Hello!
Well, I guess I'm the new (un)lucky owner of my stepfather's Xperia T since he decided Z3 suits him more (not that we are rich, he's just kinda shoppingholic or smth).
I replaced old HTC Wildfire S with it and I was fkin amazed. There was no root or tweak that could ever make that little HTC (who has supported me over the years even after falling in water and all other ****) be even a close match to my shiny new-old XPeria.
However, the phone keeps irritating me with it's charging problems.
I'm an electric engineering student and this crap sounds like connection problem (but I don't wanna admit it to myself), but I still hold your opinions to be very important since well....you guys know this phone through it's soul.
Here is the weird thing...
I got it with it's original charger while I still had a charger I used to charge my HTC. It was some old nokia cable and was charging HTC perfectly, always without a problem, but Xperia always seemed to have a bad connection with it. I tried it's original charger and almost the same. That was bearable until last few days, connection was starting to grow so weak, it took me like half an hour to make the damn phone charge. Worst thing, battery run dry, so can you imagine that feeling when you have to wait 5 seconds before the battery logo does it's animation before you can actually realize if your phone is charging or just "ate a spark".
I've searched on google and many people seem to be having similar, even though much worse problems (phone does not react to the charger at all) and I'm actually afraid that's where my dear Xperia is going.
Weird thing is when I visited my parents last week, I tried plugging it into my mother's charger (S4 charger) the phone started charging immediately, I tried rocking the charger a little left and right, and it didn't seem to distract it.
Tried friend's charger, same problems again!
Can't figure out what the problem might be...I thought it was the cable, then the port, now I don't know what to think of anymore.
Help please!
Thanks guys!
UPDATE:
OK, while I was writing the post and doing other stuff, the phone was charging, I disconnected it now to check for battery level, I succesfully turned it on (no more double red blinking) but the phone just showed PIN screen and Turning off.. note appeared. Which means after half an hour of charging, the battery is at the same level....?
Should I let it charge overnight?
I mean I don't feel comfortable doing it since I can't see the battery and my landlord has no tools in the whole apartment...Maybe the battery might be damaged...
Try your mother's USB cable with your recharger.
I guess it's your USB port that is dying.. .
PS now I know what's a stepfather.. LOL.. Thank you XDA (and thank you Google Translator)
istux said:
Try your mother's USB cable with your recharger.
I guess it's your USB port that is dying.. .
PS now I know what's a stepfather.. LOL.. Thank you XDA (and thank you Google Translator)
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Yeah, I was thinking of doing that, but it's going to be a problem talking her into it
Well, I'm glad you learnt it haha
Wohoo!
Successfully turned it on, after 20minutes of charging it's at 1% and hopefully it's gonna go up!
Oh! In the meantime the phone just turned off again showing empty battery while it was still charging! O.O
FU Sony. Telling my shoppingholic stepdad not to waste money on Z3. -.-
Try to clean the USB port with cotton and alcohol. Maybe it's only some dirt over the metallic contacts.
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Try to clean the USB port with cotton and alcohol. Maybe it's only some dirt over the metallic contacts.
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I'll try it, but still doesn't explain why the battery is still at minimum charge.
I left it to charge overnight, I'll tell you guys if things got better in the morning.
Good night and thanks for help!
Well, couldn't wait. Turned it on again. 32% as we speak.
Let's se what you've got for me this time Xperia...
By the way, I know the battery is most common problem on this cell, it kept restarting for my stepdad, he got the battery replaced already....
Well, fully charged today....who knows what the problem might have been...
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Well, fully charged today....who knows what the problem might have been...
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So the battery is okay.
The problem could be: some dirt, a USB metallic pin bent or broken, the USB port entirely broken, or just an UFO that steals your energy only when you connect it to the recharger
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So the battery is okay.
The problem could be: some dirt, a USB metallic pin bent or broken, the USB port entirely broken, or just an UFO that steals your energy only when you connect it to the recharger
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Well there has been some UFO activity recently around here, I bet it's them haha
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I managed to fry my kaisers circuits by plugging a 4 AMP car charger into the USB power port.
It only took one second, i smelled the smoke and instantly unplugged the cable, but it was too late.
Surprisingly the device was still powered and functioning, so i didn't freak out. The battery was already dead. after around 30 seconds it died again, i walked back home and tried charging it with mains adapter with no luck.
Next morning, i took my handset to a local electronics repair shop to check it, and i told them the story. they called me back and said the motherboard needs to be replaced. and it would cost me around $470. (and its not covered by manufacturers warranty. ouch!!)
After hours of cursing and smashing my head into the steering wheel, i thought i'll pick it back and try something my self.
the part where the device stayed on even after the smoke came out led me to believe that the board is still fine. and that only the charging port got fried.
the problem is, I don't have a desk charger to charge my battery and test my theory, a disassembly guide would also be very helpful.
if the main mother board was really fried, is there any place that i can buy it from? i did some goggling around with no luck.Anything cheaper than what these guys are asking for would be great, i have a feeling they are trying to rip me off.
If any of you guys can help me out, id be grateful.
hoaxbox said:
I managed to fry my kaisers circuits by plugging a 4 AMP car charger into the USB power port.
It only took one second, i smelled the smoke and instantly unplugged the cable, but it was too late.
Surprisingly the device was still powered and functioning, so i didn't freak out. The battery was already dead. after around 30 seconds it died again, i walked back home and tried charging it with mains adapter with no luck.
Next morning, i took my handset to a local electronics repair shop to check it, and i told them the story. they called me back and said the motherboard needs to be replaced. and it would cost me around $470. (and its not covered by manufacturers warranty. ouch!!)
After hours of cursing and smashing my head into the steering wheel, i thought i'll pick it back and try something my self.
the part where the device stayed on even after the smoke came out led me to believe that the board is still fine. and that only the charging port got fried.
the problem is, I don't have a desk charger to charge my battery and test my theory, a disassembly guide would also be very helpful.
if the main mother board was really fried, is there any place that i can buy it from? i did some goggling around with no luck.Anything cheaper than what these guys are asking for would be great, i have a feeling they are trying to rip me off.
If any of you guys can help me out, id be grateful.
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I have a brand new AT&T Tilt ( kaiserII HTC8925) for sale i can sell to you for $375.00 New In the box never been used. PM me if interested.
Sorry I can't help in this matter, but I thought i would post this here rather than start a whole new thread.
I have heard lots of horror stories of in-car chargers frying kaisers. Has anyone got an in-car charger that works?
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Sorry I can't help in this matter, but I thought i would post this here rather than start a whole new thread.
I have heard lots of horror stories of in-car chargers frying kaisers. Has anyone got an in-car charger that works?
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Order one that is made for the Kaiser...a lot of people are trying to use old chargers just cause the tip is the same.
I got my stuff from PocketSolutions.com
Car chargers that work for the 8525 should work fine for the 8925. It just can't do that "boost" charging feature the Tilt supposedly has.
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Car chargers that work for the 8525 should work fine for the 8925. It just can't do that "boost" charging feature the Tilt supposedly has.
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hmmm.. thats got me scared, cuz im using a razr charger for my tilt. ive used it multiple times with no probs so far...hope its not damaging my phone tho
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hmmm.. thats got me scared, cuz im using a razr charger for my tilt. ive used it multiple times with no probs so far...hope its not damaging my phone tho
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That one won't damage the Kaiser, but it has only half the mA of the proper one. This can sometimes cause problems if the charge level of the battery is very low. For charging from time to time and when battery isn't near empty you will be ok.
Mike
well a quick tip would probably be checking the fuze on your charger, anything below an amp wouldnt do much damage. -.-;
4 amps fried my tilts motherboard, so watch out guys
still looking for a service manual, now that my phone is dead, i want to dissect it,
I'm using a cheapy chinese one made for an Imate Jam if that helps.
Joe
the part of the board responsible for charging is probably what went up in smoke - you probably smelt (smelled?) resistors/capacitors overheating/melting - they said a total mobo replace as that circuitry is probably all on the same board - sure you might be able to replace it yourself but i dunno - might be a bit of a mega mission what with all these micro components around on these sorts of device
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the part of the board responsible for charging is probably what went up in smoke - you probably smelt (smelled?) resistors/capacitors overheating/melting - they said a total mobo replace as that circuitry is probably all on the same board - sure you might be able to replace it yourself but i dunno - might be a bit of a mega mission what with all these micro components around on these sorts of device
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Yep, these devices now have multilayer boards that make it virtually impossible to do a bit of home soldering/component replacement on.
Bring back the days of my youth when we had valves (tubes in US I believe), they were nice - and kept your hands warm as you soldered away in a freezing garage
Mike
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I opened up the case and unscrewed my way to the burnt part of the board.
thanks to mike and the manual he posted on some other fourm
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocke...58716/HTC-Service-Manuals-Dismantling-Guides/
This is the main board
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7447/ks1jj3.jpg
This is the same board from the other side with the burnt IC
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2717/ks2wi1.jpg
And a close up
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4416/ks3nv1.jpg
Closer
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5944/ks4lu6.jpg
Okay now i can at least see where the damage is.
Still stubborn that i am, I did not believe that this IC killed the entire mobo, so i invested in a desk charger for the battery and charged it up fully.
I just tested it now and to my surprise it WORKED!!
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5070/ks5vj6.jpg
Of course, my joy ride did not last for long as the device started heating up. I switched it back off once i felt the abnormal amount of heat generated.
I tried it again after it cooled down. This time I kept it for around three mins, and again it heated up, at the end of, it just shut it self off. (still heating up).
After that scary little experiment i learned few things:
1- The device motherboard is alive, there is no need to replace the entire board.
2- The burnt IC is probably meant to control the usb port and the power, therefore my usb port is useless at this stage.
3- charging the battery externally wont help much without resolving the heat issue.
I tried to look up diagrams for the devices board and the only thing i could found is this:
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/diagram_msm7200_cs.pdf
which is useless.
Any help would be much appreciated..
cheers
Can anyone help me with this?
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5944/ks4lu6.jpg
the chip burnt shown in the picture above needs to be replaced on my tytnz mobo.
can anyone give me more details about it or where can i find a replacement, all i could read on it is the (QRA) part, if anyone has a tytn II could you have a closer look, grab me a serial number maybe.
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Can anyone help me with this?
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5944/ks4lu6.jpg
the chip burnt shown in the picture above needs to be replaced on my tytnz mobo.
can anyone give me more details about it or where can i find a replacement, all i could read on it is the (QRA) part, if anyone has a tytn II could you have a closer look, grab me a serial number maybe.
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anyone? lols still waiting btw
am sure most of the kaiser form viewers have a kaiser.
if any of you do can you please check that chip on your device board, i have lost mine and trying to replace it.
check if theres anything written on it, any information about it would be could be helpful.
thanks
Yesterday I wanted to load my HD2 so I plugged the charger into the socket and connected the HD2 to the charger. Just like always the HD2 began to load.
About one hour later there was a very burned smell in my room. I unplugged the charger. And this is the result:
Is there only me having this problem ?
I think this is a very serious problem that needs to be addressed to HTC if not done yet by someone, a friend´s apartment got caught on fire because a htc charger, same problem I assume , I guess we need to keep the charger on sight when in use to avoid a disgrace.
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I think this is a very serious problem that needs to be addressed to HTC if not done yet by someone, a friend´s apartment got caught on fire because a htc charger, same problem I assume , I guess we need to keep the charger on sight when in use to avoid a disgrace.
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I hope my old charger from my touch diamond will not have the same problem sometime
Same problem with the charger of my Xperia X1 (also HTC), smoke came out the charger.
Ouch. I keep mine on a hardwood floor, but this time of year it's always a good idea to keep a eye on power packs and chargers. I've always thought my charger ran remarkably cool, I run a cradle off of my charger and frequently charge the phone and battery at the same time, I think I'll give it a heat-check next time I have them both on charge.
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Same problem with the charger of my Xperia X1 (also HTC), smoke came out the charger.
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Oh my god they killed...erm
By the way, are you sure that Xperia 1 is...HTC!!!???
Last time I heard it was Sony-Erickson...
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Oh my god they killed...erm
By the way, are you sure that Xperia 1 is...HTC!!!???
Last time I heard it was Sony-Erickson...
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But made by HTC...
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But made by HTC...
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oh right...
my phone manufacturer's hierarchy is all confused now...
Anyway, ok then HTC sucks
Just wondering if you just leave your charger on even when it isnt charging?
I am just using my onyx charger to charge my htc and now this i doubt i would use htc charger to charge my phone .
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Just wondering if you just leave your charger on even when it isnt charging?
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Normaly I remove it if I don't use it
Saves energy and fire... normaly
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Yesterday I wanted to load my HD2 so I plugged the charger into the socket and connected the HD2 to the charger. Just like always the HD2 began to load.
About one hour later there was a very burned smell in my room. I unplugged the charger. And this is the result:
Is there only me having this problem ?
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That sucks... Since HD2 has standard mini USB connector. I use either the charger from "late" Xperia X1 or my Samsung Omnia HD. No problem there
Yep my charger is hot
I did not notice before this thread, but yesterday I charged my HD2, and I touch the charger, and it was peaty hot. I do not like this...
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I did not notice before this thread, but yesterday I charged my HD2, and I touch the charger, and it was peaty hot. I do not like this...
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I don't understand why they changed the charger cause my old charger from the touch diamond is not even a little bit hot. Maybe it's cheaper for HTC
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I don't understand why they changed the charger cause my old charger from the touch diamond is not even a little bit hot. Maybe it's cheaper for HTC
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Maybe they thought that this charger would be better. But in real world everything is not perfect...Unfortunately
I reciveved my phone yesterday and after playing with it for a few hours I charged it last night and noticed it became hot to the touch in a few minutes of being plugged in. Like burn your hand hot and there was a bit of a hot plastic smell coming off it. I unplugged it let it rest. Today I have no usb access to it. No adb, no fastboot. Lsusb shows no devices etc.
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I reciveved my phone yesterday and after playing with it for a few hours I charged it last night and noticed it became hot to the touch in a few minutes of being plugged in. Like burn your hand hot and there was a bit of a hot plastic smell coming off it. I unplugged it let it rest. Today I have no usb access to it. No adb, no fastboot. Lsusb shows no devices etc.
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Xplodwild tweeted out the other day about issue with USB charging similar to this. Does the same happen when AC charging?
Is this problem similar to this guy?
Watch out for overheating!
seems to be a similar issue - it was very hot on the back side just below the camera especially I'm just afraid it got too hot and something was damaged.
This explains why google was pushing their bumpers instead of a full case I can't imagine a case would be good for this things thermal characteristics.
This happened while charging via ac when charging via usb it just seems to hold steady at whatever level the battery was.
Just out of interest, what surface did you leave it on all night?
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Just out of interest, what surface did you leave it on all night?
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I left it on a wooden desk for 5 to 10 minutes it didn't take long
It is no longer charging. I can't get it back to stock to rma I'm not happy :crying:
Woah, all other nexus 4 problems aside, this one is quite serious.
Just imagine what would have happened if you'd have left it on a easily flammable surface and wouldn't have noticed the heat. Worst case scenario might have been a fire or something like that.
If this really is a common problem (I've already seen at least two people reporting similar issues), we might see a big recall campaign quite soon.
I guess you don't really want the LiPo battery in your phone burst like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3o_2mwRPdw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Maybe Google should start to sell these bags instead of the bumper
Where you using the provided USB-AC adapter?
I know that my friends GS2 and GS3 got really hot when using my playbook wall charger (rated at 5v ~1.8A) :S
Heard of similiar issues with nexus 7, but the one I'm aware of is still charging.
I haven't experienced this issue yet?
I contacted google play they were quite happy to send me a replacement. Aparently they held back stock in case of a need for returns. HOWEVER they tried to charge an authorization hold on my account in the ammount of $350 I DONT HAVE ANY DAMNED MONEY I JUST SPENT IT on their ****! The only other option they said was to return it for a refund and wait a large number of weeks for orders to open up again or send it directly to LG for the same treatment ?!? I'm PISSED. The guy said that this was not the first case he'd heard of like mine didn't even ask any questions except for the serial number - I'd expect that there are going to be quite a few issues like this.
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Is this problem similar to this guy?
Watch out for overheating!
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Yeah, sounds like my problem. Was your microUSB port also loose/creaky like mine? I got Google to RMA me a new one. It's a shame, I love this phone and this one has no give on the screen whatsoever and no rattle. The port though and the screen flicker are another story...
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I don't have screen flicker yet and the port isn't lose I'm thinking somebody cut some corners on the voltage regulation
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HOWEVER they tried to charge an authorization hold on my account in the ammount of $350 I DONT HAVE ANY DAMNED MONEY I JUST SPENT IT on their ****!
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Damn, I guess this is sorta good news for all the folks (myself included) whose banks dropped the authorization, haven't had Google recharge us, and have the phone in hand.
I have an HTC One M7 that I have been happy with for nearly 2 years. Yesterday I plugged it in to the charger in the car that I have used hundreds of times and there was a little wisp of smoke and now the USB port doesn't seem to work. I can't charge it and it isn't recognised by the computer. Everything about the phone works ok, but I can't get any power into it!
I have it rooted and have ViperOne running and the problem is I don't think there is enough battery to get it back to stock to send back for warranty!
Can anyone suggest any method of charging? Long shot I know...
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I have an HTC One M7 that I have been happy with for nearly 2 years. Yesterday I plugged it in to the charger in the car that I have used hundreds of times and there was a little wisp of smoke and now the USB port doesn't seem to work. I can't charge it and it isn't recognised by the computer. Everything about the phone works ok, but I can't get any power into it!
I have it rooted and have ViperOne running and the problem is I don't think there is enough battery to get it back to stock to send back for warranty!
Can anyone suggest any method of charging? Long shot I know...
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I had the same problem with the smoke, and I left it to sit for about a year. Usually, they don't turn on the phone to check it's "stockness" and even if they did, if you keep turning on your phone enough until it is absolutely dead, they can't recover it without replacing the charge port. I decided to replace the charge port, and let me tell you, there IS a glue around the sides that you have to heat up to take off. I would recommend buying a charge port w/ flex cable and taking it to an electronic repair shop and hopefully the guy understand what to do. I did it myself but pretty much destroyed the phone, so if you can make sure it is completely dead and send it in they cannot check if it is rooted or not.
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I had the same problem with the smoke, and I left it to sit for about a year. Usually, they don't turn on the phone to check it's "stockness" and even if they did, if you keep turning on your phone enough until it is absolutely dead, they can't recover it without replacing the charge port. I decided to replace the charge port, and let me tell you, there IS a glue around the sides that you have to heat up to take off. I would recommend buying a charge port w/ flex cable and taking it to an electronic repair shop and hopefully the guy understand what to do. I did it myself but pretty much destroyed the phone, so if you can make sure it is completely dead and send it in they cannot check if it is rooted or not.
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Cheers, I've taken your advice, drained the battery completely and sent it off for warranty. I did read something that said warranty shouldn't be affected unless the custom software is the cause of the fault so will cross my fingers...
The warranty is voided even if it is not the cause.
Hey people, has anyone had this kind of problem, the phone shows its charging, even when powered off the charging splash screen appears, but the battery doesnt get any juice.
I wonder if its the usb daughter board of the motherboard... any clues to how to know which is causing this ?
Try a new battery
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Hey people, has anyone had this kind of problem, the phone shows its charging, even when powered off the charging splash screen appears, but the battery doesnt get any juice.
I wonder if its the usb daughter board of the motherboard... any clues to how to know which is causing this ?
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Sounds like battery is dead.
(edit: lol didn't read the post before mines, oh well..)
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Well the thing is i bought this thing used (and got screwed over, yay), and it had 94% of the charge at first when i got it. and it was not slow to recharge or anything.. got good use out of it during the day.
how would have the guy selling this have charged a dead battery to 95? So far im thinking its either the usb daugther board (not too expensive to fix) or the motherboard (im f***ed)