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Wifi oddities

Hello,
Has anyone ever experienced the inability to download pictures from SMS/MMS while connected to wifi? My buddy can send me a pic via messaging or chomp sms and once it gets to me, usually a long time later, I will get a small, empty chat balloon touch the balloon and it will give me the loading circle for a few minutes and it will eventually stop without dl'ing anything. If I turn off wifi then it will dl within seconds. This is the same on both my phone and my buddy's(captivate) the only difference is I run the Firefly 2.0.5 and he is running stock eclair.
Is this just something that we have to deal with or is there a fix for this?
I did a samsung live chat and the agent said it was the way samsung makes their phones and restrict it to only allow SMS/MMS DL from the carrier signal.
Thanks for any and all help.

mms are done over 3g, are you able to browse the internet on 3g? are your APN settings correct?

I get mms when on wifi too. I was home two days back when I got like 4 sms. And at home I'm always on wifi.
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Never had a problem

MMS are only done over your carrier network. To prove this send your self an mms and as it is sending and receiving what your task bar and you will see that your data network connects to download it.

since the phone has to drop the wifi signal and connect to the carrier data signal to send or receive MMS (it might not show in the icon though), yours might be lagging somewhat in doing that...
so when the buddy is on wifi his one does it quicker yes?

Trusselo said:
mms are done over 3g, are you able to browse the internet on 3g? are your APN settings correct?
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Yes can browse the internet while on 3G and WIFI.
I do not know if my APN settings are wrong or right.

ap1618 said:
since the phone has to drop the wifi signal and connect to the carrier data signal to send or receive MMS (it might not show in the icon though), yours might be lagging somewhat in doing that...
so when the buddy is on wifi his one does it quicker yes?
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No, in reference to the way the devices act both do the same thing. Do not allow you to DL MMS while the WIFI is turned on. neither seems faster or slower it just will not complete the task on wifi.
Thanks to all for the replies

zelendel said:
MMS are only done over your carrier network. To prove this send your self an mms and as it is sending and receiving what your task bar and you will see that your data network connects to download it.
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I checked it 2 days back. Even when on wifi, it turns on EDGE/3G, downloads MMS and disconnects it.

diablo009 said:
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I checked it 2 days back. Even when on wifi, it turns on EDGE/3G, downloads MMS and disconnects it.
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So is there a setting that I need to look for that allows for the edge/3g to turn on/off for mms?

Anyone?
Would love to figure this out as it is quite annoying.

Having trouble with MMS. (Picture messages and group messages)

I have had my phone since the release date for Verizon. The only problem I have with it is I do not receive my MMS messages at all. I leave my data off whenever I have access to wifi. My old Droid Razr would send me a message saying I had a message from someone and needed to download it. But on my Moto X I do not recieve any messages and then when I turn on my data, I will randomly get 4-5 messages from the group/picture message.
Are there any settings I can change to fix this?

scottpark09 said:
I have had my phone since the release date for Verizon. The only problem I have with it is I do not receive my MMS messages at all. I leave my data off whenever I have access to wifi. My old Droid Razr would send me a message saying I had a message from someone and needed to download it. But on my Moto X I do not recieve any messages and then when I turn on my data, I will randomly get 4-5 messages from the group/picture message.
Are there any settings I can change to fix this?
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Why are you turning off your data? My phone goes well over 24 hours with every single thing enabled and heavy use. There's no reason to turn it off.

I have the same issue too with my Moto X. I leave my data off because I have not an unlimited data plan. I am from At&t.
If someone can help, it would be great.
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Why are you turning off your data? My phone goes well over 24 hours with every single thing enabled and heavy use. There's no reason to turn it off.
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I agree that the battery life is great. But does it use extra battery to leave data on while on WiFi?
I read somewhere that to fix you need to send yourself an email with a picture attached on gmail. However I am still unable to send while on WiFi.

This is a CDMA limitation and I am unaware of a workaround. If you turn off your data, you will not receive MMS messages.
Try leaving on your data, or switching to a GSM carrier.

mikeosu said:
I agree that the battery life is great. But does it use extra battery to leave data on while on WiFi?
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Nope. The data portion actually gets turned off in software if you're on WiFi until there is something (MMS) that needs it. You will save nothing, and waste time turning mobile data off every time you get on WiFi.

icase81 said:
Nope. The data portion actually gets turned off in software if you're on WiFi until there is something (MMS) that needs it. You will save nothing, and waste time turning mobile data off every time you get on WiFi.
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THIS. You need to leave data on if you want to receive MMS. The system handles data very well and will only turn it on when needed while on wifi

icase81 said:
Nope. The data portion actually gets turned off in software if you're on WiFi until there is something (MMS) that needs it. You will save nothing, and waste time turning mobile data off every time you get on WiFi.
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Good to know! But I need mobile data turned on to send an MMS when connected to WiFi? Does this mean it still uses my mobile data?

MMS doesn't count against your data. It goes over your data connection but is not counted towards your limit.
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icase81 said:
MMS doesn't count against your data. It goes over your data connection but is not counted towards your limit.
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Even picture messaging?

mikeosu said:
Even picture messaging?
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Correct. MMS = picture messaging. That's how feature phones with no data plan can still use MMS.
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I noticed a similar issue recently when I turned wifi and mobile data off.
I was troubleshooting a problem where Google Messaging had a running service "Messaging Transaction Service" that was holding a wakelock for hours causing increased idle battery drain. Using WLD I saw the wakelock was related to MMS, so I turned on my mobile data. This didn't immediately help, so I forced close the Messaging service, and I then immediately received the MMS. Up until that point, I had no notification that a MMS was pending.

9kracing said:
This is a CDMA limitation and I am unaware of a workaround. If you turn off your data, you will not receive MMS messages.
Try leaving on your data, or switching to a GSM carrier.
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Just to correct you. this is not a CDMA limitation. This is how all iOS and android smartphones work by design. MMS messages are sent through data, they do not use up your data allotment for the month.
Only time MMS would work with data off is if you have a wifi calling app such as the one some tmobile phones have. It does not exist for the moto x.

[Q] VZW 4.4.2 + Wifi + MMS won't sent

Anyone else having issues similar to this? While connected to wifi my messages just time out / retry. if while it's retrying I disconnect from wifi, the message goes right away.
Moto X DE Rooted on 4.4.2 as of Tuesday evening.

Any chance you have ad block plus installed?

Steve-x said:
Any chance you have ad block plus installed?
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I have AdAway installed.

You do need an active data connection to send MMS (they don't send over WiFi). So it depends on what else you have going on -- i.e. if you have a Tasker profile to turns data off while connected to WiFi or something like that

piccit said:
You do need an active data connection to send MMS (they don't send over WiFi). So it depends on what else you have going on -- i.e. if you have a Tasker profile to turns data off while connected to WiFi or something like that
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The last two times I've had issues with it sitting, as soon as I dropped wifi it sent. I do have/use tasker, but am on vzw unlimited data so I don't ever turn it off even when connected to wifi. Thanks for the suggestion.
I don't remember this issue pre-4.4.2 but I don't send a *lot* of mms's so I wouldn't argue its starting point as being 4.4.2 for sure.

[Q] Can someone explain how wireless texting works?

To my understanding, T-Mobile phones can utilize wireless texting along with the wireless calling. How does this work, and can MMS be sent over wi-fi in addition to regular SMS?
Right now, I have wireless calling disabled on my T-mobile GS6. Does this disable the ability for wireless texting as well?
Just curious to how this all works. Thanks!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Multimedia_Subsystem
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"Generic Bootstrapping Architecture" on @wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_Bootstrapping_Architecture?wprov=sfia1

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Multimedia_Subsystem
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"Generic Bootstrapping Architecture" on @wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_Bootstrapping_Architecture?wprov=sfia1
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All this mumbo-jumbo doesn't answer the question. :banghead:
Pp.

i have wifi calling turned off, and I send and recieve text messages, including mms all the time through wifi without issue, so the answer is YES

zackmack7 said:
To my understanding, T-Mobile phones can utilize wireless texting along with the wireless calling. How does this work, and can MMS be sent over wi-fi in addition to regular SMS?
Right now, I have wireless calling disabled on my T-mobile GS6. Does this disable the ability for wireless texting as well?
Just curious to how this all works. Thanks!
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'WiFi calling' is used when you, for example, have no service in a your house. You would turn 'WiFi calling' on and it would use your home internet that you're connected to as your signal source. All your calls, texts, and data (of course) will go through your home internet instead of the tmobile cell tower. It turns zero or bad service into perfect service. Now it also depends on your home internet quality. If you have no T-Mobile service in your house AND a crappy home internet connection... then you may be screwed lol
You don't NEED WiFi calling on to send and receive calls or texts. Just turn it on when it's needed.

wase4711 said:
i have wifi calling turned off, and I send and recieve text messages, including mms all the time through wifi without issue, so the answer is YES
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How can you tell that the messages are being sent via Wifi and not mobile data?

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How can you tell that the messages are being sent via Wifi and not mobile data?
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If you have wifi on you will not have any type of wireless data other than what normal voice gives you. I would assume in a instance that wifi is on and wifi calling is off it would send all sms texts via voice and mms as wifI. Just tried to send a mms with mobile data off but connected to wifi with wifi calling off and it said will send mms after it connects to mobile data. So there is your answer! Guess we still get mobile data when connected to wifi.

v2.2v said:
'WiFi calling' is used when you, for example, have no service in a your house. You would turn 'WiFi calling' on and it would use your home internet that you're connected to as your signal source. All your calls, texts, and data (of course) will go through your home internet instead of the tmobile cell tower. It turns zero or bad service into perfect service. Now it also depends on your home internet quality. If you have no T-Mobile service in your house AND a crappy home internet connection... then you may be screwed lol
You don't NEED WiFi calling on to send and receive calls or texts. Just turn it on when it's needed.
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Right but I'm assuming that if Wifi-calling is off, even if Wifi is on, SMS and MMS will still be sent through normal means/mobile data instead of via Wifi. Is that correct?

ThePagel said:
If you have wifi on you will not have any type of wireless data other than what normal voice gives you. I would assume in a instance that wifi is on and wifi calling is off it would send all sms texts via voice and mms as wifI. Just tried to send a mms with mobile data off but connected to wifi with wifi calling off and it said will send mms after it connects to mobile data. So there is your answer! Guess we still get mobile data when connected to wifi.
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Perfect! Thanks

zackmack7 said:
Right but I'm assuming that if Wifi-calling is off, even if Wifi is on, SMS and MMS will still be sent through normal means/mobile data instead of via Wifi. Is that correct?
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'WiFi calling' and WiFi are independent of each other. You can have WiFi on and still have 'WiFi calling' off. lf your 'wifi calling' is off...all calls, SMS, and MMS will be transmitted via cell network. If 'WiFi calling' is on... then all calls, SMS, and MMS will be transmitted via WiFi.
Also remember there are three different options when using 'WiFi calling'...if I'm ever in a situation where 'WiFi calling' is NEEDED, I would definitely say use the third (the one I have chosen) option in attached picture.

wase4711 said:
i have wifi calling turned off, and I send and recieve text messages, including mms all the time through wifi without issue, so the answer is YES
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You can not send MMS through WiFi unless 'WiFi calling' is on. If your 'WiFi calling' is off, then all your calls, SMS, MMS go through cell network

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You can not send MMS through WiFi unless 'WiFi calling' is on. If your 'WiFi calling' is off, then all your calls, SMS, MMS go through cell network
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I think it is important to note that it requires mobile data. You can send a sms via voice but mms must be sent with 2g/3g/LTE Or wifi calling.

ThePagel said:
I think it is important to note that it requires mobile data. You can send a sms via voice but mms must be sent with 2g/3g/LTE Or wifi calling.
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Correct. See this is what I like to see within a forum! lol Find an issue, troubleshoot issue, solve issue. BOOM

Mobile Data connectivity Issues & Spen Button loose?

I know people have had Wi-Fi connectivity issues...but has anybody else had Mobile Data connectivity issues? It's a new phone and a new sim card but I'm still having issues? I had to reset my device in order for me to browse the internet or for me to send texts...TWICE within an hour. Any suggestions for this?
Also, is anybody's SPen button loose? I don't know how secure it's suppose to be, but if I run my finger back and forth as if I'm rubbing it, the button rocks back and forth as if it's loose. Not sure if it's supposed to be as secure as the home button on the phone or what

Leelouster said:
I know people have had Wi-Fi connectivity issues...but has anybody else had Mobile Data connectivity issues? It's a new phone and a new sim card but I'm still having issues? I had to reset my device in order for me to browse the internet or for me to send texts...TWICE within an hour. Any suggestions for this?
Also, is anybody's SPen button loose? I don't know how secure it's suppose to be, but if I run my finger back and forth as if I'm rubbing it, the button rocks back and forth as if it's loose. Not sure if it's supposed to be as secure as the home button on the phone or what
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Wi-Fi and Network issues are being experienced by just about everyone. Because it's so widespread, this leads me to believe it is a software issue and we just need new radios.
Your SPen is like mine. Fairly certain it was made this way and is not supposed to be like the Home button.
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hum funny i havent had any wifi or 4g problems. I remember they said the s7 edge had wifi problems where it would randomly disconnect and not reconnect.
Which i didnt have that problem on the s7 edge either. (got the phone 2weeks after launch).
But with the note 7 no problems here. And my spend is pretty stiff no loose feeling on the button, feels almost like the home button

I've had really bad issues too. Like having to restart my phone to get data to work. receiving text messages late. Phone calls going straight to voicemail.

mysterysauce said:
I've had really bad issues too. Like having to restart my phone to get data to work. receiving text messages late. Phone calls going straight to voicemail.
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Same here. I simply notice that after an hour I dont seem to receive any kind of notification, suspicious. So I check my phone and keep getting pop up of "no connectivity please check your network". Both Data and Wifi will not connect. Even toggling airplane mode won't establish a connection. Only option is to reboot. This has been happening to me at least twice a day.

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I've had really bad issues too. Like having to restart my phone to get data to work. receiving text messages late. Phone calls going straight to voicemail.
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I have been having those problems too except it's with my data and regular service. If my phone loses service somewhere the only way to get it back is to restart the phone it's ridiculous and the signal is way worse then my wife's S7 Edge
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id say report it to samsung via online chat and they will make a case about it and hopefully they will make a patch.
but as said i dont get that problem. Background data and everything works. my package tracking, ebay, facebook and all that work. No miss called or messages.

Definitely have an issue when I roam on AT&T then come back to a T-Mobile area. Have to put it on airplane mode and then back for it to acquire the network again.

I haven't had any WiFi issues, but I rarely use WiFi. I have noticed that my Note 7 like to switch to AT&T Edge (which is basically unusable for data), even when there is T Mobile LTE available. I constantly have to manually search for a select T Mobile for it to switch back. I don't want to disable roaming, because it's necessary where I live, but I can't seem to keep the phone from switching over to AT&T or get it to switch back to T Mobile when service is available. I just switched from a Nexus 6P which very rarely had this problem in the same area.

I too have experience Data loss where I have to toggle airplane mode or reboot. But this only happens at my residence which has a poor to fair T-Mobile signal.

bamfsig45 said:
I too have experience Data loss where I have to toggle airplane mode or reboot. But this only happens at my residence which has a poor to fair T-Mobile signal.
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Same here, only once, but I noticed the one time it happened I had been using Bluetooth, more specifically Samsung Gear connected to my Gear S.
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I had disconnected my watch and mobile data just.. quit
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This is exactly what I've been experiencing
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Well this is my first cycle but no issues yet. Spen button does the same thing. I think thats normal.
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I had no issues, maybe don't use phone often enough to notice, but I have been in and out of network and it works fine without any reset. but here is the funny part: when i went to activate my N7 (from home computer), I had to call rep, of course from my old phone. So while he is trying to switch me, he sms me some code to input (still on old phone), didn't get it, sends again, nothing still, then my old phone connection goes dead. So i grab my new phone, sure enough, I'm switched, new phone now works. That was around 9pm. 3AM my phone beeps, I got 2 SMS messages with codes from 6 hrs ago. Since they were originally send to my old phone, which worked fine like forever, I would speculate the issue was on TMO side, not my phone. So I wonder if some of the issues some of you experienced are coming from T-mo? I don't know, like somebody forgot to program new phone into system and things hang up,

I switched the mobile network selection to manual instead of automatic and turned off data roaming and haven't had this problem since.

I have had no issues like this? Why are some many users having issues with this phone. The Note 7 is built pretty dam well. All my friends i know have this phone and no issues with them as well. Before jumping the gun on issues please do research.

Heinous said:
I switched the mobile network selection to manual instead of automatic and turned off data roaming and haven't had this problem since.
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I'll try this and keep an eye out. Next step for troubleshooting will be to get the SIM activated that came with the N7 instead of using the one from the S7. I've read that using a SIM from a previous phone has information stored on it and could be the cause for some problems. That just doesn't make much sense to me since they both have the exact same T-Mobile bands but I guess you never know. Thanks for the tip!

I have noticed on my N7 if I lose service (building elevator, etc) and then come out into open air, one out of 5 times it never reconnects. I try to cycle through Airplane Mode and out, but that does nothing. The only way to get data back is by restarting the phone. Super annoying, especially when I have a password on the phone and a sim lock so by the time phone is back up and running to use, it takes some time. Very frustrated with this!

bamfsig45 said:
I too have experience Data loss where I have to toggle airplane mode or reboot. But this only happens at my residence which has a poor to fair T-Mobile signal.
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I just experienced this. Ironically I had full LTE Data bars but 0 connectivity running T-Mobile stock Firmware and NOT rooted.

At least 3 times in the morning my data has been off, showing full bars but no LTE, a reboot was the only thing that got it up and running again.
As for the S-pen I'd say it's semi loose when fondled..