Any way to root the device if you never rooted and updated OTA to Lollipop?
No, and yes.
To my knowledge, there isn't a root method for our device yet. I was able to follow these directions to downgrade back to 4.4.2 and update to Rooted lollipop:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/update-procedure-lollipop-5-0-oc1-t3063760
There's a lot of steps you must follow carefully, and you should probably back everything up before you begin as flashing back to the 4.4.2 will probably wipe.
crackness said:
No, and yes.
To my knowledge, there isn't a root method for our device yet. I was able to follow these directions to downgrade back to 4.4.2 and update to Rooted lollipop:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/update-procedure-lollipop-5-0-oc1-t3063760
There's a lot of steps you must follow carefully, and you should probably back everything up before you begin as flashing back to the 4.4.2 will probably wipe.
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I had NC2 and it didn't take too long for me to follow that easy method. Rooted on lollipop. So I'd suggest to reverting back to 4.4.2 and follow the easy method. PS xposed bootloops device on rooted lollipop!
I was coming from 4.4.2, a rooted/custom ROM. I actually was going through the keep root update process but I ran into a hiccup and couldn't get Safestrap working.
I'll see if I can muster up the strength to try again. Lollipop stock is nice, I was mainly going for xposed as well.
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Broke phone sending it back to moto.. Trying to install the update but it fails .. Thinking because of root so going to try the factory reset and see if that will unroot and let 4.4.2 install
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Broke phone sending it back to moto.. Trying to install the update but it fails .. Thinking because of root so going to try the factory reset and see if that will unroot and let 4.4.2 install
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If you used SlapMyMoto you should already know that it is not compatible with 4.4.2 - did you even read the relevant threads? Most likely you have modified something in /system OR you have custom recovery installed. Both of these issues are well documented here and will prevent you from accepting ANY OTA update.
A factory reset probably won't help, but if you follow the instructions in the "Return to Stock" thread (and flash the ENTIRE stock SBF for YOUR carrier) it will probably fix you right up.
It is irresponsible to flash things without knowing the consequences and then 'send it back to moto'. This results in higher prices for all of us, and encourages the OEMs to lock the devices down TIGHT.
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If you used SlapMyMoto you should already know that it is not compatible with 4.4.2 - did you even read the relevant threads? Most likely you have modified something in /system OR you have custom recovery installed. Both of these issues are well documented here and will prevent you from accepting ANY OTA update.
A factory reset probably won't help, but if you follow the instructions in the "Return to Stock" thread (and flash the ENTIRE stock SBF for YOUR carrier) it will probably fix you right up.
It is irresponsible to flash things without knowing the consequences and then 'send it back to moto'. This results in higher prices for all of us, and encourages the OEMs to lock the devices down TIGHT.
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Thanks for the info.. but give the ben of doubt. the phone was dropped by my brother and the glass is broke. the phone works fine. and is currently working perfect on 4.4 rooted with slapmymoto and wipemymoto
I have the replacement phone here now and it came with 4.4.2 and I want to experiment with the old broke one before sending it back. I want to know what I can do and cannot do with 4.4.2 using Pie root and Towelroot, but try on the broke phone first, that's why I need to change from a good working 4.4 root to 4.4.2
Peace
doitinthedirt said:
Thanks for the info.. but give the ben of doubt. the phone was dropped by my brother and the glass is broke. the phone works fine. and is currently working perfect on 4.4 rooted with slapmymoto and wipemymoto
What I have the replacement phone here now and it came with 4.4.2 and I want to experiment with the old broke one before sending it back. I want to know what I can do and cannot do with 4.4.2 using Pie root and Towelroot, but try on the broke phone first
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Ok, that makes more sense I guess.
Yes if you want to experiment, download the entire 4.4.2 SBF for Verizon (that is your carrier, right?)
It is this one: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/download.php?device=0&file=841
Follow the instructions in the Return to Stock thread. Everything you need is there - all the tools, binaries, and drivers.
Once you have flashed the SBF, you will be on STOCK 4.4.2 and you can experiment all you want!
Good Luck
samwathegreat said:
Ok, that makes more sense I guess.
Yes if you want to experiment, download the entire 4.4.2 SBF for Verizon (that is your carrier, right?)
It is this one: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/download.php?device=0&file=841
Follow the instructions in the Return to Stock thread. Everything you need is there - all the tools, binaries, and drivers.
Once you have flashed the SBF, you will be on STOCK 4.4.2 and you can experiment all you want!
Good Luck
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I've downloaded the ota and its on the phone now, can i flash this
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I've downloaded the ota and its on the phone now, can i flash this
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Nope. Not unless you have STOCK recovery, and an unmodified /system - which it appears you do not.
Just follow my previous instructions and flash the entire stock SBF (NOT the OTA). This will fix you right up in about 4 minutes...
Hey ho guys. I have a 5S with the Downgrade to NCE flash found on this board. I would like to have the latest Kitkat without updating to Lollipop and getting the locked bootloader. I just downgraded today to NCE and bravely did one OTA. It got me to NG3. Can I OTA again to get OA1 or will it jump me to OC4? Or should I use one of the methods here on the board to upgrade and totally avoid OTA? Thanks, later.
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Hey ho guys. I have a 5S with the Downgrade to NCE flash found on this board. I would like to have the latest Kitkat without updating to Lollipop and getting the locked bootloader. I just downgraded today to NCE and bravely did one OTA. It got me to NG3. Can I OTA again to get OA1 or will it jump me to OC4? Or should I use one of the methods here on the board to upgrade and totally avoid OTA? Thanks, later.
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If you want root capabilities i wouldn't take any OTA. You'll still have to go back to NCE to root anyhow i believe. As far as the boot loader it is and always has been locked on the AT&T S5. The only method for root is towel root and I'm not sure if it'll work on NG3. If not you'll have to go down to NCE
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The only method for root is towel root and I'm not sure if it'll work on NG3. If not you'll have to go down to NCE
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Yeah, I should have preference that I am after root. But towelroot works on NG3, you can read about that here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/g900and3tong3keeprootota-zip-t2862299
After I took the brave OTA I followed the threads instructions and it worked. There is a thread here that talks about root for OA1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...to-root-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120
It says just to take the OTA. I guess its still safe to take the OTA then after NG3? And I can't seem to find any rom on here thats stock OA1. Anyone know if I aren't seeing it? Thanks.
Sowden said:
Yeah, I should have preference that I am after root. But towelroot works on NG3, you can read about that here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/g900and3tong3keeprootota-zip-t2862299
After I took the brave OTA I followed the threads instructions and it worked. There is a thread here that talks about root for OA1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...to-root-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120
It says just to take the OTA. I guess its still safe to take the OTA then after NG3? And I can't seem to find any rom on here thats stock OA1. Anyone know if I aren't seeing it? Thanks.
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Most of the roms are based on nce or ng3. If you go to oa1 and flash a nce or ng3 rom your phone will be slow because of the different bootloader, and the camera is screwed up. I'd stay on ng3 and not worry about oa1. That's my opinion. I'm on 5.0 running the Twi5ted rom and having no problems with it. Most devs have moved to 5.0 lollipop and the 4.4.2 - 4.4.4 roms will be more and more abandond in my opinion.
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Most of the roms are based on nce or ng3. If you go to oa1 and flash a nce or ng3 rom your phone will be slow because of the different bootloader, and the camera is screwed up. I'd stay on ng3 and not worry about oa1. That's my opinion. I'm on 5.0 running the Twi5ted rom and having no problems with it. Most devs have moved to 5.0 lollipop and the 4.4.2 - 4.4.4 roms will be more and more abandond in my opinion.
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Ah see I haven't tried any of the custom roms posted on here yet. But can I have NC3 as stock and on another ROM Slot (using Safestrap) have a Lollipop rom? Having one slot be 4.2.2 and the other be 5, basically. So the bootloader is different from NC3 to OA1, good to know. I'm glad I stopped at NC3 then. Thanks for your help.
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Ah see I haven't tried any of the custom roms posted on here yet. But can I have NC3 as stock and on another ROM Slot (using Safestrap) have a Lollipop rom? Having one slot be 4.2.2 and the other be 5, basically. So the bootloader is different from NC3 to OA1, good to know. I'm glad I stopped at NC3 then. Thanks for your help.
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I'm not sure on the different slots and bootloader mainly because when i used different slots the battery drain was unbearable. I don't know if they every fixed the battery drain issue when using different slots. It was bad enough that i just stuck to the stock slot and flashed only in that slot.
I've searched and researched. I'm not finding a matching thread/procedure for my situation. I've never rooted before so I wanted to make sure I was following the right procedure. Thanks in advance for any help.
I'm currently running stock recently updated AT&T 5.0 N900AUCUEOC2. I don't care if I remove stock apps and I'd prefer not to trip odin if possible. Backups of all my files have already been done manually and I'm ready for a reset/wipe.
Is it safe for me to follow the procedure for oc1 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/update-procedure-lollipop-5-0-oc1-t3063760?
What is the difference between wipe and non-wipe tars?
Will it force OTA update to OC2 after I do root procedure for OC1? Will OC2 be rooted afterwards?
Is someone working on a procedure for OC2?
I've had the same problem and haven't been able to root. Someone should try to work on this I'm sure we're not the only ones
Ditto, Att note 3 running oc2. I've tried odin and a few one click programs with no luck.
Have anyone found a way to root OC2?
There are many posts explaining how to root. Unfortunately, I don't think It can be done while on lollipop. None of the popular root tools work on lollipop (kingoroot/towelroot). You have to odin back to NC2 (Kitkat), Root, install safestrap and busybox, then you can install OC2 in safestrap via a pre-rooted OC2 ROM or backup.
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There are many posts explaining how to root. Unfortunately, I don't think It can't be done while on lollipop. None of the popular root tools work on lollipop (kingoroot/towelroot). You have to odin back to NC2 (Kitkat), root, then you can install OC2 in safestrap via a pre-rooted OC2 ROM or backup.
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Hitmizzle, you summarized very well :good: - I also spent days trying to find a root method on OC2 but to no avail. Eventually I ended up restoring to NC2, rooted, then installed a pre-rooted OC2 as you described. I think the admin should bookmark your post so as to save much time for other people.
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I'm running OC1 rooted and got a notification for an update which I assume is OC2. If I take that OTA update will I lose root on my device?
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I'm running OC1 rooted and got a notification for an update which I assume is OC2. If I take that OTA update will I lose root on my device?
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Yes, assuming the update doesn't fail. If you want OC2, there's a rooted OC2 ROM update at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703006
I've been running stock rooted with xposed for so long i can't remember what i should do to update. there aren't any stock and rooted zips to load that i can find. i'm on project fi right now
should i just download the zip from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-stock-ota-urls-t2906493
then can i just take it and update in TWRP? then my phone won't be rooted anymore and then just re-root?
let me know if i have those steps down or if there is an easier way to do things to avoid losing root
thanks
Hi All,
I'm still rocking my 2013 Moto X XT1060 as my daily device. It's currently on 4.4, rooted, unlocked bootloader, stock rom with exposed framework. i disabled the OTA updates on it because at the time, I didn't have an unlocked bootloader and didn't want to loose root (I'm not on the dev-edition). Anyway, my bluetooth has started to crash and want to/should update 4.4.4 or 5.1. What do you recommend?
In addition to that, what method should I use to get there:
1. SFB back to 4.2.2 (I'm currently on 4.4 so I don't think that shouldn't be a problem but please tell me otherwise)
1a. Take all the OTAs to 4.4.4 or 5.1?
2. SFB to 4.4.4 (directly from 4.4, not sure if that's a problem)
3. SFB to 5.1 (directly from 4.4, again, not sure if that's a problem)
Thank you!
If it were me, I would take the 4.4.4 update and stop there. I have mine rooted with stock 4.4.4, and everything just works. Kit kat is really the sweet spot for this phone.
Thanks! What method should I take to get there? Can I SBF directly to it from 4.4 or is it possible to downgrade back to 4.2.2 from 4.4 and take the updates? I've been out of the scene since I got the phone back in 2013 so I can't remember if downgrading to 4.2.2 is OK.
You should not downgrade to 4.2.2, besides it's not necessary. If you want to get to 4.4.4, then I would use the method compiled in this post by liveroy. It's not complicated, simply follow the directions exactly. I then reflashed TWRP recovery, and installed SuperSU, in order to use AdAway and ES File Explorer's root access. If you want to remain stock, then omit TWRP and SuperSU.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/guide-faq-how-to-downgrade-5-1-to-4-4-4-t3182118
Note: as suggested by KidJoe, I used TWRP 2.8.6.0 and the most recent SuperSU.
wmdunn said:
If it were me, I would take the 4.4.4 update and stop there. I have mine rooted with stock 4.4.4, and everything just works. Kit kat is really the sweet spot for this phone.
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Agreed. I kept KK while my friends upgraded to 5.1, nothing but problems and extremely poor battery life.