Carrier specfical ROMS and Kernals etc? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Planning to get a AT&T Nexus 6 as soon as AT&T and Moto stop jerking us around and I was curious as this is going to be my first Nexus device but are these phones going to be carrier specific with ROM and Kernal releases or are Nexus devices universal across the carriers?

From what I understand other than the extra stuff on the AT&T phone these are identical hardware and software so it should be all the same. But I'm no dev so I could be wrong

No, there no carrier specific Roms!
These are Nexus devices! It is the standard AOSP. There is no bloat that can't be removed either. And nothing is locked.

jimbridgman said:
No, there no carrier specific Roms!
These are Nexus devices! It is the standard AOSP. There is no bloat that can't be removed either. And nothing is locked.
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What does that mean? Not the case for every nexus..... The nexus s and the gnex both had carrier specific roms, even on the nexus 5 there had to be separate tweaks to get data working on Sprint. Not all nexus are created equal! But we should be good for the most part for this device

Smallsmx3 said:
What does that mean? Not the case for every nexus..... The nexus s and the gnex both had carrier specific roms, even on the nexus 5 there had to be separate tweaks to get data working on Sprint. Not all nexus are created equal! But we should be good for the most part for this device
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Those were the earlier days, and yes Sprint had additional things to be added to make it work on Sprint at the beginning but then it became unified.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5 theres only 1 Original Dev and 1 Dev forums.
For the N6, theres only 2 models. International and Americas. It will be integrated together similarly to N5.

On my Sprint Nexus 6 there's a submenu in settings for updating profile and PRL. Is this an add on or would that be erased with a custom ROM based on the Play Store Nexuses?

Having one of the Nexuses (Nexii?) that people have the greatest fear that it has been mutilated by the vendor (AT&T vendor-purchased Nex6)--I can safely say there has been minimal folding or spindling, and the kernel is the same as on the GPlay Nex6.
The only differences:
a) So far AT&T is the sole vendor that makes use of the /oem partition (for OEM specific startup screens and ringtones). Shock and horror, I tell you. Also easily removable when rooted and it doesn't hurt the phone at all.
(As an aside...I'm kind of shocked that nobody has yet realised this gives some real opportunities for those who like to do mods to startup screens. We could easily replace the standard Deathstar initial bootup screen with, oh, something that might make both AT&T AND Lucasfilm cranky simultaneously. Or something completely different)
b) Putting an AT&T SIM in triggers download of three tiny apps (basically a "device help", aka Smartphones for Noobs, some "AT&T Live" thing that is genuinely cruft, and the AT&T account manager app). Both are easily and painlessly removable via Google Play.
c) A Deathstar logo on the back. This, too, is easily correctable with the applied use of a little Everclear or acetone and a little elbow grease

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Anyone else upset...

...that there will most likely never ever be an official superphone Nexus 2?
With the online store a relative failure, we will probably have to buy new phones from our carriers (or from the manufacturers God willing) and yea...kinda sucks.
I wish Google REALLY tried to change the game and A) made sure HTC used the absolute BEST materials and hardware for the N1, B) priced it at like 300 without contract and 100 on contract and C) MARKETED THE HELL OUT OF IT
oh well... :-/
I see the Nexus one as a Massive success, personally. Check out all of the newer android phones on the market since it was released.
Compare to the HTC Hero, Samsung Moment, or Moto Droid.
Would definitely be a bummed. I was only going to buy nexus successors, with all the damn new choices all the damn time that would've given some order to my life. Plus its the only reason I renewed with t-mobile. Ill hold out hope at least until January 5th...
Nexus 2
Man that sucks, It would mean that the Nexus 1 is my last Android phone! (I'm waiting on the Nexus 2)
The Nexus One may not have been the insanely high volume sales success of other devices out there. But that doesn't mean it was a failure. In fact, IIRC, Google has come out and said that based on the sales figure, it has technically been a success for them. Whether or not there will be a "Nexus Two" is purely speculation at this point. There's only one way to find out (wait).
And either way, I doubt there will be any disappointment either way. If there is a Nexus Two, then everyone here can go WOOHOO! And if there isn't a Nexus Two, I'm sure something will come out around its ETA that is equally as stunning to those waiting for it.
regardless if there is or isnt going to be a Nexus 2 the Nexus 1 is an amazing phone and has begun aging gracefully. I can say that any Android phone i get in the future i will judge it on how awesome it is/isnt in comparison to my Nexus 1
Did you know that the 2 most discussed device specific sub forums here are the the HD2 and the Nexus sub forums?
What does that tell you?
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Did you know that the 2 most discussed device specific sub forums here are the the HD2 and the Nexus sub forums?
What does that tell you?
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That we're a bunch of social butterflies and those "other people" are the silent types.
slowz3r said:
regardless if there is or isnt going to be a Nexus 2 the Nexus 1 is an amazing phone and has begun aging gracefully. I can say that any Android phone i get in the future i will judge it on how awesome it is/isnt in comparison to my Nexus 1
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+1. And, it's nice knowing that updates will continue to come straight from Google while others will be at the mercy of the carriers. I rarely keep a phone for more than 6 months or so, but I can't see giving up my N1 anytime soon.
AvengerBB said:
+1. And, it's nice knowing that updates will continue to come straight from Google while others will be at the mercy of the carriers. I rarely keep a phone for more than 6 months or so, but I can't see giving up my N1 anytime soon.
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I see all these "new" phones coming out with 1Ghz processors and AMOLED screens and such and i always go "been there done that". Phones IMHO are just now catching up to the Nexus.
So unless there is something "new" that my nexus doesn't have then i wont be getting a new phone any time soon. And by something new i dont mean a bigger screen because i should be able to put a phone in my pocket without feeling like its gonna break in half, or it makes it uncomfortable to sit down. *cough cough EVO and Droid*
Erm, I thought you could still buy the nexus one sim free from shops, or at least expansys.
I think we'll be spoilt for choice even if there isn't a "nexus two" because HTC are obviously comitted to android phones and aside from various other brands Samsung seem to have come out with a really nice phone in the Galaxy S.
the main reason I got the N1 was because it's uncluttered from carrier overlays, it's 'pure' android (i switched from an iPhone 3G) - and I prefer being contract free.
I hope there is a N2, although I do like the looks of the Droid X (I'm in Europe though). there's plenty of life left in my N1 ...
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I'm not upset in the slightest.
Yes there are other phones out there with similar/better specs...but from the a developers stand point, its there favorite toy at the moment.
I'm glad that the Nexus One came because it set a new standard beyond the 528 MHz Qualcomms that Android devices were stuck on, and even now has barely been eclipsed in terms of speed or features. There are no phones out right now that I would consider a true upgrade from the N1, more of a side-grade.
I agree we will never see a Nexus Two, and yes, it does make me sad.
I HATE carrier provided phones
They're always laden with ****ware.
There will always be an ADP (Android developer phone) It just may not be called Nexus.
Clarkster said:
There will always be an ADP (Android developer phone) It just may not be called Nexus.
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But none of the developer phones have supported the AT&T or Rogers 3G bands. I'm afraid that no Nexus 2 means no more AT&T support on developer phones.
Dammit.
where is there a competitive smarthphone today that is $300 unsubsidized period?
Given the business and licensing model of Android, there will always have to be some kind of benchmark. Something that defines the minimum spec needed to run new OS versions. What features are needed, what hardware is required, what level of overhead can developers use for their apps. This wasn't as important when there was only 4 models around, 3 of which were from the same manufacturer.
This benchmark doesn't need to be made available to consumers, see the Android Dev phones released prior to the N1. It does need to exist. However, Google also seems interested in pushing the exterior to look as polished as the guts, so if you're going through the expense of creating hardware, software and a casing, why not sell it?
Besides with the N1 just now becoming available in B&M stores worldwide (Vodafone aside), it's consumer success/failure is just now being decided.
the two main reasons i love the nexus are that it has cutting edge hardware, and i was (still am) hoping a new one would come each year, like the iphone. It would be nice to be able to depend on a yearly upgrade, then i could sit back and enjoy the insanity around me that is the ever evolving, ultra competitive, Android industry...i love it, i just cant keep up with it, i need some sort of order and stability in my life!

[Q] looking for purchase advice

I am seriously looking at the HTC one as my next device.
First a little history - I currently run a HTC Vivid which sadly was a great phone with little support. Fortunately for me, I have been running WCX illuminati roms for the past 2 years, so that was as good as it ever got for this device.
Now, I am on AT&T, however my employer pays my monthly bill which is a huge blessing, however I have to fully fund my phones at full price, with no allowable discounts, as our wireless devices are managed by a company called tangoe, so going into an AT&T store is a no go, unless I pay full price.
All that considered, I have 3 options, pay full price in an AT&T store, the HTC developers edition, or the google play edition. All 3 are very close in price, but which is my best option, considering I know I will be running custom roms for the most part.
I do like sense, at least from my experience with WCX roms in the past. However open to running vanilla android if no go tweaked roms are out there. Suggestions?
One more detail,
I really like the thought of a bigger screen, as tiny text is difficult to read, I see there is possible an HTC ONE MAX coming to the US this fall, wondering if I should hold out for that one?
wmunn said:
I am seriously looking at the HTC one as my next device.
First a little history - I currently run a HTC Vivid which sadly was a great phone with little support. Fortunately for me, I have been running WCX illuminati roms for the past 2 years, so that was as good as it ever got for this device.
Now, I am on AT&T, however my employer pays my monthly bill which is a huge blessing, however I have to fully fund my phones at full price, with no allowable discounts, as our wireless devices are managed by a company called tangoe, so going into an AT&T store is a no go, unless I pay full price.
All that considered, I have 3 options, pay full price in an AT&T store, the HTC developers edition, or the google play edition. All 3 are very close in price, but which is my best option, considering I know I will be running custom roms for the most part.
I do like sense, at least from my experience with WCX roms in the past. However open to running vanilla android if no go tweaked roms are out there. Suggestions?
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I would go with the HTC developer or AT&T and get the 64Gb model (and then install a custom ROM or at least superuser to get rid of AT&T bloat).
If you don't need that much storage, go for the GE.
I've not heard that the MAX is going to be released in the US.
32 gb is way too much storage for me. I'd recommend One to everyone! I thought I'd hate blinkfeed, but it's pretty neat. Boomsound is a huge plus. The screen is the best, period. Support will be plenty thanks to xda. Camera is just what I'd imagine, and even a bit better in dark situations. The front camera is very good and it's wide lens a huge plus.
Things to know. Check the camera. If the picture is anything but black, it might be broken or need an update.
Check for gaps near the speakers. Some are better than others.
My phone (black One) had some black paint spill on the edge near the volume rocker. Impossible to remove. So there's obviously some problems with manufacturing. I'm happy with this any way.
Edit: I don't have solid evidence to back this up, just some testing of my own. The Samsung GS4 seems to have a better antenna than my phone. Tired a couple of different radio firmwares and it was always worse.
T9'd from my black HTC One M7
Do you need 64GB or is 32 enough? Because that can affect what options are available to you. Aside from that, all three are basically the same hardware-wise. The AT&T and HTC Dev editions will have the same HBOOT bootloader and same Sense ROM, except the AT&T one comes with AT&T bloatware apps installed and skinned network icons in the status bar. The Google Edition will come with a different bootloader, recovery, and (obviously) OS.
After you unlock your bootloader and install a custom recovery, however, you can easily** switch back and fourth between all of these different configurations, given that the underlying hardware is the same (the only exception would be if you were using a Verizon or other non-AT&T model).
** Note that switching the bootloader/radio/recovery itself can be a bit more tricky as it requires S-OFF and you probably shouldn't be doing that very frequently. Switching ROMs itself, however, is no problem. The only reason you would really need to switch out something like your bootloader is if you want to receive OTA (over the air) updates. I.e. if you want OTA updates for the GE (Google Edition) you will need to be running the GE recovery and bootloader and all that and if you want Sense OTA updates from HTC then you need to be running HBOOT, etc.

Nexus to be replaced by Android Silver Handsets (rumored)

Here's an interesting article I just came across on the Verge about a few sources saying the Google will retire the Nexus Line and reboot it with Android Silver handsets that will be sold in stores and highly marketed, but with presumably higher specs.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/29/5664702/google-nexus-to-be-replaced-by-android-silver
International Buinsess Article
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5504...-release-date-specs-features.htm#.U2LtifldV8E
"The rumoured "Android Silver" line will replace the Nexus program. The line included more high-end and more expensive devices. It was claimed that Google wants to focus on giving consumers devices that are bumped in the hardware side while enjoying pure Android experience." (International Business)
What do you think? I would be willing to go for a all around premium "Nexus" phone as long as the cost wasn't too much and it worked on all major carriers.
simms22 said:
i call bs.
as every year there is another rumor that there wont be another nexus, yet every year comes a nexus.
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I'm hoping that this is not true, if it is, we should start an online petition to keep the Nexus brand going.. I hate bloatware, carrier logos and all of the other nonsense that comes on phones from the carriers. My last few phones have been Nexus devices, and everytime i buy a carrier branded phone, i just end up selling it or returning it. Once you go nexus you cant go back..
Just my .02 cents.
I just posted two similar links here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52289003
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I think that is only one more rumor surrounding Nexus brand
Google can call the program whatever they want to call it. As long as they offer a device with vanilla Android, without carrier and manufacturer bloatware, with at least mid-range specs at a reasonable price I'm happy.
Rumors only...lock it before it spreads! eeek
Guys we have the last nexus Google can't keep making this phone it hurts its partners and now with the one plus one there is no point. I prefer a premium device instead of the cuts made to nexus like battery and camera
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Some of you guys are still in the negation phase
i mean, i love the nexus line too, but there are many indications that Android Silver is going to become a reality soon, some of the leakers of this news are credible sources and probably with direct connections in Google itself (well at least more credible than random people on a forum stating the opposite with no clues whatsoever) . You do the maths.
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Guys we have the last nexus Google can't keep making this phone it hurts its partners and now with the one plus one there is no point.
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I hope you are joking. The OnePlus is not even on Google's radar. I would assume the Android Silver program is true based on who is reporting it. At the end of the day, Google isn't going to stop offering an affordable Android phone with vanilla Android. It seems the silver program is just extending the GPE program to carriers. Surely, they aren't killing off the Play Store so there are no worries. Whether or not they call their phones "Nexus" phones doesn't matter to me because one will still be available from the Play Store.
Cautiously optimistic about this. Could be interesting.
I hope they keep the competitive pricing...
I feel the android manufacturers and carriers are never going to want a reasonably priced google phone that is heavily marketed next to their pricy flagships. Something about it doesn't add up. If they are GPe priced i'm sure the carriers and manufacturers wouldn't mind but then marketing that is much harder and they wouldn't sell many. I just can't picture them being welcome in retail next to the other phones.
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idk, Android Silver concept first came in light few months back, and that time it was in the rumor stage, but now verge is reporting it and verge isn't one to bull**** users. Verge also has close contacts with Google, and it's sources can be trusted. Though I hope this DOESN'T happen. Also, next nexus will come this year, the android silver concept is staged for 2015.
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Verge after the Galaxy Nexus era is as much bullsh*t as the rest. Their review for the Nexus 5 is a joke for an example.
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Here's some more information about the possible Android Silver.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5504...-release-date-specs-features.htm#.U2LtifldV8E
"The rumoured "Android Silver" line will replace the Nexus program. The line included more high-end and more expensive devices. It was claimed that Google wants to focus on giving consumers devices that are bumped in the hardware side while enjoying pure Android experience." (International Business)
That's an even ****tier source than The Verge!
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IBtimes should be banned from posting anything about technology until they can do some fact checking. It's nothing but a clickbait site with a bunch of repeated in(or mis)formation.
This Android Silver idea sounds like it really could be a benefit if Google truly does put serious effort into it. I just think android has gotten to a point now that serious changes like this need to be considered in order to help potentially solve the issues many developers have (by having just a few "focus" devices every year". I own an iPad as well as N5 and I must say that the quality of most apps for the iPad are consistently phenomenal; I unfortunately can't say that in my experience with android (though the situation has majorly improved I'd say in the past year or so)
Melamunna said:
IBtimes should be banned from posting anything about technology until they can do some fact checking. It's nothing but a clickbait site with a bunch of repeated in(or mis)formation.
This Android Silver idea sounds like it really could be a benefit if Google truly does put serious effort into it. I just think android has gotten to a point now that serious changes like this need to be considered in order to help potentially solve the issues many developers have (by having just a few "focus" devices every year". I own an iPad as well as N5 and I must say that the quality of most apps for the iPad are consistently phenomenal; I unfortunately can't say that in my experience with android (though the situation has majorly improved I'd say in the past year or so)
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It's not often you see a non-geek for example carrying a Nexus 5. Those people would rather go for huge flagships that show up on TV. Google wants a piece of the pie now and so they're probably going the same route as Samsung while keeping Android as vanilla as possible. Besides if the Project Hera theme is to be true, the home button now says Google. Google is slowly but surely inserting their brand name into everything to directly compete with Apple and Samsung devices and services.
The Nexus 5 advocate (Team Inferno)
Still think that this whole android silver thing is going to be similar to Google Play Edtion ( GPE ) phones.
There will be Xperia Z3 silver edition, HTC one M9 silver edition , Samsung Galaxy S6 Silver edition. All running vanilla android.
Just my 2 cents.
To me the issue is what you can and can't do in these supposed silver editions. Will they all have the freedom to flash this that and the other thing, downgrade boot loaders at will....etc etc.
The current developer edition phones of other makers still usually don't come with the freedom of a nexus. Not totally.
Again, my example is the moto x. All moto x's, including the developer edition, can't downgrade their os after flashing 4.4.2. The boot loader won't allow it. And those that find a way to downgrade, and make one false move....brick their phones. So that phone is not even close to the flexibility of a nexus.
That's my worry.
I think that Google won't do this
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[Q] VZW - Plan B (if no Nexus 6)

Hi Everyone! Former Android user/enthusiast who still remembers the good old days of the Droid X. That device was so much fun, especially with the various mods, etc. Having been on iOS for the last several years (mainly because of the iPhone camera quality and great support for Exchange) - I'm now growing frustrated and bored with Apple. I enjoy my 5S, but it's getting stale.
That aside, I was targeting the Nexus 6 as my next device but unfortunately it still hasn't made it's way to VZW and I'm not even certain it's coming soon (or at all). I want to consider the Note 4, but TouchWiz and some of the lag is really frustrating. Although, it is a great device overall.
For those who have used and/or own these devices and some of the others, what would you recommend? Is my best Plan B option the Note 4? Perhaps something else? Camera quality is a huge factor for me and something to be considered. Lollipop is desirable as well.
Thanks so much for any feedback. For what it's worth, I need to remain on VZW so other carriers are not an option.
If you can afford to, buy the nexus 6 at full price from Google or Moto. Moto even has a credit option. Nexus 6 works fine on vzw, I'm using one now.
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Or buy one outright from T-Mobile like it did and works perfectly on Big Red.
You're on a Nexus fanboy site Here are my thoughts.
Nexus 6 - I'd at least try it, get one anyway you can. I got a 32gb blue from Moto and then returned it after my GPS 64 gb blue arrived, before the 14 day return window. I love it. All will work out of the box with an activated VZW nano sim so make sure you have that first before you switch to an N6. Everything seems to work well. Lollipop is nice although not all apps play nice. Unlock bootloader and root no problem. VZW hasn't messed with it at all which is a nice change, great phone.
Note 4 - TW, well what can I say, it may lag, you get all the Note stuff like Multi Window, stylus, etc.. The Nexus is almost the opposite of the Note as far as complexity. VZW locks this tighter than any other phone. If camera is your thing, from what I have read it may be a little better than the Nexus but not much (I am not a camera guy so I can not help here).
All, thanks for the replies thus far. I know bias and logic will steer towards the Nexus 6 at all costs. In general, I'm looking to exhaust all options and possibilities before pulling the trigger, especially if I have to dish out more money. But the N6 is so appealing
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All, thanks for the replies thus far. I know bias and logic will steer towards the Nexus 6 at all costs. In general, I'm looking to exhaust all options and possibilities before pulling the trigger, especially if I have to dish out more money. But the N6 is so appealing
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Your options are,
1) Motorola: Financing through 6/12/18 months or outright buy the device.
2) Google Play Store: Outright buy the device.
3) Carrier stores (TMo, AT&T, Sprint): Be wary on whether or not its carrier locked, can always unlock it but requires extra $$. Depending on whom you get it from, you may need to stay with that carrier for 1 month.
4) eBay/Craigslist/Swappa.
In my opinion, select the one that has it available asap. Christmas time is coming and deliveries won't be made before Christmas soon.
You mention the fun you had on the x modding. That ain't gonna happen on the Note. Great phone if your are happy stock.

Nexus to S6

Hello,
I've order the 64Gb S6 deal from T-Mobile. I've been a lifetime Nexus user from the Nexus One. I've always stuck to pure Android and the phone I currently have is the Nexus 5. I've purchase every generation of Nexus phone except for the Nexus 6 because I didn't like the size. The S6 seems like a winner and I'm already use to a non-removable battery and no SD card. I'm not sure how I'll deal with TW(heard it's been toned down) vs stock Android. That really is my biggest worry and I've been researching a way to uninstall all the bloatware(T-Mobile) without rooting(Though I might do that with PingPong and deal with manual updates). I really wish they would have released a Google Play Edition. I am pretty excited about the class leading hardware, especially the camera. Others who have switched from stock Android to the S6, how do you feel? Loving it? Ready to switch back to a Nexus device? Let me know! Thanks!
Also I'm a avid Google Now, Ok Google user.
My last couple phones were stock android (one plus one, nexus, moto x) and I'll tell you, I don't miss them. The s6 is that good. Battery could be better, but I'm hoping rooting helps (I'm on day one of a custom ROM so we'll see). I also use the "OK google" phrase a lot, so you'll be disappointed to know it doesn't work on the s6 for some reason unless you're using google now or google launcher.
I was in the same boat as you. I went from a 32gb Nexus 5 on AT&T to 64gb Galaxy S6 T-Mo. I'm not a big save my entire music collection on my phone guy, I prefer streaming services. 32gb Nexus was fine for me and battery life sucked. I love the GS6, super fast, I find the battery life more than acceptable, I'm rooted via Ping Pong and actually don't mind Touchwiz this time around. Hated it on my GS2 Skyrocket and GS4. I just rooted and plan to update with Flashfire to keep Knox intact
I was worried about keeping KNOX intact too. I used to install custom ROMs back in the day but as Android has gotten better I haven't done it on recent phones. I just wanted to be able to uninstall bloatware so that's why I'm thinking about rooting. I love the fact that the T-Mobile version has no carrier branding and now I can't wait till this thing gets here. Other than software do you know how different the T-Mo version is from the international version?
N6 64GB to S6 64GB. No remorse whatsoever. Especially with a Tab S also, having things like SideSync is great.
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I was worried about keeping KNOX intact too. I used to install custom ROMs back in the day but as Android has gotten better I haven't done it on recent phones. I just wanted to be able to uninstall bloatware so that's why I'm thinking about rooting. I love the fact that the T-Mobile version has no carrier branding and now I can't wait till this thing gets here. Other than software do you know how different the T-Mo version is from the international version?
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Not any major differences. If anything T-Mo variant has a few extra features like voLTE and WiFi Calling enabled by default. I went with the JUMP option when I switched to T-Mo so I only have to pay off half the device to upgrade. I see no reason to get international version over T-Mo variant. If it were AT&T or International I'd go international all day. My girlfriend has the AT&T variant as she is still on a family plan with big corporate discount. With Flashfire the locked AT&T bootloader isn't crippling but more of an inconvenience
I went from the Nexus 5 to OnePlus One (CM12) and now to the S6. I love the S6. I use the Google Now launcher instead of TW and it doesn't feel all the much different to me. I like the added gestures TW brings (such as palm swipe for a screenshot).
For the bloatware, I simply disable it in the applications menu. When you disable them, the app also disappears from the app drawer.
I was Team Nexus for a while and had a GNex, Nexus 4, 5, and 6. I switched to the S6 because the N6 was too big for my taste and the S6 hardware was just so damn nice (body, camera).
Do I miss stock Android? Hell yes. There's very little (if anything) that TW does better. However, after a few hours of research and tweaking, I've got my S6 looking and feeling as close to a Nexus as possible. I recommend Nova Launcher, Moonshine icon pack, and Hifont to help with that. Also I rooted (before PingPong was available, unfortunately) and used TiBu to freeze all the bloatware I don't need. I'm pretty happy, but I'd be even happier if someone could get this Material Design theme ported to the T-Mobile variant!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6/themes-apps/wip-material-design-theme-s6e-t3108155
For what it's worth, my S6 (with no mods other than frozen bloatware) is as snappy as my Nexus 6 running stock 5.1 with Faux kernel.
ping pong root. You basically root the stock rom, knox is NOT tripped. So its good as long as yuou only want to make small changes to your rom (like getting rid of bloat completely and not just disabling it).
Thats what i did and it worked AMAZINGLY well.
frettfreak said:
ping pong root. You basically root the stock rom, knox is NOT tripped. So its good as long as yuou only want to make small changes to your rom (like getting rid of bloat completely and not just disabling it).
Thats what i did and it worked AMAZINGLY well.
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Yeah, I think that's my plan. From all the review of current TW I don't think I'll mind so much. I just want to be rid of all the bloat I won't use. The phone feels amazing and I'm waiting for a glass screen protect now before I start using it. How do you guys feel about the recent new of possibly 2 new nexus phones coming out?
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Yeah, I think that's my plan. From all the review of current TW I don't think I'll mind so much. I just want to be rid of all the bloat I won't use. The phone feels amazing and I'm waiting for a glass screen protect now before I start using it. How do you guys feel about the recent new of possibly 2 new nexus phones coming out?
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Really TW isnt that bad on the s6 now. I can deal with it. and honestly until this phone i have been a "gotta get a glass screen protector before i buy the phone" kinda guy. i have had this one without one and i havent scratch the screen once (have had it in my pocket with screws and nail on accident too a few times). I may end up ordering one, but i HATE the fact that the screen is curved on the sides and the protector doesnt go to the edge. IMO, just looks janky.
the 2 nexus phones is super interesting. I am REALLY hoping that the smaller LG made nexus is real cause i MIGHT be all over that. I had the g3 before this and really liked it. I did what they did with the g4, and as long as the new nexus takes the camera from the g4, that might be my next jump upgrade when it comes out. lol Not interested in a phone bigger than 5.5" anymore. After having the g3 for 6 months, and now going back to the smaller s6, i think this screen size is my sweet spot for sure.
id10terrordfw said:
N6 64GB to S6 64GB. No remorse whatsoever. Especially with a Tab S also, having things like SideSync is great.
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Same experience for moving from a Nexus 6 to a S6.
Your making the right move op. I am not missing the stock experience at all as we already have Root / twrp / (tw for now, 920 T/F) ROM's / kernels / themes here. I've been busy flashing and finding largely positive results; devs are cool / smart peeps here. Much more stable options here imo.
Even just rooting and casually dialing back touchwiz to your liking is easy with titanium.
Moreover, the S6 hardware is largely unmatched to date. Backing up a 4.3gb .zip in twrp took 192/secs; octa 64bit rocks even on little stuff like that. Its not perfect, but its arguably THE superior android flagship right now.

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