sorry for all the trouble guys but I found the problem. What I forgot was that I froze the Samsung appstore app from within titanium backup. Realizing those are Samsung apps and not the playstore apps and defrosting the Samsung appstore is what fixed the problem.
Thank you again for trying to help. Also really sorry for the trouble. Will hit "thanks" to the responders!

Namikaze Minato said:
FOUND IT!
I'm sorry for all the trouble guys but I found the problem. What I forgot was that I froze the Samsung appstore app from within titanium backup. Realizing those are Samsung apps and not the playstore apps and defrosting the Samsung appstore is what fixed the problem.
Thank you again for trying to help. Also really sorry for the trouble. Will hit "thanks" to the responders!
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lol...yea, that'll do it!

Namikaze Minato said:
FOUND IT!
I'm sorry for all the trouble guys but I found the problem. What I forgot was that I froze the Samsung appstore app from within titanium backup. Realizing those are Samsung apps and not the playstore apps and defrosting the Samsung appstore is what fixed the problem.
Thank you again for trying to help. Also really sorry for the trouble. Will hit "thanks" to the responders!
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hahahaha stuff like thats happens when your rooted!!! [emoji38]
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[q] carrier iq removal ???

Hey does anyone know how to remove Carrier IQ on Stock using a root explorer ?? I am rooted.
Carrier IQ is detected on my lovely Note 4 ,but I don't feel like flashing a custom rom to get rid of it until the 5.0 release.
Thanks in advance :good:

EDIT: I just tried using system tuner to stop carrier iq and my phone after reboot went haywire...I kept getting system application manager crashes every few seconds so I tried restarting those services, but still continued to get fc's and finally had no choice, but to restore my backup smh.

T LEONARDIS said:
EDIT: I just tried using system tuner to stop carrier iq and my phone after reboot went haywire...I kept getting system application manager crashes every few seconds so I tried restarting those services, but still continued to get fc's and finally had no choice, but to restore my backup smh.
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I used titanium backup to remove the carrier iq with no problem.

Maybe you can post exactly what you did and help myself/any one else who mite be going through the same problem. Did you chk before and after with a ciq apk to make sure you got rid of it ?
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I believe you freeze the app "System Manager".

Flame Red said:
I believe you freeze the app "System Manager".
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That looks right according to this: https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-14674

fattire said:
That looks right according to this: https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-14674
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I froze the System Manager App in TItanium (Pink Steering Wheel Looking Thing)...and com.carrieriq.blah.blah.blah was still showing up in Amplify with a **** ton of wakelocks. I searched for the same com.carrieriq.blah.blah.blah within Titanium and could find no refernce to it. No reference to anything "IQ" related in Titanium. It seems that even when it's frozen in Titanium...some reference to it somewhere is still kicking it into gear.
Anyone else have a proper method of completely removing CarrierIQ without flashing ROM? Seems like they bake that **** into the system real good.