To my understanding, T-Mobile phones can utilize wireless texting along with the wireless calling. How does this work, and can MMS be sent over wi-fi in addition to regular SMS?
Right now, I have wireless calling disabled on my T-mobile GS6. Does this disable the ability for wireless texting as well?
Just curious to how this all works. Thanks!
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All this mumbo-jumbo doesn't answer the question. :banghead:
Pp.
i have wifi calling turned off, and I send and recieve text messages, including mms all the time through wifi without issue, so the answer is YES
zackmack7 said:
To my understanding, T-Mobile phones can utilize wireless texting along with the wireless calling. How does this work, and can MMS be sent over wi-fi in addition to regular SMS?
Right now, I have wireless calling disabled on my T-mobile GS6. Does this disable the ability for wireless texting as well?
Just curious to how this all works. Thanks!
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'WiFi calling' is used when you, for example, have no service in a your house. You would turn 'WiFi calling' on and it would use your home internet that you're connected to as your signal source. All your calls, texts, and data (of course) will go through your home internet instead of the tmobile cell tower. It turns zero or bad service into perfect service. Now it also depends on your home internet quality. If you have no T-Mobile service in your house AND a crappy home internet connection... then you may be screwed lol
You don't NEED WiFi calling on to send and receive calls or texts. Just turn it on when it's needed.
wase4711 said:
i have wifi calling turned off, and I send and recieve text messages, including mms all the time through wifi without issue, so the answer is YES
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How can you tell that the messages are being sent via Wifi and not mobile data?
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How can you tell that the messages are being sent via Wifi and not mobile data?
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If you have wifi on you will not have any type of wireless data other than what normal voice gives you. I would assume in a instance that wifi is on and wifi calling is off it would send all sms texts via voice and mms as wifI. Just tried to send a mms with mobile data off but connected to wifi with wifi calling off and it said will send mms after it connects to mobile data. So there is your answer! Guess we still get mobile data when connected to wifi.
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'WiFi calling' is used when you, for example, have no service in a your house. You would turn 'WiFi calling' on and it would use your home internet that you're connected to as your signal source. All your calls, texts, and data (of course) will go through your home internet instead of the tmobile cell tower. It turns zero or bad service into perfect service. Now it also depends on your home internet quality. If you have no T-Mobile service in your house AND a crappy home internet connection... then you may be screwed lol
You don't NEED WiFi calling on to send and receive calls or texts. Just turn it on when it's needed.
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Right but I'm assuming that if Wifi-calling is off, even if Wifi is on, SMS and MMS will still be sent through normal means/mobile data instead of via Wifi. Is that correct?
ThePagel said:
If you have wifi on you will not have any type of wireless data other than what normal voice gives you. I would assume in a instance that wifi is on and wifi calling is off it would send all sms texts via voice and mms as wifI. Just tried to send a mms with mobile data off but connected to wifi with wifi calling off and it said will send mms after it connects to mobile data. So there is your answer! Guess we still get mobile data when connected to wifi.
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Perfect! Thanks
zackmack7 said:
Right but I'm assuming that if Wifi-calling is off, even if Wifi is on, SMS and MMS will still be sent through normal means/mobile data instead of via Wifi. Is that correct?
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'WiFi calling' and WiFi are independent of each other. You can have WiFi on and still have 'WiFi calling' off. lf your 'wifi calling' is off...all calls, SMS, and MMS will be transmitted via cell network. If 'WiFi calling' is on... then all calls, SMS, and MMS will be transmitted via WiFi.
Also remember there are three different options when using 'WiFi calling'...if I'm ever in a situation where 'WiFi calling' is NEEDED, I would definitely say use the third (the one I have chosen) option in attached picture.
wase4711 said:
i have wifi calling turned off, and I send and recieve text messages, including mms all the time through wifi without issue, so the answer is YES
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You can not send MMS through WiFi unless 'WiFi calling' is on. If your 'WiFi calling' is off, then all your calls, SMS, MMS go through cell network
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You can not send MMS through WiFi unless 'WiFi calling' is on. If your 'WiFi calling' is off, then all your calls, SMS, MMS go through cell network
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I think it is important to note that it requires mobile data. You can send a sms via voice but mms must be sent with 2g/3g/LTE Or wifi calling.
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I think it is important to note that it requires mobile data. You can send a sms via voice but mms must be sent with 2g/3g/LTE Or wifi calling.
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Correct. See this is what I like to see within a forum! lol Find an issue, troubleshoot issue, solve issue. BOOM
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Hello,
Has anyone ever experienced the inability to download pictures from SMS/MMS while connected to wifi? My buddy can send me a pic via messaging or chomp sms and once it gets to me, usually a long time later, I will get a small, empty chat balloon touch the balloon and it will give me the loading circle for a few minutes and it will eventually stop without dl'ing anything. If I turn off wifi then it will dl within seconds. This is the same on both my phone and my buddy's(captivate) the only difference is I run the Firefly 2.0.5 and he is running stock eclair.
Is this just something that we have to deal with or is there a fix for this?
I did a samsung live chat and the agent said it was the way samsung makes their phones and restrict it to only allow SMS/MMS DL from the carrier signal.
Thanks for any and all help.
mms are done over 3g, are you able to browse the internet on 3g? are your APN settings correct?
I get mms when on wifi too. I was home two days back when I got like 4 sms. And at home I'm always on wifi.
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Never had a problem
MMS are only done over your carrier network. To prove this send your self an mms and as it is sending and receiving what your task bar and you will see that your data network connects to download it.
since the phone has to drop the wifi signal and connect to the carrier data signal to send or receive MMS (it might not show in the icon though), yours might be lagging somewhat in doing that...
so when the buddy is on wifi his one does it quicker yes?
Trusselo said:
mms are done over 3g, are you able to browse the internet on 3g? are your APN settings correct?
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Yes can browse the internet while on 3G and WIFI.
I do not know if my APN settings are wrong or right.
ap1618 said:
since the phone has to drop the wifi signal and connect to the carrier data signal to send or receive MMS (it might not show in the icon though), yours might be lagging somewhat in doing that...
so when the buddy is on wifi his one does it quicker yes?
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No, in reference to the way the devices act both do the same thing. Do not allow you to DL MMS while the WIFI is turned on. neither seems faster or slower it just will not complete the task on wifi.
Thanks to all for the replies
zelendel said:
MMS are only done over your carrier network. To prove this send your self an mms and as it is sending and receiving what your task bar and you will see that your data network connects to download it.
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I checked it 2 days back. Even when on wifi, it turns on EDGE/3G, downloads MMS and disconnects it.
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I checked it 2 days back. Even when on wifi, it turns on EDGE/3G, downloads MMS and disconnects it.
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So is there a setting that I need to look for that allows for the edge/3g to turn on/off for mms?
Anyone?
Would love to figure this out as it is quite annoying.
I have had my phone since the release date for Verizon. The only problem I have with it is I do not receive my MMS messages at all. I leave my data off whenever I have access to wifi. My old Droid Razr would send me a message saying I had a message from someone and needed to download it. But on my Moto X I do not recieve any messages and then when I turn on my data, I will randomly get 4-5 messages from the group/picture message.
Are there any settings I can change to fix this?
scottpark09 said:
I have had my phone since the release date for Verizon. The only problem I have with it is I do not receive my MMS messages at all. I leave my data off whenever I have access to wifi. My old Droid Razr would send me a message saying I had a message from someone and needed to download it. But on my Moto X I do not recieve any messages and then when I turn on my data, I will randomly get 4-5 messages from the group/picture message.
Are there any settings I can change to fix this?
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Why are you turning off your data? My phone goes well over 24 hours with every single thing enabled and heavy use. There's no reason to turn it off.
I have the same issue too with my Moto X. I leave my data off because I have not an unlimited data plan. I am from At&t.
If someone can help, it would be great.
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Why are you turning off your data? My phone goes well over 24 hours with every single thing enabled and heavy use. There's no reason to turn it off.
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I agree that the battery life is great. But does it use extra battery to leave data on while on WiFi?
I read somewhere that to fix you need to send yourself an email with a picture attached on gmail. However I am still unable to send while on WiFi.
This is a CDMA limitation and I am unaware of a workaround. If you turn off your data, you will not receive MMS messages.
Try leaving on your data, or switching to a GSM carrier.
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I agree that the battery life is great. But does it use extra battery to leave data on while on WiFi?
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Nope. The data portion actually gets turned off in software if you're on WiFi until there is something (MMS) that needs it. You will save nothing, and waste time turning mobile data off every time you get on WiFi.
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Nope. The data portion actually gets turned off in software if you're on WiFi until there is something (MMS) that needs it. You will save nothing, and waste time turning mobile data off every time you get on WiFi.
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THIS. You need to leave data on if you want to receive MMS. The system handles data very well and will only turn it on when needed while on wifi
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Nope. The data portion actually gets turned off in software if you're on WiFi until there is something (MMS) that needs it. You will save nothing, and waste time turning mobile data off every time you get on WiFi.
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Good to know! But I need mobile data turned on to send an MMS when connected to WiFi? Does this mean it still uses my mobile data?
MMS doesn't count against your data. It goes over your data connection but is not counted towards your limit.
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icase81 said:
MMS doesn't count against your data. It goes over your data connection but is not counted towards your limit.
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Even picture messaging?
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Even picture messaging?
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Correct. MMS = picture messaging. That's how feature phones with no data plan can still use MMS.
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I noticed a similar issue recently when I turned wifi and mobile data off.
I was troubleshooting a problem where Google Messaging had a running service "Messaging Transaction Service" that was holding a wakelock for hours causing increased idle battery drain. Using WLD I saw the wakelock was related to MMS, so I turned on my mobile data. This didn't immediately help, so I forced close the Messaging service, and I then immediately received the MMS. Up until that point, I had no notification that a MMS was pending.
9kracing said:
This is a CDMA limitation and I am unaware of a workaround. If you turn off your data, you will not receive MMS messages.
Try leaving on your data, or switching to a GSM carrier.
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Just to correct you. this is not a CDMA limitation. This is how all iOS and android smartphones work by design. MMS messages are sent through data, they do not use up your data allotment for the month.
Only time MMS would work with data off is if you have a wifi calling app such as the one some tmobile phones have. It does not exist for the moto x.
Anyone else having issues similar to this? While connected to wifi my messages just time out / retry. if while it's retrying I disconnect from wifi, the message goes right away.
Moto X DE Rooted on 4.4.2 as of Tuesday evening.
Any chance you have ad block plus installed?
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Any chance you have ad block plus installed?
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I have AdAway installed.
You do need an active data connection to send MMS (they don't send over WiFi). So it depends on what else you have going on -- i.e. if you have a Tasker profile to turns data off while connected to WiFi or something like that
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You do need an active data connection to send MMS (they don't send over WiFi). So it depends on what else you have going on -- i.e. if you have a Tasker profile to turns data off while connected to WiFi or something like that
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The last two times I've had issues with it sitting, as soon as I dropped wifi it sent. I do have/use tasker, but am on vzw unlimited data so I don't ever turn it off even when connected to wifi. Thanks for the suggestion.
I don't remember this issue pre-4.4.2 but I don't send a *lot* of mms's so I wouldn't argue its starting point as being 4.4.2 for sure.
I've recently noticed that if I don't have an LTE connection or if I'm on wifi without wifi calling turned on I get an error when trying to send texts that I need a data connection. I also receive texts much later than people have sent them to me. When did data become necessary for texts?
borgdronez said:
I've recently noticed that if I don't have an LTE connection or if I'm on wifi without wifi calling turned on I get an error when trying to send texts that I need a data connection. I also receive texts much later than people have sent them to me. When did data become necessary for texts?
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I use Google Voice for text messages. I use Hangouts, but you can use google's Messenger app too.
Texts is cellular not data
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I'll screenshot the next time it occurs. The error states that texts won't be sent until a data connection is present.
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See?[/QUOTE ]I have had this happen to me before. I put the phone in airplane mode and then tried to resend my text message
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borgdronez said:
See?[/QUOTE ]I have had this happen to me before. I put the phone in airplane mode and then tried to resend my text message
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Does this usually resolve it?
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I tried to test that. I did turn off mobile data and still be able to send text message. Maybe something is wrong with your sertings.
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darekz said:
I tried to test that. I did turn off mobile data and still be able to send text message. Maybe something is wrong with your sertings.
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I haven't touched settings except for to turn roaming message retrieval on.
This is difficult to duplicate. It only happens at work where I work towards the center of the building and don't even get edge for data. Wifi coverage ranges from spotty to nonexistent and texts never go through because of this error.
I didn't have this problem on my old Note 4 and I wish that I'd kept it.
Can anyone tell me if the radio has to be on in order to make wifi calls. When I'm in airplane mode and connected to a wireless network I get a message to turn airplane mode off. I have really bad cell service where I am and making calls is hit and miss.
jd1639 said:
Can anyone tell me if the radio has to be on in order to make wifi calls. When I'm in airplane mode and connected to a wireless network I get a message to turn airplane mode off. I have really bad cell service where I am and making calls is hit and miss.
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I keep my radio off all the time (unless I leave my house) wifi on, airplane mode off and make and receive calls just fine.
LeoD said:
I keep my radio off all the time (unless I leave my house) wifi on, airplane mode off and make and receive calls just fine.
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If you have airplane mode off how are you turning the radio off? That's what I'm using to turn it on or off.
jd1639 said:
If you have airplane mode off how are you turning the radio off? That's what I'm using to turn it on or off.
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Mobile data always active in developer options set to off and I toggle mobile data off in Internet options. Unless I'm misunderstanding that should accomplish what your trying to do. For me this gives me wifi calling and receiving while I'm home (cause like you I have terrible reception) but when I leave my home and can pick up a signal I will still get calls etc
I must be missing something. I've turned off mobile data always active off in developer options and mobile data off in internet options. Right now I have no cell service, because it's so crappy here, am connected to my network but I still can't make calls. When I try I get a "mobile network is not available" error.
jd1639 said:
I must be missing something. I've turned off mobile data always active off in developer options and mobile data off in internet options. Right now I have no cell service, because it's so crappy here, am connected to my network but I still can't make calls. When I try I get a "mobile network is not available" error.
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Check out under Network & internet, then internet. Your mobile network should be listed on top. ( I use google fi and it is listed) click the setting and make sure wifi calls is turned on. If it isn't there for you I would look around or check with your provider and make sure they allow wifi calling?
Or maybe someone else that uses the same provider as you can chime in here.
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Check out under Network & internet, then internet. Your mobile network should be listed on top. ( I use google fi and it is listed) click the setting and make sure wifi calls is turned on. If it isn't there for you I would look around or check with your provider and make sure they allow wifi calling?
Or maybe someone else that uses the same provider as you can chime in here.
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Thanks for helping me on this. Wifi calling is turned on. My carrier is Verizon. Could you look on your phone and tell me what it says below wifi calling, the smaller text, under Network & Internet, internet. Mine says "Call over mobile network" when wifi calling is enabled and "Off" when it's disabled. The call over mobile network seems to imply to be that wifi calling isn't active.
jd1639 said:
Thanks for helping me on this. Wifi calling is turned on. My carrier is Verizon. Could you look on your phone and tell me what it says below wifi calling, the smaller text, under Network & Internet, internet. Mine says "Call over mobile network" when wifi calling is enabled and "Off" when it's disabled. The call over mobile network seems to imply to be that wifi calling isn't active.
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Yeah seems so. Mine says mobile data won't auto connect.
I'm unsure if it will help you however can't hurt to check or try. Under my provider (google fi) I click on the gear and my settings are mobile data, roaming, w+ connections and allow 2g are toggled off. My preferred network type is fixed on LTE and off course wi-fi calling under calling.
I checked under verizon and it should allow the wifi calling however it isn't very clear if it only allows it as a fall back option.