I know that bootloader voids warranty. I also know that relocking it dosent give your warranty back.(as moto keeps a list of unlocked bootloaders)
But ive heard that people from sony xperia devices and also form moto G gen 1 have got their devices repaired for free by just locking their bootloader which they had unlocked earlier!
Anyone has any experience regarding the same? I heared that a guy Tapan Shah (My facebook friend on a moto g community) got his gen 1 repaired for free after he flashed all stock and locked the bootloader. He says that they have a list but they be lenient while they check for damages .
Anyone who has any experience visiting a MOTOCARE center after relocking the bootloader?
I think we dont get warranty in india after unlocking bootloader....
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amritmalviya said:
I think we dont get warranty in india after unlocking bootloader....
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We all think that but I am asking about any experience at the service center!
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I found a new source in SONY Developer site:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/xperia-open-source-archives/open-source-archive-for-build-7-0-b-1-152/
Is this a new fw for T in future or what?
I hope not, because that is the firmware for the xperia TL (American AT&T) which has a bootloader that cannot be unlocked
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gregbradley said:
I hope not, because that is the firmware for the xperia TL (American AT&T) which has a bootloader that cannot be unlocked
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"Cannot" as in never? or is this something that may change in the future? Because I just received my phone in the mail today, and this locked bootloader is very disappointing. I might just return this phone if unlocking is not an attainable option for me.
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"Cannot" as in never? or is this something that may change in the future? Because I just received my phone in the mail today, and this locked bootloader is very disappointing. I might just return this phone if unlocking is not an attainable option for me.
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check the service menu. It will tell you if it allows you to unlock it or not. Its always worth a bit of reasearch about this before laying out £350 or getting into a 2 year contract....
I have xperia z coming to me Tuesday from Vodafone on bill pay. I just wanted to know if these will have bootloader locked does anyone know.
I'm coming from gs2 and really want to root my xperia and flash some roms again
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Will it be a lot of hardship to get it unlocked?
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Can not unlock the boot loader but u can root it, best thing is sell it when get it as new (dont open it) then buy a sim free one from phones 4 u
Mine is vodafone as well mate, bootloader can be unlocked. I've left mine locked as root is available. Didn't want to lose BE etc.
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How can it be unlocked if its locked?
How did you root it locked? Also what's BE. I'm new to Sony devices lol
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bravia engine, u can root it without unlocking the boot loader but on yours the boot loader will be locked,
type in *#*#service#*#* then look service info then configuration look at bottom will say if it can be unlocked
Is BE a big loss do you notice it gone?
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i got mine from vodafone and out of the box the bootloader unlock allowed value was yes, however after flashing to uk generic, then rooting it has changed to no, i think this happened during root.
I'm sure I've read on here that it should go back to yes if you unroot and go back to stock.
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does it work with another mobile operator? for example, will xperia z vodafone be working with russian mobile operators?
thx!
Should work anywhere but the uk, its only locked to the uk not the rest of the world
what is the difference between locked and not locked bootloader? what does it change?
i always had htc phones new to sony.
OK hi guys, I've done a couple of searches and didn't come up with anything so I wanted to be safe than sorry. I have an AT&T atrix HD and love it but I did the JB update and waited for the bootloader unlock and root 1 click methods. Well when I got the phone it was ICS and I want to revert it to back to ICS for lapdock support and I just kinda liked the feel of it. Now my major question is if I do the downgrade am I gonna lose my SIM unlock because I currently do not have the money to get me an unlock code. Thanks for your help guys it is very much appreciated
If it was locked in the first place then , yes there is a good chance.
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Yeah when I got it I was told it had been unlocked, guess I shouldn't have upgraded it but then again I was new to the Atrix scene. The last Motorola I had was the Droid 1
I if you are talking about sim unlock then it will never relock once it is unlocked.
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Yeah we're talking Sim unlocked I have my Atrix unlocked for T-Mobile. So if I won't lose it I want to revert to ICS which is what it was when I bought it
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The sim unlock is like unlocking the bootloader... it cannot be reverted. Years ago, many Motorola firmwares could really sim lock again the phone... but i'm talking about the old V3, Z1 and every P2K, P2K05 and MotoMagx phones. But that was on 2004/08!!! Today this is not an issue anymore.
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I want to revert it to back to ICS for lapdock support
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I have a ATT unlocked phone I use on Bell/Telus in Canada.
I downgraded to ICS (yes, for the lapdock correct hdmi support; and by the way, **** you Motorola )
and the phone is still SIM unlocked
So no you will not loose the SIM unlock by downgrading.
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I have a ATT unlocked phone I use on Bell/Telus in Canada.
I downgraded to ICS (yes, for the lapdock correct hdmi support; and by the way, **** you Motorola )
and the phone is still SIM unlocked
So no you will not loose the SIM unlock by downgrading.
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Fantastic, question answered and I can't wait to get my lapdock for my birthday and enjoy my Atrix HD even more than I already do.
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If I just root my xperia z without unlocking the bootloader, will it void my warranty? Or installing custom rom with locked bl?
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No.
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XperienceD said:
No.
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I contacted sony customer care now. He said even root without bl unlock will void warranty..!
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pjgowtham said:
I contacted sony customer care now. He said even root without bl unlock will void warranty..!
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Was pointless starting the thread to ask here then.
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Was pointless starting the thread to ask here then.
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May be you not replying for this thread is a way better than giving false answers when dont know the answer.
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You've had the right answer from me.
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Root. Do whatever you want.
Need service? Flash stock before taking the phone to official service.
Same can be said about unlocking the bootloader.
But XperienceD is right, rooting DOES NOT VOID THE WARRANTY.
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No offence buddy
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DrKrFfXx said:
Root. Do whatever you want.
Need service? Flash stock before taking the phone to official service.
Same can be said about unlocking the bootloader.
But XperienceD is right, rooting DOES NOT VOID THE WARRANTY.
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But the customer care rep told me rooting itself will void the warranty..may be try contacting rep in your country
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pjgowtham said:
I contacted sony customer care now. He said even root without bl unlock will void warranty..!
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Wrong : The Free Software Foundation Europe argues that it is legal to root or flash any device. According to the European Directive 1999/44/CE, replacing the original operating system with another does not void the statutory warranty that covers the hardware of the device for two years unless the seller can prove that the modification caused the defect, accroding to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_rooting
So even if Sony, or the president of the usa, or Thor himself said that void warranty, that's not true.
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But the customer care rep told me rooting itself will void the warranty..may be try contacting rep in your country
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I've been there personally. Took my Xperia S, another Xperia S, an X10, and an Arc to service.
All rooted no problems.
I even took my previous Xperia S bootloader unlocked to have the screen replaced. Totally forgot to lock the bootloader. They yelled at me because I wasn't covered by warranty, but they kinda know me already as I buy all my phones over there (they let me play with the Z Ultra too ), they spared my life and didn't charge the 150€ they charge for having the screen replaced without warranty.
Sony service is great here in Spain, if you take the phone personally. Not so much when you have to deal with delivery system.
Awesome.!! but the Sony service rep here in India are kinda dumb. But I can deal with it. Thanks a lot for your help guys
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No offence buddy
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None taken.
QualQuek said:
Wrong : The Free Software Foundation Europe argues that it is legal to root or flash any device. According to the European Directive 1999/44/CE, replacing the original operating system with another does not void the statutory warranty that covers the hardware of the device for two years unless the seller can prove that the modification caused the defect, accroding to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_rooting
So even if Sony, or the president of the usa, or Thor himself said that void warranty, that's not true.
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Lemme post this in Sony India Facebook..lemme see what they reply to us..sorry guys I'm so idle here
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Lemme post this in Sony India Facebook..lemme see what they reply to us..sorry guys I'm so idle here
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Haha sure do it, it's totally legal to root your phone, even in India.
So even phones with unlocked bootloader, they need to prove the damage is because of the software we used! Am I right in this?
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So even phones with unlocked bootloader, they need to prove the damage is because of the software we used! Am I right in this?
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Yes and no. The service that is in my city is very clear about this. What they told me is that they need to register te parts replaced with their software, maybe serial numbers to keep control what goes in and out,, but they can't do so with the bootloader unlocked as they cannot flash stock firmware with the tools they have.
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Yes and no. The service that is in my city is very clear about this. What they told me is that they need to register te parts replaced with their software, maybe serial numbers to keep control what goes in and out,, but they can't do so with the bootloader unlocked as they cannot flash stock firmware with the tools they have.
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Wrong, a phone with a locked bootloader can be flashed by any flash tool made for Xperia Z, it's only if you unlock the bootloader that they can't (SUS and PCC don't work on unlocked bootloader), and btw that void the warranty to unlock the bootloader.
And yes they need prove that the modification caused the defect if any.
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Wrong, a phone with a locked bootloader can be flashed by any flash tool made for Xperia Z, it's only if you unlock the bootloader that they can't (SUS and PCC don't work on unlocked bootloader), and btw that void the warranty to unlock the bootloader.
And yes they need prove that the modification caused the defect if any.
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Read again.
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Read again.
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Yep you said it sorry
Checking it says unlock bootloader allowed no is this because i am sim locked to orange UK? & need to get an unlock code. This is what i had to do with my arc using testpoint anyone answer this for me
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carbon21 said:
Checking it says unlock bootloader allowed no is this because i am sim locked to orange UK? & need to get an unlock code. This is what i had to do with my arc using testpoint anyone answer this for me
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Bootloader and simlock are two completely separate things. If your bootloader status does not allow bootloader unlocking you will NEVER be able to unlock it. This means that you will not be able to flash CM, AOSP or any other custom kernel based rom on your device.
You can still enjoy stock rom based kernels like the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463675
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481248
and root your phone.
Here is a most commonly asked questions video which may clear out some things for you:
Was just checking as my old arc also said unlock not allowed but was unlocked with testpoint unlock & running super jelly bean & custom kernel
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carbon21 said:
Was just checking as my old arc also said unlock not allowed but was unlocked with testpoint unlock & running super jelly bean & custom kernel
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test point exploit has been closed.
If it says its not allowed there is no way to unlock it. Allthough it is not related to sim unlock it generally occurs that branded phones are locked and unbranded are can be unlocked.
One main exception is Vodafone UK, they have given me 3 xperia T's and one Z1 on contract, all of which can be unlocked
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test point exploit has been closed.
If it says its not allowed there is no way to unlock it. Allthough it is not related to sim unlock it generally occurs that branded phones are locked and unbranded are can be unlocked.
One main exception is Vodafone UK, they have given me 3 xperia T's and one Z1 on contract, all of which can be unlocked
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ok thanks only used the testpoint on an arc about a month ago so didn't know it doesn't work any more no cm for me then :crying: